also in the clones wars when they capture obi-wan on geonosis , dooku says what if I told you the republic was now under the control of the dark lord of the sith, so I feel like dooku had to know
Even before that, it's blindingly obvious that he knew. You'd have to be pretty stupid to think there was chance that he didn't, at any stage of his apprenticeship.
I'm also someone who finds him more interesting now that I look at some of the videos about him. he was always part of my least favorite sith and I never really found him that interesting. guess I was wrong...
Yeah, at least he tried to fix what was happening in the Republic. Just so happened that he helped in the worst way possible with the worst person possible.
First thing I checked was if this comment was already posted. +1. I'm pretty sure Anakin would question Dooku, and since Palpatine is still 'locked' in the chair I wonder if he would be forced to kill Anakin and try to convince Obi-Wan that they killed each other. It would also leave Palpatine without a future apprentice that would help lead to the rise of the Empire, and it would be interesting to see whom he would get as a new one/how he would manipulate the Jedi(if he can) seeing the new circumstances.
Another reason why I think the prequels were so cool. If you combine the movies with the Clone Wars as well as the various books and comics, it has a ton of development. The movies just cant hold their own by themselves.
Episode 1 - Ok episode 2 - dog shit Episode 3 - one of the best Rogue One - TBA Episode 4 - Good Episode 5 - The best one Episode 6 - Ok. Episode 7 - a clone of a new hope...
@@jpf7942 I would probably out him as well, but I would be considered a goody two shoes to many. The sith agree to help the sith above themselves, in the hope to be able to some day help build the sith empire. Palpatine actually broke this rule.
I can speculate that if Anakin spared Dooku and then continued on as the movie progressed as they try to leave, Palpatine would still tell him to leave Obi-Wan behind, but fail. Palpatine would then be subjected to having to drag Dooku along with them since his hands were sliced off and since the elevator wasn't working, when the ship turned and they managed to get into the shaft, Dooku would have had to have been dragged into by his cloak, rather than get into it on his own. The rest of the scene would play out as follows, the ship turns right side up, Anakin's robot arm would be clinging to the cable, holding on to Palpatine, Obi-Wan, who would regain consciousness and notice the change of scenery, and Dooku, who would be very scared about falling to his doom, then when the elevator started working again, Obi-wan would quickly grab Dooku by the cloak and pull him through, barely missing the elevator. They would then help him up, and make the comment about finding something to fly out of the hanger in. General Grievous would then activate the Ray shields and Dooku, completely helpless to interfere, would then be dragged to see him after they get captured by the droids. Upon seeing Grievous on the Bridge, Dooku would insist he be brought to the medical bay and get prosthetic hands put in place of his severed limbs. Once he left the bridge, flanked by two Mark 1 battle droids, the scene would play out exactly as it is, only Anakin would then have to capture Dooku again after rescuing Palpatine from the Magna Guards. Dooku would then have to take a seat and get strapped in by force as the ship would then enter the atmosphere and make its....interesting landing. Cut to the next scene when they get to the Senate building and have Mace greet Palpatine, then look Dooku straight in the eye, and say "You will answer for your crimes against the Republic, Count, as well as to the Jedi who have died during this war" or something to that effect. Dooku would then be taken away and given prosthetic hands, and put under heavy security, flanked by Temple Guards. Until Order 66, he stays in captivity, and once the Temple guards either betray the Jedi and join Sidius like in the new canon, or defend the temple, Dooku escapes, grabs a lightsaber and starts witnessing Operation Knightfall. He then realizes what is happening and tries to contact Sidius in a communication room, who then says "There can only be two. And you are no longer my apprentice!" just as Anakin enters the room and stabs him through the chest, ending his life.
A few posibilities: 1. Palpatine kills them all and escape. He says that he was freed by the Jedi who stayed to battle Dooku and died during the crash. (This is unlikely because he wants Anakin as an apprentice.) 2. He force chokes the unconscious Obi-Wan Kenobi and kills him so Anakin thinks that Dooku killed him and kills Dooku. 3. He hire some bounty hunters to kill Dooku before he can be interrogated. 4. Dooku dies "tragically" during the crash on Coruscant.
