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Did ANNE BOLEYN have a PSEUDO PREGNANCY in 1534? Causes of pseudo pregnancies. Six wives documentary 

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Did ANNE BOLEYN have a PSEUDO PREGNANCY in 1534? The second wife of Henry VIII is generally assumed to have had three pregnancies; one which resulted in the birth of Elizabeth I in 1533, one which ended in an unrecorded miscarriage or stillbirth in the summer of 1534 and one which ended in a miscarried son in January 1536. These are also the pregnancies frequently shown in films, TV shows and documentaries about Henry’s doomed Queen, such as The Tudors and Wolf Hall. There is debate however, as to whether Anne Boleyn’s second pregnancy was real, or if she mistakenly thought she was expecting again; a condition known as a pseudo pregnancy (or pseudocyesis). Indeed her step-daughter, Queen Mary I, would later experience one of the most famous cases of pseudo pregnancy in history, due to the extreme psychological stress she felt around the need to produce an heir. In Anne’s case, the Imperial Ambassador, Eustace Chapuys, reported that by September 1534, Henry was beginning ‘to entertain doubts as to his mistress’ reported pregnancy’ and this comment has fuelled speculation that Mary was not the only Tudor Queen affected by pseudocyesis. In this six wives documentary from History Calling, we’ll look at the evidence for Anne’s middle pregnancy, the causes of pseudo pregnancies and how likely it is that she suffered from this phenomena. In the course of the video, I’ll also reveal how many pregnancies Anne Boleyn had and discuss the theory that she was pregnant in the summer of 1535.
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@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Do you think Anne’s 1534 pregnancy was genuine or not? Let me know below and remember to SUBSCRIBE with NOTIFICATIONS switched on and check out the DESCRIPTION BOX for suggestions for books, movies and TV shows about Anne. You can also join my PATREON site for extra perks at www.patreon.com/historycalling
@marieciaburri4057
@marieciaburri4057 2 года назад
She. Certainly was under enough pressure to at least b pregnant. The phenomenon is rooted in deep pyschological reasons. I think it's absolutely possible
@itsjustme7487
@itsjustme7487 2 года назад
Being married to Henry would be enough for any woman involved with him to have some issues. Especially considering that he was determined to have a son.
@midnight_rose2337
@midnight_rose2337 2 года назад
I think she was pregnant. The fact that it was so soon after Elizabeth’s birth probably led to the miscarriage. Her body was not given the time to rest, which is why the so called “churching” period must have been a brutal regimen. Personally I think a woman should be given a minimum of three months between delivery and the continuation of sexual relations.
@notbill08
@notbill08 2 года назад
Even back than there was no shame in having a miscarriage. As you pointed out in your other video on King Henry's fertility problems, there was no pre- natal care in the 1500's. If that second pregnancy resulted in a miscarriage and the baby was severely deformed, that would be a strong reason to hush up the miscarriage.
@traceyhurd2859
@traceyhurd2859 2 года назад
@@midnight_rose2337 completely 100 percent especially when your pregnancy could be your last days alive and you have to draw up a will and testament. Middle aged at 15 and married of as well at stupid ages most of the time your own family yuk inbred gross would have been so very unhappy people around back then
@cynhanrahan4012
@cynhanrahan4012 2 года назад
Given that she became pregnant so soon after the birth of Elizabeth, her uterus would not have had the time to recover. It makes great sense that she lost a baby in the late second trimester or early third, and she's lucky to have lived through it.
@prymoirdyamiller3184
@prymoirdyamiller3184 2 года назад
What do you expect, ahh she's ready for another child so soon after birth, who else wants a christmas dinner? Better enter now for christmas delivery
@skontheroad
@skontheroad 2 года назад
Well, tell that to two of my 4 kids... but technically speaking, she would have been "churched" 40 days after giving birth (still practiced in many religions), and not until then could she sleep with Henry again. Nowadays we are told that nursing prevents conception (something I can attest to is NOT to be counted on. Twice in fact, altho no one wanted to hear about my "silly" excuse a second time, lol). And at that time, she would not have nursed her own child. And nonetheless, Chapuys would not have been a reliable source. Queen (Bloody) Mary had a good reason to have a pseudopregnancy, as she actually had uterine cancer (or another type in the same "area"), yet for Anne, any talk of a pseudopregnancy, was never discussed. Anyone pregnant would have known better the second time around, as mentioned in this video.
@midnightcoalexpress
@midnightcoalexpress 2 года назад
I know 3 people who got pregnant at the 6 week mark and their kids are only 9 months apart. Irish twins! Woot!
@MammaCass
@MammaCass 2 года назад
@@midnightcoalexpress I have two 9 months and three weeks apart. I must admit I struggled to keep the second pregnancy and she arrived prematurely after a difficult time from the start. Thankfully they are now great siblings he’s just turned 18 and she is 17. Best accident of my life 💕
@jamielynn8497
@jamielynn8497 2 года назад
@@midnightcoalexpress I’m one of those moms! I got pregnant 8 weeks after giving birth and have 2 daughters that are the same age from June to august every year :)
@gospelaccordingtojohn8959
@gospelaccordingtojohn8959 2 года назад
This story, as well as Mary Tudor’s pseudo-pregnancy, I have always found fascinating. It appears to happen even today when women are under stress trying to get pregnant. It also says that their husbands can exhibit the same pregnancy symptoms as their wives. A sort of sympathy pregnancy. The human brain is so much more powerful than we give it credit for.. Thanks again for these thoughtful gems from history.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
You're very welcome :-)
@bornagain1589
@bornagain1589 2 года назад
All non-compassionate Fathers should experience pseudo-pregnancy! Number one being my ex-husband...
@peachygal4153
@peachygal4153 2 года назад
Mary Tudor had cancer and her mid section was bloated making her think she was pregnant.
@tweetypie1978
@tweetypie1978 2 года назад
@@bornagain1589 I'd prefer them to have sympathetic labour! :)
@stephaniehowe0973
@stephaniehowe0973 2 года назад
Is there a video about Mary's?
@tamielizabethallaway2413
@tamielizabethallaway2413 9 месяцев назад
I just wanted to thank you for mentioning what is called today; a missed miscarriage. You mentioned a baby "being miscarried and not yet delivered of her body" I believe words of a doctor... and many people, are not aware this can happen. They automatically presume a miscarriage to be losing a baby out of your body, that dies due to being far too premature. I also thought that at one time, and have had four such miscarriages myself. However I have also miscarried another baby, (which was technically the fourth of five pregnancies total that I lost) and this was a missed miscarriage. Having had one daughter followed by three miscarriages at this point, I felt the familiar knot of dread upon finding a few spots of blood in my knickers. However it was only a couple of tiny dots, and I'd bled fairly heavily whilst pregnant with my daughter, and she was fine. But just to be certain I went to hospital, over exaggerated the amount of blood loss, in order to get an early ultrasound. I was 11 weeks pregnant, and wasn't due an official dating / nuchal fold scan for two weeks. The sonographer said, "aha there's your baby!" at which me and my husband were thrilled, but she soon went quiet and excused herself out the room for a minute. She came back with an obstetric consultant, he had a look at the screen as he scanned me again, and then told us the baby had no heartbeat. I was correctly 11+ weeks pregnant, however my baby was only 8 weeks developed, maximum. My baby had been dead inside of me for three weeks at that point and I'd had no idea. I then heard someone scream out in the corridor and ran out to find out who was hurt, and a few moments later two nurses scooped me up off the floor and I realised the woman screaming was myself. God this was 18 years ago now and that just brought tears back! It was a Friday and we went home for the weekend to wrap our heads around the news, and I was booked in for an operation on the Monday morning. Over the weekend the thing that broke my heart the most, was that I didn't want to lose my baby...but my baby didn't want to leave Mummy either! I didn't want my baby to be taken from me, on an emotional level anyway, as I felt like this baby didn't want to be separated from me. Having never heard of missed miscarriage prior to this, it was a surreal thing to come to terms with. I'd presumed babies die and the body flushes them out soon after....or that for some reason the baby detaches, and dies during the process of being delivered. But physically I knew I had to have the baby removed, because the hospital were already concerned that I'd been carrying it dead for 3 weeks already, and so infection was a probability. I also learned at this point about another strange phenomenon that can happen as a result of missed miscarriage, and that is calcified babies! Yep! If the baby stays inside, the body can eventually roll the baby around and turn it into a calcified lump, something similar to how gallstones form from small deposits that build up. Isn't that just crazy sounding? 