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@EonsOfBattle
@EonsOfBattle 5 месяцев назад
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@fenrirsrage4609
@fenrirsrage4609 5 месяцев назад
The funniest thing about them is that, the reason those missile launchers dont have any backblast was because Cawl basically reinvented the Bolter.
@ThePigeon5734
@ThePigeon5734 5 месяцев назад
Cawl: AHA I'VE DONE IT, IT'S AMAZING Servo-Skull #4343-6245-9473: Cogitating... You have invented a larger boltgun. Cawl: FU-
@ksrknwht300klls
@ksrknwht300klls 5 месяцев назад
​@@ThePigeon5734 "magister that is just a downsized mega bolter"
@rileyernst9086
@rileyernst9086 5 месяцев назад
No he re invented the Ork Rokkit launcher.
@CTA12356
@CTA12356 5 месяцев назад
Having Cawl as the deus ex machina of the lore is the worst thing to happen to 40k
@davidj3841
@davidj3841 5 месяцев назад
​@@CTA12356Ah yes because wh40k wasn't already full of deus ex machina. Stop being an old head
@Alertacobra12
@Alertacobra12 5 месяцев назад
The best part about the Desolation squad model is that EVERYONE is trying to fix them and there's a lot of variation for solutions. This one and Pete The Wargamer are definitely my favorites
@PearlJam2k6
@PearlJam2k6 5 месяцев назад
I saw Pete's video a few day ago as well, and while it works its not my favorite strangely. Slapping the entire gun on the backpack felt a bit too easy but the use of optics and arm-computers was very good.
@Alertacobra12
@Alertacobra12 5 месяцев назад
@@PearlJam2k6 tbh I think both approaches look great, Pete did the "backpack gun" approach way better than anyone but Jay's approach is certainly unique since he actually kept the guns on hand which I haven't seen anyone attempt effectively
@djigsup
@djigsup 5 месяцев назад
Mad Dok Minis was my favourite. Replicated it for my rocket lads and they look great!
@Lyriiic
@Lyriiic 5 месяцев назад
Until you realise theres no way petes desolation squad could fit inside a transport
@rbleisem
@rbleisem 5 месяцев назад
@@PearlJam2k6 Indeed, just saw that one, his alternate arm options are interesting, though. I do like the added Fallout styled com-gear & that tablet. They need a way to store their rifles, when not in use, because then using that arm-computer thing or that tablet, could work. Thing is, I don't really see a spot, anywhere, that would work and they don't have any carry belts on their rifles. And why am I right now, remembering that Fallout Multi-Rocket Launcher or a modern day granate(?) launcher gun with a ammo-drum underneed it? Heh, Mechanicum robots, do share a look with Fallout Protectrons, so there is that one. And you could easily add in some Starcraft styled armor mounted headlights as well, for when you really need some light to see by. Heck, is there room for a Iron Man Arc Reactor, by change? Iron Man armor mk1 & mk1B. I think that if you are careful,several different setups could be made. Anti-Heavy-Armor, Anti-Heavy-Troop, Scout, Command, Demolish-ion. Heck, it could even form a nice objective tile, a command tile,tablet guy, calling guy, radio thingy guy, Protectron protection to fill out to five units.
@xhimpei
@xhimpei 5 месяцев назад
I totally respect the random numbering. “They’re seventh. . .something” had me laughing
@tiberiumnp8030
@tiberiumnp8030 5 месяцев назад
One actually nice thing about this kit is that I’ve now seen maybe a dozen different takes on how to improve these. Really cool that folks didn’t just settle on one way to kitbash them. Personally I simply swapped the arms for devastator squad missile launchers and glued the little rocket pod at an angle to their backpacks.
@LuponTravler
@LuponTravler 5 месяцев назад
Looks realy good! but one thing I would suggest is if your going with the idea that thes are discardable box launchers you might want to use the extra launcher cells as reloads somewhere on the modle to help tell that idea, kind of like how old marine launchers had a pack just for more missles.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 5 месяцев назад
Those marines look great with this conversion work and paint job. Jay's freehand is impressive.
