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Did Hulk Hogan Nearly RUIN Impact Wrestling? 

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@WrestlingWithWregret
@WrestlingWithWregret Год назад
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@Chuubii
@Chuubii Год назад
I dunno, man. Superfoods is a marketing term, and probiotics aren't that effective compared to prebiotics, brother.
@geeshep4836
@geeshep4836 Год назад
DIXIE CARTER, BISCHOFF AND HOGAN ALMOST PUT TNA OUT OF BUSINESS. I WOLUD'VE PICTURED JEFF JARRETT AS THE LEADER OF THE ACES AND EIGHTS AT THE TIME AND WOULD'VE CHALLENGED OVER THE POWER OF TNA/IMPACT WRESTLING.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
@nehemiahpouncey3607 Год назад
Hogan actually made the TNA game. The second one.
@rayelgatubelo
@rayelgatubelo Год назад
I find it funny that the sponsor of a video on Hulk Hogan is a multivitamin.
@mspacely6521
@mspacely6521 Год назад
Train, say your prayers, and eat your athletic greens brother!
@2ColdScoprio
@2ColdScoprio Год назад
The answer is yes.
@knomad75
@knomad75 Год назад
In my opinion TNA was at its best right before he came. They were never going to be as big as WWE. Bring him in only only weakened the homegrown stars that they had at the time.
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 Год назад
Dixie carter helped out a lot as well
@wheelzwheelzington
@wheelzwheelzington Год назад
@@knomad75 2007-2009 was peak TNA. The roster was stacked with talent, matches were constantly great. Were they gonna be as big as wwe? Never. But the product was a good alternative to what we had
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 Год назад
He turned it into WWE/WCW-lite. Which was the worst thing they could have done.
@glennb6020
@glennb6020 Год назад
LET ME TELL YOU SOWMTHING BROTHA I WAS AT THE TOP OF MY GAME I WAS PULLKNG NUMBERS AEW WOULS DREAM OF AND THAT JOBBER STING WOULD RUB MY BACK AFTERWARDS AND CONGRADATE ME. But he is a
@mrterp04
@mrterp04 Год назад
As I once read, if someone ever writes a book about the history of TNA/Impact, the cover needs to be Dixie desperately holding onto Hogan’s leg
@REfan2002
@REfan2002 Год назад
That is needed
@JeremiahEcks777
@JeremiahEcks777 Год назад
Russo and Dixie holding onto Hogan's legs.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 Год назад
While Jeff Jerrett cries in the background after seeing what they did to his company.
@imfreviews
@imfreviews Год назад
I'm glad this is the top comment. It's so easy to blame Hogan and Bischoff, but look at what they had to work with on the management side in terms of 'enablers'.
@lostalone9320
@lostalone9320 Год назад
Yeah, Hogan is awful but he was hired by people who knew he was awful and for some reason wanted that.
@SuperJoesutton
@SuperJoesutton Год назад
Hogan didn't screw Impact... Impact screwed Impact. By hiring Hogan.
@fredrichardsonjr9669
@fredrichardsonjr9669 2 месяца назад
True
@johnenigma8506
@johnenigma8506 Год назад
Sidebar, I think Dixie Carter should get her own video in the future. Whether it's her heel run or a character study, she is worthy of an examination.
@Gurziak
@Gurziak Год назад
I'd watch an examination of her in between 2 gentlemen of color.
@jliller
@jliller Год назад
Did Dixie Carter ever do anything good for TNA, other than provide it with financial backing?
@FIXTREME
@FIXTREME Год назад
@@jliller She didn't even do that right! Ask those who worked at LensCrafters and Dollar Tree while on the roster.
@ddjsoyenby
@ddjsoyenby Год назад
yes!
@siegmund87
@siegmund87 Год назад
​@jliller Didn't even do that right. It's why there were always stories about production people threatening to walk unless they got paid.
@bonafide9781
@bonafide9781 Год назад
It’s pretty hilarious how many times that Hogan failed at recreating the nWo. -The Band (Middle Aged nWo) -Immortal (Unrecognizably Watered-Down nWo) -Aces & Eights (Hell’s Angels nWo)
@Obscusion2
@Obscusion2 Год назад
The funniest thing about the attempt at a second Monday Night War that Hogan & Bischoff tried doing with TNA is that Spike was never committed to it. Even when Impact aired on Monday nights against Raw, Spike would still air that same episode later that same week on Thursday, as usual, so there was literally no reason at all to ever watch Impact on Monday, since you could just watch it later in its entirety on Thursday.