This video gives me a great desire to see a "What if Dooku lived". Imagine his anger at being used as a pawn and then thrown away. Would he have been pivotal in the empire's down fall? Or more likely, a character a lot like Darth Maul in rebels.
think of maul and dooku as master and apprentice on this mission to get revenge on palpatine. but which of the two would be the master? maul or dooku? or maybe they would be partners and not their own little version of the rule of two
+Jerry Maul: Always two there are JEDI a master and an apprentice and YOU are the apprentice Dooku: Do not try to taunt me you Monster, I wouldn't take you as my apprentice if you are anything like you're brother Maul: Anything more to say Jedi or should I remind you that it was I who captured YOU all theses years ago and this time you will not have help from you're General or his army Dooku: I see and what makes you think you are fit to be the master of anyone, seeing as you failed you're brother causing his death Maul: Watch you're tongue my APPRENTICE once we are rid of my Former master I shall give you a lesson in PAIN you old wrinkly bastard
I think the reason Dooku did not give up Anakin because Darth Tyranus was full aware this was a test of his worthiness to remain a Sith Lord at the side of Darth Sidious. Look at the set up, a duel to the death between two combatants with the Dark Lord himself seated at his throne and watching. The winner not only lives, but claims his place as Sith Lord. Sidious continued to challenge Darth Vader in the same manner many times, right up until the duel with Luke Skywalker. Tyranous knew he was being tested and failure was death.
The kaminoans tried an uprising against the emperor but were crushed by vader. After this they became too much of an threat and so regular humans were put into service. Also clones only lived 40 years so they only could serve for smaller amounts of time despite beeing the better soldiers.
Every time I watch you talk about Dooku I can't help but feel a slight disappointment with the way the movies portrayed him. He just seems kinda jammed into the movie as a filler between Maul and Vader.
George lucas originally intended Jar Jar to be the main villain in the prequels with him being the one who orchestrated the whole plan. There is actually a surprising amount of evidence in episode one to suggest this. After how much he seen people hated him, he decided he didn't want to doom the franchise, and so made alternative arrangements. I think that Jar Jar being a sith would have redeemed him. What a better mask to hide behind than that of an idiot?
Count Dooku is definitely up there with Darth Vader. His sheer brilliance with words and skill with a lightsaber cannot be underrated. He's a sith lord that future sith's could definitely learn from.
I like to believe that Dooku realized, in his final moments, Palpatine's plans all along. He realized he was just a pawn, and that Anakin was his true goal. He was so distraught, that he was practically speechless
It's hard to explain, & I'll probably get a lot of "No"s but that technically means that the Separatists & the Republic are on the same side. Technically. Because Palpatine is both the Chancellor, & the Dark Lord of the Sith, & that makes him leader of both sides, so from a certain point of view, the Republic & Separatists are on the same side. But, they just don't know it. It's like that one episode from the Clone Wars where General Krell sends the Clones out to fight the enemy, & he says the enemy is wearing their armor, but they don't know that General Krell sent the Clones to kill each other. It's like that from a Certain Point of View,
Yes thats the point and that was the genius of papaltine or its possible to also credit papaltines former master Darth Plagius the wise. I think plagius was the brains behind the initial plan but i believe sidious took it to another level. Papaltine was a tru politician which partly the reason plaguis persued papaltine and of course the abundance of power papaltine had with the force.
Yes thats the point and that was the genius of papaltine or its possible to also credit papaltines former master Darth Plagius the wise. I think plagius was the brains behind the initial plan but i believe sidious took it to another level. Papaltine was a tru politician which partly the reason plaguis persued papaltine and of course the abundance of power papaltine had with the force.
In the "Revenge of the Sith" novelization it is explained pretty well too. That Dooku finally realized at the end that he was just another pawn in the seduction and turning of Anakin.