@206lucas30
@206lucas30 5 месяцев назад
yea like how do you even do that
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 5 месяцев назад
From what I understand, Jay cheats; he practices off camera 😄😄😄🖌🎨@@206lucas30
@julienansay2979
@julienansay2979 5 месяцев назад
It’ s a pity that you don’t kitbash more often. You brought originality, sobriety and credibility! Which is the essence of conversion. Those Nerf sounds like a junior over tanked conversion. You can really call this a success now
@proxy7863
@proxy7863 5 месяцев назад
Love it, going to copy this for mine. Only change would be the missile door opening downwards
@LordCrate-du8zm
@LordCrate-du8zm 5 месяцев назад
Same. That was the one thing bugging me about them, lol.
@TheTygre
@TheTygre 5 месяцев назад
You made them look amazing! The crosses on Black Templars helmets is simply inspired, and I’m surprised I haven’t seen it before. Between that and the giant guns, your Templars look straight out of a Rob Liefeld comic, and I mean that in the best way possible.
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 21 день назад
They have feet. We know Rob Liefeld can't draw feet.
@papazoulou9326
@papazoulou9326 5 месяцев назад
0:33 I get it. The issue is, they actually look like toys.
@user-hf6vf5gc5n
@user-hf6vf5gc5n 5 месяцев назад
The new marines look fantastic! I like how the indirect fire weapons can actually function as that, aiming towards the air.
@phil7706
@phil7706 4 месяца назад
I actually kind of like the original Desolation Squad. The big ridiculous stuff are part of the charm of 40k for me. But I love this conversion, makes it more believable.
@termi6523
@termi6523 5 месяцев назад
That beaky templar cross looks amazing! Also putting the grenade launchers on the backpacks is a great idea!
@_JG__
@_JG__ 5 месяцев назад
If I ever get another set of Desolation marines, I'm definitely going with this route rather than the normal
@kl1thedominion
@kl1thedominion 5 месяцев назад
On the subject of Primaris naming conventions, I've been referring to them as Desolators this whole time without realizing they're actually called Desolation Marines/Desolation Squad. I love these models because of the way they've inspired people to improve them.
@TMillsYo
@TMillsYo 5 месяцев назад
These look absolutely SICK! The cross over the face mask is the perfect icing on the cake! Never thought I could fan boy over a model figurine.
@orrinfreeman5672
@orrinfreeman5672 5 месяцев назад
Started watching this channel for Legion (I don't personally play Warhammer) But I just love how you break down painting, and the humor is great too! So now I watch every upload! Keep being awesome EoB!
@newtybot
@newtybot 5 месяцев назад
Jay: “they look too much like nerf guns” Jay: *paints barrel end orange*
@griffinspady9019
@griffinspady9019 5 месяцев назад
Been a while, glad to see youre doing your same stuff
@TylerSantinelli
@TylerSantinelli 5 месяцев назад
My favorite part about these models is seeing how everyone interprets how to fix them. I've seen some really creative ways to get this working, and I like this method a lot.
@nikolasderosa
@nikolasderosa 5 месяцев назад
I love how even with the blur, we all still saw what kit it was
@bettsdn
@bettsdn 5 месяцев назад
These are perfect. I love your instincts on the conversion.
@DeathInTheSnow
@DeathInTheSnow 5 месяцев назад
Can't wait to play as a Desolation marine during Space Marine 2 next year. I wonder how they'll handle it.
@matthewmcgill3125
@matthewmcgill3125 5 месяцев назад
When you were squeezing out the water for your decals, I was squeezing out the water out of my freshly shredded hash browns
@donald2005
@donald2005 5 месяцев назад
This looks awesome man. Though the big rockets still look a bit goofy but nothing can be done about that. Best conversion i’ve seen so far
@LunarSniperWifle
@LunarSniperWifle 5 месяцев назад
I really like how you modeled these!!! If i ever get this kit, Ill likely be using this as a reference to make mine look not as derpy haha
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis 5 месяцев назад
Another way to explain how your new (eccellent) converted missile launcher works could be as a PIAT, with an huge spring launch the missile and After some meters the rocket is activated. Logically, with someone such as strong as a SM, it would be very easy to recharge the launcher.
@dracomundos
@dracomundos 5 месяцев назад
I've always thought this kit was ridiculous, but you've made them look like GW should have. Great job on this!
@yoenderrebel
@yoenderrebel 5 месяцев назад
I have a squad of these guys, and my current plan was to have them as bulky walking artilary pieces with the pods attached to the bagback
@jessc3007
@jessc3007 5 месяцев назад
You did a great job, this is a huge improvement. That original under-slung belt-fed gatling-but-not rocket launcher thing was absolutely absurd.
