Dialing in AutoOC & Curve Optimizer in Ryzen Master --- Part 4

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The final two variables you HAVE to dial-in to get more performance out of your Ryzen CPU. The AutoOC option allows you to increase the Boost (The big number on the side of the box) up to 200Mhz. And the Curve Optimizer allows you to set a dynamic undervolting, to lower temps, volts, and possibly increase frequency.
The next video will feature all the benchmarks and data comparing these features to show you which gives you the best overall performance and gaming performance.
Note: the advance Curve Optimizer part in the video. The concept is simple but a bit hard to explain; here are the steps.
1: Find the minimal stable value using All Core
2: Turn on Per Core and set all the values to that number
3: For Core 0 increase it by 5
4: Start Windows + CB23 + Run Multi-Core
Did you crash? Yes, that's one of the bad cores, reduce it back to the value in step 1.
5: Go on to the next core (Core 1 in this example) and increase it by 5.
Repeat step 4.
6: Go on to the next core (Core 2 in this example) and increase it by 5.
You continue this pattern until you identify all the bad cores.
7: Leave the bad cores at the stable value then increase all the other cores by 5. Continue until you crash again.
8: Lock in the highest stable values for the remaining cores.
TimeStamps
00:00 Intro
00:27 Boost & Auto OC Terms
02:37 Curve Optimizer What is it?
07:35 Enable Auto OC
08:48 Testing Default PBO w/AutoOC
09:14 Dial In PBO
10:00 How to identify if AutoOC is working?
11:41 AMD's Curve Optimizer Intro
12:08 Setup Curve Optimizer in BIOS
12:50 Dialing In Methodology
13:43 Advance Tuning for Curve Optimizer
14:43 Dial In PBO with Curve Optimizer
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@guywithalltheanswers6942 3 года назад

Wow your channel will blow up my man. Quality like this wont be ignored for long.

@mrsuperselenio5694 Год назад

First of all holy shit! A MASSIVE THANK YOU!!, best guide I have seen so far in the last 6 hours. I am an old school intel OCer and I was trying to understand how exactly this was done to do it on my 5800x as it is a hell of a lot different from playing with core voltage and clocks from Intel CPUs. TIP ON ACHIEVING STABILITY FASTER for any future person who finds this video. To test for stability during the Curve optimizer part use a little program called OCCT as it lets you stress test all cores individually until one fails and it specifically tells you which one it was, that way you don't have to go in blind on which one may have failed, making the process to achieve stability a lot faster. All you have to do is change the parameters of the core that failed and keep testing until they all pass. Hope it helps, I have been binge watching for the past 6 hours.

@matthewhanson498 8 месяцев назад

Occt never caused any failures for me, but was really useful in seeing if I was clock stretching.

@LarryGanz 3 года назад

There should be 1 million views on this series already. Thanks for the help!

@IamMbrand Год назад

just wanna add that the example with the open road is SOOOO good! Such a good explanation

@MonzonMedia 3 года назад

Finally a proper OC guide! Not a hardcore OC'er but I like to try things every now and then, just upgraded to a 5800X and wasn't having luck with undervolting until I watched your series! To be honest I never really understood PPT, TDC and EDC in the way you explained it, simple for folks like me. For me it's like Aperture, Shutter Speed and ISO for photography hahaha! But once I understood the balance of the 3 and utilizing RM to get my numbers, everything else made sense! Really appreciate this and I can see your channel doing well with this kind of knowledge.

@exoticc-lp1sp Год назад

Does anyone know if we have to keep the cinebench running for all cores or can i exit and if nothing happenes

@viniciuscredendio 8 месяцев назад

Thanks to this series of videos, I got better thermals from my Ryzen 5600 without sacrificing performance, PBO + Curso is awesome! Thank you for helping me to understand it!

@ralphbarnes9335 2 года назад

I think your ryzen 5000 power oc guide is the best on youtube. A little overlong but still the best.

@gingaming_gg Год назад

Really appreciate this series... you got a sub from me. I'm working with a 3960x since my upgrade path is shot, trying to squeeze as much out of her as possible and this series really explained it quite a bit... Haven't tried anything just yet because the Asus utility seemed to bring my speeds up and my temps down... but it's def not boosting as high as it used to, but my power draw is also way down. Sounds like a saturday morning project and I'll be using your guide to drive it. Thanks bro.