Thank you so much for this! I was just coming on to ask you to do a new "What If" scenario, which I'll get to.I wanted to say that when Dooku is killed by Anakin, the look on his face at Palpatine is that of raw, hurt betrayal. But it's a resignation because Dooku knows that it is the way of the Sith to seek out the most powerful apprentice. And, I think it's fair to say, Dooku had planned to do the same to Palpatine - eventually. It's indeed very obvious that Dooku knew of Palpatine's identity as Sidious. I'd also like to add in a footnote (since the Sith are always vying for power) that in Ep2 when Dooku is holding Obi-Wan hostage, he gives the hint of the Republic being controlled by Darth Sidious as his own way of testing the waters. He wanted to see if Obi-Wan would hear him out and become Dooku's apprentice. How fitting would it be for his student's (Qui-Gin) student to become the next Sith apprentice under Dooku's tutelage? Dooku may have convinced himself that if Obi-Wan could be turned then Obi-Wan's distaste for the Sith might be enough to bring him to the Dark Side; perhaps to make him a Dark Jedi. Since this failed, we see Assaj Ventress take that role.So my What If suggestions ties into this a little bit: What if the Confederacy of Independent Systems (the Separatists) won the Clone Wars? What would the galaxy look like under Confederate rule?And - bonus now that I think of it - What if Obi-Wan *had* listened to Dooku? Would we see an epic showdown of Obi-Wan/Dooku vs Palpatine? Could Palpatine still convince Anakin to become Darth Vader? Would maybe Obi-Wan/Dooku vs Palpatine/Vader be a battle? Could the Clone Wars have continued on for years more?Thanks for everything you do & keep it up!
+mrlorne12 Actually Palpy would've been kinda satisfied. He wanted Anakin because he was so damn powerful and would keep the Sith legacy aluve because of that fact, and if Dooku was to defeat him it would just show how powerful Dooku is. Also, Palpy wouldn't have to seduce Anakin to the darkside either.
the expression on Dooku's face at the very end says it all He never thought Darth Sideous/Palpatine would betray him like that. He was still wrapping his head around it when it was cut off Christopher Lee was an awesome actor.
Wow, what a gamble! How did he know that Anakin would kill Dooku? What if Anakin decided to spare Dooku his life, Dooku would've divulged a ton of Information before the Jedi and the Senate about Palpatine's and the true purpose of the Clones. Though I hate Palpatine, I admire how he is willing to risk everything just to get what he wants.
There's no reason why anyone would believe him, he was already a traitor and the republic kinda loved Palpatine at that point. The Jedi might have low key believed it though
Palpatine and dooku did a future glimpse in an episode of clown wars and he saw that Anakin would kill dooku so he used that as his chance to start truly turning him to the dark side
Another thing to take in - the novelisation of episode three, just before Anakin decapitated Dooku, he was about to speak. Anakin saw it as well, just before he did, he noticed Dooku about to say something.
Everyone except for Anikin, he was the queen on his chess bored, and I see Dookus as more of a rook, not worthless as a pawn, but not by any means the most important piece as he thought.
+Lord Vitiate, the Sith Emperor why didn't Sidious take Savage or both Him and Maul seeing as they wouldn't technically be Sith than when he killed plagieus he could start abandoning the rule of two
Stupendous Wave! I love your videos especially your what if series. So i was thinking you should do a what if series based on Dooku telling Anakin right there that Palpatine was the emperor. Or maybe a what if video describing what would have happened had Obi Wan not been knocked out by Dooku during the duel, or possibly even Anakin being the one who is knocked out during the fight.
I did realized long ago after Revenge of the Sith that no matter which side won, Sidious won. Either by as Sidious or Palpatine. Pretty interesting how that was written.
I agree, I think it was shock of Palpatines betrayal(which shows Dooku's naivete, as betrayal is the way of the Sith) and was killed too quickly to really think of exposing Palatine. I think, at first, Dooku thought it was some kind of test for him, and by the time he realized the finality of the betrayal, his head was rolling along the deck.
here's something I always found interesting. In the episode 3 game for ps2, the live action cut scene in which Palpatine tells Anakin to execute Count Dooku, Dooku yells at Palp's that he broke his promise(s). But in the movie, Anakin just kills him outright. So I always took that (including a few other pieces of evidence, here and there) that Dooku had no idea that he had kidnapped his master.
Palpatine is both highly intelligent and adaptable. So Regardless whom won the Clone Wars, Palpatine would win the War and Regardless won between Dooku and Anakin, Palpatine would gain a strong apprentrice.
You are right on it, you can see the look on his face when he hears Palatine order his death, he is totally shocked and before he can say or do anything Anakin kills him.
@The Stupendous Wave, I'd like to see a video analyzing the way events may have played out if Revan had succeeded in destroying Vitiate during the events of the "Revan" novel, it would be interesting to hear another opinion of what could have happened.
