Dice Control Championship 

“That’s a controlled shot” rolls a 7

Excellent Jeremy. Pure entertainment is what it was meant to be, and that’s what you delivered. Good stuff.

Me and King Dice have a great deal in common. We both sux are throwing the bones

So I have tracked around 42,000 rolls with bone tracker. I agree with people in the comments he's hitting the corner of the wall. I use a camera with slow motion to see my throws. One thing I'll say is, I don't think dice control offers insane amounts of protection from the 7. People are expecting that if you practice hard enough, you can just go out and throw 20 times whenever you want. That just isn't mathematically possible. I firmly believe you can throw less sevens than random, but it will never average out to be that amazing. Currently, I average around 10/10.5 throws per round. Now, one thing that setting and dice control does 100% work on, and in my opinion, is the real gift, is getting on average the numbers you want more often. When I set har ways, I easily outpace the random amount of hardways. When I set 6/8 I easily outpace the amount of 6/8 I would throw if it was random. At the same time, I believe controlling bets is just as important as setting dice and controlling. You need to understand when to press, when to take some money.. when to understand you are hitting a number more often than random. I think it is also important to know when to come, and when to go. I've seen people be up 5x-10x...20x+ the amount of money they brought with them to the casino and give it all back.

Great video! Can't wait for part 2! Thanks for teaming up guys. You both are doing wonders for the game. I really enjoy both your channels. Keep it up!

This is great. Can't wait to see a strategy video. Should have both of you shooting at the same time for that so KD has to deal with your random rolls for his disadvatage. You would have disadvantage with his rolls because he would know what he would be shooting. Keep up the work CU.

That was way cool! Can’t wait for part II.

Thanks for the video!! I loved the production value!! The lighting and camera angles are great.. The dice controller vs the random shooter debate will never cease. It's all about what's comfortable to you. I like to set the dice but I don't hate on random shooters. I've made and lost plenty of money on both styles of shooters. The math is the math but sometimes someone gets on a hot roll. i play the DarkSide but with place and field bets. Shooting dice is a great game and should always be fun!! Can't wait to get back to the tables!! Roll on my brothers!!

Love these videos man. Went to the casino with $40 bucks walked out with $200. The Iron Cross baby!

Bottom line.. CRAPs is a brilliant game that cannot be MASTERED. Dice control, Super Sets, Random throws.. It will all come back to the algorithm, MATH doesn't lie. Both of these guys are class acts, trying hard, and both know when it comes to this game it's ALL about Money management , protecting the bank roll, not being emotional, and taking what the day gives. Thank you both for your time and efforts to make these videos. Vic "Vicious" aka. Dr. Dice

thanks for the video! excited to see the part 2, and the video of your dice control training

I would love to see you and KD go head to head in a game, with him playing his 5 and out strategy and you playing your favorite strategy.

That was fun.. bring on the next round 🎲🎲

Man that’s a beautiful table it reminds me of Christmas and gives the same warm feelings

Great idea, looking fwd to part two and the strategy vid would be great too. Thanks really enjoyed this 👍

Great video! Lot of fun it looked like.

Love that hat King Dice. Go nuggets! I really enjoy watching learning from you guys. Hope to see you guys in Blackhawk one day.

This KD guy is full of it. Period.

Dice control and controlled mechanics or random rolls and mathematics. The beauty of craps is the debate can continue until the chickens come home to roost, but it is possible to wager on every outcome and someone will either lose a pretty penny or earn enough comps for a bakery pastry in any given window.

I love this ! More A1 content from Color Up! Huge fan here from Massachusetts, hope you guys are getting through this health crisis ok! Much Love , - Waldo

I like that Dice King is NOT hoping for a comeout-7, 11, craps they are a waste of time. I think dice King needed some money at risk and his roll starts clickin' like it's supposed to 😎

really like the idea of the Random Vs. Setter, but we all know any given day it can go either way.. thx

Collab is great! Keep them coming.