😳 It's pretty rare, however, far MORE common than you would have thought, if you even knew about it in the first place. Obviously it's more common in poorer countries with less access to healthcare. I read about one lady in India, I believe she was 70 if I'm not wrong? She'd been pregnant at least 40 years prior, and had known her baby had died. She was further along in her pregnancy and the baby stopped moving. She told her husband she'd lost the baby, but that was a lie. She felt exactly like I did emotionally, that if her child had wanted to leave her, it would have done so on it's own. So she told no one so her baby could stay with her. Over the years she wore baggier clothes to hide the belly that was NOT going flatter, despite apparently losing a pregnancy. In fact over her later years her belly began to grow as more and more calcified material clung onto the already sizeable "stone". I think her family presumed the lump was some type of stomach tumour or gastric swelling, and she allowed them to continue thinking that. They very rarely saw doctors anyway. It was only when her son, found her crippled over with pain when she was in her 70's, that he took her to the hospital and paid for it for her. And that's when her secret was removed and she could no longer deny the truth. Think how many women, who are pregnant one minute, and then they are not, yet there was no foetus expelled from her body.....for instance a talk show guest. How many of us have muttered disgust at that woman on the TV, automatically presuming she'd lied about being pregnant in the first place!? I know I have. Missed miscarriages are not well known about, not even to women, who like myself, had experienced "normal miscarriages" prior to that one. So I'd just like to thank you for highlighting that they are a thing. Most miscarriages are unpleasant, but there's an extra emotional torment attached to missed miscarriage. As demonstrated by the Indian lady I mentioned, and many others like her, who are in denial of "losing" their baby. It's not lost, they still have it, all to themselves. Our brains are fascinating in the way they switch logic around to help us cope with life's difficult circumstances. Lots of love to all Mothers who have lost babies, are unable to bear babies, or indeed have lost living children too as I have - my next pregnancy the following year I gave birth to a beautiful baby boy, but he died unexpectedly aged 5½ years, from chickenpox. 😢 In fact lots of love to all Mothers, dealing with children with medical issues, or just dealing with children at all! I think we've all had at least one moment where we ask ourselves why we ever bloody had kids in the first place...in fact if you've only had one such moment, do you know how lucky you are? 🤣 My daughter when she was a teenager, I wouldn't wish those years on Hitler! 😮 Children eh? They certainly give our hearts a workout that's for sure! Good or bad, happy or sad. ❤❤❤❤❤
@Sienna6164
@Sienna6164 3 месяца назад
I’m so sorry for your losses. I hope you and your family are doing well. God Bless and love from California
@tamielizabethallaway2413
@tamielizabethallaway2413 3 месяца назад
@@Sienna6164 oh thank you Sienna. It's just me now I'm afraid, I split with my husband two years ago so I now live alone. I'm doing ok, not fantastic but not too bad either. I'm guessing it's around tea time there? Around 6pm ish? (It's 2.15am here) Enjoy the rest of your evening. Love from South East, England. xxxxx
@Sienna6164
@Sienna6164 3 месяца назад
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 I wouldn’t know. We don’t really have tea time in the U.S.
@tamielizabethallaway2413
@tamielizabethallaway2413 3 месяца назад
@@Sienna6164 oh I meant dinner time...we call it dinner or tea..
@Sienna6164
@Sienna6164 3 месяца назад
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 It’s ok. Also, you were an hour off. It would be around 7 PM here in California at 2:15 according to my calculations. But pretty close
@RTCPhotoWork
@RTCPhotoWork 2 года назад
When considering the pseudocyesis (as a psychological) theory, keep in mind they didn't have much context for things like PCOS or uterine fibroids. Both can cause very irregular menstrual cycles (putting them anywhere from a week late to no cycle for half a year) and even bloating to the degree it looks like pregnancy. Upon a palpating exam by the doctors, uterine fibroids could have mislead them to believe it was a pregnancy. If she wasn't pregnant and didn't experience a loss that was kept quiet, she could have experienced one of those two conditions. They, along with endometriosis, can be passed along as a genetic predisposition. Each of these conditions make it more difficult to conceive as well. Some food for thought.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Excellent points. Thank you for sharing :-)
@prarieborn6458
@prarieborn6458 2 года назад
Medical knowlege sbout female repriduction was sketchy in medieval times. I have seen a medical drawing of what was itheorized as the cause of “hysteria” in women You see, the uterus in latin i” hysterus” was believed to migrate around inside., when it was in the head region it caused hyterical moods snd behaviors. Those men were on to something!! lol. Physicians were astrologers and made disgnoses from the astrological chart, and external observation of a fully clothed woman patient. It was strictly forbidden to dissect a female deceased. Women’s bodies were sacred and mysterious. Midwives attended chilbirth, a physician , always a man, may be consulted, but could not do an internal exam. Forceps, if they had any , were keot totally secret as it was a death penalty to relieve suffering in childbirth, as it was considered God’s curse on Eve’s descendants to bring forth children in sorrow and suffering. Caesarion section was only done on a dead mother to save the baby, even then, it was done by a local butcher, Maybe I have read too many historical novels, but I read that it was believed that Queen Jane, in her agony of days long labor, begged for her side to be cut open with a sharp sword to get the child out. After her death there were ballads sung in the taverns about it, probably inspired by gossip from the palace. And there was a Princess Royal in the 1800’s , not sure of the time period, and can’t recall her name, but she was the Princess Diana of her time, the darling of England. . She died young and tragically after a very very prolonged labor of her first child, The doctor was an arrogant and ttitled aristocrat and refused all pleas from the midwives to intervene. The baby’s head could be seen, but he sat and playred cards and drank brandy, all night and the baby was born dead. The Princess died shortly after of seizures and then a stroke. Forceps and episotomy could have deliverd her hours sooner, as they were available then..but he was close to the throne, socially and nobody dared speak against him. The whole nstion was in deep shock snd mourning. There was a poignant classical musical piece composed for her. something titled like “ Requiem for a Dead Princess….it is a beautiful and haunting melody…I found this account on a blog about medical practice, somewhere, years sgo.
@prarieborn6458
@prarieborn6458 2 года назад
edit: Please forgive the typos here, my new ipad has a very sensitive keyboard and unless I touch a key in exact enter, it prints an adjacent letter.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 2 года назад
it's probably oestrogen dominance in the absence of progesterone those conditions are also caused by it, excess oestrogen is inflammatory
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 2 года назад
@@prarieborn6458 specula were invented to be torturous to women and tested on slaves, in studies they're still not actually cleaned, just heated in an autoclave, the diseases on them are still present
@gonefishing167
@gonefishing167 2 года назад
Thank you for a thought provoking video. To me, I would say that she was actually pregnant. She certainly seemed to have no troubles conceiving. Only an idea but, perhaps of Catherine of Aragon’s so many miscarriages and stillbirths ( poor woman) , Henry didn’t want to advertise the similarities. No matter ones opinion of Anne, to have a miscarriage ( of a son) in January and to be executed by may, seems very cruel. Sort of “ out with the old and in with the new’ type of scenario. Anne doesn’t seem to be the personality to have a psuedo pregnancy. How sad and traumatic for any woman who has this condition. The pressure these poor queens must have been under to produce a boy. One hopes that when these men finally met their Maker it was clearly pointed out “ it was your fault boyo”. Thank you 👵👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, I think she was pregnant too and neither she nor Henry wanted to make a big deal out of a miscarriage, given the disappointment and heartache. I'm sure Henry did have flashbacks to what had happened with Catherine too. It never seems to have occurred to him that he might be the issue though. I'll do a video at some point on the Tudors' fertility issues and get into this topic in more detail then.
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
I absolutely agree with what you said!! I do not think that Anne had the personality to have a phantom pregnancy, I do believe it was genuine but for some reason and miscarriage was not reported? And I have always wondered myself why in the world he had her executed Just 4 months after miscarrying a boy!!! If only that child would have survived!!
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I agree with that also and I would love to see the videos that you are speaking of!!🤗🤗
@LordofFullmetal
@LordofFullmetal 2 года назад
Also worth noting that if ALL the queens he was with kept having miscarriage after miscarriage after miscarriage, that could reflect poorly on him. People might start to question whether he actually God's appointed ruler or not - after all, if he was appointed by God himself, would God not give him a son?
@JessieCochran37
@JessieCochran37 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I agree, now with having heard all the primary and secondary sources from your video, I definitely believe Anne had been pregnant in 1534. That time in her life and that heartache of a miscarriage just makes me so sad and sympathetic for her even more. I just want to wrap her in my arms. Her, and all the wives, to be honest! Henry VIII was not a good man, nor a good father. As the saying goes, "Any man can be a father, but it takes someone special to be a dad" (to raise a child, not just contribute sperm for their existence).