@dwightsmith7703 Год назад

Thank you for this guide i really struggled understanding how ti do it with edc and tdc now finaly have everything optimised ^^

@richardvankesteren7013 Год назад

This is fantastic info. Last year when I fooled around with settings to boost my new pc, Ryzen 9 5950X, I had setup conflicting settings in the BIOS and ASUS AI Suite3. BIOS setting was a fixed CPU frequency of 3600 and in AI I set the CPU multiplier at 40 to get 4000MHz. I could render animations, but sometimes Asus freezed the system. Last sunday I had 3 times a freeze in 12 hrs (long run animation rendering) which woke me up. Then I scratched my head and realized these settings were wrong. I finally took a look at the already installed but never looked at Ryzen Master app. I looked up AMD Ryzen Master in youtube and found this video serie. Results sofar. Just PBO set up in the app- Cinebench 25380; CPU clock around 4260, then Curve optimazation in BIOS all cores negative 10, PBO + Curce optimize All Curves in app: Cinebench 25515 CPU Clock 4445. Final per curve optimazation will be next step. Thanks mate.

@daddydarklord 2 года назад

Another creater mentioned a way to find your problematic cores. You need to use Event Viewer and make a custom warning for WHEA errors (or a word similar to this) then use the number they give to reference with CPU Z to find the problem core (or divide the number they give you in half and round down.) I can't explain it well though as I'm new to this. Thanks for the video brother! Edit: also! It's important to note your systems "best" cores are the ones you usually need to keep lower than the others because they are already maxed out relative to the others.

@vulcan4d Год назад

I set PBO limits to auto and it gave me the same clock and lower temps and core voltage compared to playing around with PPT, TDC and EDC. Didn't believe it but would have saved lots of time. Curve optimizer has the biggest effect.

@user-tv2zn6lp7g 3 года назад

You've intrigued and now you're making us wait))))

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Just a couple of days. I'm on a MWF schedule right now. I have so many videos to get out on Red Star but I don't want to burn out // over do it.

@weenan 3 года назад

Awsome guide, the Auto OC part was hard to follow though.

@MrWynand2010 3 года назад

thanks, man for the videos they were very helpful.

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Glad to help

@Theplayers_club 2 года назад

Awesome work !!!!

@agreen9903 3 года назад

excellent video

@Pete856 Год назад

Good to know I won the silicon lottery, all my cores are set to -30. Maybe Ryzen master has been updated, because on the basic view I simply clicked on "auto OC" and "all cores" on the curve optimizer, and clicked "Start optimizing". It took about 30 minutes to go through the process of check what each core could run at and then applied it to the BIOS. I have a 7600x and it use to draw 115w and run at 90C, now it draws 80w (65w on the cores), runs at 78C and scores 5% higher on Cinebench.

@xPCGAMEPLAYSx 3 года назад

Thank you this helped me understand how to use pbo :)

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Glad it helped!

@rahalwidanagamage 3 года назад

First of all I have to say you are doing a tremendous work. I am playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. When I checked the processor utilisation with ryzen master, I have never seen the maximum boost clock speed goes up to 4.3 MHz in one core while Other cores runs at less than 4 GHz. so do I really need to overclock my ryzen 7 5800X processor? Because at default state the processor can easily achieve 4.5 MHz all cores even. Sorry if I am asking a stupid question.

@yuyhero 3 года назад

actaully you could check WIndows Event log to find out the WHEA log for the APIC ID and export a report from CPU-Z to find the corresponding core ID from the report. I start with 15 offset for all core because it's the middle between 0-30.

@LongestYardstick 3 года назад

I need to try this

@matthewhanson498 8 месяцев назад

Loading into borderlands 3 was a good stability test for me, make sure you back up your saved first!!!

@GabrielSkolderblad 3 года назад

The problem with curve optimizer is that its not so much under load you find if its stable or not. its under idle.. my pc is stable in all stress tests I throw at it but it fails when im idling around in windows or play a game that doesnt stress my pc at all..

@workthis 3 года назад

Whea code error yep. Feelsbadman

@martywrx 3 года назад

Hello Oskar, I too have been having this problem, were you able to work out the cause? I'm on a 5950x with the curve set at 25 causing idle crashes.

