"Deus Ex" Endings (All 3) 

I don't think anyone takes him seriously either, and no one wants to work for him. He's like an illuminati conspirator parody; no one takes him seriously when he tries to manipulate someone, and when he yells at someone they either brush it off or it makes the person he's yelling at angrier. The only people that directly work with him willingly are Walton Simons or, formerly, Morgan Everett, and who knows what they really think.

I still think they cut a ending where you could side with him

I feel like that wouldn't even have been that much different from the other endings. Especially the Helios one, but perhaps he'd merge with both the AI and JC

Sign him up for the knicks!

Personally I like the ending where everything collapsed.

Basketball? Seems like a footprint of warren spector. there is a basketball in System Shock 2 too.

@TMPanos96 Nothing stays absolutely good forever

J.C Denton resigns from UNATCO and signs up for the Knicks, he becomes A superstar basketball player remembered for decades

Oh yeah yeah?

You are wrong....in Paris if you read news papers it will state that JC has destroyed Hong Kong UC one Weak ago!

@@akrammeziane9979 it all takes place at night, but not on the same night lol

@@Nathan-gs5tw Yeah its not all one night. When JC enters Versalife you can find a log in the security room stating he entered at around 10pm. The night suits it better but it is beautiful to see the daylight sky showing up in the later levels. Although Area 51 had a red sky, is that meant to be late afternoon/early morning?

Symbolises, The Dark Ages.(Tong's Ending) Which was the 'best' ending metaphysically. The whole game is a conspiracy, the cover, the intro, the endings.

Grognougnou Gaming Exactly!! I noticed it too.

Yes he sounds really natural in the 2nd ending...unlike the entire game...where he's just cold and throws around one liners ...

That's because Helios penetrated him......it tickled JC's ovaries

Sounded like classic RE2 Leon xD

@@neerajkrishnan8574 You talking to me?

It's even better in the PS2 version since they show his face but yeah, that line just hits hard.

All endings are canon! They think the ending is best interpreted as JC Denton Becomes God, Destroys worldwide communications, and rules with the elite from the shadows.

@@gamesdeen3768 I would be afraid of machines in real life so I would pick the dark age ending, but The helios ending seems to be the most sensible, because the AI makes the best decisions. All the endings seems to be "good" endings though.

@@supersage6469 AI doesn’t make the perfect choices, since it learns from us, from our past, good and bad. That’s the reason AI can be actually really racist, which is really hard to automatically moderate.

@@ringtail5021 True AI would see the destruction that racism caused and prevent it easily in the future generations.

Dark Age: Pure anarchy and economic collapse with famine, riots and no effective way of getting the vaccine out to the infected. Elites are defeated but at a terrible cost of human suffering. Helios: A technocratic dystopia, in which humanity is eternally ruled by an artificial god of our own making, one who is beyond accountability and has the ability (and motive) to track and control Every facet of people's lives. Illuminati: Business as usual, but our protagonist can co-rule from the shadows and the vaccine actually gets to the citizens, whilst still allowing them some freedom. The least worst option.

That ending makes me feel like the entire game is pointless, it ends how it started. Everett is Page, and you are WS.

I don't think it was intended to be that way. Everett didn't seem entirely self centered. He really wanted to fix the world, just in a different way.

+Egyptian Space Odin "If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself." - Bakunin

I personally think JC is crafty enough to keep Everett in check.

I felt that way too, and you're right, for the ending, the player was just a tool used to destroy the opposition so that another power crazed organization could take control and restore it's former glory. Everett was always this calm, yet cold and sly character who went so far as to have the former leader and his own mentor/colleague frozen in order to seek out all the secrets and intel before conveniently having him eliminated(he did mention he had zero intentions on reviving his body). It's most likely being a stooge, much like what happened in UNATCO, only this time; you know.

We’re 100% BLACK.

@@justderp5713 Me too

Welcome to the coalition PROD

dude, i picked the same and most importantle... we have the same name. Coinsidence? i think not!

I get the sentiment, but I feel like that’s the worst ending - the people of the world were already going through hell, and the collapse would make things 10x worse. People starving en mass because you don’t want anyone to be in power. Helios was my favourite as it allowed for restoration without anyone’s ego being attached

An AI and a (cybernetic) man fusing just isn't a recipe for anything good... Unfortunately, or fortunately, the endings are vague and open-ended so we don't see the outcome. All I know here is that, in reality, AI and technology has connections with demonic forces, and acts as a conduit to our world from theirs. @@BeepBoop896 Illuminati ending is just more people behind the curtains, in control (and the man you partner with isn't what I would call compassionate). The new dark age is an erasure of all these abominations and corruptions, which I think is always good. Will it all just come back again, in the future of this game's world? Who knows.