@andu1854
@andu1854 11 месяцев назад
One thing I will give AEW credit for is they have their show on Wednesday, even though I would rather watch aew than z WWe these days
@njmfff
@njmfff 10 месяцев назад
Eric announcing "Monday night war" was one of the funniest shit in wrestling history. TNA couldn't even compete with ECW, which was lowest rated WWE product.
@michaelle1445
@michaelle1445 4 месяца назад
I truly think Eric has a brilliant mind for wrestling and business. However, he was still stuck in the Monday Night Wars era and tried everything he could to bring back some legitimacy to himself, and by extension, his new "pet project" in then "new" TNA with him and Hogan onboard. Ultimately, craving the fame and success he had during the wars had massively stifled his creativity.
@deebow_fat
@deebow_fat Год назад
The sad part is that TNA was on a bit of a course correction by the end of 2009. They finally put the title on AJ. They signed Nigel McGuinness and put him in a feud with Kurt Angle. The tag team scene was rolling again with MCMG, British Invasion, and Beer Money, and they signed the Young Bucks at the end of 2009. They had the potential to do great things. Then Hogan pretty much undid everything on his first day.
@stevenmacaulay8807
@stevenmacaulay8807 Год назад
Not to defend Hogan but let's be honest for a single second... It wasn't his company, it was Dixie's, Hogan wasn't in charge of signing, Dixie was... Did he really help ? No but undid anything? ... Mental gymnastics you must be good at.
@HeinerGunnar
@HeinerGunnar Год назад
The Young Bucks? You mean Generation Me
@closethockeyfan5284
@closethockeyfan5284 Год назад
@@supersasukemaniac What are you talking about? They spent two and a half years in their original run, ending up in some of TNA's all-time classic tag matches. OP is totally correct: Brian was kind to use the word "nearly" in the title. Hogan certainly wasn't alone in running TNA into the ground, but he was absolutely one of the main catalysts.
@stevenmacaulay8807
@stevenmacaulay8807 Год назад
@@supersasukemaniac lmao okay well first off, it's more so looking back because they could wrestle then... As for the latter .. use Google for once in your life bud. 2009-2011 isn't "barely a month"... If your gonna be a d bag, at least be accurate and look things up . Now back to your tissues and Roman with you.
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
@@HeinerGunnar Jeremy and Max
@zxmoore1
@zxmoore1 Год назад
I was there that night 20:24. It was so awkward watching Dixie holding on to Hulk as he walked away. Rather than saying fuck you, we dont need you...she made everyone watching feel less than as if TNA wouldnt survive on their own without the mighty hulkster. It was sad and felt sorry for everyone on the roster seeing it. It was my only TNA show I would attend.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 11 месяцев назад
It's her character
@JennaLeigh
@JennaLeigh 8 месяцев назад
Yeah that was brutal. "Character" doesn't really excuse that by acting that way, she's essentially saying "no one else matters, and the blood, sweat and tears of our home grown talent just isn't good enough". Big yikes.
@johnenigma8506
@johnenigma8506 4 месяца назад
The sadder part is that this was happening during a storyline where Aj Styles was threatening to leave the company.
@stephen9281
@stephen9281 Год назад
I remember they announced Spike was cancelling Impact the night that Samoa Joe debuted in nxt and I described it as "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down"
@versebuchanan512
@versebuchanan512 11 месяцев назад
And all the people were singing lmao
@RockedNet
@RockedNet Год назад
I was at that Genesis PPV and several other shows in 2010. To say the shows got worse quickly over that year is an understatement.
@billblaski9523
@billblaski9523 Год назад
That's bull$hit, I remember being hyped for TNA but like u said it just started going downhill in 2010 cus of backstage incompetence! TNA could've been a legit #2 promotion!
@lilsunny7399
@lilsunny7399 Год назад
@@billblaski9523 It was #2.....because there was nobody else. RoH had better wrestling but TNA had a better presentation and an actual TV deal.
@TheTribalgame
@TheTribalgame Год назад
I was too. My friends and i walked out after hogans promo.
