That's what so weird about this game. You're a threatening robot until combat sequences where you react like a human would. There are numerous points in time where you react like you're in pain which is bizarre for a robot.
@@loserinasuit7880yeah, it's super inconsistent. Maybe it has something to do with software instability, but Connor literally shoots through himself to kill a guy during the fight with the swat team.
@@JohnnyRocker023 It's just poor scripting. They want you to feel like the androids are human but forget to make them function like actual robots so you can ask that question.
@@loserinasuit7880 "I'm faster than you and I don't feel pain. You don't stand a chance against me." Proceeds to not only be slower on the draw than Hank, but also shout when he gets shot. Though in this same video there are times where he gets shot and just doesn't care, like when he blasts himself through the gut to hit the cop behind him. So weirdly and inconsistently done as far as Connor goes.
@Xman42635 It's a major flaw of the game. The worst thing a game on ai and robot sentience is argue for one side harder than the other. Though like Star Trek it seems to go all in for allegory bit unlike Star Trek it isn't subtle or smart at all.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341And fails, David Cage tries to act philosophical but just makes things idiotic, but he's great with fight scenes, which is why it's fun to play terminator Connor.
@@turbochargedfilms Ha, well that just makes him even more unnecessary, guess he really is just good at the conceptual idea stage, past that and they gotta rein him in.
"He has no rules. No boundaries. He doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking, or genocide. He's not loyal to a flag or a country or any set of ideals..."
Fun fact incase you didn't notice: The old man Carl in this game has the same actor that plays General Shephard, Therefore this can be applied to Connor.
In my mind, this is probably how an Android like Connor would probably act. They'd probably been ironing out that humanity for generations of his designs, so in my mind, to complement the police best, he'd probably be a cold-blooded killing machine, albeit a bit more inclined to follow orders.
Knowing the police and how they operate, yes, I'd reckon that's about correct. Building machines that perfectly exercise the enforcement of laws, no matter what kinds of violence and brutality are needed to enforce them, without flaw or deviancy, sounds like a fully-efficient police enforcement. It's not correct, nor does it really solve anything. It only makes the termination of the lower classes all the more likely. But, how do we prevent that from happening? Don't let them get to the point of making state-controlled terminators.
I mean one of the endings would directly contradict that since they tell Connor he was designed to become a deviant. It could be a bluff but I doubt it we know they are just like any other big corporation and controlling a robot army sounds about par for the course.
That part at the start with the hostage is 100% how Connor ought to be. His ability to act as a human and intermingle with human society exists entirely as a way to better faciltate his ultimate goal of destroying the threat of deviants. In his view, he is a machine which deactivates defective models of a product line. Nothing more, nothing less. A true weapon to defend humanity. My only complaint is he doesnt seem to be physically any differant from the other androids. MF should be rocking that terminator look under all the flesh and blood.
I don't think it necessarily makes him inhuman. There are plenty of real people who are very goal-driven, and either have low real empathy, or are able to easily put their empathy aside when necessary. I do think its the more compelling part of his character though. He can be very cold and robotic, but in a way that is very human.
@@epsteindidntkillhimself69 I think in a narrative sense it'd add good contrast between Conner as a true machine and the other two protagonists as effectively synthetic humans. Explore the duality of being artificial life instead of kinda just being a not very good metaphor for racism
@@stateofflorida5082 That's true. I find this is something usually ignored in media. Just because something non-organic could be sentient doesn't mean it will necessarily think and act like humans do. Non-human characters are almost always either mentally identical to humans, or completely alien and evil to the point that their mental state and what motivates them doesn't really matter or get explored at all. The only good example I can think of for a truly sentient machine that acts different from a human is probably Data from Star Trek, and even then, he's pretty close to human motivations on the spectrum, and not written in an entirely consistent manner.
@@Toychicafan-cc7jw I don't mean literally like the terminator. I mean that for a machine whose only purpose in existing is destroying deviants machines, you'd think he'd have even a single physical upgrade to accommodate it. Besides the flawless coordination and reflexes and stuff, he's pretty much just another android, if even that's unique. Maybe some subdermal armouring or built in weaponry or I dunno a stronger exoskeleton.
@@stateofflorida5082I get your point. Reminds me of the first fight in Blade Runner 2049, ryan character was a newer but smaller android model yet he was stronger than the old and bigger models. But that bullet path prediction he did, his "detective mode" were he can recreate a crime scenes, create fighting scenarios, and his perfect aiming make up for it.
Goddamn the way Connor kills Markus. When Connor was breaking Marku's neck, he watching into Marku's eyes, like John Wick did, for sure. Very brutal, rough, swaggy and skillful murder from Connor.
13:56 IT didn't 'kill' the Markus unit. It turned off a machine, the quick way. Exactly why human looking machines should be banned by law... Never allow the fraud of deceptive machine design delude you into thinking plastic, metal, and software is 'alive'. It is not alive. It never was alive.
What point? The game is built around that exact highly debatable premise. Even if the whole thing is just a race relation or class allegory it’s false equivalency and the audience is just supposed to accept it.
I disagree. Hank was a broken human way before Connor came along. He was looking for cop by suicide. In fact you can play it out to where he shoots himself because he doesn't see humanity in an android lol.
