As you all know, I don’t do a ton of reaction videos. Nor do I react to a ton of trendy stuff that’s going on. However, on something like this comes up that I am passionate about and fits within the vision of this channel and ministry, I really feel obligated and led to provide a response. I pray that you’ll take some time out of your day to watch this entire video and let me know your thoughts below.
Any so-called pastor of a church who teach false doctrine for decades, by failing to rightly divide the Word and then have the audacity to say I’m not apologizing, is a very serious problem no matter how one justifies themselves (claiming to be ignorant does not nullify sincerely apologizing) especially for all the ppl whom was led astray by believing those teachings. Countless lives was affected by this.
@Christopher Hayes The Bible is very clear in first Corinthians 14. This is not even up for debate. If there is no interpreter in the church, you should not speak in tongues. Done. End of story. He knows better. The Bible says if there is no interpreter then they need to speak quietly between them and God.
Pastors who teach 10% tithing but knows the truth on giving yet lie bc of fear the ppl won’t give besides trusting God and being faithful to preaching the truth, need to repent of their arrogance or step down. Truth is not based on feelings. These false doctrines have caused devastation in the church for decades.
I was a tither for 13 years! I was in debt and miserable. When l finally left the church everything changed. My walk with God became better. On the other hand l do believe in giving from my heart expecting nothing in return. Once l did it this way God opened up new doors.
Even though I believe in paying tithes and offerings, if you are conducting your life godly and giving what God puts on your heart, that is good. I have been taught to ask God to make a way to be able to pay tithes and offerings, through more than one way, if need be. Always put God first. Seek His direction. Believe His Word to you.
@@enod9746 It must be very hard for a single mother who doesn't have much income, to pays tithes, along with her offerings. But if she cries out to God, God will make a way for her. Many do things for others, especially in the church, truly in the name of the Lord, and it is a constant offering to the Lord. You will know by her godly spirit. Each of us must hear from God concerning our situation. If one has a true pastor, the pastor should give godly advice, for it's from God. Yet, true, overspending can be a problem, but let God deal with them. Life is not easy, but we can all glorify God by obeying Him, not man. God speaks to His own, who hear Him. Are we hearing? Many who get on here know many scriptures, but they don't know the Revealer of the Truth of the scriptures. They say, scripture says this, but they never say, God says this and show it by scripture. They leave God out, because God didn't show them, man did. God will not be applied to any lies any man believes. Demons will lie about it, though.
That is terrible that you were in debt. Wow. You should’ve not paid them. I pay tithes. My pastor never used fear tactics. If I can pay I do. If I can’t I don’t. It’s that simple
@@enod9746 when you're a single parent, often spending has little to nothing to do with it. Necessary bills, rent or mortgage, making it to work(gas, car payment, maintenance and insurance or a bus pass) daycare fees, food, school supplies, clothes for growing children, missed days at work due to an illness...these are ways to get in debt. The single parents that sacrifice for their children have a difficult time even justifying putting their children into a sport, buying the school pictures every year and even the $5-$10 for a field trip. I know these things, by being one of these parents of 3 boys. It is not easy but by the grace and mercy God gives, we somehow make it through. If this testimony were because of spending, there would be no tithing and debt surely wouldn't go away with or without tithing.
Pray God lifts the scales from the lukewarm and lost eyes, opens their ears and soften their hearts. Pray God strengthens His children, gives them more discernment, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding 🔥
ok then brothers and sisters in Christ.... according to Jesus He said the other matters of the law were weightier... practicing Justice mercy and Gods faithfullness.... now He never said that tithing is not a part of the law so that can definelty justify using that Malahchi verse.. yet this is not the weightier part of our faith.... if you cant tell anyone about Jesus Christ but u tithe then u got your matters backwards.... eveangelism is definetly weightier than tithing....if you cant give cheerfully u need to rebalance your faith..
The beautiful thing about grace giving is not just giving to your local church pastors. It is also helping fellow Christians with money who have need. Moreover it is not only limited to money, but also giving gifts and personally assisting them if they need help with anything. But everything that you give, you give it with joy as God moves your heart.
ANDDDDDD a lot of Christians won't/can't understand this concept... 10% is not all!! It's actually more when you count up all the different offerings and stuff that they give... But it's a lot of churches that will teach on tithes. I feel more churches would let go of this if people weren't so stingy and only put in a few dollars but will spend money on other things that don't benefit you.
I was on welfare and still paying tithes out of my welfare checks. My father would say how can you pay tithes when you bearly making it. ...But I did it and I believe what I was doing was right. I was being blessed. Doors was opening for me and although I know obedience is better than sacrifice. I am just trying to be my best, give my best to the Lord. I been taught this (tithing) all my life. This is kinda of hard for me but glory to God for aligning His people in the correct direction. Thank you Heavenly Father.
When you read the Bible tithing was never monetary it was always and still is about crops. Just because something good is happening in your life doesn't mean God is the one giving to you. When you understand the bible even Satan himself can gives to you to keep a people sleep from the truth to the point a person think it's God blessing them. Look Satan offered Christ the world all he had to do bow down and worship him.
Tithe gets God involved in your finances. God's sees and knows. Learn to be a giver. :There are many ways to give. Give and it shall be given unto you." Tithe is not a debt that you owe, but a seed that you sew.
@@mikaelyasharahla72 When you give tithes and offerings to a good ministry, it gives glory to God. Sometimes God does not give material or monetary increase as one gives tithes and offerings, but rather an increase in spiritual growth, wherein God is able to increase the whole man. Things like more self control, and so many other benefits in the spiritual realm, in other words, helping us to live more godly.
Even on low income , with disability I still tithe and God has been faithful. At one point I was struggling financially and was tempted not to tithe during that period, but I continued to tithe and God has never failed me. He has only blessed me. Sometimes I look at my bank account trying to figure out where this "extra" money is coming from when prices are increasing and my expenses exceeds my income, but realize that God can do all things. Just as He fed the 5,000 with an abundance of leftovers, He provides for me in the same way.
Praise God. People with far more income than you won't tithe and give offerings. I believe, or would like to believe (from a human standpoint, that makes sense, but God will judge right, nevertheless), that God will show them the error of their ways on judgement day, by comparing them with people like you, and they will know that they disobeyed Him. I believe for you there will be a reward. For them, most of them, I shudder to think about it.
Sounds like religious talk to me. Let’s be realistic God isn’t going to put someone else Money in our bank accounts. People say they got a check in the mail And they don’t know where it came from…….. l believe we sometimes make stuff in our heads not to feel silly.
@@vikkicarr3255 In all reality, everything is God's to begin with. I've honestly experienced God's miraculous hand where money showed up out of nowhere when I was in need. He often works in ways that we don't understand. But His plans are His plans, His ways are His ways, and His thoughts are His thoughts, not ours. When we trust Him to provide, He will. That is what He is; a Provider. Praise be to the Most High.
Many of you can't be blessed by God because of continued disobedience in your life, so the tithe broke you. But it didn't break a disabled person. You should think about that, and even be ashamed that you cannot obey God. What God meant to be a blessing, tithes and offerings, for the work and glory of God, has turned into a curse for the disobedient ones, as God cannot bless them. They bless themselves, but not God. Many have been deceived by false preachers, yet, tithes and offerings are not Jewish law concerning the tenth, which Abraham gave to Melchizedek, they are prelaw. You can trust God, in tithes and offerings. It's been proven countless times. Don't live in past failures, but rather, obey God in all things, including tithes and offerings and see if God doesn't keep His word to you. The Jews collected 23 and a third percent. No wonder why God was displeased with them, they fleeced the people. That's more than double a tenth. And some want to go back to the old testament. They don't know how corrupt Israel had become.
Also you don’t have to ever apologize for making a longer video I think I can speak for a large group of the people who watch your videos; we love if when you give in depth longer teachings!
YES, brother Jacob!!!! Godly time doesn't have a time limit. I know Bro. Allen is trying to be mindful of our time and his - but my goodness....speak on my brother!!
@@blessedwithoutmeasur he was deceived by who? He will do better? After making millions from the distortion of the Bible? The Bible says - do not be deceived. This applies to you and to me.
Moment of transparency, I spent years watching and learning from Creflo. Believing that God would give me this life of prosperity and abundance he preaches about. Named it, claimed it, believed it, received it, called those things that be not as though they were, the whole 9. Long story short, as you said, it led to much hurt, disappointment and frustration when things didn't come to fruition. Sent me to a dark place. I essentially had to deprogram all these prosperity teaches from my brain and reprogram myself with sound biblical teaching. These days, I have a much more discerning ear when listening to preachers. I'm happy to say I have a much healthier relationship with God now and much healthier expectations of what this walk with Christ means. So while I appreciate Creflo for introducing me to Christ, I'm more thankful that I've grown away from his teachings.
I was introduced to creflo ministry by a college acquaintance who was into the pyramid scam. I didn't know about it until after. I went there a couple of times and I didn't feel right. I no longer speak with the acquaintance...thankfully.
Wow this gives glory to God for not leaving Him may the sweet Lord bless you dear for being there and waited for the truth of the word to come to you. Am blessed by just reading this.
You dissected the sermon while educating us on biblical truths. I pray that Creflo will continue to grow in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior as I pray the same for us all.
