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The Beretta 92F has the same problem after 2000 rounds! Slide just flys off the rail into some poor sap's face. Another reason why the developed the 92FS. ;)
I wonder how likely that was to happen also. It passed stress testing with flying colours, but that lil slide stopper looks far too flimsy for how important it is.
Also, how serious a danger would it be? How much force would the slide have flying off the gun??! Obviously proportionate to the energy of the projectile, but when that translates onto the movement of the much heavier slide, plus any friction and small parts collisions, I just wonder how dangerous it would be. Probably not lethal (?), but probably more than just a broken nose. Brow-fracture? Concussion? Skull-cracking knock-out blow? Brain damage? I wanna know!
And that's why those shitheads are going bankrupt, /again/ They made their bed, now they can lie in it. Any American gun company who thinks they can survive on nothing but government contracts deserves the rude awakening they get. The American civilian gun market is absolutely massive.
Ekim Temen It’s significantly larger than the military contracts even. American civilians own hundreds of millions of firearms, and they don’t want to sell to us? Disgusting. We were the ones to make colt popular. Now they want to fuck us.
@@theadventurest4345 Not really. He was very upset about it. The 1911 rattled when he shook it and the grease gun was nowhere near the range of Iraqi AKs. He was lucky he never came under direct fire, seeing as he was used for mine clearing and was thus ahead of the main army.
I'm an illustrator, and I'm drawing a series of pistols for a friend's husband as a Christmas gift. Right now I'm drawing a 1911A1, so this video is perfect "music" as I'm drawing. Well done, Rock Island Auction. This is an incredibly informative and articulate video, and I thank you for it.
How did the illustrations come out? Also, Rock Island Auction is the Auction House this was filmed at, Ian works with several other auction companies as well.
As I watched your video, I for the first time realize that the rear sight on my 1911 which my father who served in the Navy in WWII has an A1 rear sight. I was told many years ago that my 1911 with serial # 417305 was probably manufactured in 1918. I never got the story on how my father go this gun or that he even had a gun until after his death when I was 15 years old. I'm 60 now and this gun is my prize possession as far as guns go. My late mother made him get it out of the house when we were kids. After getting my first gun an Ithaca model 37 12 gauge pump when I was 16. My Mother told me a close family friend had it and I didn't know what it was, my imagination as a 16 year old thought Navy Revolver or some Japanese pistol. When my father best friend told me it was a Colt 1911 my jaw dropped. I asked how much will it cost to get my fathers gun back and he said I did not buy it and if your Mothers okay with it it's yours. He never expected any of my Dads sons to ask about it. Sorry for the long story the only other thing is that my older Brother was pissed that I got the gun...I let him hold it as I was stationed in Germany for 3 years in the 80s with the US Army Field Artillery. I actually had a M1911A1 as my issued firearm at Fort Stewart in the late 80s.
That was a great story! Never knew my dad had guns until after he passed. First gun I saw or touched was his Remington 500 I found in the closet. Sister says our other sister has dad's handgun. Been meaning to ask her what the hell that thing is! (Just got my first Colt .45 today. Been wanting one for 30 years.)
Ethan G;--- A. I INAGAINE; the auction house pay's him WELL!--(I SURE WOULD---SMART people want to KNOW what their bidding on & likely buying;--numbers drives up PRICES & house-cut) B. He is LIKELY wise enough to Know: you can't Own ALL the toys in the store!!!!!!!!
This is probably one of the most prevalent still in use firearms from the early 20th century. the only others i can think of being the 1919 machine gun also designed by J.M. Browning. that guy was a genius. he even invented the pistol slide. The lee enfield is up there too. The mauser action is still used in a lot of bolt guns as well.
Very technically and historically informative. And except for the 1911 and 1911A1, the closest I will ever come to any of these Colt/Brownings. It's not a big deal today for a manufacturer, SIG, Ruger, S&W to come out with a "new"1911A1, but it astounds me to think of John Browning doing it. With nothing to build off of and no pattern to follow, the ideas that he came up with were inspired genius. All that with mostly just hand tools, files, hammers, dividers and drills! Thanks John, you may be gone but you will never be forgotten. Everyone who has ever owned a gun in the last 120 years or so has held a part of your vision and genius in some form or way.