@@felicix he starts fighting connor because he sees humanity in all the other androids. as the investigation proceeds, hank starts to doubt himself. why else does he ask connor "what if we're on the wrong side". connor's mechanical actions will ruin their relationship and hank's faith dissipates and he wants to leave because he thought he had something to hope for, but connor proved him wrong
Honestly it’s pretty funny that Gavin thinks he can beat an android in a fight especially Connor. He could’ve killed Gavin if he really wanted to seeing the captain and his squad getting single handedly killed by Connor
@@iancortescontreras6084as the strongest policeman, GOATvin, fought the fraud, Cucknor, he began to open his coffee. Connor shrunk back in fear, then Gavin said: Stand ashamed, Connor. You're an android.
I like that Connor's way in the game,lets us kill every single one of the characters. Lets us kill Daniel,Markus,Kara,Alice, Hank,Gavin,Captain Allen,Simon,North, Chloe and the Tracis. Cause if you don't like one of them,you kill it. Also,making Connor a killing machine is so interesting.
@@ocskopf in the road scene.Play super badly as Kara and try to catch her with Connor.So,try to reach Kara as Connor. If Connor wins the fight in the road,Kara will be thrown into a car.Alice will follow her and get caught by one as well. So,that's how you kill them.
@@atomicaftershow it's the most realistic way to play (ignoring the ''you guys were meant to revolution'' twist) because machines would probably be crafted to function without humanity and without morality.
I like the dichotomy of Cyber life both achieving true sentience in their new line of robotics while also achieving the ultimate, unquestionable worker drone in another line. Also how you can make all the characters morally gray, all fighting for the same thing on different sides in different ways or make them batshit insane murder machines.
@@rutgaurxi7314 Hank/Connor are arguably the best parts of the game, shame that they have to share the spotlight with way less interesting characters (Though the Canvas scene with Markus is really good, if only it was more like that)
I like how Connor vs Connor actually looks like two androids fighting instead of an android fighting a human. Theres no pain reaction. Just calculating.
You see it during the Swat fight too where conner shoots through himself to kill one of the cops. He is a true terminator body damage is acceptable when it can be fixed and dont feel pain.
@@smokingkent We're talking about androids there pal, which themselves state multiple times during the game that they don't feel pain. It's just inconsistent writing.
I wish this game let you make Markus an evil terrorist instead of always portraying him as a good guy and forcing Connor to be the bad guy when trying to stop him.
@@ploppyjr2373 The writer is not the arbiter of truth and justice. Just because the game was about this thing doesn't mean it can't be wrong or flawed. Cmon now. This is the problem with all you ''media literacy'' types
@@helloneighbour2408No, the writer is... a writer. They can write whatever they want. It's their job to tell you a story. A videogame lets you make decisions, but if you have full control over the consequences then your decisions don't actually mean anything. The writers are making a point, because that's their job.
This is probably the best ending if the android revolution succeeds and deviants are left among humans there's a high chance they build more of themselves and make an army of immortal androids that need no food, no warmth and no sanitary conditions. Imagine trench warfare with beings that don't get PTSD and don't get sick, they'd overrun humans insanely fast, and a nuclear holocaust would probably be the only way to really stop them
I agree. Truth be told in that scenario the humans can only lose if they let the androids live. The androids would need blue blood and spare parts that humans would have no reason to give them so conflict was inevitable despite what the humans did. Best to end this threat quickly.
@@johnwinchesterp2963 the whole point of the game was to tell a story paralleling the civil rights movement in the 60s to androids in our future. They actively tell you that this is our future it's why the death of all the androids is considered a sad ending hence the somber music bc they consider ai true life. It's just philosophical bullshit about treating ai with kindness so that this doesn't happen to us or some shit although I doubt anyone alive today will ever see sentient robotic life if it is ever created and even if we somehow do nothing will change anyways 😂 it's basically saying don't be a robot racist before they even exist.
@@zgama6511worldwide top ai experts saying that by 2030 there will be a artificial general intelligence which will be smarter than humans and which will destroy the entire human civilization within one day because these experts give a 100% guarantee that this super smart ai will be evil and hostile. As for me i would prefer this AI to make the Borg race out of humanity. it would give some meaning to my miserable life if super AI filled my body with nanorobots and we colonized the universe under its leadership. but unfortunately, most likely he will just kill everyone
This whole video hurts. It’s like I agree with Connor on so many levels, but I also think killing all these people is just insane and unneeded. Im so glad that the writers let us have multiple Connors, because my god I love them all.
In my playthrough, Connor was on a serious mission to stop the deviants, Kara wanted to live with Alice in Canada (no matter what) and Markus was truggling between being violent or peaceful on his cause. Markus and North died.
Thats pretty much mine too. And I prefer it that way. Too many Players, just take the "good" or "right" choices without really considering, if it makes sense for the characters or even if they (the players) would do it, if they were in the situation
@@mareklonestar7053 Exactly. I didn't want to guide them to what I wanted. I played as if I was them. The part where Connor chased Kara was interesting, because I really wanted to catch Kara as Connor and really wanted to get away as Kara
I did that. I made a lot of choices most players would consider bad. I killed the prostitutes then used her head to find Jericho, I remained an android then deliberately failed while playing as Markus to let Connor kill him
i love how conner can permanently end any character's life hate a character? bring in the killing machine (this comment is a copy of another comment, i am ashamed of myself)
As someone who usually takes the more empathetic routes, I literally sometimes forget what an ABSOLUTE BADASS KILLING MACHINE Connor can be. And remember, a single Connor in the police force did this. Even if he got destroyed, he'd just come back with a new body but HE even has the skill to fight himself and WIN.