+VideoCopierCenteral He has a point though. Yoda probably would have killed Anakin instead of letting him live like Obi Wan did, even though Obi thought Anakin was going to die on his own and couldn't bring himself to kill him. Obi Wan would've died, but Yoda could've just as easily trained Luke, went to Tatooine instead of Obi Wan. Then Yoda and Luke could've defeated the Emperor much sooner, and Vader and Obi Wan would still meet the same fight that they did in canon. Yoda probably would've died in the fight or of old age anyway too.
+Andrew Hoskins yoda likely had new clue how much time he had left, and as Grand Master of the Jedi Order, would have been the Empire's priority A1 target, so that's why he went somewhere completely uninhabited
The look on Dooku's face said that he figured it was Palpatine(maybe even at that moment)... but didn't realise that he was playing the wrong game. It was shock that he had been out-manoeuvred and been discovered. Count Dooku was really trying to out the Sith Lord if you recall. He even said so to Obi-Wan Kenobi. He might have thought he would ultimately figure out how to beat him. Alas. In his death he realised too late that his intentions were known before hand. And it's possible that Palpatine deviously lent his power to Anarkin in the fight. Another shocker for Dooku.
How didn't the Jedi, or at least Obi-Wan, realize that the Clones were part of the Separatists's plan if they were cloned from Jengo, a part of the Separatists?
The Jedi had a feeling that the circumstances surrounding the Clones were mysterious, but the Jedi didn't have a choice but to trust the clones. The large-scale return of the Sith and the rise of Confederacy of Independent Systems forced the Jedi to accept the army they were given, despite their mis-givings about the Clone army. Basically, the Jedi suspected the Clones weren't what they seemed; but they had no choice but to trust them.
I'd like to see: What if Palpatine would have been killed during the clone wars, and what if the seperatists would have won as a result with Dookus as their leader?
In the ROTS novel, during the duel with Anakin it was mentioned that Dooku at some point was tempted to wink at Palpatine...there you go...another example that he knew Palpatine was Sidious.
Hey, hope you can answer this question: Why did the Kamino's not tell Obi Wan about the engrained Order 66 in the clones brain? Or why did they never question it in the first place when 'the jedi' put the order in place?
Originally dooku was supposed to question palpatine in the final moment before his death. When you see the camera look back at anakin "I shouldn't he should stand trial" dooku's head and jaw are moving. The lines were cut from the official revenge of the sith movie though.
In the comic version of Episode 3, Dooku looks at Palpatin, after Palpatin says "Kill him Anikan" and says "Master?!". Palpatin then says "Do it!". And Dookus head off. So there you have it..
I always felt that Dooku knew Sidious was a Senator but he didn't know which one. It was only when he heard the change in Palpatine's voice when he said "Do it!" that he realized the truth. Hence the surprised look on his face and his inability to say anything to Anakin. Knowing that Dooku was a "temporary" apprentice, Sidious would not want to reveal too much to him.
Hey Stupendous Wave, you left out an important part on Dooku not giving away Palpatine. Dooku did almost give away Palpatine (not sure if the book is considered cannon anymore, but it was the Star Wars Episode 3 novel) when, after having his hands cut off, Dooku starts to beg and call out for his Master to save him and spare him from death. I believe (I'm not 100% sure on this) that Anakin assumed Dooku was calling out to a Master who could hear him but was not present.
If I am not too mistaken, he actually directly tells Obi-Wan (during Obi-Wans captivity on Geonosis in Star Wars II) that the republic was led by a Sith, which is abit of a giveaway I think
Yeah the one thing about Dooku is that he literally played as much of a role in the rise of the Sith than Palpatine because he was the one who was more involved with it while Sidious was standing on the sidelines until he was forced into action. Dooku's story is just as tragic as Anakin's because he was among the greatest Jedi who lost his way with the light side, but he at least retired from the Jedi order at first. The big irony was that he saw the corruption in the Republic before anyone else while the Jedi simply ignored his concerns there. He then lost his greatest friend and probably something similar to an adopted son in Qui-Gon that then broke his will towards the dark side. As a Sith, he proved to be very powerful by being able to beat both Obi-Wan & Anakin and fighting on similar scale with Yoda in Episode 2 and proved to be a very powerful enemy against the Jedi Order during the Clone Wars. In summary, Dooku was a secondary character in the Star Wars franchise who easily had the storyline of a primary character!