@Meine.Postma
@Meine.Postma 2 года назад
Anne Boleyn, my favorite English Queen has gotten a bad rep. We see history through her enemies. She was smart and she was a victim of her greedy family and Henry VIII. It shows how smart she was that she converted Henry to protestant (good!) and kept him occupied for so many years. How would things have gone if only she had given the monster a son.
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
I could not agree more with you and the son that she miscarried would have changed absolutely everything I believe had he been delivered.
@ButtonsCasey
@ButtonsCasey 2 года назад
Let's face it. Anne Boleyn was stalked, and forced into a relationship by men. No wonder she became bitchy later.
@rebecca9608
@rebecca9608 2 года назад
Phillipa Gregory’s book ‘The Boleyn King’ is a really interesting read on what might have happened if Anne had a son as well as Elizabeth
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
@@rebecca9608 thanks for posting that... definitely going to get it and give it a read!!🤗🤗
@LilyGarden528
@LilyGarden528 2 года назад
@@rebecca9608 The "Boleyn King" by Laura Andersen is another good option for a what if about Anne and Henry's lost son.
@Beth20043
@Beth20043 2 года назад
In "the other Boleyn girl", they made it out that she miscarried in the middle of the night and was too scared to tell Henry, so she told someone to "either bury it or put it on the fire"
@lemongrabloids3103
@lemongrabloids3103 16 дней назад
“The other Boleyn Girl” is a work of fiction
@sabrinastratton1991
@sabrinastratton1991 2 года назад
Considering who she was married to I think perhaps she miscarried but kept it quiet. Catherine had multiple miscarriages and one living child, Mary. Anne had maybe four pregnancies and one living child, Elizabeth. Jane had one child, Edward and we will never know if she would’ve continually lost pregnancies (maybe if she had the court would’ve looked at Henry as the one at fault). Anne of Cleves remained a virgin, Katherine Howard, despite her young age and probable fertility, never did conceive by Henry. I still think Henry’s side of genetics were at fault but without modern DNA testing or prenatal care (including aminocentices) we will never know
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I'm planning a video on the Tudors' fertility issues actually. That's what I'd initially intended to do with this video, then once I started reading about the supposed pseudo pregnancy, I thought it might be a good idea to do this first, as a kind of prequel.
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling Will you be mentioning Elizabeth's gynecological controversies?
@sabrinastratton1991
@sabrinastratton1991 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling that at sounds awesome!!
@itzyarin4713
@itzyarin4713 2 года назад
I think the issue was on his father's side (notice how he was an only child), yet on his mothers side the women were all very fertile, his grandmother and great-grandmother had many kids
@scotsquine7792
@scotsquine7792 2 года назад
The tragedy is that Catherine did give birth to a live son, Prince Henry, Duke of Cornwall to great rejoicing. He died before he was two months old in the winter of 1511. What these poor women had to deal with...pressure to produce an heir, lying in, loss, grief & the terrifying prospect of childbirth in the 16th Century.
@justineharper3346
@justineharper3346 2 года назад
I just want to throw out there that “phantom kicks” are insane and can feel very real. I had them all the time for a couple years after I had my first, and quite often would get paranoid that I was pregnant again. Thankfully modern medicine exists, and I was able to tell that there wasn’t any baby in there. Lol Edit: I think she was really pregnant though
@bridgetthewench
@bridgetthewench 2 года назад
I've had something similar a couple times before despite never having been pregnant, while dealing with a nasty endometriosis flare-up. I could see my belly moving and joked that an alien was about to burst out of my body.
@SarahBent
@SarahBent 2 года назад
I've had 3 real children and still every now and then think that something feels like a kick.
@burgundybabyy
@burgundybabyy 2 года назад
I think it was real. Miscarriages were very common among Henry's wives because of the pressure they felt to produce a son, and also the times.
@annjohnson6193
@annjohnson6193 2 года назад
A baby girl equaled to no baby.
@Moebian73
@Moebian73 2 года назад
First word I saw was phantom, said to myself "Elizabethan ghost stories!" then I read "pregnancy" then I said "oooooo a ghostly knock upward", still cool. Nice video. :)
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Haha, well maybe there'll be something phantom related for Halloween, though I already have a witchy tale in mind for it (I might do two Halloween themed videos though - I'll see).
@Moebian73
@Moebian73 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I live approx 15 minutes from Salem, MA, OMG what those accused & executed went through in the 1600s. :(
@Leeza3370
@Leeza3370 2 года назад
@@Moebian73 I also live 20 minutes from Salem 😊
@Moebian73
@Moebian73 2 года назад
@@Leeza3370 small world. lol Ever been to Salem & bring back something you didn't want to bring back? I don't know if this is true, but someone did visit Salem, MA & after returning, knocks started sounding off & weird things started to happen. I wonder if that happens to people when they visit the Tower Of London. Many parished there too.
@Leeza3370
@Leeza3370 2 года назад
@@Moebian73 I actually hang out in Salem, a lot of my friends are in the arts or are musicians. I have not brought had that experience but I do believe that someone could. I don't know what I would do if I did lol
@nancycastle9124
@nancycastle9124 2 года назад
Anne Boleyn's history is a very sad one. She was a victim from the beginning of her own ambitions and of the court of King Henry VIII. I do believe she was pregnant, and I believe it was a very agonizing situation due to the pressure to produce an heir. It is one of the many sad stories of the British monarchy.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Agreed. Her story wouldn't be out of place in a Greek tragedy.
@gothempress
@gothempress 2 года назад
I love your narrative voice. You're very expressive, and so it is engaging to listen to you speak. You don't sound stiff like you're reading from a script. Your cadence is close to conversational, and you use a wide variety of tonal inflection. All of these add together to create an interesting and lively listening experience. Subbed.
@csh43166
@csh43166 2 года назад
I have only ever been mildly interested in this era of British history because my main interest is ancient history, but I am fascinated by your videos on the topic! You're a wonderful story teller!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you so much and by-the-by, if ancient history is your thing then I think/hope you'll enjoy next week's offering :-)
@MountainPearls
@MountainPearls 2 года назад
You should study it! It’s so nuts and bizarre!
@KO-ov6kg
@KO-ov6kg 2 года назад
It would be interesting to know what her general health was like after the birth of Elizabeth. I have read her mother was at court for the birth and remained for quite some time after. Missing periods is the usual mark of being pregnant, but I read that she ate very little trying to lose her baby weight so that Henry would return to her bed, as she had become aware of him taking a mistress during her pregnancy. Under eating is not conducive to getting pregnant, but she would have gathered all the information available about procreation to make her chances of getting pregnant (knowing when she was likely to ovulate) would have been known to her. Her sister Mary, who knew Henry very well and had had two children already would have been a good source of advice for her. If she miscarried, she would have been unavailble for sex for at least a short period of time, so looking at Henry's mistress activity might shed some light on that.
@ladyroxanne21
@ladyroxanne21 2 года назад
I would like to put forth an alternative option, which I cannot prove, but since it happened to me, I think it could be a possibility. There is a type of pregnancy called a Blighted Ovum in which the body does actually go through potentially the entire pregnancy - and even labor - except there's no baby. I understand this to be different from a phantom pregnancy in that a phantom pregnancy has no actual growing of a gestational sac in the uterus and that all the symptoms (including weight gain and a rounded belly) are simply the body convincing itself that its pregnant. With a Blighted Ovum, the body actually is pregnant, except there's no baby. So basically, when I had it, I went through the first trimester having a positive pregnancy test and all the symptoms, but something felt off. At some point, in the beginning of the second trimester, I decided to go in and see what was going on and an ultrasound was done which confirmed that there was no baby in the womb. I was told that my body might eventually go through a miscarriage, or it might wait the entire 9 months and then go through labor. I was given medication to take to trigger the 'miscarriage' but because I was in the process of moving, I didn't have time. I waited a little over a month to finish up our move and get settled in, and then took the meds. It brought on the miscarriage, and that was as painful and laborious as the previous miscarriages I'd had - which were almost equal to the two actual labors I'd had with my sons. It included water breaking and passing of an approximately 4 month along gestational sac. So, my point is that she could have had what everyone thought was a real pregnancy because it more or less is real, until she was far enough along that it became obvious that there was no baby inside - nothing inside the womb to feel when palpated and no kicks, etc. At that point, when she miscarried, there would have been nothing but the gestational sac to come out, and so - to me - that actually explains why/how she would have had a real pregnancy but no one ever talked about her having a miscarriage or even what gender the baby was - since she would have been far enough along for a gender to be determined. Shrugs. Just my two cents. :-)
@Beth20043
@Beth20043 2 года назад
Wow, that probably is what happened. Sorry to hear you had to go through that.