Color Up is shooting hot! Lots of 7’s on the come out rolls

I think you best mode color up u taught me how to play and multipule strategies my biggest mistake I always make is knowing when to switch stragies and how to stay away from field I kill myself all the time I play the field it's hard to stay away lol anyways keep up the good work and get that win

That's a controlled shot. Oh no it's not! HAHAHAHAH!

That dude is so full of himself I cringe every time I see him and hear him. “I’m an athlete” psh.

Thanks for the vids to get us through the panicdemic. 😷 I'm a dice setter who generally fares better than the random shaker. But no one I've seen is consistently "7 proof". For me, craps is more about betting strategies to make a profit before the inevitable 7 out.

Good video guys!

lost it after the 4th come out 7, MY MAN IS EMPLOYEING THE SAME STRAT. being calm and collected.

i have never been a huge believer in dice control. it has always seemed like one of the many casino tricks that do not really work. i live in Texas (no casinos), but we make 2-3 trips a year to either Louisiana or Vegas. In reality, i am usually a dark side player. It is just my comfort zone. So, i rarely shoot the dice. I most frequently pass. When I do shoot, I cant bet against myself, but usually lose my own money with betting on the pass line and rolling short. I decided before my last trip to Vegas (went right before the Covid shutdown) to just watch a few videos. My trip started out as usual - playing the dark side and passing at my turn to shoot. This changed one morning when I stepped up to a dead table. I wanted to pass a little time waiting for the wife and decided to shoot. I tried to put some consistency to my set and my shot. I wasn't trying to be a pro and true dice controllers would have probably chewed my technique and set apart. Here is where this story gets good....we went to old downtown that day. First stop Golden Nugget. Full table. I decided to shoot at my turn. It wasn't amazing, but it earned money for most of the table. I walked away almost doubling my money. Second stop Binions. This is where things get REAL good. i played for a while before dinner going back to the dark side and almost doubled my money again. Then after dinner I stepped up to a table that was opening. it opened as a full table. 2 shooters then my turn. I tried to do what I had done that morning in terms of set and consistency. I rolled for FIFTY minutes. I hit at least 8 points and the whole table (including myself) made a ton of money. Most cashed out right after I was finished. They all left with huge smiles and had massively colored up. As the dice went around the table again, I played the dark side and won more money. Then it was back to me again......i rolled for another TWENTY FIVE minutes. It was amazing! By that point, my wife and mom in law were ready to head back to NYNY - our home hotel. I rolled a few times with average rolls the next day - not great, but not bad! BUT that night I was on a roll again. I "hit 'em all" on 1 turn and "all small" on another. And had several other good rolls. In the end, I have to say that dice "control" is an awful term. Dice "influence" however is much more believable. One can never guarantee a great roll in my opinion. BUT I learned that a consistent set and consistent shot style can work. It turned this skeptic into at least a semi believer.

Great video. Kudos to you both (CU and KD) for putting this together. Very entertaining. Aaron

Very entertaining video! I hate to say it but KD is full of it.

Color up is a laid back dude, Id love to roll dice with him in real life, I wouldn’t mind rolling with dice guy either though. Ive always been a shy person the the craps table is a very social place and i like just being there. And seeing how people bet.

I also applaud Color Up for standing up & defending his friend ( King), because it’s very easy to throw someone that teaches Dice Influencing under the bus when they aren’t shooting well!!! Even though Color Up is not a proponent of Dice Influencing, he is still respectful to King Dice when King doesn’t do well tossing the dice!! I hope King, & Color Up continue to display such a good friendship. WELL DONE ....gentlemen!!!! I thoroughly enjoy when you guys post videos together!!

plot twist, @ColorUp has been a dice controller this whole time, he's just 3 or 4 levels above everybody

Love it.........!!!!!!!