Discovered this a few years ago and it really set me free. Giving should always be from the heart, whether it’s time, money, skills, knowledge, etc. Churches should have to trust God the same way we ask congregants to trust Him.
Exactly. All giving must be without any conflict on your conscience. That is manipulation. Whether money or your skills or whatever else. An appeal is made and you choose on your own heart what to do.
@@hman9581 Paul said we should decide in our hearts (for ourselves) what we are willing to give. I think that's what the OP is saying. Church leaders using manipulation and fear techniques to get people to do things, and withholding or embellishing teachings to facilitate that undue influence is the problem.
@@TheSeeking2know I could mention the Channel Belief It Or Not covering Tilthing, but not only is it way more pressing to mention his deeply-empathic and very-cmpassionate video 'Why Do I care'? from last Week, but also, i wanted y'all to hear the following at least Once in your Life: Every Holy Text in all of Existence makes clear: God is man-made. Hence why he only knows as much as those that made him up. No God/Holy-book has EVER known a single thing that the Humans worshipping said God did not know. GET THIS: The God of the bible is literally a flat-earther and obviously does not even know WHAT Stars are! He doesnt even know what Stars are BECAUSE the people who made... him... up... didnt know. This holds true 100 Percent.
I Tithes as a way of worship not because God will give me something. I do it with a joyful heart saying "Thank you Lord for all of the blessings you have given to us" .
Well in our church we practice voluntary giving and nothing is lacking. Our congregates understand the grace that God showed them for their salvation and that's enough motivation for them to give.
When Jesus looked at the giving plate he saw the widow women was give all she had. Jesus saw the heart.She gave more than 10%. I was taught the tithe is your soil and offering is seed. Tithe was before the law. Tithe was in the garden of Edon. Don't eat of the one tree , but you can eat of the rest. Maybe the real issue is how Dollar used the money and his heart on why he collected the money. IS HE FEEDING THE POOR. Or doing missionary work . Or is Dollar building store houses so he can live well, drive big cars and fly private jets.
I have tithed for as long as I can remember,since a teenager! I’m approaching 70.:Thank you for this teaching. A tithe and beyond is NOTHING compared to the Cross. Once again young man thanks for the illumination on this topic. God bless you.
My husband & I have stayed true to tithing (10-30% of income) for 27 years, and cheerfully give. God has truly blessed us and our seven children, who have all graduated from college. 10% is a guide. You can still give more. I have been a housewife for over 27 years, & we have never missed a financial beat! God keeps the floodgates opened! I’ve never heard these “fear tactics” & “cursed tactics” preached. Please continue to give at least 10%. Learn to live off your 90%. Give God first fruit and He will take care of the rest. I am a living witness.
I will say this first. If you live off of 90%, you are not giving offerings and still are cursed. I knew someone who maybe in a whole year of working, for years, who maybe twice a year would give offerings, maybe. Small amounts, too. Some people can't tithe in money, but they can make up the difference in other ways as God directs. If a one has much money, it is much easier to tithe, especially if the ones are hard working, honest, Christians...oh, I just gave away part of the secret of successful tithing and offerings for people. They work hard to get their income. But that does not help the ones who are not in those situations, but the ones who desire to please God and tithe and give offerings, He will make a way. Many live for themselves rather than God, so the devil discouraged them, makes them spend money on pleasures instead of the work of God. I understand most ministries are not truly serving God. I also understand that there are more calls for money in a serious ministry for the Lord. What am I saying? Let God direct your giving starting with the tithe. I know I am repeating what you said, but praise God. This is really for anyone to read.
@@michaelalbertson7457 Once again, 10% is a GUIDE. Seek God when making decisions & He will let you know if the time is right to buy that car, home, or any other purchase that will prevent you from receiving your blessings. So often people jump out there & buy things God never said they should get, and now they have to pay their creditors first because they have to “ survive”. If a person doesn’t have the Faith to believe that God will keep His word, they need to seek a closer relationship with Him. Tithing in “other ways” other than your income, is just an excuse to hold on to your cash. Many years ago, I rented an apartment based on 80% of my income so I would have the room to tithe. Today I am a landlord. I kept my faith and God kept His word!
@@SpicyWife4Life Once again, tithing is pre law. Abraham gave Melchizedek a tenth. It is our guide. Then Malachi mentioned offerings to, both accompanied by repercussions, good and bad. It is our guide. Yours is arbitrary. Nowhere in the Bible is God arbitrary in this.
I just found this video and agree with all of what Bro. Parr said. I listened to Creflo Dollar and waited to hear him say, I WILL REFUND ALL MONEY TO THOSE WHO PURCHASED MY FALSE TEACHING (i.e books, cd's, dvd's he mentioned). But I never heard that. Hummmm....there are times when you must make amends when you ask for forgiveness.
I remember when I was younger at an old Baptist church the pastor ALWAYS started off the tithing with Malachi 3:9. Soon as you heard “Will a man Rob God?” You already knew what time it was.
Three of the most unpopular topics in the church today: 1. Sin 2. Hell 3. Suffering Most of what Jesus preached Three of the most popular topics in the church today: 1. Abundance (wealth) 2. Calling and Purpose (vocation/career) 3. Spiritual Gifts
not at the baptist church here in scotland were i attend.. pastor kenny preaches an teaches the word.. ALL of it.. much like our allan here .. very believable an true.. ahhh so good to hear.. hugs all xx
@@kingdomsoldier927 aye it surely is J.. to know that my bible is still alive an telling me the truth of itself.. lol .. allan our firnd here is one of the best for me as well.. but he is over in the states.. sob sob.. baptist here in inverness is best ever church i have attended since years ago in british columbia, canada.. an i am, giggle, 81.. heheh so 'bout time huh.. hehe x blessings to you J..
It doesn't matter how you started, what matters the most is how you ended. God wants us to repent now while we are still on this earth. Bravo Dr Dollar👍
Allen I want to thank you so much for this this was truly truly amazing. I attended a church that did not speak or preach on tithing at all and the pastor said that’s between you and God and it felt so good to be able to give and give freely with no pressure and I love that and I did not mind giving and that’s the way it should be in all churches and they will see the results so much greater. thank you thank you so much for this. And now I can look at this pastor again through a different lens.
Since he started preaching the message of Grace has lost church members and Pastors who were friends with him. I’ve been so blessed with Pastor Creflo teachings. I lived with so much condemnation. I did tithe out of fear. So glad for his teaching. The Great Misunderstanding title of message. I believe we are a work in progress.
Well said! I wholeheartedly agree. He had enough humility and courage to admit publicly that he was in error. That's why I respect and admire him. His teachings on the grace of God have brought me back from the brink of suicide and destruction because for years I lived under the yoke of religious condemnation and guilt and the Bible truths he shares have set me free. Praise, God! Today, I am more confident and secure in the love of God.
Sister Park… please hear me as I say this, be very careful and ask The Most High for discernment on what I am about to say. This “misunderstanding” and the resultant “new understanding” are two sides of the same coin. Ask yourself some questions… 1.) is Creflo truly repenting? As he never said that he was sorry (claims that his being wrong was all a misunderstanding)… okay but I don’t “understand” how a person who is so learned in the scriptures and has been the subject of so many conversations about the error of the teachings he espoused can say that it was just a misunderstanding? 2.) If he was truly repentant why has he not done what Zacchaeus did when YESHUA had dinner with him and brought him the gospel and he said that he would repay double to anyone he had wronged. How many people (widows, elderly mothers, etc.) have given of their meager means based on the false teachings of Creflo, how many people have bought books, CDs etc.? Is he going to repay those people? That’s what repentance brings. 3.) Finally, his false teaching based on grace is worse than his previous one. Now instead of him teaching that you must give a tenth to be blessed, he is saying that under grace there is no longer a 10% cap on your giving and God will bless you if you give more! It’s the same coin just the other side. Why? Because, there’s no amount of money that you, me or anyone else can “give” The Most High in order to buy/gain HIS blessings! HE blesses us according to our belief in HIS SON and HIS riches in heaven not our riches or lack thereof on earth. PS All that “speaking in tongues” foolishness let’s me know that he’s still not right!
You see you got played! Tithing was never meant for us Malachi was telling the Israelites to store 10% (food)🍞🥩🐄 in the temples Warehouse because hard times was coming.. it was never about monetary money💰
Would he give back all of the money the idiots give. ? I give what i can afford and give it consistently without grouging. He is a crook. Give backs the planes ✈️ and the houses, and everything that he got from the poor people money. I am not a preacher and i knew that a long time ago. I know the differences between the old and new covernant. He now woke up after all these years? Madness and smart because he realize people are waking up to all these faults prophets. God id good.
I have learned so much from him and this is definitely a reason why I will continue to listen to him. To do this means he's never been about the money. He'd rather have to correct himself than to keep silent, enjoy that tithe money and let the church which is wanting to please God, suffer. Not many pastors would do this. Thank God that he never said he knew it all. I have listened to hundreds of his messages and have heard him say many many times, he is still learning and discovering the truth. Let's not idolize and hate this man, he's a teacher being taught. He's human. And he knows his father's will for his children. Don't blame him for the confidence he has in his father. Even us earthly beings trust our fathers.
I am so happy this happened and revealed the truth. For so many years, people have been coerced and confused about the topic of tithing. Thank you Mr. Parr for clarifying!