@annbaker3142
@annbaker3142 2 года назад
I agree with you. I think she must have had a miscarriage. And it was covered up. It must have been so sad for her. Knowing how Henry was he didn't want his abilities to be in question!!!!! Thank you for a great video again!! X
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, I don't think Henry would have wanted a big deal to be made of another lost child as well, especially if it was a boy, which they would have known given how far along she must have been. Thanks for watching :-)
@csh43166
@csh43166 2 года назад
These were my first thoughts, too...
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 2 года назад
@@csh43166 And mine.
@MissHeird
@MissHeird 2 года назад
I wonder sometimes with Henry's extreme obsession to have a legitimate male heir, if he didn't suffer with "false pregnancies." 😂😂
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Hi Miss Heird. I've heard of men having sympathetic labours when their partners are giving birth, but I don't think Henry was ever that sympathetic to any woman in his life, never mind a whole sympathetic pregnancy (though it would be one way to explain the massive weight gain in later life) :-) Definitely a very self-centred person.
@MissHeird
@MissHeird 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling Agreed.
@marieciaburri4057
@marieciaburri4057 2 года назад
Well said..so nice to talk w people who are history buffs
@suemealor3180
@suemealor3180 2 года назад
I read an interesting article suggesting that Anne was Rhesus negative and this was suggested as the reason for her several miscarriages after giving birth to Elizabeth. Obviously in those days there wasn’t an Anti D injection to protect any future pregnancies
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, I've read that too. I'd actually initially planned to do a video about the Tudors' supposed fertility issues (I still will), but as I started researching that, I was reading about Anne's 1534 pregnancy and thought this would make a good prequel video, so here we are! :-)
@jessicaclark5219
@jessicaclark5219 2 года назад
I am rh negative and I can attest to having issues staying pregnant after my first child was born. In one year I was pregnant 4 times. And I managed to get pregnant after the last miscarriage 5 weeks after the loss. She decided to stick because I got the shot for my blood type.
@wednesdayschild3627
@wednesdayschild3627 2 года назад
I don't think she was rh negative. Catherine of Aragon followed the same pattern. I think they did not wait long enough after a first pregnancy and birth to try again. , Queens did not breast feed. It is best to breast feed baby and wait 2 to 3 years between pregnancy and birth. I am rh negative and my mom was too. Neither of us ever had a miscarriage.
@peachygal4153
@peachygal4153 2 года назад
@@jessicaclark5219 If you had a miscarriage without getting the shot, your body already made the antibodies and any further RH positive child would be in danger. That is why your GYN stresses you have to have the shot, even if you miscarry to protect future children. My doctor had me take it twice with each pregnancy, at 20 weeks, and again after birth. I only got out of when I had a RH negative baby.
@peachygal4153
@peachygal4153 2 года назад
@@wednesdayschild3627 she could have been. Queen Mary Tudor could have been RH negative which is why she survived.
@ambermyers1330
@ambermyers1330 2 года назад
I’ve been an “Anne Fan’’ since I was 10 and I have to say I really love your videos! I’ve read most books on her, including the Eric Ives excellent Biography, so this is a very “done” subject for me. But I always find your videos fresh and very interesting! So thank you for all of the time and effort you put into them. Keep up the great work! 🙏🏻
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thanks Amber. Yes, she is very overdone I agree. It's tricky actually to find fresh (or even just freshish) ways to look at any of the wives, but people love them so much that they drive a lot of the growth on the channel and so I do my best to do videos on them and attempt not to overlap too much with what's already out there. I did a whole series on the Tudor monarchs thinking they'd be as popular as the wives, but nope! It's very specifically the wives.
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 2 года назад
I have been a big Anne fan, too since I was young. I've read 📚 just about everything on her there is. So I do enjoy these videos 📹.
@JessieCochran37
@JessieCochran37 2 года назад
I have just recently found your channel in the last week, and have binge-watched so many of your Tudor series videos! They're so good!! I love to see all the many sources (primary and secondary) at the end of your videos. As an amateur historian-haven't published anything, with only a Bachelor of Sciences in History and a year's experience in a university's small Archives & Area Research Center-I love all aspects of history and histology, and add as much of it as I can to my fanfiction, fantasy, and historical fiction stories. Finding your channel and engaging in these discussions and replying to other commenters has been so refreshing and down right fun for me. Thank you so much!! I would love to have more in-depth discussions with you about all things history. Can't wait for your next upload.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you so much Jessie. I should say that the sources at the end are only for images though.
@laurae.1298
@laurae.1298 2 года назад
I am continually so impressed with the quality of these videos. Thank you for your hard work. I look forward to them every week. Another book on Henry VIII's wives that was quite good and provided a different perspective was "Divorced, Beheaded, Survived: A Feminist Reinterpretation Of The Wives Of Henry VIII" by Karen Lindsay. It is a nice counterbalance to consider against the more common messages we hear about the women.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you so much for such a kind comment. I'm really glad you like the videos. I'm not familiar with that book, but I'll Google it.
@kareneaker6304
@kareneaker6304 2 года назад
My mother lost a unborn son at 5 months into pregnancy. She had a rare medical condition where her uterus had three compartments. I was first born and carried in the largest of the compartments. My 'brother' carried in the second largest died in utero , but was never delivered. My sister was carried in the smallest and last compartment and was very premature with low birth weight. After my sister's birth, my mother had a complete hysterectomy and the evidence of the male fetus was discovered. My mother was told that this was a rare event and she donated her uterus to Tulane University's medical collection in New Orleans, Louisiana. This scenario would fit perfectly with the accounts of Anne's pregnancy.
@loretta_3843
@loretta_3843 2 года назад
It's quite something how many times Anne became pregnant in such a short time.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I know. Three conceptions in about 4 years and one of them only a few months after the birth of Elizabeth. I would imagine it was quite physically exhausting at times.
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling And yet he still had her beheaded!!! She clearly showed that she was fertile and could deliver a healthy child! If only she was given a little bit of more time!!
@marieciaburri4057
@marieciaburri4057 2 года назад
No wonder why the mortality rate was so high among women. Especially royals. Childbirth was practically a ticket to the otherwise. Poor Anne and her long suffering uterus..
@MissGlassButterfly
@MissGlassButterfly 2 года назад
Id they’d have given it a minute, since she was so fertile, probably would have easily had another baby. Womb had no chance.
@astrothsknot
@astrothsknot 2 года назад
it's hard to think that Henry was a reasonable king and person until the last eleven years of his life and then he's just lost his mind. You don't realise that all those wives took place in a just over a decade.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I know. He was married to Catherine for longer than all the rest put together but as you say, I think people often forget how compressed the other 5 marriages were. It must have been a bizarre time to be at the court, when you couldn't be sure who would be the Queen consort the following year, how her predecessor might have died or how long she might last.
@astrothsknot
@astrothsknot 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I'd be making sure my daughters weren't Ladies in Waiting to the last Queen, because he seemed to use that as a recruiting pool. They'd be getting punted off to Russia.
@here_we_go_again2571
@here_we_go_again2571 2 года назад
@@astrothsknot Russian (and every other royal family) princes preyed on ladies in waiting.
@Erika-xm2mi
@Erika-xm2mi 2 года назад
And then it's actually debatable whether he just "lost his mind" or it was the cause of a jousting accident. According to writings, he fell off his horse and was unconscious for a very long time before he came to. Other sources also mention and hint his personality shifting and doing a whole 180 to where he became mean and angry for no reason whereas he used to be quite a pleasant person to be around before that. It's quite interesting to imagine what Henry's life and that of his poor wives would have turned out like had he not had that accident.
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling Or who to align yourself to...
@elizabethspedding1975
@elizabethspedding1975 2 года назад
Poor lady was so desperate for a son, who knows what effect this had on her health.🌹
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I know. Her mental health would surely have suffered if nothing else.
@miskay3416
@miskay3416 2 года назад
always so well researched and well presented :)
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you! :-)
@beretta92x93
@beretta92x93 2 года назад
Truly appreciate the time and effort you put in to your presentation of the topics you present to all of your subscribers. So professional and factually accurate. You work is very appreciated and always look forward to more content.
@gerdabourke359
@gerdabourke359 2 года назад
The 0 negative theory seems to fit. I was also able to have that injection after the birth of my daughter. This was to protect any future pregnancies. But as now I know the sex of the child is determined by the male. I feel for those poor ladies who are blamed for not producing a son
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
My pleasure! Thank you for watching and commenting :-)
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I know. No doubt Henry would have been horrified if he'd realised that his daughters were his 'fault' (which I put in inverted commas because this was obviously beyond his control).
