Yeah, with the Kroot getting a range refresh and hopefuly the Vespids getting new models through this kill team kit. I'm hoping this means GW is putting more of a focus on the different species within the T'au empire and we may see some totally new alien models for the T'au faction sometime in the future
I feel like that's maybe the biggest strength of the tau Is the fact that they're a good place to put all the miscellaneous xenos That aren't big enough to get their own independent faction
When I played Tau all I built were crisis suits and core Tau units, ngl, Kroot and Vespids are stinky. I think using them as a dumping ground for xenos never worked out that well, they need a cool non-Tau showpiece model or two but I mean everyone said they should get a squat/demi-urge model for a long time too and Leagues of Votann speak for themselves, would they have been much more interesting in Tau? There is no synergy with Kroot and Tau, everyone just kinda keeps them around because they like the idea of them.
@@klaykid117 see I think it be cool if we make them simler to their in lore of being like the CIS or the Covanet, a massive diversity of Xeno and tech with one being the main force. Be epic and give so fun visuals for the army wheve it’s mixed or picking once group to build around
Valrak was teasing this for such a long time now. But to be fair to his doubters: it's such an obvious move to itnroduce new Vespids in a Kill Team box. It's like the perfect position for them as a product.
It is getting quite annoying that a lot of revamped units are coming out in much more expensive killteams, space marine scouts, striking scorpions, traitor guard, to name a few.
@@blizzardgaming7070 From the Kill Team perspective it's also kind of annoying that some teams which are obviously just 40k units rather than proper Kill Teams like in the past are being pushed through Kill Team. Mandrakes and Striking Scorpions being the biggest examples.
@@TheMarcosvolta I mean it's irritating that a 40k kit and and upgrade sprue are being packaged together and sold for £60 rather than just buying the kit and sprue for £45.
Yeah I’ve been saying this on my channel since last year, and I don’t have sources like Valrak - like you say, doesn’t take a genius to work out what’s ideal for Kill Team
All the launch boxes have been 2 brand new kits, then the rest of that season are one new kit and one upgrade sprue. So there is a good chance both will be brand new.
New Vespid minis would be great to see…and I don’t even play T’au. Scions with jump packs would be a nice way for folks that own Elysian Drop-Troopers minis to bring some of their collection back to the tabletop.
Forget the Elysians, bring out the Harakoni Chadhawks. Hopefully I can stick the grav-chutes on Kasrkin minis and fulfill a childhood dream over a decade in the making. :D
@@platexproductionsThey’re not a Kasrkin replacement, they were a Storm Trooper replacement with a trademarkable name. Kasrkin are the Cadian-specific variant of Storm Troopers, as Devil Squads are for Catachan or Grenadiers are for Krieg.
Honestly, I believe the bigger drop was the mention of a Tempestus Magnificat. I've been saying that GW needed to close the holes in the regiment roster. Considering that Cadia is (still) the standard, that means all the different regiments would have: Senior Officer, Command Squad, base troop choice, and an elite troop choice at minimum. Scions already have the command squad and base troop choice, so the mention of a Magnificat could mean they could have the rest coming along in a battle force box like the Kroot.
I just thought Magnifcabr was her name. Her having Female Pronouns is interesting as I thought they all men given. A) Scion means sons. B) all the suitable females would be scooped up by the Soritas C) all the models are dudes.
@@ChrisKCook Not really considering: A) Scions is just the marketing rebrand for IG stormtroopers. B) There's lots of novelization and some lore with female stormtroopers. C) GW is still under assault by the DEI cult, so nothing is off the table.
@@ChrisKCook Scions have always competed with sororitas and the commissariat for female recruits. I seem to recall they had the least women, but I'm not sure if that's accurate
So if we hadn’t just had the Tau Codex my guess would be scions get an upgrade sprue and a new Auxilia tau kit. Scions are a slightly odd choice, their kit isn’t “that” old and the Catachan are right there.
The Kessandras system is being used for the current grand narrative. I’m playing at the Tacoma Narrative and we just got a primer that Kessandras is where we’ll be fighting.
I really hate how the 5th sphere expansion isn't just a curb stomp. It's a group of fringe frontier worlds that the Tau should easily overcome. Even with Sisters of Battle and a handful of Deathwatch, the Tau should be cleaning up shop at this point. I understand that the Tau can't just always be winning, but they severely outmatch the Imperial defenders in this instance with Genestealer Cults rampaging in the background.
The T’au being capable of something is illegal apparently. The fanbase as a whole shits on us so much that GW is intimidated to put actual lore effort into them or make them do something meaningful for once
@isaiahkoufos3573 the only thing they get is a literal plot armor, deus ex machina, Greater Good God because GW has to ruin.the only non-religious faction
In the Shadowsun book there are a few things setting up the Charpactin species for military use against the death guard, they don't mention vespids but I'd love to see either because the Auxillaries are my favourite part of the tau so any is good to me!