This was not true repentance.. theftyo dollar did not repent here.. the man literally didn't even apologize.. he said he wouldn't apologize.. true repentance would be him really apologize to everyone in their for stealing their money, stealing from God himself if you think about it.. because everything belongs to God.. he would have repented right there to God I'm front of everyone and ask forgiveness.. and then ask forgiveness from all those he lied to and stole from..
I love how quick everyone is to judge someone that is a human being just like the rest of us. No one should be held to a perfect standard. We all fail, and we all sin. Blessed is he who repents of his sin and humbles himself before God.
We should have never been paying tithe! He got one thing right we're Gentiles why should we be paying tithe? That was almost 3,000 years ago Malachi was telling Israelites to store 10% (food) it has nothing to do with us now🙀
I always wanted to be a part of a real church that actually observed the 10 commandments for Christ sake and my own soul salvation. I preached what I learned from the bible and not from seminary and people low key laughed at me or saw me as over zealous but I know the bible wasn't wrong about sabbath day worship and free will offerings in the new testament and people trying to mix the old with the new which Christ Himself forbade. He rebuked the Jehovah witnesses in His time by telling them not to go door to door preaching and telling them plainly in Psalms that Christ is no angel when He said "to which angel have I said thou art my Son this day have I begotten thee" or " your throne Oh GOD is everlasting Kingdom". He rebuked Catholicism and Apostle Paul by saying "call no man your father on earth for there is only One Father which is in heaven." Yet government churches (all denominations) worship on sunday and Catholics and even some protestant churches refer to priest as fathers and pastors spiritual fathers which is all birthed out of flattery and loyalty not faithfulness or scripture.
Wow I'm so impressed by Creflo Dollar and his growth, I never thought in my life time I'd hear a person like him explain the law so well and rightly divide the word of God. We must never give up in praying for the oneness in doctrine and faith in the body of Christ. If it wasn't for brother Allen I would've never heard this from Creflo Dollar. God bless you my brother.
Mr. Dollar said "I was wrong but I won't apologize because it's made the man that I am"? How is that repentance? Then goes on in the sermon to teach more fake words? This is not repentance.
@@allofchristforalloflife8437 I totally agree. He truly didn’t repented. I seen this version about the same video on Justin Peters ministries RU-vid page. I was shocked 😮 when he say it. Praying for him to REPENT forreal from his false teachings.
@@user-qr5bz2pq7v Mr. Dollar did not have biblical repentance. People can be forgiven through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ by faith. Dollar has been stealing money, preaching unbibical doctrine and preachs a work based salvation. Forgiveness begins with salvation first.
So thankful for this play-by-play Allen. Pastor Dollar gave and then took away. Sometimes I think he should just end the message when he feels his flesh taking over. I pray he comes to the truth of his errors here and do a follow up to his congregation. It really breaks my heart to see these folks swallowing the cool aid. Jesus never promised us ease in the Christian walk. He actually told us the opposite will likely be our experience. Please don’t stop doing the unpopular.
My cousin said: breakfast or Creflo? The WAY he said it-chose BREAKFAST 🥞! Thanksgiving 1998. Never went to his church the ENTIRE time I lived in Atlanta (2007-2018)! The jet ✈️ thing was a REAL tell (2015)!
True, but we have to remember that worshiping Jehova is not about Jesus Christ but it is about what God want from us and abot what Jesus Christ is teaching us to do in order to be able to enter that eternal life after death and we have to remember that Jesus Christ himself was never a so called christian leligiously but he was a Nazirite/Nazaren, for my understanding.
A lot of Christian have began to read and understand the structure for themselves and ask questions, and realize we are under grace and not under the law, glory to God.
God has never changed and God is always moving and it is a good possibility it is a definite possibility we are not on the either law at all anymore but I'm the law of the age of kingdom
This is why it’s so important for us to have our own relationship and time of fellowship and study in the Word and prayer with the Holy Spirit and not rely solely on the teaching of others. Nobody is Jesus but Jesus.
That's it Elie - a million times over! LAZY folks will NEVER do this, nor appreciate it's value. I thank GOD that He has shown me, in my life's experience with Him, the ABSOLUTE IMPORTANCE of what you wrote! People (pastors, 'prophets', etc.) WILL let you down...but - no worries! ONLY GOD IS GOD! Many fake pastors / prophets / apostles today anyway...go for YOURSELF in GOD - can't trust too many 'ministers' today...greedy prophets,. immoral pastors....etc. KNOW HIM FOR YOURSELF!
Exactly. I did my own research 5 years ago after being a faithful tither for years. Now I know I’m no longer under the law but under grace. So I give cheerfully. Because tithing for me was already part of me, instead of stopping I switched it to offering. So I still give my 10% sometimes less sometimes more as offering but one thing is I NO LONGER HAVE THOSE GUILT TRIPS ANYMORE! All glory to God 🙏🏽
I can honestly say that when I thite, I lack nothing, God is faithful. God does not need our money, He needs our heart, and money is hard to let go. So when we thite we show God where are heart is.
Tithing is a principle I’ll continue to stand on. I’ve been practicing these for decades and it works for me. God gives me enough to tithe AND give, with my ALL my bills still being paid. By the wisdom of God I was able to pay off a brand new car ($26,000) in 7 months. Paid off my son’s car ($23,000 in TWO WEEKS, stock market). All this while tithing. No husband, boyfriend, and side piece, just Him. He provides.
Do you understand that along with the tithe that the curse of the law is attached to it? I tithed for years and was faithful to it, and blessed as well, because God understand I believe that our heart is in the right place, but we need to be directed to the truth. Over ten years ago I began to feel a heavy burden that God would punishment me if I didn't tithed, and that was to much to bear, because I understood that Jesus came to set the captives free whom the son sets free is free indeed, and God wasn't holding His fist up at HIs people demanding you pay tithes especially since tithes was for His chosen people Israel in particular the Levites Numbers chapter 18. God hasn't placed those who received Jesus under the Old Covenant Law which belong to Israel. If you read Malachi chapter 1 verse 1 you will see that God is speaking to Israel, and not the church pastors don't never teach the entire book, before you get to chapter 3:10 "will God rog God? we have to read from the very beginning as to whom God is speaking to, and in this case it was Israel, because the church was not yet established, because Jesus had not yet been born it wasn't until Jesus was born then crucified when he himself was under the Law that he broke the chains of bondage when he was resurrected from the grave where now the New Testament church is under (Grace and not the Law). Ok tithe, but just know you're placing yourself under the curse also, and you must do all of the law, and there were three other tithes that were to be done as well. When you tithe you put Jesus who sacrificed his life for all humanity to no effect, it is by faith that we're saved, and that we're able to please God. Jesus fulfilled the curse of the law by his death which Jesus allowed God's judgement, and our punishment to be poured out for our sin on him, so to deny Jesus Christ by placing yourselves under the law isn't what God wants, if we deny Christ, and his death that brought freedom we are dying God who sent his only begotten son, and Jesus said if you deny me before men I will deny you before my father in heaven.
I don't mind tithing, i feel i am blessed for doing it. I don't feel the need to change. I'm glad Creflo felt he needed to do this, To me it says a lot about his character and love for God. I'm good on all fronts
Feelings are never facts, and it really shouldn't be the reason why you give money. Please understand, Tithing was apart of 612 laws that pertained to Moses for the children of Israel. Just like the laws in the US, we as Americans are obligated and expected to follow all laws or there will be consequences for breaking any of them. It the same point about the 613 laws of Moses, they couldn't pick one law and neglect all the others. The children of Israel had to do it otherwise they were curse and would be out to death. You are under grace which means you can give whatever amount money you desire. Give as the Lord has prospered you, but you cannot call it a TITHE. Tithing had everything to do with produce and livestock and several other items, but it was never money. Yes they had money in ancient times. There's an instance in the Bible where God told the children of Israel that if they didn't have items to tithe with, then they had to buy tithes with money in the marketplace before coming to the temple. Money was never a tithable commodity ever.
@@jenniferwest3282 we are under grace so we should be blessed for giving. Tithing was part of the Mosaic Law and therefore you must follow all of the 613 law at all times, no exceptions.
I don't care about any of that. I will tithe because I feel it is right for me. You can call it whatever you want and honestly as long as it is from faith it isn't a sin, therefore not worth debating about. Follow your convictions as I follow mine.
I’m glad Pastor came clean. The problem I have with the saints of God is that we pray for people to repent, and to correct things that are wrong, but then we bash them after they do. And we make statements like “He’s only doing it because”. Do you know that for sure? Allow the man to be forgiven. The Bible speaks against some of the bashing that we are doing as well. Remember you had to be forgiven too. You had to correct some things too. Let the man continue in his deliverance. Is there something that still needs to be corrected in you? Can you really throw stones? Pray for the man. Handle in love as the bible instructs. It’s so easy to do the opposite. He gets forgiveness just like we do! I forgive him! I gave and was blessed because I gave from the heart! God blessed me! But now we know the truth so walk in it! And praise God that our brother admitted his wrong! It’s our responsibility as well to search the word out for ourselves! So he cant be blamed for it all. There are a lot of things that The Bible does not teach that we grew up on as kids, and some of us are still speaking it and teaching it! For example; that there were three wisemen in the Bible that went to see the baby Jesus. But that is not true either, but every Christmas we tell the same story! And of course we know Christmas is not a biblical holiday but people still teach it every year! just giving an example, because there is so much more. The bottom line is the man is trying to correct it, and the difference between him and some of us he has a bigger platform so the micro scope is big on him, while some of our errors are Less visible because we don’t have the platform that he does but we have taught a lot of things wrong ourselves. Thanks for this video Allan!! Always enjoy your teachings!