@GabrielSkolderblad 3 года назад

@@martywrx Yes, by changing to a lower number until its stable. - 25 seems much. Test 20, if not stable test 15 or 10 and so on.

@toxy3580 2 года назад

@@martywrx check the event viewer for whea errors

@Mayhem6633 2 года назад

Thanks for you vids. My 5800x ran pretty good out of the box. It ran all-core 4530 MHz and 4850 single core. Optimizing the PBO and AutoOC only got me up to 4575 (no impact to single core) so I wasn't too impressed. Then I implemented the curve optimizer and that's when things improved the most. I got a stable -25 and now I get 4695 all cores, 5 GHz single core, and my temps have gone down from 86 to 80. Between this CPU improvement, my RAM OC, and my 6900xt OC (I followed all your videos) I feel my system is really humming. I've seen noticeable improvements in MSFS 2020 in VR so again, thanks for your vids.

@TheGrayingTech 2 года назад

Congratulations!! Glad to hear you got such great numbers. MSFS is definitely gonna push the envelope, good thing you have a powerful card. How is the game in VR?

@Mayhem6633 2 года назад

@@TheGrayingTech Well MSFS is unmatched by any other game, ever. Seriously. There's no better experience than this game in VR. They've pushed the VR experience to a new level. You get to experience the entire world in VR, with live weather if you want, while flying! Your jaw will drop when you see it. For example, yesterday I wanted to see hurricane Henri. So I googled where it was currently located, then jumped in a plane and flew into the hurricane. It was terrifying with the heavy rain, the lightning, the wind! Unbelievable.

@ryzen89 2 года назад

I was able to set a decent 6-26-30 curve with 10x scalar .. (reads as fastest/second fastest/remaining cores) But my shitty MSI PRO-VDH B450 motherboard crashes on anything above +25 mhz Override. It definitely pays to be on a solid B550 or X570 mobo. Grats to you breaking that 5 ghz mark!

@Mayhem6633 2 года назад

@@ryzen89 Well I had to dial it down a little. It ran stable except for 1 game. MSFS 2020 started crashing. That game pushes my machine to the max in VR and I traced the crashes back to the overclock. Dialing it back a little resolved the crashes but I'm no longer in the 5GHz club :(

@NewYears1978 Год назад

Do you use the PBO settings from previous videos + curve optimizer..or is this one or the other? Or do you have to do the Curve optimizer while on default PBO settings and then redo the PBO settings from the start?

@CMLXMNDXv 3 года назад

You can pinpoint which core won’t take more than 5 negative in curve optimizer. You can check WHEA errors in windows event report which will provide the thread number with error. Then you can open CPU-z, dump a report, open it and match the thread number to core number.

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

I saw a video posted to reddit on this. I think it is a GREAT idea to use their method to get the exact core. Saves soo much time. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dU5qLJqTSAc.html

@CMLXMNDXv 3 года назад

Make sure to create a custom view and check the boxes “warning” and “error” hence WHEA. Save view to a log file for last hour. Open and find a APID number and match that number to CPU-Z which will tell you EXACTLY which core is producing error. This way you can keep adding 5 negative to every core.

@CMLXMNDXv 3 года назад

@Mite Janev some cores cannot be offset even by 1. Rare but can happen, especially on CCD1 if 3900/5900 or 3950/5950

@jessemalonson1114 3 года назад

@Mite Janev its threads. Thread 6 would be core 3. Say you got a number 10. That would not be core ten that would be thread ten core number 5. You need to divide in half and round down if it is a uneven number

@exoticc-lp1sp Год назад

@@TheGrayingTech what happens if we reach 30 we just save it and leave it??

@93ChayZ Год назад

I recently auto optimized using the Ryzen Master and it set all my cores to -30 and my Mhz is now maxed at 4200mhz

@Flotsam7jetsam 3 года назад

Truly great info and I'm very thankful!!! But...applying 1.4+ volts seems like a way to drastically reduce processor life in a big way. And I'm wishing to be wrong on this like I'm missing something so, anyone please correct me.

@SoulBladeM 3 года назад

So I followed all of the steps of your Ryzen master guide. The information is very well presented for a beginner for which I am very thankful. The question I have is... why not to go more than -30 mV on undervolting?