@@BeepBoop896 yup. It's way too idealistic and ignores 1000s of problems it would cause. Noble in theory, devastating in execution.

Definitely the best ending and the best music too.

I agree

Woah. Dude, that's deep. This game is genius. Better than some books.

M Mirlas Hence the name "Deus Ex." But it's actually Deus Ex Machina. Which actually means: God from Machines."

@@seifeldeennoureldeen3429 It is not actually Deus ex machina. Which doesn't actually meen God from Machines. It means God from the machine. Deus ex means God from. The only way to create God's state is to choose Tong's ending.

@@eniff2925 Ah yes, it was a typographical error. Thank you for that information, though!

better than "merging" with machines

+Marthike9122 I think the "Merge" is the official canon ending, because in invisible war Denton is unkillable

+Seth Carter all endings are canon in invisible war to a degree

+heretics everywhere Sean Squires yeah that did not make any sense what so ever.

Tong went too far. He should've asked JC merely to destroy Helios and Page, and cripple Everett's plans.

I would have...What?Why are you looking at me in that way? (jokes apart it would have been nice to see all opcions conidered for the endings)

Hehe, I would have liked to see it, like the Omar or Templar Ending from Invisible War, something interesting to sere.

Bob Page actually mentioned that through the infolink. Europe if I remember corectly.

XantoS441 Yeah, it shows that they had the ideas in place, they just ran out of time.

Tomaz600x I wanted to team up with Walton Simmons. He's the only one who gets what it's like to be an unstoppable cyborg killing machine. I thought the same thing when playing HR, about Namir. Maybe men like us CAN get back the things we love? :_( For MD I hope that substantial choices happen earlier in the game. Atleast you can leave bosses alive this time so that should bring back the forked paths of the original Deus Ex. But the endings need to be more varied.

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This brotha said game of the decade, then the comment is 13 years old.

@@markmclean8858 To be fair, I never said *which* decade Also lmao I was real pretentious thirteen years ago. Deus Ex is still great though!

honestly, best game of all time

+fragsman Easily one of the best games of all time!

Let me guess that .5 u took away was that damn Boat mission wasnt it lol

Yeah I hated that boat mission

Played this many times from when it Came out to recently, It is one of my favorite games, it needs to be re remastered.

The new Deus Ex games are prequels. Maybe we get to point where JCDenton story starts.

Moorpheus19 yea it was clearly the worse choice, all it would do is stall until it happened again

@118306497275717932755 Want to know the funniest part? In invisible war, tong admits he was wrong to suggest having a new dark age. rekt

Tong says a lot of things - I wonder if anything he says can be trusted...

The only reason that Helios came into existence is because the aliens crashed into Earth, so destroying Area 51 means that humans will never be able to build AIs like Helios again.

Tong seems like some kind of well-intentioned crackpot IMO. The only thing positive I have to say about him is that at least he was enough of an absolute madman to actually go through with it.

That's only if you really believe that you "merge" with the AI instead of being assimilated. Also, I wouldn't even trust what Paul says, not with the power that Helios has. I mean, it could easily be a fabricated dialogue at that point.

tldr: tong resets only the world, not it's technology and people, and everett is literally the illuminati so y'know - everett bad could be, but thats the only logical option - Tong suggests resetting the world - but, not the human mindstet. By that i mean that this entire situation, starting from the gray death and ending on Page merging will repeat, and every time the humans will have to pull the plug. 2052 years of "freedom", ruled by kings in a post apocalyptic landscape, and then what? We pull the plug again? And what if somebody does something worse in the meantime? The technology is advanced enough to copy and paste humans, to have literal plasma fields and to uplink anybody to anything and anyone anywhere. The technology, in some way or another is still there. So in other words, the entirety of Deus Ex will repeat. Hundredts of times. Just in different contexts. and to be honest Everett is, y'know. THE FUCKING ILLUMINATI. It didn't work once, why should it work again, under the same exact leadership, the exact same people.

@Sputnik The thing with hitler is that he did just that for the germans, not for everyone else on the other hand.