No Cynthia. He is not ordained of God, neither are all the other prosperity preaching, name~it~’n’ claim it, blab~it ‘n’~grab~it. so called ministers of God.
Cynthia, you are spot on. The guy repented. And not only that, but repudiates his own teaching publicly. Very few of us would have that kind of humility. I think the host needs to be careful he's not walking in pride. One good indicator of pride is fault finding., of which this video is guilty. God bless you pastor $$. Being a Pastor is a huge responsibility before God, and I pray for your that you fully discharge your responsibility with all due care and self introspection. We must all stand before the judgement seat one day. And I know you will receive a good report from the Lord in your time.
@@savedbygrace8445 He may not be, and I don’t recall anywhere in my response saying that he is. I’m stating the fact that the man repented. Allow deliverance to come from WHATEVER it is that he needs deliverance from. I’m sure this is just the beginning of God tearing a whole lot of things off of HIM, and some OTHERS as well. Let him go through the process of ALL that needs to be changed in him. I know when God changed me it was a process that did not all happen in one setting! I’m not going to debate whether he is name it claim it grab it or stab it!! I’m CHOOSING to forgive a man like someone forgave me. And I’m choosing to allow him to walk out his deliverance like I had to. And I have a feeling there will be MORE TO COME! My job is to forgive, and pray and let God be the FINAL JUDGE. There are a lot of things that I SEE AND HEAR, and if it doesn’t line up with Gods word I have LEARNED TO check it out against the word for MYSELF. But right now… I’m CHOOSING to forgive. Bless God, and bless you. Love in Jesus!
Shalom Brother Allen! I'm so glad to see more people paying closer attention! Once again, your teaching is appreciated. I'm sure I'd never win any popularity contest because of my discernment in not following the crowd. Thank you for carefully dissecting part by part. It is well worth our time to continue learning. Hallelujah ✝️
Yes! I grew up hearing about tithing. My pastor now is VERY vocal on tithing and denies it as an Old Testament practice. End of the day, I try to follow the word of God and let the Holy Spirit lead. Sometimes that’s meant giving a lot (wooooo uncomfortable lol-but I do it) and sometimes it’s not a lot. But I definitely don’t respond to pulpit pressure. As far as prosperity gospel, if God gave me Jesus and NOTHING ELSE, he’s given me plenty! Thanks for the vid, bruh. Always a pleasure!
ADRIAN Tristsn your pastor is a lier and the truth is not in him Tithings is in the old testament to any one who says its not is from the pits of Hell or anyone who says don't give a tenth it was only for the Jews that's from the pits of hell people who don't want to give has an issue with a portion of God's that evil.
Pastor John Grey was first pastor to expose these pastors taking money from people when he became pastor of a church in South Carolina in 2019 and he told the congregation to come down and get this money back out of this tithing tray cause all we have done was take your money when you needed it to take care of your children and family and we just did was take it and lived a good life. I was shocked to see him admit it but it was time for these pastors and churches to be exposed for what they doing in darkness cause now it coming to light cause after John Grey stated about the tithes then came his affair and him and his wife exposed that in front of their congregation along with John Grey not being sincere at wanting to be a pastor.
Yes, and no one wants to believe he is sincere about it. They are still judging & skewering him over his past beliefs & teachings. God help us if we never grow & change in the Lord & what we believe. So many entrenched in other wrong belief systems that don't care to look at & reconsider. We are all guilty at some point of wrong beliefs.
So what happens to those who died under his ministry without been saved then as you do admit he wasn't preaching grace. So he has blood in his hands then.
I am rejoicing over this! Creflo still has a way to go, but I can see him returning to his roots. AMEN!!! I used to watch Creflo over 20 yrs ago. He was one of the people God led me to in my early walk. He helped me see the pure, complete freedom in salvation through Christ. He truly ministered the gospel, was a different preacher back then. I watched his demise into prosperity and power over the yrs. This is truly a joyous moment for me! Thank you Lord! May he continue to seek your truth ONLY!
Deana Scott--Oh my goodness I posted Thursday almost word for word your post! All what you said sounds like I posted it! Scott is in my DNA maybe we distant kin lol! Whew. Amazing! God bless you! 🙌🏾
God showed me creflo dollar over 20 years ago as well. deana.. i like how you said that the Lord is bringing him back to his roots.. ahhh good one lass.. bless you for that.. x helena
Let us see who can now *argue against tithing* after this reply I just sent my siblings who were still trying to discredit tithing as "an old testament law of Moses that no longer applies to us". I replied: You missed the most important verse in Acts 15! Verse 21: “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to [ *START* by only immediately obeying these first few OLD TESTAMENT laws of Moses to] abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 [THEN AS THEY ATTEND CHURCH EVERY WEEK THEY WILL LEARN MORE LAWS OF MOSES AND BE ABLE TO OBEY THEM WITH SPIRITUAL MATURITY, INCLUDING THE LAW OF TITHING] because the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and it IS READ [OUT LOUD TO TEACH BELIEVERS GOD'S LAWS] in the synagogues on every Sabbath (church service).” So there you have it!!!! Christians were and ARE expected to learn the laws of Moses and obey them, as they grow in the knowledge of God's laws by *BIBLE STUDY*. Therefore the law of tithing is included in Acts 15, without having to be specifically mentioned. There were about 613 laws of Moses. They just picked the most important ones for the new gentile converts to start obeying IMMEDIATELY, which are LAWS OF MOSES, and they expected them to learn the rest by attending church every week where the full laws of Moses is read. This is also confirmed by Jesus Christ Himself, that YOU SHOULD OBEY THE LAWS OF MOSES (which includes tithing) when Jesus INSTRUCTS US: "The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. [So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach.]" Matthew 23:2-3 *THERE YOU HAVE IT FROM THE MOUTH OF JESUS HIMSELF. LEARN THE LAWS OF MOSES. YOU MUST TITHE IF YOU WANT TO OBEY GOD.* However I doubt that you will go to hell if you don't tithe, BUT TITHE! Jesus said "If you love me keep My commandments! Whoever [MAKES THE EFFORT TO LEARN] My commandments and [OBEY] them is the one who loves Me. John 14:15,21 So learn about tithing and TITHE! 😀
@@HasanUnknown I'm sorry but I do not agree with your words. I believe Christ is part of the holy Trinity, is God, and I will never believe anything otherwise after my personal experiences with Him. May you be blessed beyond measure and thank you for sharing your faith!
Great session and clarification. I love how you ended with if it is not in the Bible then you should not believe it. This has really helped me clarify what God has been telling me for years. My fear is gone now.
I notice that all the prosperity millionaire preachers don’t ever say “the church is beyond blessed, this week give to your neighbor in need what you would’ve tithed”. Not once.
I've heard that ALL MY LIFE and I'm 53..It's still being preached in churches Right Now! My hubsand and I always have the discussion when my pastor use Malachi 3:9and you can tell when Pastor is speaking about it's like a scare tactic being used. AWESOME VIDEO
Yup ! I came from a church that preached just like that every single Sunday during offering they read Malachi 3:9 & 2 Corinthians about being a cheerful giver. Which are technically 2 different things. They said we would be cursed and wonder why things don’t workout in our life and saying it’s because we don’t give. I gave out of obligation and nothing happened.
THEY ALL USE MALACHI BUT FIRST THIS WAS REGARDING ISRAEL. IF YOU GO TO LEVITICUS IT PLAINLY STAES TITHING IS THE LAND, THE CROPS THE FRUIT OF THE TREES. TITHING WAS FOR THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD ONLY. THE LEVITES HAD THE LEAST OF THE TRIBES SO THE TITHES WERE FOR THEM. YESHUA NEVER GAVE OR ACCEPTED TITHES BECAUSE HE WAS FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, PAUL WAS FROM THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN SO HE COULDNT ACCEPT TITHES EITHER. THERE IS NOT 1 SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS MONEY IS TO BE THE TITHE IN THE TORAH OR THE NEW TESTAMENT.. THIS IS HOW THESE PREACHERS TODAY HAVE MILLION DOLLAR HOMES, 100,000 DOLLAR CARS AND SOME HAVE THEIR OWN JETS WORTH TENS OF MILLIONS SMH.
When reading Malachi 3:9 with care, it speaks about the Holy Spirit and how He will be poured out on mankind. He is described as the "latter rain" The first fruits of God is Jesus, who is the "tithe", who was given up to God. And God through this, opened up the "flood gates of heaven" by pouring out His precious spirit.
I Tithe out of obedience and because I love God. I've never had lack in doing so. I reverence God and fear Him. But, because He first loved me, I love Him.