@susannahdyro9518
@susannahdyro9518 Год назад
I love your channel. I learn so much 😃
@stephencarrillo5905
@stephencarrillo5905 2 года назад
Another fine video. My week is now complete! I love Egyptian history and am eagerly looking forward to that. Can hardly wait for the Halloween video and I hope you do more than one. Be well.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thanks Stephen. Til next week! :-)
@lancedorey2774
@lancedorey2774 2 года назад
Beautifully presented,you are so engaging and captivating i feel so happy to have found you as you have reacquainted me with my love and fascination of historical episodes i have long neglected,thank you
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you so much. That's really lovely to read. :-)
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 2 года назад
I thank you for another incredible video!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
My pleasure! :-)
@SophieLovesSunsets
@SophieLovesSunsets 2 года назад
I'm so glad I just discovered this channel. Fascinating topics and great videos :) I agree with a comment that has already been made here, I think we should always keep in mind that people in those days were unaware of medical conditions such as endometriosis and PCOS. I have endometriosis and many of the symptoms are more commonly associated with pregnancy, such as morning sickness, irregular periods, pain in the lower tummy and back, etc. Women back then really didn't know what was going on with their bodies.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Hi Sophie. I'm glad you like the video and the channel. Welcome :-)
@B.S1984
@B.S1984 2 года назад
Absolutely love this channel. ❤️
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you so much :-)
@gerrylbucci292
@gerrylbucci292 2 года назад
Thank you for your excellent videos & so kind of you to reply to comments ⭐️💖👍🏼
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
No problem at all. I'm glad you like them :-)
@michellebruce5092
@michellebruce5092 2 года назад
Great video I enjoyed it can't can't can't see more tomorrow soon. Your videos are great history. 👍
@AWindy94
@AWindy94 2 года назад
This is slowly becoming one of my favorite history channels on RU-vid ✌️❤️ Also just wanted to add that I find your voice absolutely soothing 😊
@JessieCochran37
@JessieCochran37 2 года назад
Yes, this is also quickly becoming my favorite History channel on RU-vid. I also just really enjoy all of Tracy Borman's, Lucy Worsley's, Suzanne Lipscomb's, and Kate William's documentaries. I hope to be as good a historian as they are some day! I've already started, with a Bachelor of Sciences in History, interviewing at my state's historical society as well as volunteering, and visiting all the sites I can within the metro area. I specialized in Medieval and American Histories at University, so I love the Tudor and Renaissance eras.
@alisonridout
@alisonridout 2 года назад
This was really interesting. Thank you
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
My pleasure :-)
@peachygal4153
@peachygal4153 2 года назад
This is my guess, she got pregnant within 6 weeks of Elizabeth's birth, had a miscarriage. early in 1534, and was pregnant again in 1534 which is why the Spanish ambassador thought the child would be born later. Some historians believe she had at least 4 miscarriages after Elizabeth which was why (although still evil) why Henry was ready to have her executed after her last.
@karawilliamson106
@karawilliamson106 2 года назад
I agree with you… it was a real pregnancy that she lost… was kept quiet so it wouldn’t be used against her… Queen Victoria sucked me into the interesting world of the English monarchy…. I loved learning about Anne Boleyn and the complex relationship with her sister Mary… but the more I learn… the more I don’t like and the more I want to learn about the RIGHTFUL QUEEN 👑 Queen Katherine of Aragon… She was a true and worthy Queen… and Henry did not deserve her… and we would NEVER have had a Bloody Mary had Henry done right by his rightful and legitimate family.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, Anne is a controversial figure and it's undeniable that she did a lot of horrible things, in particular to Princess Mary. I think she had many fine qualities too (especially her intelligence and bravery) and don't believe she deserved what she got, but I can't see myself being friends with her if I was able to hop in a time machine and go back to Tudor England. I always think that out of Henry's wives, I'd get along best with Catherine Parr.
@karawilliamson106
@karawilliamson106 2 года назад
Ah yes! But I believe she used her intellect to manipulate others, which led to her demise!
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx 2 года назад
i cant wait to hear your take on this, something i’ve always wondered about!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you. I hope you enjoy it :-)
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling wonderful as always! i love love love your videos!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you :-)
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563 2 года назад
Yes, she had 4 pregnancies. Elizabeth, one premature stillbirth & 2 miscarriages. Stepdaughter Mary had 2 phantom pregnancies.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
For the reasons I mentioned in the video, I'm not so sure about it being four rather than three pregnancies (though I understand where you're coming from), but I agree Mary thought she was pregnant twice, though the second time, when she was dying I don't think many besides her were fooled, unlike the first time.
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I know. Philip just left for Spain the 2nd time.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, I don't think he was too concerned with her once he realised he couldn't get a child by her. I think he said he felt something like 'moderate regret' when he was told she was dead. Not exactly a Prince Charming, but I guess that's an arranged royal marriage in the 16th century for you.
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling She was his 2nd wife of 4! Son Philip was born from 4th.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, like Henry VIII's spouses, Philip's wives didn't fair too well.
@moominesque6081
@moominesque6081 2 года назад
It's not a pseudo pregnancy, it's a missed miscarriage. The pregnancy ends, but a miscarriage doesn't happen - the foetus and tissue is absorbed into the body. There is an infection risk, therefore today, a procedure to remove any tissue remaining in the uterus would be performed. The 'd' you refer to with regard to the cost of the cradle is said as pence - i.e. 4 pounds, three shillings and six pence.
@Lulu-ut9pv
@Lulu-ut9pv 2 года назад
It's was more common than people think Mary 1st could be diagnosed the same, my friend from childhood was diagnosed few years ago, her and her husband been trying for 8 years and she thought she was genuinely pregnant, it was concluded she miscarried (which again is more.common than people think) but her body continued and even went into labour, It was a hard day for her to be told there's no baby
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
That's very sad about your friend. Yes, I agree miscarriages are much more common that I think a lot of people realise. I remember reading a figure of about 25% though I can't comment on how accurate that is given that I can't remember the source.
@Lulu-ut9pv
@Lulu-ut9pv 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling thank you, even though she says she's over it, it just sticks with her but she's good good support, and your right it varies from 22%-30% chance in miscarriage as factors such as frist pregnancy, diet, health and genetics play a part. I wasn't aware untill my friend told me and the doctors says some women don't even noticed they had a miscarriage
@Erika-xm2mi
@Erika-xm2mi 2 года назад
Probably one of the most ironic things is that while Henry was obsessed with having a male heir, it was his *daughter* Elizabeth who actually went on to become one of the greatest monarchs in British history.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I know. I often wonder how he'd react if he knew.
@Erika-xm2mi
@Erika-xm2mi 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling Your response actually intrigued me so much that I went to search for other opinions and answers. From what I've seen, most people agreed that while Henry would have been proud of Elizabeth for becoming the strong monarch that she was and standing her ground, he would have also been furious that she produced no heir and thus allowed not only the Tudor dynasty to die out very young, but implicitly gave way for the enemy, the Stuarts, to claim the throne and rule the country. Taken how obsessed he was with continuing the Tudor bloodline, I'd say that could be accurate.
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 11 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@cmcg9035
@cmcg9035 2 года назад
There's anecdotal evidence that Mary I had ovarian or uterine cysts or tumors, and that she probably died from ovarian or uterine cancer. Cysts can become large enough to cause the swelling of the abdomen. If the intestines are near the cyst, then material moving inside the intestines can give the feeling of a baby moving within the womb. These cysts can suddenly burst or decrease in size over time. There would not have been knowledge of these cysts as a diagnosis. And doctors were not permitted to examine the body of a monarch. In modern times, they are surgically removed if large, painful, troublesome, or they don't go away in a reasonable amount of time. Pretty sick of the myth of Mary I (and others) as an irrational female who imagined wished-for pregnancies.
@januarya5635
@januarya5635 2 года назад
Topic request: given your research into all things Tudor, I'd love to hear your take on Henry VIII's relationship with Mary Boleyn, and whether he was the father of one or more of her children.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Oh, that's a good idea. I don't think there's much info on their relationship unfortunately so I don't know how much I could say, but it might do for a short video at some point. :-)
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 2 года назад
I'd be interested in that, too.
@midnight_rose2337
@midnight_rose2337 2 года назад
I personally think he was the father of Katherine Carey, as Katherine’s daughter Lettice could pass for E1’s twin.