I know this is an old comment but there is a theory that the transmission from Paul is actually Helios creating a fake hologram and dialogue to convince JC to “merge” and do whatever it wants to the world.

lifting restrictions on a city is not managing it. When JC merges with ai his face darkens as if the dark forces has taken control of it and now he wants to control the world wants all the power and the lift everyone from "darkness". lol If you really believe this is the good ending you are very far. it sounds like a powerhungry maniac with the thirst of controlling every single human being. And these ai had very evil intentions so I don't like the idea

I reached a similar conclusion (if you're even still checking RU-vid comments 8 years later lol), where I differed was that both the illuminati choice and the tong choice both set things back so they can happen all over again. Both would just allow history to repeat itself as it's already done many times. The only 'new' solution that would break the cycle is the Helios ending.

Agreed tbh

definitely the most curious one but not one I think would ever be good (in reality, IDK about the in-game world and the developers interpretation of advanced AI)

I second this. To me, the Helios ending is the best, most (r)evolutionary one. In Invisible War, it becomes clearer.

Anderson Girotto Agree!

What a shame - JC Denton can also be a bad guy and kill everyone xD It depends on you. Deus Ex Machina.

JMSLionheart

+gbx Tong's ending has some logic to it, by sending things back to the stone age, leadership and civilisation is on a level that is comprehensible to it's citizens, people know who exactly is to be held accountable, in todays government all you ever hear of is scapegoats or people that had nothing to do with what happened getting blamed and punished for it. Tong's ending ensures little to no corruption because a smaller society values it's people and holds its leaders fiercely accountable.

I personally got with ending 3 as I believe in utopia and living as one with the nature (its the natural thing to do). All our advances in the technology came from our laziness and will bring our doom

@@iliag1 that utopia is just the early stages that led to our current situation, utopias like these can't exist for long because evil organizes, that's why Anarchy is such a stupid ideology.

I believe 2ending is the best ,i only trust myself in saving the world .The first and third would only creat new problems which could be worse than the rest .It seems like 2nd is the only true and good ending out of all these.

Helios Ending(Very Evil) & Illuminati Ending (Evil). Tracer Tong's Ending is (Neutral). The whole game is a conspiracy even the cover and intro. Which is a reference to St Augustine and Not Thomas Aquinas.

Anjith H The Helios ending is canon.

agreed

Perhaps these qualities are an inseparable part of human nature.

Haha, I loved all of the overly deep conversations JC had with strangers. Randomly deep but still written well.

Based

+Mat T and also this is the alternative ending

+Mat T to become the worst of the worst - an all-powerful dictator, jut like Page wanted (?)

Ya, but Helios has good intentions though. So why is merging with Helios so bad?

I like this ending the best as well. It's like you have these 3 choices: going back in time, stay stuck in time, or make the next step in evolution.

You're being used in the ending where you comply with the Illuminati, in the Tracer ending, you basically just handle the reigns over to the people, and let them handle shit how they want. In the Helios ending, it's really the end goal of globalism, and I can't stand behind that.

Damn my blind run was well into 60 hrs+...I liked looking around lol. (by blind run you mean not looking at guides on the internet right?)

@@RatusMax How? How do y'all spend 60+ hours in a single playthrough? I've tried exploring every cranny, reading everything I could get my hands on and even kept the game on idle sometimes. I still haven't surpassed 30 hours.

@@LordTrashcanRulez I didn't kill except for saving paul denton out that hotel.

THIS

Xaxaxaxaxaxaxaaxxaaxxaxaaxxaaxxaxa fucking GOLD, just finished game for the 1. Time

So True.

1776 will commence again

Yeah for real, it seemed like the best option.

Deus Ex: Invisible War predicted endings of ME3:Extended Cut before there was ME3:Extended Cut. Templar ending: Destroy Illuminati ending: Control JC Denton ending: Synthesis Omar ending: Refuse.

I agree.

You can still do it, dont come near a computer or a smartphone and you will have Tong ending for real.

I could actually manage only if other people could stop it as well, but since everyone is online nobody is doing anything in real life. Like think about as a kid during the 90s it was normal to go to somebody's doorstep and ring the bell and pay a visit just for fun. Nowadays people might think you're nuts, for not calling them, or contacting them trough facebook or so...

TheGroveling Well take the iniciative, start it and maybe people get inspired.