The beauty of Dr. Dollar's ministry, and I don't care what anyone has to say about him, I know for a personal fact that he is a man who teaches what he believes to be truth as he was taught it. And when he gets to a place where what he believed to be true at one point, does not line up with what he learns to be true after the fact, he changes his position and goes with the new truth. There is nothing wrong with being wrong about God and His ways. We are all feeling after the invisible God. We are all trying to get to know Him/Her/Them better. no one person has God totally figured out. We all know Him fragmentarily and His ways just the same. It in very admirable that as a preacher who taught one thing one way pretty much his entire ministry, to now stand before the same people and say "yeah, I think I had it wrong"! Most will criticize him for teaching a mistruth in the first place, instead of see that he is an honorable man who can admit that he had it wrong as a pastor and decide to teach more accurately!
Wow!Well put!I saw a sermon by a guest at his church that the alter call was to repent from being a spoiled self centered BRAT,and Creflo was the first one to the alter!!At his own church!Takes a special man to do that,and i’ve been saved and active for 15 years,long enough to know truth when i see it.Gnight’,from Bastrop,Texas!…Brent
So you believe as well in what you sow you shall reap? So how can he be preaching an believe in abortion and get paid to act like he didn't see Stacy Abraham sitting in the church when the caramel was set on her the entire time. An which she say she's a Christian as well but believe in abortion an there is.more than 2 genders. So is that of God an where in the Bible it says in the garden of eden there is more than 2 genders. Please elaborate for me .
@@marcusbanks1897 With all due respect, I have no idea what you are talking about.. Pastor Dollar has NEVER claimed he supported abortion as far as I know! Nor has he ever said he supports the idea that there are more than two genders! So I am not sure what you need elaboration of?!
@@omgsaintchris I understand most of these mega churches aren't there for the people it's more for the money sometimes just sit back an watch how people really are they say an preach one thing an live another.
I didn’t think I would have the attention span for this video but I listened to this from beginning to end. This was truly captivating and informative! I love how you just break things down using the basics and Bible evidence. I felt like lightbulbs were going off in my brain several times. Thank you Bro Allen!!
I love when someone publicly and openly apologizes for their mistakes, and the look on the faces of those who realized they were so gullible. Discernment is discipline and some people will not use discernment! Let them be publicly wrong when their leaders are apologetic! Discernment is everything people, use it in everything.
Creflo hasn't apologized about nothing are you blind? All he did is just confused you more.. This so-called host on this podcast could have straightened it out and he didn't, he just confused you more.. He could have told you what (Malachi 3:9-10) meant he was talking about (FOOD)🍞🥩🐄 not money💰 and he didn't.. then he tried to drag Jesus into it and say that Jesus was talking about tithing in that verse.. I can say Jesus was talking about slavery (Luke 12:41-48) take it any way you want too🤔
All these prosperity preachers will have to give an answer to God , for using His Words to manipulate the church to build their wealth so that they and their families can live a lavish life style. He talks about the things including cars that he gave away; yes, he gave them away so that the church can buy him newer and more expensive ones. These pastors need to get a 8 - 4 job. He needs to give away much more to the poor and and maybe just not to his partners in crime. Coming on the air to announced it is not scriptural.The speaking in tongue us so fake. Church it's time to wake up out of your slumber. Study God's Word and ask God for wisdom and a spirit of discernment, so as not to be deceived. May God help us all.
I am glad you have exposed this insidious doctrine. We were in bondage for many years to this false doctrine, however, I was to blame for allowing myself to be spoon-fed and not studying the scriptures for myself (Acts 17:11 like a faithful Berean). We left the church after being spiritually abused. As a result, we stayed home for several years without going to any church but God showed us that you can’t buy God’s blessing. We prayed to the Lord about buying a home, and we purchased a home several thousand pounds below the market value without belonging to a church. We now practice free-will giving as taught by the apostle Paul, knowing that we are complete in Christ, and we don’t worship out of fear of a Mafia-type God who would harm us if we did not tithe.
Well, I don't support this guy on this podcast either he's like those other (Pulpit Pimps) trying to claim Jesus supported tithing.. I can also say Jesus supported slavery (Luke 12:4148)🤯
I blamed myself too cause it took me a one hour study to see it. I worked with a founding pastor of a church for nine years, I was tech lead and attended staff, pastor's/ministers meetings and saw how the "dish was prepared" I made decisions that affected the church and it's branch churches. I saw how things happen and heard how it was relayed to the people. I developed the ability to, from one or two sentences in my pastors messages know his intensions and what he is planning to do 3-6 months before he announces it to anyone in church. I was also spiritually and psychologically abused which led to my leaving the church in may 2020. i tried to attend two other churches without being "committed" and quickly realised that most of these "pastors" are about the Benjamins. So i stopped attending any church since may 2021. And i can tell you that Creflo Dollar just didn't find this out about tithing, he probably already knew this and didn't bother cause tithing benefitted him greatly. The only reason he's talking about this right now is because people now know the truth about tithing. He's weighed his options and figured he could still retain some credibility and keep his people loyal if he jumps on the "tithing is old testament" train before its too late. He knows if one person figures it out, others will and when they do, they're not going to be very happy about it.
yes we have to take accountability for our continuing to be under this type of teaching on an ongoing basis. it comes to a point where i say: when am i going to stop listening and start opening up my own bible and study what says the Lord?
@@donstrong1717 🥱. Believers in God know He'll be the Destroyer of the universe, someday. We have to work with Him regardless of the things that don't sound good. Also, don't make it sound like God is anti-Emancipation Proclamation or whatever. It's not like that.
Here's the thing about tithing... the purpose is to financially support the church and give sacrifically as Christ gave to us. In my spiritual walk with Christ 10% is the minimum. If you have been walking spiritually with Christ for a while now and still grudgingly give $5 when you make thousands, then you need to check your heart. Christ gave us EVERYTHING. We are sustained. Give as much as you can, you will be fine. Once we have the heart of Christ, material things like money become less important.
I like this style of video, and the longer videos where you get into the nitty gritty (I prefer these over shorter videos personally). This is an important topic. Well done brother Allen. I’d love to see more videos of this length digging into different books of scripture.
Raised in Pentecostal church. The Lord really touched a lot of people in that little church. He sure touched me. ❤ Will always love those crazy" lil grandma's and pastor's who were filled with the Holy Spirit and who spoke in tongues. I saw a lot of healing and people were set free from all sorts of oppressions through Jesus Christ. God uses those crazy, uneducated, ignorant, folks.😇 Maybe its because they have just faith in Jesus and believe. 💙🙏🏻🕊Praise God! Love you all!
Thank you so much for this...I asked the Lord to reveal the truth of tithing to me along time ago...Got hurt big time in the church behind tithing. Thank you Lord ...God bless you , your family and your channel.
If you’ve been looking for a reason not to tithe, there you go. Work out your own salvation. I was $23,000 dollars in debt to the IRS. Had been thinking about tithing and figured this was as good a time as any. Started tithing, and within a year’s time aLL of that debt was gone and I was in Rome, Italy with my daughter treating her to an unforgettable 21st birthday celebration. Last year, my place of employment had a wage freeze where you couldn’t get the usual 2% raise. I received a 21% raise along with my promotion at that time. Right in that same timeframe where you couldn’t get a 2% raise, my raise was 21%! Not a typo. My daughter just received a hUge raise at work. My health is great, my family’s heath is great. I just upgraded my recording studio into a dream setup. I was so broke it wasn’t a joke. I started tithing and that really changed in a biG way. If you feel not under obligation to tithe then that’s on you. I already know what happens when I don’t tithe. That’s not fear based, it’s experience based. And it’s tithes aNd offerings. So God did not set a limit on your giving. Nice try. Lol This is teaching that you can give anything and it’s cool. That’s not putting God 1st. I think the blessing comes from putting God first, not from the number. And it’s about sacrifice. Yeah it was really hard to tithe sometimes but I stuck with it. I made and continue to make that sacrifice and I’m being blessed in many different ways. It’s up to you. Giving God what you have left might not work out for you. I’ll tell you what; check with Him.
Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. Happy for you friend. I 100% agree with you put God first above all else he clearly says it in his word. The Bible is complex that’s why it gets misinterpreted so much but like you said if you have a real connection and relationship with the Lord, you will be able to work out your walk with the lord in this life and the next ! Many more blessing to you and your family brother
If you add up all that they were required to give in the OT then it was closer to 20-25%. If you are attempting to tithe as in the OT then you would need to send the first 10% to the Levites and fill in the other 15% with your church and charitable giving. We are still called to give, and I'd argue more, but the 10% tithe was a part of the priesthood system. They no longer are the mediator for us today, and actually never were for gentiles. Give freely out of love, and yes, Good will bless you, but you won't be cursed if you don't give 10%. Curses no longer stand on the Christian because "cursed is he who hangs on a tree" Galatians 3:13
@@oopsisolditagain4191 Yet Abraham gave Melchizedek, a priest of God, a tenth of the spoils, before the law. In Malachi offerings were written of, for compare a poor man giving a tenth and a rich man giving a tenth, and what each has left over. When you live by the Spirit, you know what God requires of you.
This is amazing! If this guy continues to study the Scriptures carefully, he might renounce his entire theology and become a true Christian!!! I hope he continues to search the Scriptures.