@Lyriiic
@Lyriiic 5 месяцев назад
Best desolation conversion i’ve seen. Nice work as always Jaybo!
@linus3977
@linus3977 5 месяцев назад
Definitely my favorite conversion of these guy's I've seen so far!
@SoulCrusherEx
@SoulCrusherEx 4 месяца назад
The Marines that nobody loves but has the most variations
@RadSpoonyBard
@RadSpoonyBard 5 месяцев назад
If I ever get around to buying a Desolation Squad, I feel like modeling them on Gravis bodies would help them feel less silly
@joeokabayashi8669
@joeokabayashi8669 5 месяцев назад
Inspiring - love figure conversions and mods.
@gmanplaysgames256
@gmanplaysgames256 Месяц назад
Phenomenal work. Your work with the Primaris models makes me like them a lot more, my biggest peeve with Primaris Marines compared to Firstborn is they all look too samey (within a squad), the old Tactical Squads and Devastators and such gave you more options to kit out individual marines to give the squad some personality and see each one as a unique soldier. Your alterations not only resolve this issue but also fix the stupid guns into a more believable, but still very Warhammer-y slightly silly chunkiness I expect from Marines.
@imFunAE
@imFunAE 5 месяцев назад
Great video, love the humour and the conversions
@planetap2745
@planetap2745 5 месяцев назад
You did great, really helping the world heal from their original design !
@Giovanni13n
@Giovanni13n 5 месяцев назад
5:05 "The gun is really more just a trigger and they take these rocket pods, stick them to the bottom, fire them off, and then just toss them." Wait a minute, that basically the Rocket Launcher from Halo!
@callumfbuchan2002
@callumfbuchan2002 5 месяцев назад
seen some cool conversions with the rockets attached to the backpack. Like a should mounted arm thing.
@guyincognito959
@guyincognito959 2 месяца назад
I immediately thought: "Shoulder- / backpack-mounted rockets!" Nice job :)
@MyAlessandro1995
@MyAlessandro1995 5 месяцев назад
Imho I like the standard look of the desolation Marines, but this conversation is nice too
@sadlyanuxtakustan8950
@sadlyanuxtakustan8950 5 месяцев назад
Best desolation marines I have seen on the internet hands down. Almost makes me want to buy the kit.
@solitudeguard8478
@solitudeguard8478 5 месяцев назад
I think Pete the Wargamer did an excellent kitbash of these guys for his Raptors army
@alexandermanolakos698
@alexandermanolakos698 Месяц назад
This gave me so much inspiration for some iron warrior obliterator conversions
@isaacfregoso7988
@isaacfregoso7988 3 месяца назад
I find it funny that people think “missile guns” are impractical, but we have the RPG and the little known “rocket gun” that was the gyro jet pistol, but that is just my own opinion. Also love this conversion I did my own version that allowed me to put the four tube missile pods
@steveharrison76
@steveharrison76 5 месяцев назад
Having flame patterns on your gun is a proud and rich tradition all the way back to the Rogue Trader days. Good work, sir!
@Mr_Waffle.
@Mr_Waffle. 4 месяца назад
Fantastic work, if I ever end up with these guys somehow (a battleforce or whatever) I'll definitely do this, and put the targeting lenses on all the guns.
@GeorgioSubs
@GeorgioSubs 8 дней назад
Amazing work as always. I would've painted the rocket tip red or something tho. Its a little plain having a gray rocket in a gray tube.
@RandomIdiotGS
@RandomIdiotGS 3 месяца назад
Absolutely love your solution. I'm actually in the camp that thinks the Desolation squad looks "okay", just not thematically fantastic. It looks overthought on the weapons and underthought on everything else. If I bought a set of these, I would likely have done something similar with the missile launchers and I possibly would look into doing something to their armour to make them a little more unique. I had an idea of kitbashing Heavy Intercessors and a Desolation squad if I ever buy them. You could base them on 32mm to use them as a heavy Gravis looking Desolation squad, or even base them in 40mm and interchange them with Eradicators, or you could even do a magnetized 32mm on top of a 40mm to switch between both.