60 years ago, I was reading every firearms magazine to try and get a handle on these, along with the WHB Smith tome. This is put together really well. Thank you. Narragansett Bay
I like that you mentioned the cadaver tests by Thompson. I just finished "The Gun" and Chivers spent some time on those tests. We've come a long way in ballistic science since shooting suspended cadavers and seeing how far they swing :p
Table of Contents: Development of the Model 1911 Pistol - Forgotten Weapons 2:00 Colt Automatic Pistol (Model 1900 Sight Safety) 5:48 Model 1902 Sporting (this example converted from a 1900 Sight Safety) 8:06 Model 1902 Sporting (new production as such) 9:25 Disassembly and Functioning (covers all models from the 1900 to the 1908) 12:54 Model 1902 Military 16:01 Model 1903 Pocket Hammer (so named to distinguish it from the 1903 Pocket Hammerless) 18:25 Model 1905 20:47 Savage 1907 in .45 ACP 23:26 Model 1907 23:26 Model 1909 23:26 Model 1910 25:49 Model 1911 27:24 Model 1911A1 28:59 Model 1924 Transitional (not a formal designation)
I fell in love with the .45 back in boot camp ('80), nothing says "you're doomed" more than that sound of chambering a round. Factoid: I remember watching a "How it's Made" episode on how cordless drills were made and they specified that the grips of every cordless on the market is based on the 1911A1.
@@beaudaniel1370 Constantly moving your rear sight can't be good from accuracy and I could possibly see how the hammer might be able to wear down on it. Aside from that it's not bad and I think it's a very neat design for it's time.
What a great video on the 1911. I didn't realize that it was such a long process in the development of the 1911. I'm glad the military insisted on the grip safety. That was one of the best innovations for all guns.
James alan well the smaller Glock 30 out performed that best looking handgun in every way. When your life depends in a moment, LOOKS OF A GUN DON'T MEAN SHIT.
James alan I don't know. The US Army .44 cap and ball reminds me of a poisonous snake for some reason and looks particularly deadly. I know a .45 ACP does more damage but as my day camp riflery instructor, Leon, used to say every day: "A .22 will kill you very dead".
Fuck your glock, and its performance. Also, I live on a planet where inferior accuracy and a shitty trigger are objectively measurable instances of inferior performance. Not to mention kabooms, cracked frames, cracked slides, and the lousy grip angle. Basically the _only_ category Glocks excel in is reliability, which means they're _still_ inferior to all the other, equally-reliable polymer-framed striker-fired handguns out there. The Glock is too new to be classic, but old enough that it's just as obsolete as a 1911. The design is stuck in the 70s, because Glock has no interest in product improvement. Heck, 1911s have seen more improvement in the interval.
Ian, thanks very much for doing these. Many of us folks are historical minded, love gizmo's and have only seen stuff like this as drawings or fuzzy black and white pic's in old books. Very VERY cool !
After watching C&Rsenals videos on the early Colt revolvers, I can't help but draw a connection between the barrel locking wedge that held them together, and the slide wedge that holds these early autos together. Just funny how that element reappears at the beginning of both repeating firearm revolutions.
When I taught my son to shot handguns a few years back, he kept going back to the 1911 despite all the newer choices on the table. When I asked him which handgun he wanted for his first? Same answer. If Glock is "perfection", then the 1911 is in a class of it's own.
1911s are fun target guns. They are not that great in terms of carry guns. there are far better options these days for that. I carry a cz82 for summertime since its pretty small. and a 92fs or a five seven for my winter carry. The 1911 is an old design and should be treated as such. it was amazing back then and its still a fun gun. it isnt that great for protection. 7 rounds is very limiting. unless your in a 10 round ban state. most full sizes hold 15+. my cz is much smaller than a 1911 and holds 12 rounds of 9x18. Its also far cheaper to get that then a quality 1911
Love my 1911's , had 5 Tupperware guns, never again. Was at a range, clown beside me would not shut up about his glock. He was shooting some cheap ammo, the glock choked on 4 or 5 rounds. I picked them up, loaded them, trusty ole 1911 rocked on never noticing them, finally he got very quiet
One of my favorite pistols for its history and the first gun I ever fired. Thank you for making this video it really captures what went into the 1911 as we know it. Watching this for oh probably the third time but had to say thank you. Rock on, and keep making these vids. They bring the background and history to life!
17:17 Watch out, Ian! A sniper! I actually like a lot the design of the Pocket Hammerless, it looks very neat. It's incredible how long they went on with production without a safety, though :S The Savage looks like the illegitimate child of a TT33 and a Ruger MK II :P
Yeah. I carried a 1911A1 for about a year (1971) when as a 19 year old Lance Corporal, I was standing gate guards and roving patrols. Shot expert with it. My platoon leader taught us a grip that was very solid. You'd put your bottom two fingers right underneath the trigger guard - then - squeeze in your middle finger. Very solid grip. We fired enough rounds that I got a cut from the tang on the back of the pistol, which got infected and I still have this tiny, faint white scar today to remember my Expert Qualification by. Ha! Ha! .
Really nice to discover the long and somewhat convoluted development of the 1911. Cases of final designs made out a blank sheet are quite rare and even a genius does have to struggle with the paper pen and tests to get everything right. In a way demystifying the 1911 makes it even more interesting, it becomes what it truly is a really nice design with a really nice story. I also wish there were more long dust cover 1911 with blued finishes out there.