@Atm0111
@Atm0111 2 года назад
Anne Boylen is so interesting, ur vids on her and others really make them come alive for me. Im watching on yt right now a 3pt docu called The Boylen's: A Scandalous Family. So i was excited to see this! Hope u have a good weekend, thank u 🤗
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thanks Anna. I've watched that documentary too. Have you spotted the dress and tiara Anne wears that were also on Natalie Dormer in the Tudors yet? I did an Instagram post on it if you haven't seen it yet.
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
Yes I just watched that series also and it was very well done!! I think I have devoured just about every series like that that has to do with the tutors so when something new comes out I get so excited!!!!😘🤗😘
@Atm0111
@Atm0111 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling im on episode 2 so I'll keep an eye out! I noticed that the costumes on Anne are *really* good! Dont know how accurate they are, but theyre so pretty! I'll look for ur Ig!
@Atm0111
@Atm0111 2 года назад
@@hollyh314i get so excited too! I especially love anything w lucy worsley and tracy borman. Some programs are hard to get in the U.S so im so happy when yt has them 🤗
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
@@Atm0111 absolutely without a doubt!!! I love those two ladies!! In my opinion they have a dream job! I mean their office is inside Hampton Court Palace, what could be better!?!?🤗
@roseg1333
@roseg1333 2 года назад
Maybe she lied? And tried to get pregnant later? And would have said it was premature later. She might have been frightened of what King Henry would have done if she would not have quickly produced a male heir.
@lisabradbury7783
@lisabradbury7783 2 года назад
I think it was a miscarriage. I also think that there is a link between Mary, Catherine, Anne, Elizabeth and Jane Seymour. Is it possible Henry passed a sexually transmitted disease to all of his wives, causing miscarriages, sterility in his children and birth complications that killed Jane. It just seems the only common link in all of this misfortune is Henry. His sons also die early, possibly another link if they were born infected with a disease.
@GirlOfTheTardis
@GirlOfTheTardis 2 года назад
Why am I watching is at 2.30 in the morning
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
There's never a bad time for a history fix :-)
@AndriaBieberDesigns
@AndriaBieberDesigns 2 года назад
No. No she didn’t. I am thinking what Ann’s problem was endometriosis or she had a negative blood type. Some of the issues she’s had I also have had. Sometimes people just have lots of miscarriages and it’s very sad
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, I agree. Some women do tragically just have a difficult time in this area and actually 2 miscarriages in an era before good medical care isn't that uncommon (heck, it's not even super uncommon nowadays, as you mention).
@ladymiaeriksson5809
@ladymiaeriksson5809 2 года назад
Ive had 3 psychosomatic pregnancies. And according to my doctor if you have 1 you are likely to have more. In my case they got worse each time. The first time it lasted 14 weeks, the second time 19 weeks and the last time it lasted 29 weeks. At last one I actually got medical help to end it.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I'm so sorry to hear what you've gone through. I'm glad you were able to get help from your doctor though and I hope you're doing well now.
@shelleydaly1726
@shelleydaly1726 9 месяцев назад
I’m sorry, it must have been very stressful and distressing for you
@kellyb1420
@kellyb1420 Год назад
Wouldn’t surprise me surprise me if people were poisoning Catherine’s babies for miscarriages and it wouldn’t surprise me if Ann B babies were poisoned as well for miscarriages she had a lot of pressure on her to give Henry a son so a pseudo pregnancy isn’t too far-fetched with that amount of pressure on any woman…? 🤷‍♀️
@marinatebbenham4011
@marinatebbenham4011 2 года назад
You have a very lovely voice :)
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you :-)
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 2 года назад
As I often do, I agree with your theory history calling, queen Ann was pregnant, sadly she lost the baby, as for the French ambassador he disliked Ann to put it mildly,thank you as always. 😊👍
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you :-)
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling always a plesure to listen and learn history from you history calling 😊
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I am aware Tudor history is very popular, I'm Hopeing you might do a non Tudor subject next Friday. 😊
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I will indeed. I hope you like ancient Egypt? :-)
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling indeed I do, but I'm happy with whatever subject history matter you decide, till next Friday, enjoy your weekend and stay safe. 😊
@beautyforashes2022
@beautyforashes2022 2 года назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="22">0:22</a> Thats interesting that they say this is portrait of Anne, when she was known for being a dark brunette. Or maybe her hair color wasn't really common knowledge back then.. I assume this was painted posthumously. Also this is really interesting, this is the first time I've heard of this supposed phantom pregnancy. Of course I do remember Mary 1 well documented phantom pregnancy, but never for Anne, which makes it so fascinating. Thank you for the excellent video and research.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
You're welcome. Yes, there aren't any contemporary portraits of her sadly, just a portrait medal and a couple of copies of lost originals.
@beautyforashes2022
@beautyforashes2022 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling Its just interesting. That's the first time I've seen that particular portrait of her and the first time I've seen her depicted with red hair, and still pretty as always.
@maryellenthompson8261
@maryellenthompson8261 2 года назад
@@beautyforashes2022 I’ve heard several times that, in order to produce a red headed baby, there have to be genes for red hair from both the mother and father. Since Elizabeth was a red head, it’s feasible that Ann’s at least contained some red.
@jamesaron1967
@jamesaron1967 2 года назад
@@maryellenthompson8261 Yes, she must have carried the recessive gene for red hair, which a lot of people do even if it doesn't show in their hair color.
@Bughotwheels
@Bughotwheels 2 года назад
Love your shows the Tudor's 1 my favorite families :) loved queen Elizabeth I stories also Queen Victoria's family how Queen Elizabeth II is related :)
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you :-)
@mangot589
@mangot589 2 года назад
Just goes to show. These poor Tudor women were so desperate to get pregnant. What, CoA, Mary I, and it wouldn’t surprise one bit if Anne had one also.
@beth7935
@beth7935 2 года назад
Brilliant! I knew very little about Anne's 2nd pregnancy, & I certainly didn't know there was so much evidence for it- thankyou for enlightening me! It does sound like a miscarriage, for all the reasons you said, & pseudocyesis is just soooo rare- it's surprising enough that it happened to Mary I. However exciting & interesting these theories are, commonest things are commonest, & even today, miscarriages are sadly still quite common, it's just people rarely talk about it. A 16thc woman having several miscarriages & stillbirths, but still some healthy births & surviving children, doesn't strike me as anything out of the ordinary, but when you have a track record like poor Queen Anne Stuart, I _do_ think theorising about medical issues is in order.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, it would be quite something if both Henry VIII's daughter and one of his wives had pseudocyesis, but I suppose stranger things had happened. I'm planning a video on the fertility issues (real or not) of Henry and his women (wives and mistresses) for the future, so I'll get into it in more detail there. This is kind of a prequel for that :-) Thanks for watching.
@beth7935
@beth7935 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling Brilliant, I look forward to it!
@sackettfamily4685
@sackettfamily4685 2 года назад
I watched this, kinda hoping for more of an explanation of this. My mom had 2 miscarriages and it's a forbidden topic. The one time I tried to ask about it, my dad shut down the topic and said it was never to be talked about. She briefly mentioned the word chemical pregnancy, right before he interrupted. I do know they had a period of 4 years of trying to conceive. When a fertility doctor was consulted, he dismissed them as young. At that point, within a year or so, their 1st born came.....followed by 11 natural healthy ones. She's talked about being a very nervous person and how dad helped her to calm down. I'm an adult now and not the greatest relationship with either of them, but still wonder.
@Goodiesfanful
@Goodiesfanful 2 года назад
Mary I was famous for phantom pregnancy. To me, it’s not clear if there was one or two. The evidence for the second sounds too sketchy for me to be convinced it was phantom pregnancy. The evidence available for the first sounds sufficient.
@finleykim
@finleykim 2 года назад
I really enjoy your videos - thank you. I wonder, at some point, if it might be worth considering a video about Eustace Chapuys? He seems to have been everywhere at the Tudor court for quite a bit of time and had opinions on everything. I would love to know more about him. And yes, my next move is to look for a book. By the way, I've ordered the Ives book. Is it true that Anne's sister Mary is a direct ancestor of Queen Elizabeth II though her mother?
@beth7935
@beth7935 2 года назад
Yes, Chapuys would be fascinating! I've seen a vid about how Elizabeth II's descended from Mary Boleyn, I forget the title but I think it's on the Anne Boleyn Files channel. Loads of people are descended from Mary through her children Catherine & Henry Carey.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I've thought of Chapuys, but he's tricky as there are no images I can use of him. I'll see if I can find anything else on him though. Yes, I believe Queen Elizabeth I is descended via her mother, Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, from Mary Boleyn.