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

If your system can handle it, go for it. The Curve Optimizer isn't a straight line undervolt. It uses a multiplier to determine the actual undervolt. So that 25 value that I use is what gave me the most stability at low load and high load. Each chip will behave differently. If you can go lower, go for it.

@SoulBladeM 3 года назад

@@TheGrayingTech Thank you for the reply. I have 5600X and -30 is quite stable. The values of PPT etc are also down a few numbers.

@santinobandin2704 2 года назад

@TheGrayingTech do you have the excel documents available to download as blank templates that you could put links to in your description?

@YoDaPro 2 года назад

So if I'm happy with the speeds of my 5800X on Stock PBO and just want to undervolt, I can only use Curve Optimizer to do that? Will PBO go to the same clockspeeds then? I usually get up to 4.85 on single and when priming 4.5 on all cores.

@L3nny666 2 года назад

cinebench didn't proof to be a good stability test for me, because i could get it stable, but not in certain games or applications. for example 3ds max which i use a lot. so i found a good case where i could fairly easy reproduce crashes with wrong curve optimzer settings and went per core...was a lot of time invested.

@starrims 3 года назад

Good content man. Will you test RTX 3060?

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Thanks. I’m going to build a test bench and do the same for Intel and Nvidia. I’m also doing the RX 6000 series with Adrenalin and MorePowerTool next month.

@starrims 3 года назад

@@TheGrayingTech ok I’m waiting :)

@zippytpinhead847 7 месяцев назад

Maybe a dumb question but when the core is not capable of the undervolt, does it then boot into safe mode? How do you undo it when you have gone too far?

@matthewhanson498 8 месяцев назад

Pay attention to what your voltage is doing, you can achieve amazing results with stability and think everything is good, but changing edc and tdc will drastically change how much sustained voltage the cores get, in multi thread this can be ok, but in single thread the heat can’t dissipate fast enough. Mine was holding 1.44to 1.468 and bursting up to 1.472 If I hadn’t opened the back of my case I never would have seen flux was forming at the cpu on back of motherboard!! Only touch the power limits if you don’t have high intensity single threaded work loads. Either set a peak voltage limit elsewhere in the bios, or only touch the curve optimizer imo

@andrewg4467 2 года назад

How did you get your single core so stable? I frequently see mine switching between my two "best fit" cores on CCD0 and hovering in the mid 3.5 ghz range on one and 1.5-2 ghz on the other with short periods with one boosting to 4.9.

@TheGrayingTech 2 года назад

Curve Optimizer will certainly help with that. It helps drop the voltage needed, dropping temps, and thus the scheduler doesn't need to hop as much.

@LongestYardstick 3 года назад

Soooo I’ve played with this curve optimizer for about a day now. All is well and good with multi core cinebench at 30 on all cores. Started noticing crashes on cinebench single core. Verified with prime 95. Nailed down the complete automatic order of core allocation and ended up having to tune the highest priority cores with the lowest undervolt and now basically 12 of my cores are at 25, 2 at 20, 2 at 15 and 2 at 10. Prime 95 will run those two highest voltage cores in a torture test without crashing and I’m just wilfully blinding myself to the stability of the highest ones since they seem fine in multi core rendering applications. We will see if they ever crash lol.

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Excellent job.

@LongestYardstick 3 года назад

Couple of thoughts with another day of tinkering. Cooling got 2 degrees worse when I adjusted the fan curves to be quieter. Curve became unstable in single core. Adjusted the fans back up where they were when I initially tuned, curve became stable. Logically since PBO2 will increase thermals I would think you’d want to do that first, then find your max stable undervolt during multi core, and then try to dial in your priority cores. Undervolting will higher thermals, and overall the final product would be more reliable. I could be wrong tho… Oh and obviously all around the best possible cooling you can stand will lead to a chipper cpu. I haven’t found any game stutter or rendering/sculpting delays, this thing is snappy. I’d like to find out if increasing the max boost in bios directly without any other settings will affect the gains I see when fine tuning single core in PBO2 tho…