I think that ultimately - in regards to Anakin himself - Dooku did not out Palpetine as a Sith Lord, because he simply wouldn't be believed. Not only was Dooku's warning about a Sith Lord controlling the senate all but disregarded as lies and deceit by Yoda and Windu, but Anakin had personally grown fond of Palpetine; seeing him as a friend and mentor even from young age. Also - could you do a video on who Sifo-Dyas? I figured that Dooku or Palpetine assumed his identity in order to make the Clone Army order to the Kaminooans, but what about the man himself? What is HIS story?
Dooku did know, that was why when Palpatine ordered Anakin to kill him, he looked surprised. As a Sith however, they are always searching for a stronger teacher and more power, so this order should not have been a shock to Dooku. He knew who Palpatine was in Episode 2, when Obi Wan was captured, he revealed in his own way that the Republic was being run by a Sith Lord.
In the novelization of Revenge of the Sith. Sidious and Dooku had a conversation. Dooku was to kill Obi-wan but be taken prisoner by Anakin. Sidious told Dooku that he would be imprisoned until the war was over.
It would've been awesome if all of this was actually in the movies. It would've given a greater depth to the villain and shown the full strings of the puppeteers influence.
Dooku also was of the belief (before TCW retconned this) that most Jedi would be killed. But Anakin would turn to the Dark Side and lead a new order of Dark Jedi loyal to Dooku and Palpatine. But in TCW they changed this when they did the arc about the inhibitor chips and Dooku revealed they were always meant to exterminate the Jedi.
In the novelization of Revenge of the Sith, Dooku didn't give Palpatine up because he was simply shocked at the betrayal. That's it. He was attempting figure it out in his head, at the worst possible moment, how the situation turned against him. When he finally figured out that he got played by Palpatine/Sidious, with two lightsabers at this throat, it was too late to say anything to anyone. He was taken in, just like everyone else.
Your video is perfect and I always thought YES Dooku knew Palpatine was sidious and when Anakin defeated dooku, Palpatine says Kill Him, Dooku realizes his Master no longer wants or needs Dooku and Anakin is meant to replace Dooku at Palpatine's side. Yelling "Palpatine is Darth Sidious !" would be pointless because it wouldn't be believed and it wouldn't stop Anakin from killing Dooku.
Maybe Dooku was just shocked at feeling the Dark Side welling up inside Anakin right at that final moment he was incredulous that Sidious had used him as a pawn the entire time. Remember, Palpatine knew about Anakin and his potential as the most powerful Jedi ever before he and Dooku ever met (even if you don't believe the fan theory about Palpatine being Anakin's father or creating him through the Force). After the (supposed) death of Darth Maul, Palpatine knew his next apprentice was going to have to be someone extremely manipulative in order to help him get to Anakin, which is probably why Dooku was such a good candidate, as someone who was never completely loyal to the Jedi Order, and someone who was tied up in various allegiances and influences in galactic politics. He also needed someone powerful enough to stand up to the Jedi in general, but not so powerful that Anakin couldn't ultimately defeat him, and that is exactly what he got.
It also kind of mirrors the similar scene in RotJ with Palpatine sitting in front of that same window, where Vader is basically willingly helping him recruit Luke, knowing that if he is successful, Luke will likely have to kill him. It seems to just be the way of the Sith to submit to your more powerful master, and allow your life to be taken, because it is ultimately less valuable to you than increasing the power of the Sith.
I never really liked the aspect of "rhyming" for the sake of rhyming in the PT, but this is perhaps the only instance where I think it was really effective storytelling. Similar to this channel's "What If..." videos. What if Luke had successfully been seduced at the end of RotJ? Well, here we sort of get the answer. The players all fulfill their roles, with the disrupting factor being the presence of Obi-Wan, whose influence over Anakin is still very resonant, and so Anakin's total conversion to the dark side is delayed, with this scene being in the first act of RotS, and the scene it mirrors being in the last act of RotJ.