@katjack2780
@katjack2780 2 года назад
Lauren Mackay has written a book about Chapuys at Henry's court: "Inside the Tudor Court: Henry VIII and his Six Wives through the eyes of the Spanish Ambassador" She's also written "Among the Wolves at Court: The Untold Story of Thomas and George Boleyn" Both are waiting to be read on my bookshelf and are available from Amazon. For good measure, I see she has also published "A Wolf Hall Companion." She is an Australian academic.
@beth7935
@beth7935 2 года назад
@@katjack2780 Oooh, a Aussie! I'm a fan of George Boleyn; I have a brillliant bio of him by Claire Ridgway & Clare Cherry, so I'm tempted by the one on Thomas & George Boleyn! Thanks! :)
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
That's a really good idea and I would love to see something about him because like you said he was just about everywhere and he was very particular with his notations, leaving nothing out!! I think this would be absolutely great to watch!
@HawkqOjOp
@HawkqOjOp 2 года назад
I also agree with your logic. We know Henry & Anne likely would have engaged like rabbits, setting forth tons of possibilities for bunnies lol. We also know that Henry may have been in poorer health starting about that time, and his contribution may have led to more than one miscarriage for Anne. I do find the French Ambassador capable of gossip so not a good source. But of course, none of us were there. I'm grateful for researchers like yourself who consider the facts we have and maybe together, we'll discover new info! Your videos are like Christmas morning!!!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Aww, thank you (and I loved the rabbits references which shouldn't get either of us into trouble with the algorithm!)
@HawkqOjOp
@HawkqOjOp 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling ha ha! Highest respect for your channel! (I bet Henry talked like a trucker sometimes though)
@HawkqOjOp
@HawkqOjOp 2 года назад
p.s. No offense to truckers - they're our economies' lifelines. \o/
@hollyh314
@hollyh314 2 года назад
I so agree with you that these videos are just like Christmas morning to me too!!!🤗
@freedpeeb
@freedpeeb 2 года назад
Fascinating! I cannot imagine what it would be like to be under so much pressure to conceive and produce a son, and to do it all in the public eye, knowing full well your position and life were not secure without it, and that many around you were your mortal enemies. Poor women.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I know. I don't envy her (or any of Henry's wives) a jot.
@magzdilluh
@magzdilluh 2 года назад
Poor Anne deserved better no matter what her pregnancy status.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Absolutely.
@Isabella2335.
@Isabella2335. 2 года назад
I agree you!
@bornagain1589
@bornagain1589 2 года назад
Poor homely woman....
@vi6126
@vi6126 2 года назад
I think she was actually pregnant. The fact that Elizabeth was a girl was not ideal for Anne, but it did prove that she could conceive and have a healthy baby and it was only her first pregnancy. She probably thought that she could go on to have a boy, I don't see her being so desperate that she would experience a phantom pregnancy by that point. Pseudocyesis used to be more common than it is now, but statistically speaking a miscarriage is way more likely.
@ShallowApple22
@ShallowApple22 2 года назад
I believe Anne had Postnatal depression after Elizabeth followed by postnatal pychosis after the 8 month miscarriage.
@Pulchria24
@Pulchria24 2 года назад
The currency was Pounds, Shillings and Pence. So a sum of money would be rendered verbally as 'so many pounds, so many shillings and so many PENCE, not 'd'.
@sapphoculloden5215
@sapphoculloden5215 2 года назад
I'm really interested in the blue over heavily embroidered dress in the first portrait you showed. Can you point me in the direction of the picture?
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Met Museum :-)
@allisonwebb1761
@allisonwebb1761 2 года назад
I think that she was pregnant. But also, my have lost the baby due to stress. Worrying way to much will cause you to stress out. Trust me, I should know. I have really bad anxiety and that causes me to worry way to much, then I start stressing out really bad.
@Kari_B61ex
@Kari_B61ex 2 года назад
Lancelot de Carles wrote of Anne miscarrying a male baby. He wrote a poem stating that Henry's jousting accident, made her collapse and land on her belly which caused her to give birth “avant terme”, prematurely, to “ung beau filz”, a beautiful son, who was born dead. But, he also wrote 'poems' about her numerous affairs.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, that's the 1536 pregnancy. I talk about that miscarriage in my video on whether Henry VIII was brain damaged if you haven't seen it yet. Many thanks for watching :-)
@dewrock2622
@dewrock2622 2 года назад
I don't think she has a pseudo pregnancy.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Me neither. :-)
@theresaschuebel5151
@theresaschuebel5151 2 года назад
That drawing that you showed between queen mary and that of her and her mother is not of Anne, it is of Mary Tudor queen of France
@wellingtonsboots4074
@wellingtonsboots4074 2 года назад
Thank you, another great video. It's interesting I am wondering why i hope Anne was pregnant and lost her baby rather than going through pseudocyesis? Both being such tragic and horrible things to happen. Perhaps it's because of "Bloody Mary" and, Anne Boleyn has to be better than Mary right? I don't know.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I hope that too, possibly because I think miscarriages were understood, but pseudocyesis wasn't and she would have had less sympathy from those around her if it was pseudocyesis and possibly been accused of deliberately inventing the whole thing. You're right though that neither is a good option.
@dianetheisen8664
@dianetheisen8664 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I agree with you 💯.
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563 2 года назад
Read Joanna Denny's Anne Boleyn book! :)
@tracyhodgkins7516
@tracyhodgkins7516 2 года назад
I think Anne was pregnant in 1534. At best I think we can say Chapuys didn't approve of Anne. He never called her anything but 'the concubine'. He'd have had an absolute field day with the idea of Anne having a phantom pregnancy, and I just don't buy that he wouldn't have heard about such a thing, even if he'd found out from a second hand source if he wasn't around at the time. I think it's far more likely than Anne miscarried and it was kept pretty quiet. That earjy in the marriage I just wonder if Henry would have fretted about a miscarriage given that Anne had presented him with a healthy child, albeit a girl. I suspect a miscarriage would have bothered him far more later, when there was no sign of the son he was so desperate for and he was starting to tire of Anne. I think it's pretty likely that Anne was pregnant four times in the course of her marriage. Obviously the timings are debatable, but I think it's likely. She came from fertile stock. Her father stated that his wife, Elizabeth Howard, had given birth every year up until at least 1505, with them having married, according to Alison Weir, between 1495-98, and we know of 5 children from the marriage, Thomas, Henry, Mary, Anne and George. I think it’s quite plausible that Anne was pregnant four times and after Elizabeth she either had miscarriages or stillbirths. The possibility of a miscarriage relatively soon after Elizabeth’s birth might add some fuel to the idea that Anne was Rhesus negative. At least on the face of it, it would follow the pattern of a healthy birth followed by miscarriages or stillbirths that fits with being Rhesus negative. If that’s right, and we obviously will never know, Anne could have got pregnant again, but every time would have ended the same way, miscarriage or stillbirth.
@clare2401
@clare2401 2 года назад
I'm honestly shocked more of Henry's wives didn't have phantom pregnancies due to the amount of pressure on these women
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I know. It's hard to imagine the psychological toll it must have taken on them.
@michaelrobbins6694
@michaelrobbins6694 2 года назад
Rochfort and Champlais were court mechaninists. Also so known as spin doctors of the day... Spelling errors are mine as I didn't look em up.. I do recall the stories from my 1970's studies
@bethanyconboy4481
@bethanyconboy4481 2 года назад
So freaking sad. Watching this while nursing my sweet little one and thanking God I was born in an era of modern medicine
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx 2 года назад
i wonder if it could have been an infection of some kind causing the swelling in her belly? you would think she would be very ill if that were the case or even die from it. puzzling!!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Perhaps. That's what was thought to have caused Catherine's mistaken pregnancy in 1510 and she seemed able to carry on with her day to day life (just as Anne did in 1534). Eventually, the swelling then decreased. It's still hard for me to believe that Anne, having been pregnant so recently, would be easily fooled though, or rather that she could be fooled for so long. It's an intriguing idea though.
@ns-wz1mx
@ns-wz1mx 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling it certainly is!!
@susanohnhaus611
@susanohnhaus611 2 года назад
my cat had several "false pregnancies" They are called pyometra and they get filled with infection which may or may not clear on its own. They can lead to kidney failure.
@ahtijansson9283
@ahtijansson9283 2 года назад
funny enough i have pcos and was having pains in my lower back and stomach and down my leg and 1 really bad period where it went on too long i did get a scan and it was empty. i was also feeling sick at times and hormonal so it was like my body thought i was pregnany but i wasn't. turned out it was either a fantom one or suffering from stress. not that im looking to get pregnant at all. but when it comes down to it our bodies can be so weird.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
They can indeed be weird and I'm sorry to hear about you being unwell. I hope you're all better now.