@neeeksta 3 года назад

Gracious goodness my lord, what sorcery is this?? But um at your leisure could you cast your omnipotent eye on this? Following the 'find out which is a bad naughty core" - it seems a lot of folks are keeping the negative number very small with the gold cores. I am wondering if doing as you suggest - going through each core raising ( negativing it ) to find out which is a goober mutant core(s) AND keeping the gold core(s) low? Thanks in advance ☺

@Metetron 3 года назад

Better cores can actually handle bigger negative values. I recommend trying out ClockTuner and having it analyze your CPU. It'll tell you how good it is overall as well as assign a score to each core. It told me my 5600x was a gold sample and recommended an OC of 4.75 @ 1.3V. It gave my best cores a score of 140 while the weakest got 125. When manually OCing I set the voltage to 1.31V, target clock to 4750 and gave my best cores -30, that weakest core -15 and the other ones -20-25 and it passed CB20. Now in practice figuring out whether it is actually stable will take weeks of real world use and different use scenarios but that's how you could approach it.

@neeeksta 3 года назад

@@Metetron Now that's a coincidence, I was over at Guru3D yesterday wondering if I should give Clocktuner a whirl! .. Thank you so much for that Meteron!

@neeeksta 3 года назад

Super interesting stuff, and how amazing we can all share our experiences. I am at the moment running 2x 8 Corsair 3200s .. I am wondering if I made a boo boo not spending the extra on some 3600 with 16 cas?

@neeeksta 3 года назад

Oh, it appears I have a Silver 5800x -_-

@ntbohl 11 месяцев назад

when I started trying to work with the autoOC, my screen on my primary monitor started flickering and glitching. it gets worse when I turn cinebench off lol. I I guess I shouldn't be using autoOC? Also, if I go into bios and enable the undervolt, ryzen master disables the PBO profile we create through this series. if I enable PBO and restart, it disables the undervolt in the bios!

@Luan_araujo91 3 года назад

Did U Change anything on Load LINE Calibration or cpu core voltage in order to avoid the Vdrop? Do u think CTR delivers best results?

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Yes in my Power Video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fyrE1zEa4T4.html

@simmogaming2342 3 года назад

do you do this in conjunction with the previous video of optimizing the TDC, PPT and EDC and inputting them manually into Bios and Ryzen Master?

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Curve Optimizer is the biggest bang for the buck, as it were. Start there, then fine tune with PBO settings.

@simmogaming2342 3 года назад

@@TheGrayingTech so when i do single core tests in cinebench r23 its using 2 cores. Sometimes it will use one core for maybe a second or 2. Then mostly the 4.9ghz etc is shared between 2 cores. So its hard to see true numbers to fine tune the single core PBO

@ericimi 2 года назад

@@TheGrayingTech I have a b550 Aorus pro with the latest bios and I do not see Curve optimizer please tell me I am just missing something.

@iamblasterpt5838 2 года назад

Ryzen 5600x, Curve optimizer -15 all core, custom ppt 120 tdc 70 edc 80 (tuned in ryzen master then manually set in bios). G-Skill Neo Ddr4 3600mhz Cas16 (no overclock, only xmp on). Cinebench r23 score - 11290, stability test. Default bios settings was 10800, Nad now I play warzone at 48 - 52°c instead of 62c. 240mm aio watercooler. If I fine tune per core I could get better results.

@ryzen89 2 года назад

That's actually downclocking your EDC, and gimping your PPT. It comes 76 PPT - 60 TDC - 90 EDC stock. Raise that value for better results. EDC/PPT gives the gains, not TDC. You'll find the max power draw while under heavy load is around 105w. So set your PPT there. Also, I don't think anything draws over 65 TDC on the 5600x. EDC draw is regularly over 100 amps in many applications. Set your PBO limits to Motherboard, run Cinebench and see what's being drawn for your PPT, TDC, EDC using HWinfo. Then go back in the BIOS and set the PBO limits to just above those values. You'll be hitting closer to 12,000 with a fully tweaked curve plus higher EDC. Can't hurt to throw a 50 to 100 mhz boost override in the mix too. I increased my score 1100 points in CB23 on my 5600x using 100 - 65 - 105. I use a stock cooler. You can beat that.