I liked Duku's charachter. He follwed his own path to the end not betraying what he thought the path faithful to his vision, though misguided. In the end just another betrayed by the dark side for its own uses. It added a third dimension not seen since in the following films. Hopefully there's depth to the sequels other than new cg and recycling of storylines.
Read Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover. In the beginning, when Palpatine needed "rescuing", he and Dooku we're talking of their plot to turn Anakin . . . . It states that Sidious looked like "an event horizon" in the Force. Yes, Dooku was aware that Palpatine was Sidious. This was established years ago.
In the Darth Vader comics. Sidious says that Maul was a waste, and describes Dooku as a proton torpedo, a singular use that is really effective, but used up.
also a good side theory would be "What would be the end result of Anakin and Palpatines plans for Anakin if Padme had died earlier on by maybe an accident or more interesting if she was murdered by Dooku's hired bountry hunter Jango Fett or perhaps murdered by Count Dooku himself.
I think he thought he would be taken prisoner. I think he was so shocked at the order to execute him, and death came so soon that he had no time to squeal on him.
Dooku was a pawn to Sidious , his sacrifice was neccasary in drawing the war to a close and appoint Anakin as his successor. I'm intrigued to see empire propaganda immediately following the war and failed assassination attempt by Windu and other jedi . Remember , the idea that the Jedi are engaging in a conspiracy to take over the republic is mentioned by Palpatine a good few times in episode 3 . But the jedi were clueless , igmorant that the sith were controlling the republic and I believe an overlooked key moment is in that scene in episode 2 where dooku tells half the story to obi wan but fundamentally , that a sith Lord controls the republic . This is important ! Because while the council scoff at such an idea , the thought is planted . The reason Dooku gives away the big secret is so that the Jedi will eventually make their move and attempt to arrest or assassinate Sidious which then justifies order 66 . There's a scene wherethe council talk of removing palpatine from office should he not reverse his emergency powers and it is pointed out that this would , if temporarily, give Jedi control over the Senate . Palpatine masterminded everything brilliantly , or rather Lucas did .
in the revenge of the sith novel, dooku and palpy/sidious were talking about bringing obiwan to the dark side since he was the apprentice to his apprentice but palpy said nooo noooo nooo.
All of these questions are answered if you read the books (and watched the movies, to a lesser extent). Dooku was using Palpatine to learn from him, and he was going to betray him eventually. Dooku didn't care about being a Sith any more than he cared about being a Jedi. He wanted to run the show and bring order to the galaxy. He lost faith in everyone with any kind of political power. He wanted Obi Wan to join him. He actually tried to talk Palpatine into keeping ObiWan alive and against Anakin, but Palpatine had his mind made up. Its for this reason that most likely Palpatine knew he had to get rid of Dooku. And yes, Dooku absolutely knew of Palpatine/Sidious' identity. He even said it to Obi Wan in the 2nd movie. (didn't need to read the book to answer that question..)
Hey dude, Love your videos man, they are so cool. I have a question though, do you know who used Lightsaber Whip Blades...? I haven't read all of the Star Wars books nor have I seen all the TV Shows to date so I apologies if it's right in front me lol... I saw the Whip Blades on a Saber website for sale.... Thanks man and keep up the great work.... "May the Force be with you"
Please do one answering whether Count Dooku really intended to destroy the sith as he told obi wan as well as saying that qui-gon would have joined him
I personally always suspected that Dooku knew about Sidious' identity as Palpatine. Given what had to happen prior to the Clone Wars and during, it's impossible to believe that Dooku didn't know... At least for me it is. But anyways, at the end of it all when Palpatine ordered Anakin to kill Dooku after their duel, I too think that chances are Dooku was just too shocked to reveal who Palpatine truly was. But I'd take it a step further than that... Dooku was a Sith long enough to know their ways, how they operate. He knew Sith weren't inclined to show mercy, especially where failure was concerned. I know some would perceive that Palpatine knew Anakin would win and that Dooku was merely a glorified place-holder, and for the most part I'd agree. But Anakin still would have to prove himself to be strong enough and worthy enough to be Sidious' apprentice, and that meant going through Dooku. So in a way, while Dooku fulfilled his purpose, he still failed to prove himself worthy enough to remain at Sidious' side, even if Sidious never intended to keep Dooku as his apprentice. So with that in mind, I think after his initial shock faded before the killing blow was dealt, Dooku resigned himself to death, knowing that he failed to prove himself worthy enough to continue serving Palpatine as an apprentice. True enough, maybe in the end he still figured better the Sith than the ineffectual Jedi and their corrupt Senate, but I think it may be more likely that he was enough of a Sith to accept their ways and by extension accept his fate. He failed, and no mercy would be shown for his failure.