A 45 collectors dream....if only....! You did a good job with the back ground. I don't think anyone else has laid it out with all the different models like this. Enjoyed it!
It's all based on what you need the pistol for, for instance if you need a pistol with more stopping power, you go with the 1911, but this is at the expense of magazine capacity. On the other hand, you have the browning high power, a double stack magazine fed pistol that uses a less powerful 9mm. But don't worry, I'm also somewhat of a 1911 fanboy, I just know that there are other pistols for diffrent jobs.
Bless you ian and crew for hours and years of pure enjoyment...honestly thank you. I cant afford many guns much like ian in the beginning stage so thanx for helping me scratch the itch love you guys
This is a really well done, well detailed look at the history of this iconic firearm. I didn't even look at the length of the video, and by the time it was over I saw a half hour went by. Very entertaining, thanks for this.
I am so impressed with how much info Ian can store in his head...!Great job Ian...! ....I love to learn the history of anything that I own or owned....great video...!
I love the 1911 I think it is still the best most comfortable, hand gun with a quick and crisp trigger there is a reason many of our solders wanted to keep using the 1911, in its final stage it is the most well balanced gun I know with comfort, trigger, caliber, reliability, which increases even more by making an international ramp to prevent the rare Incurance of the slide catching the little depress. a mod done most commonly on race 1911's and is one of the most common hand guns used in race gun competition because of the easily manageable single action trigger. haters are gana have a fit with those words.
Man I love the 1911 design and all of its iterations over the years; but I still want to say that the model 1905 really looks like every gun I drew in elementary school lol
I own a dozen 1911’s from a WW2 colt to everything up to STI 2011’s, Sigs, Les Baer ect. I love this platform and I’ve owned about every popular handgun made. John Browning was 100 years ahead of his time. The modern handguns Glock ect. are junk. In my opinion the only new platform out there that holds a candle to a 1911 would be a FN 57.
The use of the hammer itself as the rear sight notch is a classic Colt design that goes back to their first major commercial production handgun, the 1851 Navy revolver, and all subsequent percussion revolvers until 1875. When the hammer is fully engaged, you will have a complete sight picture and know that you are ready to shoot.
Now, that was very interesting and informative. I appreciate this kind of approach to a topic; rich in information, to-the-point and non-exaggerating or bragging, no derogative tone - this is how information should be given. Not being a typical "gun-guy" myself, I really enjoyed every minute of this video, so thanks a lot for uploading this !
Ah my favorite pistol. It's crazy to think how long it has served the us from ww2 soldiers to some police forces who still use it today. It's truly a classic.
There’s a strange allure about first generation auto pistols that modern weapons just don’t have, mostly because they didn’t give af about cutting costs
THAT'S SO FREAKING AWESOME THAT YOU YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH SHIFT. BTW!!...A CAPS LOCK IS THE BUTTON WITH CAPS LOCK WRITTEN ON IT "AND IT'S AWESOME" I HOPE IT HELPS.........
if you could do a video about the FN1910/22 this pistol was used by both allied countries and the germans during ww2 i think it's defintly worth one of your video's
Excellent video, I was wondering how much input did Browning have at the various stages of the evolution? Was it a case of a Colt Design team working on his original design? I assume he actively worked on the concept in that he developed the tilting barrel for the 1910?
Matthew Moss Yes, he was personally involved in the development all the way to the 1910 patent that became the M1911. Incidentally, FN was considering making their own pistol based on the 1910 patent called the "Grand Browning" (a handful of prototypes had been made, some in .45 and some in a proprietary 9.65mm round), but those plans died when the Germans overran their factory.
Excellent historical evolution of the Colt Automatic Pistol. Not only informative, but enjoyable to watch. An added note. Dan Wesson, a brilliant visionary, created the 1911A2, an upgraded version of the military M1911A1. He envisioned how the 1911A1 would look after 1946 to the present day. A beautiful pistol in 45 acp with distinctive added features that any aficionado of the 1911pistol would appreciate. It can be viewed on the CZ-USA website.
You are a dire imbecile. Obviously we recognize the 1911 you fool, it was the weapons that led to its development that were technically forgotten. Moron.
Cliche Guevara Expect the normal "blah, blah, blah, muh two world wars" or "muh stoppin power" types of responses. Many preprogrammed boomer fudds in the comments.
+quarktron Probably not. Tilting barrels don't seem to affect accuracy. Striker fired guns (like modern Glocks) tilt up at a really crazy angle when fired and are still on target downrange. What really set the 1911 apart was the grip angle. The 1911 is a real natural aimer, aiming it is like pointing your finger. Combined with its excellent trigger, the 1911 deserved every bit of praise it got.