I Love watching these videos to prefect my craft but I need more videos with the tables at casinos now which are more bouncy to get a better idea on new strategies

Omg this is halarious

My best 2 rolls where chunking em down the table! 2k+ each time.

interesting video. would love to see more like it

One thing I noticed when KD throws, his dice hit in the hook area. This creates more spin and knocks the dice off axis. I generally try to aim for the center of the wall so that the dice hit a straight flat surface and then come back out straight (hopefully). If someone has chips on the pass line, I will aim right or left of that area but throwing in the hook diamonds increases the likelihood of a non-controlled throw off axis. Just my .02

I wish you guys played for money or chips. Same buy in say 250 10 dollar table . Bet how you bet most money in the end wins 👍🏽👍🏽

Not a big fan of the concept but sure enjoy the video and seeing all sides of the game. Good job

Hilarious video.

Great video. Sadly, so many comments are focused on mocking this guy instead of appreciating the content. Yeah, there's a lot of ego here, but it says a lot of positive of things about his ego that he participated in this KNOWING it could go like this. Why can't we just enjoy things? Why cant we accept that some people play for fun, and some people get super serious and call themselves pro? Who cares if someone isn't like you, or doesn't play like you? Humans can be so petty and exhausting. If ya'll keep talking shit about this guy, it means we wont get interesting content in the future. Bravo.

Better to be lucky than "good" especially in craps! 😂 lmao King Dice the dice control expert yeah okay.

Buddy of mine,first time ever shooting dice was an hour and half roll. Harrah’s AC. It was unreal

Lmfao!!! I am MR. HITTIN HARDWAYS aka Sir Hop-A-Lot, SHO NUFF, THE CRAPSASSIN, THE SHARP SHOOTER i'm a true Dice Controller and i can hop all the numbers. Hopping all the hardways or the horn bet are my go to bets. 30 to 1 or 15 to 1 EVERY roll fellas that is control....Otta-be Gotta-be!!!

Age 50 surprised the hell out of me lol

Explaining to anyone with an education that dice control is bogus is like having to tell an adult that Santa Claus isn't real. They really should just know better.

It was fun being the stickman😁😁😅😅😅

In Round #3, you hit your point of 10 and should have kept the dice after coming out again with the 7

I’ve done the math on this and I don’t see a difference between the two. Theoretically the odds should be the same. But that doesn’t mean I right. I would like to see this tested.

Good video thanks for sharing

This video proves that DC's or randos are the same. I like to set my dice but i've played the game long enough to know the casino's are not and will never be scared of shooters! Good job!

First of all thank you for share all the strategies. It’s very funny that people really think they can control dice

This is why I hedge huge on big red

Nice Table!

Your not so bad as i thought (personality wise lol), i realized that at 14:57 of the video. King Dice still a major fail dude was tryna call your sevens not realizing he has more than you 😂😂😂😂. This is hilarious!! Dice control is real to clear things up. Hes just the biggest clout chasing joke around (king dice). i seen him switch to a random roller last video, i think you inspired him color up lmao

So called 'Dice Control' is a well known casino hustle where the Professional Hustler gains the confidence of a tourist or non-hustler to: 1. Finance the hustler in a game of Dice and share the profits, 2. Be coached in how to toss the dice to have long rolls. Either way, the only one who makes money is the Hustler.

I feel like the 3v is not a safe set. If you are pitching even the slightest bit you'll 7 more often. It happened to me a lot with that set. Also I've done equally good/bad with setting vs just chucking them. It's fun to set and try for certain numbers. But ultimately it really doesn't matter

King Dice. About your throw. If I might make a suggestion. IMO..You have a hitch in it. You set up, then your hand slides back in a partial PARR pendulum throw. Your throw ends up not axial. Get a set of barrel dice..glue two together perfectly and then try your throw. If the dice wobble in the air..that will tell you you need to work on keeping them flat to the back wall. Also make sure you just give one rotation to the dice since you are throwing from SL..not SO.,

Awesome video. KD seems to have his strategies and tactics but he just seems out of mind when rolling with you. Maybe he's too nervous. 😆 hopefully i can roll dice with you one day in Vegas if we're ever there at the same time. I like to try and do dice control but i incorporate dice control with betting strategy and it keeps me at the table for hours, i just need fine tuning. Keep up the great videos, pretty much the best craps videos and editing out there.