@mikeclardy5689 7 месяцев назад

So I know this is a super old Cid at this point, but I'm trying my hand at undercoating my 7950x so I get a little better game performance sure, but mainly I just wanna reduce power and heat and hopefully not lose any base performance if I can help it. My cpu can handle -40 on ccd 1 but tends to lock or crash after a while of doing things. I've come to realize that means on of my cores is pushed up near its ceiling and just topples over after enough time. Are there newer tools than the ones mentioned here that could help me identify all the stuff going on in my case that's modern? Ryzen master even on the per core rune setting just lays a flat -30 that crashes my cpu cause my ccd 2 is much weaker than the 1st. I did try -40 ccd1 and -20 ccd 2 and got freezes. -30 on one and -20 on 2 is stable but I get stutters and it's annoying. At stock with just pbo on, during a wake up cycle from sleep where the cpu is all cool but window with hwmonitor is still on, I've seen it record clocks over 6 ghz though. After all the studying on this I have done, some optimized cpu settings can look like; c1 -38, c2 -8, c3 -26, c4 -30, and so on. How do I prepare to dial in that much and how do I get that accuracy? Also sorry for the long message building to these questions. I'm enthusiastic, but also overwhelmed in my predicament here.

@DeepWebDiary 2 года назад

Anytime I try to OC with the 5950x, I get terrible benchmark results. When I turn it off, my CPU gets better benchmark results. Anyone know why that might be?

@debrucey 4 месяца назад

I wish you hadn't prepopulated the table, this was much harder to follow than part 3

@sadidullabib238 2 года назад

Please help me😟 Build this setup two days ago- Ryzen 5 5600G Msi b450m mortar max Deepcool gamemax GT argb cpu cooler (2×8)GB CL16 3200mhz ram Xmp profile is on. I ran the Cinebench R23 test 2 times in multi core and the score is around 890😥. Valorant is also very laggy. The cpu temp is around 42-43°C. I used Ryzen master and during multi core Cinebench all 6 cores run at 399mhz. The amd drivers are up to date. Can you please tell me what am I doing wrong 😭.

@kolbyadams9979 2 года назад

Can you do the auto OC on ryzen master only mess with the curve? I don't really want to mess with anything in ryzen master but I'm willing to play with the BOIS

@Lanzend57 3 года назад

What are we supposed to do with vcore? if I leave at auto it runs really high, close to 1.5v and much hotter than if I set vcore override at 1.35v. Both are stable but am I gimping my set-up's potential?

@buddydudeguy618 3 года назад

One word: Amps. You shouldn't be looking at voltage and freaking out when it hits 1.5v.

@sirnik6304 2 года назад

for me the real challange began not with upgrading my cpu&MB. It was when my gpu followed up (8gb) :D

@saliva1305 2 года назад

is it still good to just auto oc and boost it up to 200?

@ianault8599 3 года назад

My 5900X doesn't crash with -30, I plan on optimizing per-core to try and boost higher for single-threaded stuff.

@thulegezelschap5884 3 года назад

Same here, smooth at -30 but it does not go over 4,95 ghz even though it stays in the 70 degree temp range. I dis not know you had to adjust the target boost

@ianault8599 3 года назад

@@thulegezelschap5884 I ended up doing -30 on everything and about -25 on my second fastest and -27 on my fastest. This got me 5.125GHz on the fastest and 5.0GHz on second fastest

@thulegezelschap5884 3 года назад

@@ianault8599 I did not know you could raise the boost target. Going to see if I can get it at 5.0 at least. That ,05 missing now really irritates me 😂

@TheOnlyGambitX Год назад

Ive been loving this guide! But i cant lie, you completely lost me at OC. I think perhaps because it wasnt walked through like the previous videos. Can anyone help provide some insight?

@v_cpt-phasma_v689 Год назад

i did the curve optimiser in ryzen master rather than bios, is there a downside to this?

@Runner50783 3 года назад

The gains I've achieved with Curve Optimizer vs Auto OC are 5 - 10%, I've a "silver" 5800X I'm able to undervolt most cores to negative 25, funny enough the system instability comes at idle states, when my highest performing cores go way to low on voltage.