We are supposed to give cheerfully in tithes and offerings. Grace giving? Another made up term for itching ears. Did you know grace means having the divine influence upon the heart and it's reflection in our life? That is undeserved, and no divine influence upon the heart, no salvation. That's the problem, you think it's your ministry, but it is God's. Only what we do for the Lord shall last. Plenty of social missions, what about spiritual ones? Have you ever taught and believed Ephesians 2:10? Do you know that is a result of Ephesians 2:8,9? No verse 10, you don't have 8 nor 9, either. No grace by faith, you won't do what God put in you. And I typed what grace is. At least you sound like fair man, but don't fear the people, for His own will hear from Him. And don't you know God will protect you from the enemies? Praise God.
I love your commentary/ teaching. This is just a reminder to the believers to read the Bible for yourself and don't look to man for all the answers and guidance. Pay attention! Thank you sir!
I'm questioning whether or not any of you Christians read your Bible! If you read your Bible you wouldn't have been scammed by these (Pulpit Pimps) like you have on tithing.. They were able to do a bait-and-switch on (Malachi 3: 9-10) he was talking about (food), (food)🍞🥩🐄 not money💰and you couldn't see that?🤔
Yes this has been my experience with giving. The Holy Spirit tells me how much to give, sometimes it was my whole check. We also must listen the Holy Spirit tells us to give to others needs. Many times in my life I had to bless others and that was beyond my tithe. Trust God, he will always supply your need when you fall in line with his instructions.
Always tithe where the 5 fold Ministries is being practiced. Meaning if you need the Church Family will give back, whatever righteous and keep reading God's Word 🙏 🙌..Our eyes are being opened and we must ask God Our Father for discernment
I agree I've always gave according to the spirit and yes sometimes it may be your whole check as the saints in the new testament sold everything they had.
Of course, great reaction. What I see is God pulling & tugging on Creflo’s heart enlightening him to the truth. Creflo is still one foot in & one foot out. Prayerfully he’ll continue to relinquish.
Man keep doing what you're doing. Thanks so much, at last, my spiritual ears and eyes are opened.... For a very long time, I have searched answers to this topic. Glory be to God.
There’s nothing wrong brother Allen. I get that spontaneous ‘speaking in tongues’! He spoke in ‘tongues’ for a split of second. I am not yet blessed with the gift of speaking in tongues but I have been overwhelmed thinking of God’s love and forgiveness for me that I’ll burst out in tears or yoked trying to express the joy I’m feeling…that’s exactly what’s happening here! U sounded like a Pharisee when u criticized him on that point.🤷🏽♀️I’m so glad he (Creflo) made this correction in front of his congregation. God bless him in Jesus’ Name!🙏🏽🙌🏾🙏🏽
Tongues is mostly fake. My wife speaks in tongues, which sounds authentic. However, what I mostly hear from most preachers sounds faker than fake. Especially from Copeland and Duplantis.
This was such a great topic. I think it's very important to add that tithing into good soil is key. We don’t want to tithe into ministeries where the Clergy’s pockets are getting fat and they are driving lavish cars, taking dream vacations and the communities in that city are suffering. I want to tithe in good soil, because it can help bring people into the body of Christ.
Not only that, but when the congregation has to put in extra offerings so one can live lavishly and then suffer lack in paying their bills, it is not right. I have no problem with a preacher being rich, if he or she is serving God in truth. In large congregations, it happens, many in the congregation. But if they are constantly asking for more and when they get it, it shows up in finer things for themselves...while the people suffer basic needs, it isn't right. I do not believe God would want us in that church, unless it's to say something, and if it doesn't change, we should leave. There is a fine line on this, so one must hear from God on how much to give and when. And, while providing for the community, is the true gospel being preached? If not, it will profit them nothing in eternity, and worse. We must be in the ministry God leads us to, to serve Him in Spirit and in truth. It is part of salvation.
Yes! I experienced tithing in bad soil because I didn't know. I was new to the faith. I was so desperate to learn about Jesus, and it was my first church home. But the Lord covered me because he knew I didn't know a lot about tithes and I was willing to give. One day He opened my eyes and put in my spirit that this church is not for you and your tithe is not going into good soil. The church leaders started to compromise. And it hurt the whole church. As soon as I started tithing in good soil, all I can say is wow.
You're not to "tithe" at all. Tithing is a tradition of men. Jesus saw how greedy religious leaders were/are and He admonished us to see to it that no man deceive us. Those who preach the prosperity gospel have to trick you into giving 10% of your money to them. That is how they look prosperous and the gimmick works. Jesus was against these men.
Oh yes, I'm becoming someone that doesn't expect God to bless me materially or on earth when i give, but my tithe will definitely not go to waste it better go help people in actual need.
Brother Allen, I love when you simply teach the word of God and break down scripture or even videos like this where you dissect the word of God for us! Keep doing more videos like these. You are truly gifted! 👏🙏🏽
Wow!! Thank you Jesus for speaking through Pastor Parr! I am so glad you brought this topic up! A long time ago I prayed Solomon’s prayer in 1 Kings 3:9 which says “Give me an understanding heart so that I can govern your people well and know the difference between right and wrong”. I’ve been asking the Lord to teach me the difference between right and wrong for years. And he has! It has led me to stop following MANY famous pastors due to their sermons on tithing, (amongst their other sermons). When the Holy Spirit nudges you and something doesn’t sound biblical, DO NOT ignore that feeling. I live in Dallas, TX aka “the Bible Belt”, so you name the church, I’ve been to it and when these churches talked about tithing and giving, (amongst other sermons) I knew something wasn’t right. Just because everybody else in the crowd is “amen-ing”, doesn’t mean you do. I have never had a problem with giving but I’ve been tithing my entire Christian life out of fear and ROUTINE; both NOT the reasons one should give. I’ve read the verses, meditated, studied, and prayed for the Lord to help me understand tithing and giving and BAM! This video was the cherry on top! Thank you!
My husband and I were aware of this years ago, I had read a book called THE LIE OF THE TITHE. We didn't stop giving. Our giving actually lined up with New Testament Scriptures that encouraged Believers to give according to the abundance that God has blessed you with. And if you give, give out of a heart that is thankful. A grateful heart. But using fear to motivate, we have been released from that supposed threat a long time ago. I will tell you that my mother who watched a program on T.V.and sent her tithe to the couple. BUT my mother's income was extremely low and according to the Word, the Church should have been supporting her. NOT requiring her to give the meager $30 dollars a month and she couldn't even get by. Thankfully our family was taught to help each other in need.
True preachers use the Bible to preach. Tithes and offerings is in it. There are spiritual consequences that extend to our physical lives. Tithing is not a law, it is what Abraham gave Melchizedek, a tenth, before the law. Melchizedek is a type of Christ, signifying what we should give to God, a tithe, tenth, PLUS offerings. Many preachers will highly pressure their people for tithes and offerings, especially the phonies. The true preachers will do it to make the congregation realize God requires it. So seek God on your offerings, because the tithe is of God. It is no surprise in these last of the last days that many will fall away, including in tithes and offerings, insisting that battered and wrong people cannot remarry, the first wife lie, they're divorced, single, cannot divorce, all sorts of bondage to the law. But we see, the tithe, the tenth, is not in the law. .
If her tithe was 30 dollars, she made 300 dollars. If 30 was all she made, she should have given 3. If she was in need, you resent making it up? It is not the church's responsibility to give her income. She obeyed the tithe commandment, Malachi 3 which is not about law, but Melchizedek, and you're complaining? She may prosper spiritually while you decline spiritually. It's all God's money. He always makes a way, but not always for doubters.
@@michaelalbertson7457 At what point in the bible did God or Jesus ever ask anyone for their money and at what point was any tithe received from earned wages?
@@markb7067 Well, in the Bible, Malachi 3, God had written down the consequences of giving, and not giving, a tithe and offerings. Jesus did not mention tithes and offerings, nor did He annul them. We know tithes came pre law and that Abraham gave a tenth to Melchizedek. Only big churches can survive on any percentage of giving, but the small true churches not in a denomination, need tithes and offerings to operate. Therefore it does not seem unreasonable to give tithes and offerings. The New Testament says to joyfully give. I took that as, even though many times it was hard to give so much, God would take care of me if I gave joyfully. But many churches, big and small, abuse tithes and offerings, so tithes and offerings get a bad reputation. The practical side of me says, What if Malachi 3 is right for today and I don't give that way? It's too much of a risk to not give tithes and offerings, for today and for eternity. The practical and spiritual side of me says, tithes and offerings is right because the church has to operate without going into debt. I've always been in small churches, except one big one. The big one didn't ask for extra offering unless they had a building fund, etc. Not much pressure at all. Small churches are different, a lot of needs. What really matters to me, no matter how much I give, living godly is paramount. Also if we cast our bread on the waters, after many days it will come back to us, and other scriptures stating if we believe we will receive. God has always taken care of me, and I've always given tithes and offerings. One thing this generation does not consider is when this country was much more godly, tithes and offerings were taught in practically all the churches. Many, many think they are wiser than the elders. And God did not seem to rebuke those churches back then for tithes and offerings. This goes back over 300 years in America. But many of you all call God's word bondage. It's because you are in bondage to the pleasures of this world rather than lovers of God. You figure godliness is material gain. Spiritual gain, yes, and then the material gain, as God ordained for you, will follow. And that depends on your obedience to God's word that He spoke to you, not you picking out the scriptures that you like and telling God He has to do it that way. Maybe He will, but whatever happens, God's will was done. Get closer to Him in obedience and He will reveal to you what you need to know. A deceiving spirit has crept into the church in this area as well as other areas concerning what God requires of us. Beware.