@Rook986
@Rook986 5 месяцев назад
This is the third 'fixing desolation marines' conversion video I've seen, and imo is the best looking solution
@emopony5077
@emopony5077 5 месяцев назад
...This is how I'm doing my desolation squads... I gotta. There's no other way they work.
@Thertra70
@Thertra70 4 месяца назад
The cross on the face was such a good addition
@crabbyink9849
@crabbyink9849 5 месяцев назад
wow the templar cross over the helmet looks awesome
@johnfraire6931
@johnfraire6931 5 месяцев назад
It always makes me a little anxious whenever I hear a sentence start with "And you know what else ___" before the halfway mark on these videos
@richardrussell7082
@richardrussell7082 5 месяцев назад
Useless side note: In the real world the back blast issue is worked around by 'cold launching' the missile with, basically, a compressed air blast or small launch charge. Once clear of the launcher the rocket propellant ignites for full thrust.
@grimmriffer
@grimmriffer 5 месяцев назад
Just like the Pillsburry Doughboy marines you modded a while back, this kit looks *great* .... when you completely change it. Great work, your army is looking fiiiiiiine, boiy!
@CMDR_BananenKeks
@CMDR_BananenKeks 5 месяцев назад
Like you said, the reason they look silly is the way a rocket launcher works. But I really like your conversion, especially the mounted rocket launcher instead of the camera. Imo the camera on GW model looks weird in teh position it is
@isaacthompson4347
@isaacthompson4347 5 месяцев назад
I don't think there's ever been an EoB conversion that I don't like, great job!
@toasthammer
@toasthammer 5 месяцев назад
Definitely a huge improvement! I feel like it would be very cool to make them be underslung guns (like some of the old Devastator models) but I have no idea how to make that happen 😅
@Matt-md5yt
@Matt-md5yt 4 месяца назад
underbarreled guns are cool in general. masterKey is my fav
@einfurfoot5473
@einfurfoot5473 5 месяцев назад
The modified weapons now remind me of a 40K WW2 Panzerfaust.
@yungmalaria
@yungmalaria 5 месяцев назад
The templars cross across the helmet of the primaris marines is so good. Im gonna have to find some other even-sided chapter symbols to try this on.
@warpwingminis
@warpwingminis 5 месяцев назад
Damn Jay these look so clean! I've been seeing lots of people's takes on how the "fix" these and this is by far my favourite solution 🔥
@Lesardah
@Lesardah 5 месяцев назад
Your freehand work is impressive!
@hexeltron8625
@hexeltron8625 5 месяцев назад
I love the grenade rocket pod idea... I'm gonna have to make a set
@cgb1995
@cgb1995 5 месяцев назад
I really wish GW had just said, "Alright all the heavy weapons are going to go to gravis armor." I love the eradicators asthetic and would like to see them armed with all the other heavy weapons. I think the plamsma cannon version would've been awesome.
@thomaswilliams5005
@thomaswilliams5005 5 месяцев назад
I have loved those things since they announced them. Really need to print and paint some
@TimZoet
@TimZoet 5 месяцев назад
Any chance you'll paint some Salamanders?
@cirno9349
@cirno9349 5 месяцев назад
You know what I’m really surprised I thought it was gonna be the normal style conversion but this came out really well
@gnifle79
@gnifle79 5 месяцев назад
The Channel “Hammer of Wrath” did a cool conversion of the same kit.
@tonarsilverwolf6485
@tonarsilverwolf6485 5 месяцев назад
Which video? looked at the channel but I didn't find it
@tecccow99
@tecccow99 5 месяцев назад
I waited for someone to fix those goofy goofy guys ever since they’ve been revealed
@DaileyASMR
@DaileyASMR 5 месяцев назад
I love that you make a silly face at the end of all your videos!!! Hilarious edit!!!
@tomwardle
@tomwardle 5 месяцев назад
Such a fantastic paint job.
@connendarf3857
@connendarf3857 5 месяцев назад
MY BOIS GOT TRANSFER SHEET SUPPORT!! I know the Raptors aren't a very major chapter by any means, but GW supporting them gives me hope they'll get more
@Dragon_Werks
@Dragon_Werks 5 месяцев назад
Those underbarrel anti-infantry rocket launchers look like they're rotary chamber weapons, like the M39 20mm cannons formerly used in US aircraft (before the M61A1 Vulcan gun).