@Runner50783 3 года назад

@UMI Indeed, used the WHEA event to trace down the cores and yes, my two fasterst cores where crashing. They seem fine at about negative 18, been 36 hours error free. all other cores I'veen been able to push to 30

@denosgaming5928 2 года назад

@UMI i have a ryzen 5800x 2 and i can go on all cores negative 20 but if i put 25 or 30 crash... i will try to se /core and the 2 fastest cores let them to 20 and the others to 25 im curios if it will work.

@SoundSelector 3 года назад

I have my 5600X with 450 tomahawk max at +200mhz with negative10 allcore,ram 3600c14. - using arctic 34 duos PWM- cinebench 20 got 4409/629 Cinebench 23 11474/1611 not bad considering I m almost within spec.

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Those are great scores. Your RAM is certainly helping there too. Is that Samsung B-Die?

@ryzen89 2 года назад

11259 on a 5600x. My SC is trash compared to yours though - 1398. I don't use a 200 mhz override, or any override for that matter. It's not stable on this shitty motherboard. 110 PPT, 65 TDC, 105 EDC 5 - 25 - 5 - 25 - 25 - 25 curve, 10x scalar

@JosePto 4 месяца назад

This is hard to me to understand and honestly I don't have enough time to run all steps and tests... I have a 5900X, isn't there any auto setting to just apply and see temps and voltages go down?

@liquidsunshine697 2 года назад

Ryzen Master seems to stop working every other restart. To where I need to reinstall. So I just adjust everything via BIOS then monitor with HWinfo

@ryzen89 2 года назад

CB 23 is good for understanding where your limits are, and when diminishing return occurs. But how curve optimizer works -- is it becomes unstable during low load (with fluctuating voltage) situations. Prime 95, Geek Bench, and CB 23 are not good methods for testing Curve Optimizer stability. Running Prime 95 single core is a decent method. Playing a CPU intensive game is a great method. Letting your PC idle for a long time, and/or multitasking with it is another. Stress testing all cores is not. That's actually when it's more stable. So many people go "Dude I hit 5 ghz in CB 23". Yeah, go play a Triple A title. You'll crash.

@alexandrealt98 2 года назад

100% right

@stephanelouvet1113 3 года назад

14:00 There is a way to find out which core makes the crash in the system events.

@pyrotenax472 2 года назад

In Event Logger , set up a custom view of WHEA only with event source as "WHEA-Logger". Check after crash and the APIC ID divided by 2 (and rounded down if odd number) will be the problematic core

@mastergarduno5807 Год назад

If -25 is 5 making it -20 , then what would my offset be if it was -22

@BigBLittleG 2 года назад

I think I won the Lottery boys 😂🙌 my 5600x runs stable at 4850mhz single core and 4820mhz multi core with 200mhz PBO boost and 30 on the negitive under volt and it runs at a cool 75°c 👀

@MonsterChuck 2 года назад

I attempted this at negative 10 first. Ran for 30min and then started to freeze one window at a time in Windows. Set everything back to default. A few days later I attempted to set it to negative 5. Ran for hours and then started to freeze one window at a time. Have it set back to auto now and create a WHEA event logger to see if when it crashes it is due to a specific core. I haven't gotten the courage to start trying this again.

@fuckjoebiden 2 года назад

it's probably your two fastest cores that are crashing. if you don't feel like tuning each core individually you could leave those two stock and try the rest of them at -10. my best two can do -1 and -9, the rest of my cores are between -18 and -27

@icyflows 3 года назад

I've been messing with this for months and stability is so difficult to achieve its not worth using the curve optimizer. Like others have said the stability at idle is the issue. Managed to get 5150mhz call and 4950mhz effective single core running cinebench r23. Then multi core 4650mhz call and 4650mhz effective falling to 4500mhz when fully heated. I currently just use normal PBO with motherboard setting for PPT. 4850mhz single core and 4450mhz multi core

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

It's a balancing act. If you are crashing on the low end, you can use Event Manager to find the core that caused the crash and then decrease the magnitude of that core.

@icyflows 3 года назад

@@TheGrayingTech Thanks for the tip I'll try that.

@ashrafhussain8719 3 года назад

As soon as i run it on Boost overclock cpu on 100 my system crashes. any advice I have a 5900x

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Try the power settings in the latest video. They should help by adjusting the amount of current flowing to the chip at boost.... or you could be experiencing VDroop which can be addressed with load-line calibration.