I didn't understand why people who live in the new dark age couldn't read up on a flippin' book. The shutdown of centralized communications doesn't mean there aren't backups of knowledge on people's computers (Batteries and generators anyone?) and god forbid we have to use the dewey decimal system. It's a really tough call to make still though and doesn't shake up the playing field as much as one might like. The rich and powerful will just smell a vaccum - of power - and seek to capitalize upon it, as the sequel pointed out. The major victory earned here is the restoration of privacy to the individual, but it's bittersweet in that it transfers power from government to the coporation - NOT the individual. A consequence I didn't realize when I chose the Tracer Tong ending. Freedom (privacy) is never free, but without education and free exchange of ideals through global communications, one may never realize the concept of freedom in the first place. Just look at North Korea. They're doing so well without global communication, aren't they? Ah well, at least a video game taught me something for once other than how to paint the wall with brains via headshots.

Exactly, I thought about that as well. The concept of freedom was created without internet in the first place.

It's not completely left to AI. He merges with you, a human brain. And if you played the game full pacifist than this really is the good ending imo.

does that include not killing the grays they do not pass out easily if i remember

I destroyed everything and gave Human Beings another chance. May be this time they will come up with a better solution. None of those choices are ideal but I chose Area 51 destruction after thinking for a long time because I didn't want someone to secretly control everything or become a dictator myself (with a machine) :-p

And yet, the AI is the product of human labor, and required a human element in the end to complete it. So really, it is humanity saving itself, or dooming itself.

Wrong. Human beings may not be perfect but a computer program but language synthesis is hardly the answer to the world's problems.

In the HR, you do see the daylight... during one of the game's most horrifying levels, the Panchaea.

+Benjamín Larenas Veas yeah i also chose the fist ending when i first played the game,seemed a bit logical to kill as the second was making the machine the all powerful god and third was overkill,but frankly i love the third one.i mean it always gives me goosebumps even today as i watch kahlil gibran's epic quote coming at the end.nothing like a rebel,i mean saying no to bending your backs to kings and emperors and believing only in truth tahts as cool as it gets

@@avikde9631 also great music amd Tongs overly excited voice

Yeah, when I thought about it, the modern world will still go on, I mean it's not like the previous decades had such technology and it's not like they lived in villages like Tong would think. Though global interconnection I feel is something that will come again, and the re-occurrence of some global organization may come again. tl;dr Tong's exaggerating, he's just a big'ol Anprim.

I dunno, I mean taking out the internet wouldn't be nearly as bad as a solar flare taking out everything, but there's still a lot of infrastructure that depends on the Internet, and if it collapsed we could see tons of starvation and the destruction of the healthcare system.

@@chelonianegghead274 Ha ha NHS fax machines go brrrrrr

Yeah. I personally think it's the worst of the three endings, but it has the best music. XD

it there were no GEP gun it would be necessary to invent it

Thing is all of that had been rerouted through Aquinas - the infrastructure literally did not exist any longer. It would be rebuilt, but along the smaller scale Tong envisioned, smaller, more accountable, less prone to usurpation by the powers that be.

The developers originally intended to have a fourth ending, but it didn't make it due to time constraints.

Personally, in the retail version, I think it'd be out of character for JC to suddenly join the man he spent a week destroying.

well you could technically not believe your brother and stay in UNATCO, but like Jack said, they cut those parts out.

It is

I dont know man, how do you know thath things are not going to be done wrong again with tong`s ending?

German Dawidowski That is exactly why I didn't pick the Tong ending in the first game or the Darrow ending in the prequel. Why repeat the same mistakes? Shouldn't we learn from history, rather than starting over and repeating it? I thought progress was about moving forward, not jumping back to square one and then moving back to the square you were at... DEUS EX: HR SPOILERS BELOW On another note, I think they should remake the original Deus Ex and Deus Ex: IW, or make a midquel set after HR where you play as Jensen and try to stop Bob Page, maybe allowing you to stop Megan Reed from developing crap for him to enable a spin-off series set in another reality.

German Dawidowski How do you ever know if things will go right? There is no certainties in life. Starting all over makes more sense because it is known how giving power to a select few leads to inevitable suffering. In the Morgan ending, he talks about how people will forget what caused all of the trouble. In this Tong ending, you have to strive for the opposite and make sure people don't forget. That is how people like Page and Everett gain their power, by making everyone ignorant. You have to stop that.