@@yulusleonard985There's one wormhole, that being the Startide Nexus. T'au have had FTL since the 2nd Sphere of Expansion, just not Warp-based FTL. They finally got "proper" mass-produced Warp drives sometime between the Fifth and the upcoming Sixth Sphere.
Elysians are possible, Drop Regiments normally have some units of Scions embedded within them. But it would be odd for the community post to focus so heavily on this elite Scion team and they bait and switch with Elysians
Man, I just bought a Scion Start Collecting box. Might have to resell it now, if they decide to refresh the Scions. They hold up pretty well, but they do have the old body proportions
You may wanna keep it for kitbashing purposes if nothing else. I kept some of the older Astra Militarum kits cause they can be easily added to other more modern models with a little bit of handywork.
No it's a really good box. Command squad, troops, special Commissar and their unique tank. It's a reminder of what a good box should be, one you can buy several of. No point in reselling the command squad, Commissar and Taurox anyway.
Tempestus Scions could get another unit and a real single model character. They could give them the typical Kill Team extra sprue for new options plus a plastic character in an own sprue! Then they can implement these in the new codex
The best part of this article was when a general asked what they were going to do about the people that would starve if they abandoned the agri-world, and the Lord Marshal's response was along the lines of "I dunno, have them eat faith or something". Peak Imperial shenanigans.
Vespids will be welcome by all, even non-collectors. They are just cool. Tau having proper new alien auxiliaries this edition will be a big win. If those Scions are elites for Agents of the Imperium, that makes a lot of sense too. This could be an excellent box, satisfies several needs.
They are still trying figure out how exactly it works so it's all highly experimental for them currently as they still don't even know what the warp really is. their first voyage through the warp they did it without a gellar field not knowing it's even a thing. it ended... poorly
@joelsmith8884 One of my favorite bits of Tau lore is that time they interrogated a guardsman to find out how warp engines worked. He didn't know either.
The tau do use the warp since 9thed. They just don't use navigators so they can only do small jumps. Votaan use warp skimming: not quite breaching warpspace but skimming the membrane between the two realities. (This used to be the tau ftl in 4ed). Kroot use similar warp travel to tau. Nicassar don't have ftl...(This doesn't fit the lore, but they're a lesser known part of it)
There was also a lore refresher about the region in the new White Dwarf. I can see this being kill team for now but with the number of factions involved it'd be nice if this became a crusade book eventually. That being said the next crusade should probably be chaos based, given the last two have been imperium v xenos.
Same here, I made some videos on Vespids and Swooping hawks for KT in summer last year, and early this year, and I don’t have the sources that Valrak has.
PLEASE this would literally fix so much weird jank if the scions are real. Scions as the battleline for agents of the imperium book that total exists and im not crazy
Wish it was Kasrkin but I've got some 3rd party torsos lying around meant to fix the stupid-looking Scion ones if I were to ever buy any Scions anyway That said I already have 24 Vespid so I can't even use any more
At this point with what GW is doing with older kits, I kind of don't want updates for a lot of units because every time an "Update" comes out we generally lose options and get nothing but Monopose models.
I’ve got a black Templar army and wanted to know if this is a good army roster? Characters: apothecary Lieutenant in Phobos Captain with plasma pistol x1 impulsor x10 hellblasters x5 assault intercessors with jump packs x5 assault inercessors x3 eliminators x5 infiltrators x3 suppressors Any tips on what I could add or get rid of for a 1000 point army?
I'd be pretty bummed honestly. With the exception of the Night Lords, this season has been very disappointing. The 4 factions with only compendium rules have been ignored and World Eaters continue to be the only faction in 40k without even compendium rules, while others are getting up to their 4th bespoke team. If theyre going to release updated models, they could just do that instead of Kill Teams for factions with multiple.
I believe we are due for a new season of KT so a bigger kick-off box (even if it's not Octarius-sized), with two all-new kits seems appropriate. Modern Scions standing next to even just the new Cadians, let alone the new Kasrkin, do not hold up in scale, although I'd say they hold up in details. Good chance to totally redo the team loadout as well.
Have GW just forgotten Admech are a faction? The Mechanicus game came out 6 years ago and yet they've never bothered making an Admech team with a Tech Priest all this time while giving SM 5 different teams... It just seems insane to me.
There is a white dwarf kill team rules set for custodes. It has all of...3 custodes who can pretty much do 2 turns in 1. Apparently it's really strong.
100% mission success rate for someone in a combat role means that they've been sheltered and protected their entire career. Given that this is a woman in a special forces role, something we know to be an impossibility, that sounds about right.
Alternate theory: this is the lead in to Imperial Agents codex announcement. These are “non-standard” Tempestus and advice from a shadowy figure over a code-worded objective
Its the start of a new Kill Team Season/Edition for this box. Typically both teams will be new models in that case. That's what happened with Orks/Vets, Kroot/breachers, Scouts/Scorpions, and now whatever this is.