@bboops23
@bboops23 4 месяца назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="186">3:06</a> I've been showing since 9 weeks but it really popped last week at 13 weeks. But I've got a pretty flat stomach in general
@eloisehellyer6857
@eloisehellyer6857 2 года назад
Didn’t Henry have syphillis which made having more than one healthy baby impossible for almost any woman? I remember reading that it was thought that Edward died of congenital syphillis and his sisters suffered from it also, which made them infertile.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
The theory that he had syphilis is an older (but still very popular) idea that I believe has been mostly discounted by historians and doctors today. I think I'll do a video on it at some point though, as I've received lots of questions about it, especially after my video on whether Henry was brain damaged. I might even fold it into a video on the fertility issues of Henry and his wives and mistresses.
@beckyr9997
@beckyr9997 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I actually saw a documentary (of sorts) several years ago that examined the possibility that Henry experienced, not so much brain damage, but more of a personality change after suffering trauma to the head. If I remember correctly, he was injured in a joust where he fell off his horse and the horse landed on him, rendering him unconscious for several hours. I think I’ve also seen that suggested as being the cause for one of Anne’s miscarriages - that she was so upset about Henry’s injury that she miscarried. Anyway, these guys analyzed whether having such a large animal fall on you and being unconscious for so long could have caused brain injury and led to a personality change, i.e, Henry becoming such a tyrant. They even went so far to find a very large dead pig/sow about the same weight as a horse, hauled it up on a crane and dropped it on a dummy below. Obviously they couldn’t definitively say that this incident caused brain trauma and affected Henry’s personality but it was really interesting nonetheless. What are your thoughts on Henry having suffered brain trauma?
@LordofFullmetal
@LordofFullmetal 2 года назад
@@beckyr9997 That is all literally covered in the video she JUST mentioned. In the comment that you just responded to. Also a "personality change due to brain trauma" is brain damage. Those are not two different things; if you suffer a brain injury and your personality changes as a result, that is because you are brain damaged.
@lagatita1623
@lagatita1623 2 года назад
The cause is probably either one desperately wants to be pregnant...or on the other end, is terrified of it.
@historybuff7491
@historybuff7491 2 года назад
I doubt it was fake. It is strange that no miscarriage is mentioned but as Ann was a health woman, it may have been dismissed as these things happen. It makes sense with Henry's sudden turning on Ann in 1536. After a 2nd miscarriage, this was starting to look like Catherine all over again. Henry wasn't going to wait 20 years again, so got rid of Ann.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, I think miscarriage too and not that uncommon sadly, either then or now. I'm sure Henry wasn't amused by the longish gap between the 1534 pregnancy and the next one in late 1535 either. He might have wondered how long he'd have to wait for her to conceive again.
@ryanwindsor2407
@ryanwindsor2407 2 года назад
Love your history on Anne. Do you think it might be possible than ,Anne, near
@ryanwindsor2407
@ryanwindsor2407 2 года назад
Sorry start over from below. Do you think it might be possible that Anne,especially in the last year of her life,when she must have obviously knew she was in some kind of danger if she didn't produce a son, might have invented false pregnancies,while playing for time in the panic she must have been in?
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Nothing's impossible, but I think that's unlikely. The fact that it wasn't a real pregnancy would have become evident when she didn't miscarry or give birth to the baby and I think this would have weakened her position. Also, her ladies would have known that she hadn't stopped menstruating and likely reported it to the King, Anne's doctors or even just to other courtiers as court gossip.
@JessieCochran37
@JessieCochran37 2 года назад
@@ryanwindsor2407 I definitely thought about it when I first read Philippa Gregory's "The Other Boleyn Girl". But now I believe she had been pregnant. Poor woman, so much heartache!
@andrewberridge6171
@andrewberridge6171 2 года назад
I thought there were some surviving contemporary sketches of Anne Boleyn by Hans Holbein?
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
The sketch you see in this video from the Rijks Museum is one of them, however there's a lot of debate as to whether it's genuine. There are so few images of Anne to work with though, that I've included it anyway, but perhaps I'll do a video on her physical appearance at some point where I look at this drawing and the other supposed images of her in more detail.
@andrewberridge6171
@andrewberridge6171 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling Ah I see! And I think that's a great video idea!
@ferociousgumby
@ferociousgumby 2 года назад
I always find the phrase "fell pregnant" kind of strange. Fell? I also have problems with "she got herself pregnant", which you also hear and which I believe is anatomically impossible. Both phrases seem to cast the woman in a dark, or at least very strange light. It brings to mind "fallen woman" and "fallen flower" and all the other "fallen" phrases of yore, which definitely cast aspersions on a woman's virtue (always connected to virginity).
@ferociousgumby
@ferociousgumby 2 года назад
Oh, and "three months gone" - gone? Also "so far gone with child"? "Far gone" normally means your goose is cooked. I honestly think that these common phrases are loaded with hidden meaning and demonstrates how misogyny is built right into the language.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I must confess I've never thought about the phrases 'fell pregnant' and '3 months gone' as being dodgy, though I agree that 'got herself pregnant' has unpleasant connotations. They're just such commonly used phrases that even women themselves use, that I admit I don't think twice about saying them. It also means I'm not constantly repeating the exact same words and phrases, which would sound a little clunky. Nevertheless, I understand where you're coming from and of course you're absolutely entitled to your own take on it. It's certainly an interesting topic to think about and discussion to have. Many thanks for watching.
@stephanieking4444
@stephanieking4444 2 года назад
We will never know for sure. It could be either: 1 - Anne was pregnant and miscarried during the summer progress, giving the propaganda machine the opportunity to hush down the facts, or 2 - she was so anxious to ''give'' Henry the son he was obsessed with having, that emotional pressure led to a phantom pregnancy, immediately after the disappointing news of her first child having been ''only'' a daughter. If I had to pick one of those two possibilities, I would, like you, conclude that it was number 1, Anne was really pregnant and miscarried.
@acrosticacrosti
@acrosticacrosti 2 года назад
Just to let you know - the "d" is merely an abbreviation (never said) for pence (from denarii).
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
It's ok. I know that, but there's no offence taken. I thought if I said pence when a d was on screen, that I would get questions about that (I even re-recorded to remove me saying pence initially). Also, my parents and other older relatives and friends who were around when pounds, shilling and pence were still in operation often refer to them as d, so I've picked up the habit. I think both were used and are acceptable, so I completely understand where you're coming from.
@acrosticacrosti
@acrosticacrosti 2 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I am so glad my comment did not cause offence. I tried various iterations before posting. I have lived in various countries where pounds, shillings and pence (£sd) were once the currency and I must say I have never known anyone to refer to pennies as "d" - fascinating - presumably a regionalism, or even a family joke. I understand and appreciate your reasoning (although I could wish that perhaps you explain that little piece of history to your younger audience - but presumably you understand them better than a grumpy old man) and hope that you keep up your interesting posts. Best wishes.
@caraelliott9909
@caraelliott9909 2 года назад
I think she had a miscarriage or the baby came way too early and didn't survive, and they wanted to keep it quiet to make it seem like there aren't problems on her or Henry's part, due to the 'the health of the monarch is the health of the realm'
@richardemmaperry899
@richardemmaperry899 2 года назад
Have you heard the theory from the Historian Allison Weir in which she suggested that Anne was RH negative? So after birthing her first baby without problems that she could never birth a living child again due to the complications of the blood? Very interesting theory….
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
I have. I'll do a video at some point on the fertility issues of Henry VIII's women (wives and mistresses all included) and chat about it there. This video is kind of a prequel to that.
@od1452
@od1452 2 года назад
So the medal is the only contemporary portrait of Her?
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yes, the only one to survive. The National Portrait Gallery image and the picture of her at Hever Castle holding the red rose are probably copies of lost originals.
@amanitamuscaria7500
@amanitamuscaria7500 2 месяца назад
these poor women.....the pressure to produce a son. awful.
@shielsann
@shielsann 2 года назад
I know you like accuracy, so please excuse my being pedantic,but the currency should be pronounced shillings and pence(the d)Anyway ,please keep up the good work
@susanohnhaus611
@susanohnhaus611 2 года назад
thank you, that was driving me crazy. Every time I heard it
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Haha, it's ok. I know that, but there's no offence taken. I thought if I said pence when a d was on screen, that I would get questions about that. Also, my parents and other older relatives and friends who were around when pounds, shilling and pence were still in operation often refer to them as d, so I've picked up the habit. I think both were used and are acceptable, so I completely understand where you're coming from.
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