@rudycas2008 3 года назад

I understood the previous videos, to adjust the values, but... well.. I didn't understand this one. I know it's a dumb question.. but why do you undervolt? I know that is used to lower the temps... but well.. as you can see I don't understand that part at all.

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

No dumb questions. Questions are an opportunity for me to create more videos. 😀 Your CPU needs electricity and that comes in the form of Volts and Current. It's how the CPU does it's work. But not all CPUs need the same amount of Volts to do the same amount of work. By lowering the Volts provided, you decrease the temps OR you can do more work for the same amount of volts. E.g. By default the CPU wants 1.15 Volts to run at 4.5Ghz with a resulting temp of 75c. However, if you lower the volts to 1.10, the CPU only goes to 70c at 4.5Ghz So you can now run fast, 4.6GHz at 1.15 Volts and 75c. Effectively, you have caused the CPU to be more efficient with Volts and Temps because it does more work (4.6GHz) for the amount of electricity.

@rudycas2008 3 года назад

@@TheGrayingTech Thanks... I thought that undervolting will cause the CPU work a little bit slower... and not getting higher Hz

@ertai222 2 года назад

The point is to be able to use less voltage which uses less power which in turn produces less heat to reach the same clock speeds that we would typically achieve at higher voltages but at higher heat. Heat kills performance. So what we're trying to achieve is the minimum stable voltage we can use to reach the highest performance.

@03rreeojake 3 года назад

I got lucky with my 5800x, I am able to use pbo and curve optimizer with a negative 25 on all cores plus 200mhz. I am see all core boosts for 5.024ghz and and all core load in r20 of 4.7. Anyone else had results like that?

@Koeras16 3 года назад

That pretty nice. Mine is stuck with +50 and far less aggressive offsets. Though my 5800X does boost to 4.650 all core and single core 4.9 GHz. By consequence the margin is rather small.

@mihauOne87 3 года назад

After Reached negative with 30 and 100mhz is possible to try 200mhz with negative steps a5?

@TheGrayingTech 3 года назад

Absolutely. Definitely check to make sure the system is hitting the existing number though. HWInfo is good at capturing the average and max. If it is, i would go up 50 first and check again.

@mihauOne87 3 года назад

@@TheGrayingTech you have to make more detailed video about OC + HWinfo.... My big Respect for you Explanatory videos that are also suitable for beginners

@saliva1305 2 года назад

i made it to 30 on all core curve in bios now what 😂 no cinebench crashes on start, should i test a longer cinebench run, like 30 min to an hour, or longer?

@ertai222 2 года назад

Prime95 will show you right quick you're not 100% stable at -30 on all cores.

@saliva1305 2 года назад

@@ertai222 nvm now.

@ertai222 2 года назад

@@saliva1305 lol😅

@toxy3580 2 года назад

If it crashes very early change your LLC a little and see what happens if you have a low LLC

@ryzen89 2 года назад

LLC defeats the purpose of curve optimizer. Just lower your curve by a few points if it isn't quite stable. LLC 1 or 2, is only necessary for getting a 200 to 300 mhz boost override stable. Takes a lucky chip to even reach those clocks.

@toxy3580 2 года назад

@@ryzen89 it's not doing the same thing

@ertai222 2 года назад

I have seperate values to each core but LLC 3 for both.

@syntax5118 6 месяцев назад

i cant even find them option

@Antyss08 Год назад

This guide is 6/10, people do more research.

@Kalvis1 5 месяцев назад

Why is my prime core sleeping?

@ertai222 2 года назад

On my 5600 core 5 is my best (Gold) and core 1 2nd best (Silver), core 6 is by far my worst and hardest to keep stable with CO -volt followed by core 3. 1,2,4,5 good, 3,6 garbage 🗑️.

@AMRsti93 2 года назад

i had the overclock stable for like 12 hours and then just out of nowhere my computer did a black screen hard restart pbo 205 tdc 135 edc 140 25 Curve optimizer temps were all fine no throttling 4.95 ghz

@patricksweetman3285 Год назад

Silicon, not silicone.

@michaelkazda7014 3 года назад

It's pronounced sili-kahn not sili-cone. Silicon is an element in the produce table, what chips are made of. Silicone is a molecule. How many people many this mistake...