The hard way shot is the best dice set for avoiding the 7.

i have alot of success from far end of table with smooth spin 6 inches from the wall dice setis { X } 3/2 2/3

What have we learned. Pass line and any 7 on color ups first come out roll.

Not sure about the control part, but the pro did hit the same same spot of the table consistently and kept the dice tight in the corner. So control the dice position, yes, I like it.

What's up KD and Color up! Found a $$$$ making STRATEGY that i would love to show you 1 day after this coronavirus is over. Enjoying the lesson and mind set!

Controlled throwing and dice setting won me $1,250 two nights ago.

For me when I see big red coming up with one dice set I change up and use a different one

Every time I see KD on Color up, I know dice control is gonna look like a scam 😂. Worst luck!

In the interview his face was pixelated, now it's not... Wonder why

Great video, I switch back and forth, I do better at “random”. If you guys were working on come out the session would have been like ouch.

“Don’t bet against Color Up!”

Seen that KD guy at the palm last week. He had zero control and a small bet guy. Kind of sad

16:45 - 17:20 dealer was not taking too kindly to king dice lmao

Where did you get the table?

I've personally only seen dice control work in bubble craps

No matter what numbers you place on the right, left, top, bottom, front or back there are only three ways for the 6 & 8 Two ways for the 4,5,9 &10 and two ways for the seven, on the Do side when dice setting That's it!!! Your best odds ( yes your best odds) is when you roll and set the dice from the Don't side and less than 5% of players know or use those dice sets. Good Luck at the tables. 🧐☯ P.S. Learn your six "Master dice sets" stay on Axis and hope for a little luck.

I think Mrs. King would have embarrassed both of you. Lol

this just shows, that we have NO control on the dice, it is 100% random. thank you!

I really enjoy your videos, Jeremy, and I appreciate the way you present them in such an unpretentious manner and without bias. But I think King Dice may have to think about changing his nickname. :) Another poor showing to say the least. Surprisingly the random roller had almost twice as many rolls as self described King Dice 39 to 20. And he would have had a few more rolls if he would have gotten credit for his point 10 winner and following come out 7 winner in round 4. Jeremy had 12 7s for an SRR of 1:3.25 (but 5 were on the come out) while KD had seven 7s for an SRR of 1:2.86. I really wish you would have taken the time to actually make some bets during the rolls so we could see win/loss comparisons. But it wasn’t that hard to follow along with potential bets. Let’s say Jeremy flat bet $32 across since he is more conservative than KD. And of course he would be off on the come out. Over the five rounds Jeremy would have won $57. If KD had used his 5 and out system he would have lost over $2800! He didn’t make 5 rolls one time in five rounds without hitting a 7! Heck he would have lost approximately $2100 just flat betting with his $320 across and place bets turned on for the come out. As some have pointed out, KD is upset with the CU come out 7 winner on the very first roll saying it would ruin some bonus bets!? I would be willing to bet a lot more players have pass line bets than bonus bets on the come out. In round 3 KD tries, maybe just playful teasing, to diminish CU by pointing out he had 3 7s in 9 rolls (actually 10, Mr B miscounted) but 2 were co 7 winners. Then in round 5 he says he is going to hop the 7 after 3 numbers (Gambler's Fallacy anyone?). He talks about hopping the 7 against random rollers (wait, I thought he played alone). He says he can hop the 7 three times and make a profit...what!? the odds of making a 7 are 5-1. The whole point of having a controlled throw is to have an advantage over the casino. I don’t know of any AP that would make a bet with an 11% HA. That’s a really bad bet!! KD seems like a nice guy and a lot of fun, and I’m sure I would enjoy having a beer with him, but I’m not sold on his throw or his betting philosophy. At least 2 throws actually hit the back wall first and several short hopped it. I really don’t understand why people think he might be nervous by being on camera. He has his own RU-vid channel, he is on camera all the time! I apologize in advance for the long post, I’m just bored and killing time! LOL