John Galt It isn't repeating the same mistakes but restarting to ensure the same mistakes don't form again. Think of the Morgan Everett ending. The guy talks about how people will eventually forget because JC and him will ensure they hid and downplay the issue. That sort of thing is what recauses the trouble. If you let the people forget and not learn it causes the cycle to repeat. I chose to do the Tong ending knowing that wasn't enough. My JC would make sure the actions of Page and the Illumanti would never be forgetten. As well as highlighting the dangers of giving power to the few. Human society has had many situations where it was set back but came out better for it (Great Depression, World War II). Big events like these aren't easily forgotten and can lead to beneficial change. It is progress but somethings you have to go back to make bigger leaps forward (like when trying to make a super long jump for example).

LDub01031994 Let's see... roman empire collapses... looting and pillaging everywhere in the Middle Ages. Great Depression happens... World War II happens... yup, more of the same thing... Are you saying that if such a similar series of events (Like an economic collapse) were to happen today, that a third time would be the charm, that we would really move forward? Because I think not... We repeat the mistakes we make if we don't learn from them... and enabling the circumstances that lead to those mistakes forming (In other words, collapse leading to pillaging and chaos) is not learning from them... If we as a species repeat a mistake enough times, we will eventually end up far worse off than we were (Like, extinction-worse... guess what else came about from World War II, and by extension the Great Depression? Fucking nukes... something that should have never existed). We need to evolve. Technologically and naturally, with more responsibility in regards to both (Many times in fact, those two areas tend to overlap). Not just one or the other. Because then we can really move forward. Collapse is the act of moving backwards, with the end result being an ultimately worse existence, or a complete lack of existence thereof... I also love how you make a false equivalency between an athletic feat and social change... like how some compare apples to oranges, or even oranges to carrots... just because apples and oranges are both fruits, or because oranges and carrots are both orange, does not mean they are the same in essence... Back on the topic of this game's endings, I agree that I didn't like the Morgan ending either because that just emphasized on what was causing the story's problem (Irresponsibility with power and making it so that more irresponsibility is enabled through ignorance). But then regarding the Tong ending... how does Denton know that Tong himself won't betray his goals and try to take advantage of the collapse? Or vice versa? It will just create more of the same potential conflict that will become worse as time progresses, potentially leading to the same mistakes being repeated. The ending also completely ignores the root of the problem by just shutting off Helios (And by extension, the internet in Deus Ex); it's like taking a knife out of the hands of a psychopath who murders people and saying, "There, problem solved! Not like he's gonna kill anyone using his bare hands or anything," when the problem is the psychopath using the knife to kill people instead of what the knife was intended for (Chopping vegetables and carving wood, lol) In my opinion, the best ending in Deus Ex 1 is fusing with the AI, where Denton and Helios both enable knowledge to be spread, with little or no limits... this way, there is little to no ignorance. Even if someone does try to hack Denton, someone with knowledge can prevent or undo that. Like you said, don't want anyone to be ignorant right? Knowledge, and its spreading, is how you prevent ignorance. Remember how much the internet greatly changed things? Nothing like that has ever happened before in history; I consider the invention of the internet to be a polar opposite of the invention of the nuke, because of how much the internet has helped mankind.

I understand your viewpoint. But i honestly think mankind will repeat the same mistake over and over again. Only corrupt people get in powerful positions, only first generations may start honest (templars fex). There is also the fact that the sun won't last forever and that we need to get the hell out of this solar system, so we need to make huge leaps in technological advancements.

Jeron Cradle I see your point too, I guess mankind is doomed to fail :p

our star isnt even halfway depleted......we still have billions of years before it becomes a red giant and swallows the earth....or for some perspective its like 100,000,000x as long as humans have existed until the sun swallows our planet

Teagon Barry Have you heard of the habitable zone? We're at the edge of the narrow zone of that. We've got about 1 billion years.

Jeron Cradle lol dude you are missinformed, so we can agree that its widely accepted the earth has existed as a planet since colliding with the moon about 5 billion years ago, then for the first 2 billion years it was an inhabitable flaming rock when 2.5 billion years ago liquid water finally condensed from steam in the atmosphere and formed puddles on the surface where the first forms of microbial life sprung up. The point is its a widely accepted theory that we have about another 5 billion or about double the earths lifespan before solar flares start cooking the planet...so all the poor Chinese people are going to fry :( and other places that dont care about the enviorment.

naah, for one thing, there is no such thing as centralized internet, and internet's complete shutdown (even though impossible) wouldn't propel us back to middle ages, there is no all-knowing AI, and Illuminati is probably nothing like this game depicted.