@TwoHands95
@TwoHands95 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, that looks so much better. Great work.
@origulator
@origulator 5 месяцев назад
tbh this is probably the most convincing 'fix' for these guys I've seen.
@tojirokitsune1640
@tojirokitsune1640 5 месяцев назад
you know when he was talking about throwing away the whole rocket pod to reload i though he was gonna reference the M41 SPNKr from Halo haha
@TT-yg2np
@TT-yg2np 5 месяцев назад
These marines look way better with your conversion!!!! Great job.
@hydecleese8877
@hydecleese8877 5 месяцев назад
I think GW should have made them as an upgrade sprue for Aggressors.
@liamalmond1914
@liamalmond1914 7 дней назад
That would have been much better. There is space on their backs for weapon variations
@Arnok811
@Arnok811 5 месяцев назад
The templar cross on the helmet looks so nice!
@cameronframent8976
@cameronframent8976 5 месяцев назад
With all the RU-vid videos of people “fixing” these space marines I think this might be GW’s most inspirational kit. Lol
@MarkTayloroutdoors
@MarkTayloroutdoors 5 месяцев назад
a definite improvement in my opinion, those oversized guns do look ridiculous, especially the leader holding it up like a bolt gun
@CreatureCreator765
@CreatureCreator765 5 месяцев назад
No bayonet. I’m disappointed
@foreverfornever1124
@foreverfornever1124 5 месяцев назад
Pre-Watch: He's finally doing it! Havent seen the vid yet but after seeing other hobbyist do their versions of a better desolation squad, Im very much looking forward to this one Post Watch: I really like these and always enjoy your takes on making not so good units look better and these are up there as one of your best. Eventually Ill get this kit when I start my Salamander army and see what I can come up with.
@saddie420
@saddie420 5 месяцев назад
they look incredible! well done :)
@mydaemoncallista
@mydaemoncallista 5 месяцев назад
Best Desolation marine conversion I've seen. Definitely going to be stealing this method! 👍
@oattags
@oattags 5 месяцев назад
you could put the spear anti vehicles missile around the back on a sling since you said they were like one use you fire one and then take the one off your back and put it on and take 2
@Sethamon2000
@Sethamon2000 5 месяцев назад
Damn.. my favorite looking bash yet for these dudes.
@_Qan
@_Qan 5 месяцев назад
Holy Emperor, this is exactly how I wanted to fix the desolators. Great minds think alike!
@Karloss00
@Karloss00 5 месяцев назад
It's a good take. I personally think if I was ever to start a marine army and use these; I would scrap the kit and convert my own entirely with just intercessors and an arm swap. My idea would be to make a salvo launcher, looking a bit like the cyclone missiles but on a gun held like a heavy bolter (with the support arm holding it at the top). If you've ever seen Deep Rock Galactic, it would look like the Gunner's missile launcher.
@noquarrel2758
@noquarrel2758 5 месяцев назад
My assumption is the rockets are 2 stage- one thump to clear the rocket from the launcher, the next stage is the acceleration stage. Since space Marines are super strong they can handle the recoil of the first stage without back blast. Maybe.
@allbalasar6957
@allbalasar6957 5 месяцев назад
Looking at this variant makes me think of destroyer squad, which is what I thought these models were gonna be when they were released. Honestly so much better than what they looked like before!
@PlasticAddict301
@PlasticAddict301 4 месяца назад
Those helmet crosses are badass
@S1leNtRIP
@S1leNtRIP 5 месяцев назад
So freaking cool dude! You’re an inspiration!
@zombi3brosnanxx
@zombi3brosnanxx 5 месяцев назад
These are excellent. I love how the weapon looks
@danyael777
@danyael777 4 месяца назад
Awesome job. I feel that's what they were supposed to look like. But what kind of guns are the base weapons? Bolters? Lasguns?
@A3KingGamer
@A3KingGamer 5 месяцев назад
makes me want to start a black templar army! these look so great! ALSO do they not do the space marines anymore with the beaky helmets? i love the look of them so much!
@Zachafinackus
@Zachafinackus 2 месяца назад
I definitely think that the double missile launcher would have looked better as and under-arm weapon (from GW, your conversion is sick), that way it can off-gas under the elbow, and carrying one in each hand would look better than either two shoulder supported launchers or what they did in this kit.
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