My grandma used to say I give them my tithes and they get richer.....that happens here where I live still so much that they own horses now and are the richest family in town.people got to wake up.
Thank you for the time and energy that you put into this video and for bringing much needed biblical clarity to a highly misunderstood and often abused doctrine. Your passion for truth and your love for God's people is evident in all of your videos! In response to the question posted in the title of the video (Did Creflo Dollar REALLY Repent From Teaching the False Doctrine of Tithing?) I would sadly have to conclude that, after watching Creflo"s sermon, I do not believe that he truly repented from his false/erroneous teaching. The following two reasons that brought me to this conclusion are: 1) In the early portion of his sermon, Creflo said that he will not apologize. Which, to me, is an indication that he is not truly remorseful for the many years that his false/erroneous teaching profited financially through the sale of books, CD;s, and tithing. To say that He will not apologize because if it wasn't for him going down that route, he wouldn't have ended up where he is right now (video 4:15), hints at an issue of pride and an unwillingness to admit how much financial and practical damage his teachings on this topic has caused many, many others in the body of Christ. Which leads me to my second reason for coming to the conclusion as to why I do not believe that Creflo truly repented. 2) Creflo never made any mention of making any financial restitution towards the many that purchased the reading and study materials that pertained to his false/erroneous teaching. All he mentioned in his sermon was to tell the many people who purchased his teaching material, to throw away everything he ever taught on the subject of tithing (video 4:30). To suggest this to people, without even so much as a hint at attempting to make some sort of financial restitution, comes across as highly insensitive. Especially when a person is advised to throw away an item that was purchased with their hard-earned money. Now, with regards to restitution, this is a concept conveyed in both the OT and NT. www.gotquestions.org/restitution-Bible.html Repentance followed by restitution, wherever possible, is an indicator of genuine repentance. Lastly, while it might be practically impossible to return every single dime to the people who purchased his material and who tithed for many years, there honestly should be some attempt at bearing some fruit in keeping with repentance in this area. As of today, I have not heard any reports about the $27 Million Creflo Dollar Ministries moving forward to offer some kind of financial restitution to the hard working brothers and sisters in the body of Christ who purchased many of his study materials on tithing. (Please feel free to correct or update me if I am wrong about this). And that is just sad to me. Therefore, these are the reasons I sadly concluded that Creflo Dollar did not 'REALLY repent from teaching the false doctrine of tithing.'
You have a Pharisitical attitude. There's no requirement for restitution under repentance, none! Don't invent satanic doctrine like an 'old son' that you appear to be. An old son who held a grudge against his young brother when he returned home to his father. You are the one who should repent. If you gave all those monies, did you give them to Creflo or to God? If you gave them to Creflo, you have proven him correct about this fake tithing doctrine, because it would be an admission of the monies going to Pastors' pockets, but not to the church nor God. If you gave out of obedience to God, then why would you expect a pay back from him? This is too cheap! Have you asked a criminal to return all the loot from his victims? Or one who repents after murdering people, do you ask him to resurrect all those people he murdered? Your logic is flawed and one wonders if you are a true Christian. Pharisitical people like you make me sick! This is because you're the ones whose unGodly teachings keep weakening the church from the inside. The church is becoming impotent because of your kind.
@@HlubiNgwane Good morning. Thank you for your response. Before I go any further I would like to apologize to you and anyone who may have taken my views on this situation as offensive. Secondly, and more importantly, I apologize for not using Scripture to defend my position regarding the close connection between repentance and restitution. My aim here now is to show that restitution is a biblical concept and not one that stems from a "Pharisaical attitude." In Exodus 22:1,3-6,14 we read, 'Whoever steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters it or sells it must pay back five head of cattle for the ox and four sheep for the sheep... Anyone who steals must certainly make restitution, but if they have nothing, they must be sold to pay for their theft. If the stolen animal is found alive in their possession-whether ox or donkey or sheep-they must pay back double. If anyone grazes their livestock in a field or vineyard and lets them stray and they graze in someone else’s field, the offender must make restitution from the best of their own field or vineyard. If a fire breaks out and spreads into thornbushes so that it burns shocks of grain or standing grain or the whole field, the one who started the fire must make restitution... If anyone borrows an animal from their neighbor and it is injured or dies while the owner is not present, they must make restitution." (Exodus 22) Also in Leviticus 6:2-5 we read, "If anyone sins and is unfaithful to the Lord by deceiving a neighbor about something entrusted to them or left in their care or about something stolen, or if they cheat their neighbor, or if they find lost property and lie about it, or if they swear falsely about any such sin that people may commit- when they sin in any of these ways and realize their guilt, they must return what they have stolen or taken by extortion, or what was entrusted to them, or the lost property they found, or whatever it was they swore falsely about. They must make restitution in full, add a fifth of the value to it and give it all to the owner on the day they present their guilt offering." Now, I understand if your response to these verses is that they are coming from the Old Testament and that we are no longer under the law. Since this is the common objection anytime someone uses a passage from the OT to defend their position, I want to use a New Testament passage to show that restitution is a Biblical concept found there as well. In Luke 19:1-9 we read, "Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. He wanted to see who Jesus was, but because he was short he could not see over the crowd. So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way. When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.” So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly. All the people saw this and began to mutter, “He has gone to be the guest of a sinner.” But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.” Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham." (Luke 19) Now, if restitution was not something that one should not consider to undertake whenever possible, surely Jesus would've taught that in this passage by rebuking Zacchaeus for having a Pharisaical attitude when he offered to pay back 4X the amount that he may have wrongly cheated anybody of. But, Jesus did not do that here. Will one accuse Jesus of having a Pharisaical attitude? I would hope not. Again, my aim here is not to add fuel to the fire or to sow any seeds of discord among us. My only aim is to apologize for not using Scripture to defend my position in my original post and to show us that restitution is indeed a biblical concept and not always one that is stemming from a heart that is trapped in legalism. I will end with the following quote, "Zacchaeus repented, and his sincerity was evident in his immediate desire to make restitution. Here was a man who was penitent and contrite, and the proof of his faith in Christ was his resolve to atone, as much as possible, for past sins. The same holds true for anyone who truly knows Christ today. Genuine repentance leads to a desire to redress wrongs. When someone becomes a Christian, he will have a desire born of deep conviction to do good, and that includes making restoration whenever possible. The idea of “whenever possible” is crucially important to remember. There are some crimes and sins for which there is no adequate restitution. In such instances, a Christian should make some form of restitution that demonstrates repentance, but at the same time, does not need to feel guilty about the inability to make full restitution. Restitution is to be a result of our salvation-it is not a requirement for salvation. If you have received forgiveness of sins through faith in Jesus Christ, all of your sins are forgiven, whether or not you have been able to make restitution for them." - Got Questions (What Does the Bible Say About Restitution?) My prayer is that the Lord would cause His people to grow us into brothers and sisters that are willing to dialogue in a manner that honors Him and that truly shows that we are His disciples by the way we love one another (John 13:35). Heritage_RSA, if you are a believer, I never want to offend you in any way and I am sorry if I did. All I desire is that the Holy Spirit would use opportunities like this to grow us into the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and to conform us into His image. May His holy and inerrant Word be what shapes our interactions, thoughts, opinions, and choices, more and more, each day. Please pray that I would grow into the type of believer that will always allow the authority of Scripture to be my standard and to correct me whenever I am wrong or have wronged anyone. Thank you. Have a blessed day in the Lord.
What's funny is they will use the commandments and old testament scriptures to TITHE but NOT to KEEP the seventh day Sabbath.LOLOL !! They CHOOSE the commandments that they want to keep or teach !
Great teaching, MOG!!! I’m starting to rethink on this issue. I got to go deeper. Thanks for the information! God bless you, your family and your ministry! 🙏🏽❤️
Praise the Lord! I’ve haven’t watched your program for awhile or been to service for a while bu due to the pandemic and I suffered a stroke to add to my mid fortune, but I thank God for his word and the encouragement you give I’m want to press for the mark. I feel more encouraged. Thanks
I believe it’s ok that you give a tenth and even call it tithe. It’s not ok that it’s taught and someone says God requires it. For years I attended a church that was very much for tithing. I now 100% believe that particular teaching was “off” and have come to see how weak the overall ministry of that church is.
This “Grace Giving,” he’s starting to transition to now is what I came to after being damaged by the fear based tithing doctrine. I even got evicted paying tithe instead of rent. I swear it’s left me with a spiritual PTSD as I try to reform my thinking. I’m glad Dollar is on the path to correct doctrine. This is why I’ve dedicated my ministry to exposing such things. Thanks for the commentary Alan.
You are NOT cursed because you do not tithe, God loves you even if you do not tithe….Not Tithing does not hinder your prayers….❤️ Give out of a cheerful heart, whatever that is.
Yeah, I thought giving was one of the gifts of The Spirit, I also thought not everyone gets all the gifts. If all should be giving, all should be teaching, all should be prophesying, etc. It's inconsistent to focus on just one gift of The Spirit, and of course it's the gift that charlatans can profit from.
This!! I went to a church where people would give their rent and mortgage as a tithe..now if God tells you to give that, He will speak to you directly. So glad I’m free from that teaching.
@@nikkistelly387 Right. When I started seeing that 1. The stuff they said would happen wasn’t. 2. God was still blessing and keeping me when I did what I could…Logically “something” had to be off.