King Dice = King Dope. Doesn't even set his dice properly. I would bet with color up

Because I am usually a "dont pass" player, I hop big red (7's) on the come out roll all of the time, so I still like seeing 7's on the come out rolls. At a $10 table come out roll; $10 don't pass, $6 Hop big red (7), $2 yo (11) , $2 twelve (12). If one of the come out "action numbers (2,3,7,11,12) hit, you will profit. If a point is established, you only lose $10. If you hit the 12, it works out because you keep your don't pass bet and gain the money from the 12. ($2 @30-1 = $60 - minus $8 to stay up on your hop big red and yo = $52 profit) . After the point is established, place a $10 on the point to not lose any more money - remember, the don't pass covers the 7.

"That's a controlled shot". 7

I couldn't play at a table with King Dice. Craps is suppose to be a fun game, and with his strategy it seems he'd kill the tables vibe. 7's on the come out roll are a good thing, and to say it's bad cause of your strategy is no good. It's just like walking up to a table with a hot shooter and betting on the do not pass

I've seen random and setters have good and bad days. Casino's change there tables daily to prevent streaks. One day its bouncy and the next there's very little to no bounce. Its all about luck and energy.

Controlled or random doesn't really matter. You can win or lose either way. Let's see some strategy vs. strategy videos and find out who makes more money in the long run. That's what we all care about right? 🤑💰

The reason people believe dice control is fake, cause there are very few people that can actually do it the proper way, it takes years of practice and hours a day, Iv been playing for 2 years now and Iv honestly only seen one true controller at a casino and I play a lot. Iv been practicing it since The first month I started and still have a ways to getting it down and not a single throw Iv seen in this video was controlled the landing zone way to close to the wall and to much energy coming off the back wall

Jeremy thank you for the video. I will start by saying I'm not a troll, but King Dice is not proving what dice control is about. With what he says about Practice ,Grip and mental attitude and him not throwing consistent is like telling someone that if you believe that 1+1 = ? and not give the true results of the equation a little is misleading. Look this guy is truly proggressing in bringing the table game to life with his great attitude. But he is not what he is purporting to be.

I'm open-minded to dice control, but not sold. Here's what I'll say about this session....while the "dice-controller" had more sevens, it seems to me that it was pretty obvious to tell a "good" throw from a "bad" throw. Just so happens that most of the "dice-controller's" "bad" throws came up big red this time...very interesting, but not sold yet.

🤣🤣🤣 Trojan horse of DI 😂😅

What the heck is up with the apostrophe in "Don t Pas's Bar" at the 7:21 mark? :D I hope you got this table at a discount! :D

How much it will cost me a class with the King of Craps?, he can show me how to throw 7's 😂

@7:25 - 7:35 Some accuracy with the shot he got there

What's a good tip in chips to the table per hundred in winnings? I tipped 20 for 600, but now I'm thinking it I was cheap now. Rolled for 40 mins

Can you explain to me the hopping the 7s theory. He talks about it at about 14:00. I have two questions. One he stated he would make 1600.00 on his bet, how much is he placing to get that and second when does he start hopping...after the 4th roll of a random shooter?

What dice set did you use?

I absolutely believe dice control can beaccomplished, but this video certainly doesn't help the argument. That being said, I appreciate you showing the grind and not refilming to conform with a desired outcome. I just wish KD wouldn't talk such a big game about performing under pressure when money is on the line, then caving with the camera. I was very impressed when he was hitting his landing zone without even looking.