Not only did the count know Palpatine was the chancellor, but he knew Anaken was his next apprentice, which he learned either through Palpatine or when "Palpatine said kill him and stared at doily"
You say that Dooku was extremely loyal to Darth Sidious, and people wondered why he never gave up Palpatine after being subdued by Anakin. However, he did elude to it when he tried to turn Obi-Wan to his cause in Attack of the Clones. While he never gave him up by name, he said the Republic was being controlled by the Sith Lord; and that it was confirmed through the viceroy of the Trade Federation, who served and was betrayed by the Sith Lord called "Darth Sidious", 10 years earlier. So, what if Obi-Wan had "bit" on the offer? I feel that had Obi-Wan joined Dooku, at that moment, that Dooku would have broke allegiance to Darth Sidious. That Obi-Wan outright arrogantly dismissed him, that it may have been the final straw which Dooku completely gave up on the Jedi Order. Also, to me, without spelling it directly out who the Sith Lord was, that this would have shined a bright light on those who were most instrumental in directing the goings on of the Republic. So, had Obi-Wan not outright dismissed Dooku claims, due to his own pride or arrogance, I would think that the Jedi would have been extremely suspicious of the power players within the Republic, including the Chancellor.
I really want a re-do of the prequels or at least some kind of animated cartoon series where it portrays similar events to the Clone Wars series that lead up to Anakin not turning to the dark side but with the Empire still being forged by Palpatine.
Originally if anything like what happened in the duel, dooku is defeated, palpatine said he would reveal himself to make sure that his apprentice didn't die
I would love to see you do a video on the founding of the Jedi order, before all the lightsabers and massive wars, when it was basically just a couple dudes realizing the potential of the force
First, I just wanted to say that I love your videos and channel! And, I can't wait to see what your next vid will be! I did want to let you know though that it's very frustrating sometimes trying to figure out where you're getting your info. I like to think I'm keeping up with the new canon pretty well, but I can't for the life of me remember some of these story elements being canon. While I know that you're pretty much an expert on Star Wars, it's just hard for me to trust everything that's said about it. Half the things I've heard in the past from other fans were either just fan assumptions, or theorys, and now a lot of the true stuff isn't canon anymore. I really wish you would take the time to let us know exactly what movie/book/show/comic all the info is from. You wouldn't even have to say it in the video, just cite the works in the description. It would lend a lot of credibility to yourself and go a long way with all yours fans. Just saying. Anyway, keep up the goodwork!!!
Palpatine betrays dooku....quote from the book--> Quite so, my Master. Quite so.” Again, Dooku sighed. Today he felt every hour of his eighty-three years. “It is … fatiguing, to play the villain for so long, Master. I find myself looking forward to an honorable captivity.” and two chapters later dooku begs Palpatine to not let Anakin kill him.
Im pretty sure Count Dooku told Obi Wan about the Senate being controlled by the Sith when he was held captive on Geonosis in Episode II. Obi Wan didn't believe him. I am sure that Darth Maul knew about Palpatine's plan as well. The separatist leaders did not know though. Palpatine was using them for his master plan. Remember, even in Episode I when Nute Guneray was speaking with Sidious about the blockade of planet Naboo he asked Sidious if it was "legal" to which the Sith replied "I will make it legal" right before he was elected Chancellor. The Sith always knew, the rest of the galaxy didnt.
Yes, it is written well in the Book of Revenge of the Sith. And the look Dooku gives in the movie when Palatine tells Anakin to kill him says it all, too.
Count Dooku Definitely knew 100% that Palpatine was Darth Sidious and the big give away is when Palpatine told Anakin to kill dooku and you see shock and horror from dooku and his reaction to palaptine was like how could you
I had wish Dooku was a more fleshed out character, I know he was on the animated TV show The Clone Wars but I'm talking acout in the movies on the big screen.