Great discernment. You hit it right on target. He had me in the beginning but he lost me with the speaking in tongues and prosperity gospel. Let’s continue to pray for him because it seems like the Lord is working on him.
Bro. Allen, you're carrying on too much about speaking in tongues, Minister Dollar, didn't need an interpreter,, that was just a moment of the Holy Spirit exciting him with the true word of God. A form of praise, in an unknown language. Now if he was teaching about tithing in tongues, then yes, that would be a problem. Apparently, you never been moved by the Holy Spirit, in such a way, that it caused you to utter out a sound that you couldn't control with your own tongue. The problem you have is, you're trying to be in control of the words that are coming out of your mouth instead of letting the Spirit move within you. So if you can agree with the tithing, then surely you should be able to agree and understand there is an unknown tongue that doesn't require an interpreter, Minister Dollar was edified within himself by the power, the same power that guided him into the true knowledge of tithing. And that power being the Holy Ghost. Please don't make fun of someone speaking in an unknown tongue, because you may find yourself one day like Minister Dollar should the Spirit touch you in such a way. Be careful how you're judging a matter. Lastly, How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace! And today I found peace in the area of tithing ministered by you and Pastor Dollar. Now is there a way I can send you a a Love Offering. I have zelle.
I ask you guys pray for me I'm lost in sin.. I want to quit smoking and receive the spirit of Christ I've been saved and have strayed away from the path.. I ask you guys to keep me in your prayers I need help and healing.. I just want to be honest and need help being held accountable. I'm confused and lost.
The Lord Jesus will continue to help you and you will break out of that sin. You have overcome the world in Christ Jesus, the grace of God be with you 🙏
God is always there waiting for you. Just talk to him from your heart, repent and remain close to him. Jesus is your Saviour and He is even your very best friend. He will never leave you nor forsake you.
me too 😭 i don't usually share this online. however i feel the Holy Spirt bugging me to share this. please stop smoking 🚬 dont end up like me. i have terminal cancer lung and brain 🧠 . after my first set of radiation and chemo test test showed every shurnk. i give the Lord the credit which i told my drs. now im on maintenance chemo. I'm still tring to quit smoking. so please quit. with prayers 🙏 ❤️ and love!!!!!!
That's not biblical. No scripture says thay after you repent you have to go around righting all your wrongs. Imagine if God asks that OF YOU? We would fail every time
Great insightful teaching. When I hear tithing being taught in church, I close my mind to it. Thanks to you and other true bible teachers, I have become a Berean.🤗
I have been misled by the tithing ritual for a lot of years, I have listened to pastors speak in tongues with no translation for a lot of years, I have been taught prosperity gospel for a lot of years, and the 'excitement' of it was so great that I didn't check the word to see what it says 😥, but, thank You Holy Spirit and you brother for waking me, in Jesus name 🙏❤️
I could mention the Channel Belief It Or Not covering Tilthing, but not only is it way more pressing to mention his deeply-empathic and very-cmpassionate video 'Why Do I care'? from last Week, but also, i wanted y'all to hear the following at least Once in your Life: Every Holy Text in all of Existence makes clear: God is man-made. Hence why he only knows as much as those that made him up. No God/Holy-book has EVER known a single thing that the Humans worshipping said God did not know. GET THIS: The God of the bible is literally a flat-earther and obviously does not even know WHAT Stars are! He doesnt even know what Stars are BECAUSE the people who made... him... up... didnt know. This holds true 100 Percent. I cant stress this number of 100 enough: 100% of all Cases, Gods of all Religions have the IDENTICALLL Amount of Knowledge about the World that the People in that place happened to have. What a COINCIDENCE!!! This 100% Coincidence happens in Trillions over Trillions of Cases, which is Remarkable. If it didnt debunk God, the Coincidence-Amount Itself would PROVE GOD, haha.
I don't trust this guy he's not telling you the truth on tithing either! He tap dance around it, all he had to do was say Malachi 3: 9-10 was talking about (food)🍞🥩🐄 not money💰
I’ve been teaching this for some time. My biggest problem was the push back and criticism I received from fellow Christians. It’s sad there are so many who refuse to believe biblical truths. Even when the truth is revealed and right in front of you.
@@kidzrrelevant2593 🤣well that was a huge contradiction. You Christians don’t even know your own faith. You say if we were responsible for our salvation we would be damned unless we believe in Jesus. Now you’re saying as if Jesus isn’t part of your salvation at all since we have to be “responsible for our salvation” how tf are you going to lead people to Christ is you don’t understand your own salvation 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I'm a tither & I never lack because God is faithful to his word. I give 10% of all my income...not so much because my church needs it ect....but because I want to honor God with the first of everything, including my time and money. Ijs
When I got saved back in 1977, there were a lot of Prosperity teachers on TV, I almost went broke and lost faith because of lack of understanding!! Now after all these years, I have "studied' the Word and have seen the results of my giving to God biblically! Not out of fear or intimidation. I thank God for your mjnistry...may God continue to prosper you in all ways, even as your soul prospers.
I think there more prosperity preachers today . Now they added the Seed . But the seed is not money as you look in Lk. 8:11 the seed is the Word of God, not money
Good Afternoon Sir Brother Pharr, I love your teaching on this subject. I have been Pastoring 23 years and come to realize that, Paul taught it right by saying as the Lord bless us, we should give from heart. Sometimes that we be more than 10 percent.
If you see someone in line struggling to pay for groceries, help them. If you see someone at a bus stop (especially with a child) in the heat or in the cold, give them money to take a cab the next day. If you see someone that needs a coat or shoes, buy them some. Give your money directly to them, not a church. Churches are not good stewards of your money to help others. Plus, don’t tell ANYONE you have helped someone, or you will lose your reward from God. Your reward will only be those telling you what a good person you are for helping.
A sinner will never EVER out live a chosen one of God! Praise God! John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have ETERNAL LIFE."
I had always enjoyed Creflos' teachings in my early walk. The past decade I have passed on Creflo as my "go to" man of God. Something did not feel right in my Spirit as I grew in faith myself, and began to understand I have been given the gift of discernment. Now, I understand; confirmation. God bless Creflo for his repentence before God's people and extend him full grace. God Bless you, Allen Parr!!
Thank you so much for this. I do give a percentage of my income and have noticed over the years that whenever I have stopped, I notice a difference in my business . I believe that giving is necessary but it is something that is very hard for a lot of people because of fear that they won’t have enough. I trust that God will always provide for me and do my best to live a good life that honors and thanks Him. I really appreciate your ministry. I actually enjoy giving now and see it as a right use of money. It’s wonderful to be able to feel a spirit of generosity. That has come through giving money.
He was not boasting. About his giving. He was just explaining how blessed he was. He gives away and God blesses him. He did not mean that everyone should do what he did.
I attended his church but stopped going. Afterward, I realized most of his sermons were about prosperity. I pray he focuses on how to overcome the things of the world so his flock won’t perish.
I go to a church that at the beginning was feeding the my spirit it started to change and it's about money the whole service was almost about money and a little bit of Jesus and it bothered me to the point where I'm tired of listening I come to the house of God to encourage me keep me not to talk about finances it very discouraging
sir who are you giving things to? and why why should I give what I don't have ? this bible is differently a slaves books why I can't have a mind of my own why should pastor sits high while I am working so hard to makes ends meets with me and my family and give to pastors and their family who does not work kmt
Yes!!! This was great! My Grandfather was a pastor and my Grandmother was a missionary and we were raised to READ the BIBLE and get an understanding for YOURSELF! If it doesn't line up, question them or if need be remove yourself from that.
The Mrs. and I are looking to join a church, Love it there. One thing they say if we want to join is to pay a tithe. I must say, this vid did help a lot. Thanks so much Brother Allen. Your a true blessing
This video was amazing! Thank you so much Allen for sharing your knowledge and understanding of the word. I can’t really put into words what this video meant to me. Discernment into interpretation is so important. Your words explaining how I have felt about my own pastor is unbelievable and how God sends you exactly what I needed to hear (explanation) with your example of Pastor Creflo. So many preachers talking about your blessed life and curses makes me cringe. I have a dear friend that has been brainwashed in this theology. Sometimes with all their declaring and decreeing prayers I loose the meaning of if it’s God’s will it will happen. Also thank you for clarifying what the word of God says about speaking in tongues. Allen, once again thank you and I will continue to pray for your ministry 🙏🏼
I will continue to pay my 10%, until I hear from the Lord. I will also continue to help, however the Lord leads me to do financially. I love the Lord and there's no fear in love. I rather give my 10% and get to heaven and find out that I didn't have to than finding out otherwise. God bless you.
Is he going to give back any money that he received from the poor, the people who gave instead of buying groceries, or paid car note to get their children to doctors appts., to people who were swindled into putting money toward a jet that they would never have access to, or put money toward his mansion when they couldn't even pay their own house note... the damage has been do. Now that he's made all the money he wants, he chooses to say that tithing is a false teaching. He may play ya'll but he sure can't play The Most High YAH.
im at 15:22 , and i live in atlanta and was a member of his church what he's saying is that, there's no curse for those that chose not tithe but if you could become a cheerful giver like abraham did, which is from the heart.... God take notice of the conditioning of your heart