@wave201988
@wave201988 Год назад
I have to agree especially with changing the 6 Sided Ring into a traditional 4 Sided Ring was one of the dumbest things ever and that's just the first of many blunders when Hogan was there. I really blame Dixie for all the stuff that happened cause TNA was gaining some traction but Dixie was the one who made those decisions y'all remember that Talent Meeting she had saying what they did was not enough which made them look stupid.
@TheTribalgame
@TheTribalgame Год назад
@wave201988 don't forget the part where she said that anyone who didn't get on board needed to look for work elsewhere.
@CanadianRanger17
@CanadianRanger17 Год назад
Is that the WCW Hardcore Championship Belt I see in the background? If so…. FREAKIN AWESOME!!
@roccojamison89gooker51
@roccojamison89gooker51 Год назад
These Hulkamaynia videos make me appreciate Bobby "the Brain" Heenan and Jesse "the Body" Ventura even more! Those two guys had so many great one-liners about Hogan. Sadly, the 2010 decade was the start of the current rosters (TNA and WWE) being treated as second rate
@rossadams9203
@rossadams9203 Год назад
I distinctly remember being in a doctors office with my dad and being in a waiting room where maury or something was on. A TNA commercial came on hyping up hogans return and this little old lady next to me says "Don't that Hulk Hogan know hes too old to be wrastling now" followed by a chuckle. Dont know why but that popped me pretty good.
@HeinerGunnar
@HeinerGunnar Год назад
Granma knows what's up
@bradcarver8127
@bradcarver8127 Год назад
Was she a stunt granny?
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
They had Hulk Hogan on the season finale of The Ultimate Fighter that year and my dad said is he having money troubles
@Ivan6655321
@Ivan6655321 8 месяцев назад
Grandma burying Hogan on the mic
@johnlindsay4310
@johnlindsay4310 Год назад
The change to a four sided ring was actually welcomed by the wrestlers, because the six sided ring was much harder to bump on. AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels I think brought it up in their interviews.
@SirRavixofFourhorn
@SirRavixofFourhorn Год назад
Actually Aj has said that while the bumps were harder on six sides he preferred it because it made them different and it gave their product an identity. Still though 4 sides is understandable for the wellbeing of the talent for sure.
@TheConcertCruizer
@TheConcertCruizer 10 месяцев назад
@@SirRavixofFourhornPlus he cut a promo where for a PPV they brought it back.
@joshc1981
@joshc1981 9 месяцев назад
They were tricker to work around. But someone said that the change ended up doing gangbusters for the TNA toys if they could market a 6 sided ring to go with your toys
@gabepollock1641
@gabepollock1641 9 месяцев назад
@@joshc1981Impact had the double whammy of a lesser-quality figure (Jakks Pacific with accessories that couldn’t be removed, like Bully Ray’s hat) and a less popular product. If they’d had a six sided ring when I was a kid I would’ve bought that and used it over the WWE play sets just for variety.
@jdk67
@jdk67 6 месяцев назад
Six sided ring looks cool on TV and marks love it but wrestlers prefer a normal ring
@radthepaisley
@radthepaisley Год назад
Dixie: "If you dont want to be here, you can leave!" Lo-Ki: "aiight, ima head out"
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 4 месяца назад
And then he would go on to be in NXT Season 2
@zackfair6791
@zackfair6791 3 месяца назад
He's probably not the best example seeing as he has a reputation of being hard to work with. He returned to the company and was told by Dutch Mantel to go home because he was whining about not being in the world title storyline.
@noahstackhouse9818
@noahstackhouse9818 Год назад
TNA had issues long before Hogan came in, over reliance on past stars, booking issues, lack of advertising, not paying wrestlers on time and fairly. If Hogan and Bischoff had taken the time to understand the companies strengths and weaknesses and then worked to improve them, they could've made a positive impact. Instead they ended up compounding a lot of the issues. AJ Styles expressed his frustration about the situation in the interviews he gave after leaving TNA. He was particularly angry about Hogan not promoting the company and thought Hogan was embarrassed by the poor attendance at house shows. Kurt Angle said the company almost went under due to Hogan and Bischoff's spending. I think the bright side of this is that Dixie Carter was forced to relinquish control of Impact by selling it to Anthem Sports.
@francoisdubuc3774
@francoisdubuc3774 Год назад
I'm starting to fear for Brian's mental well-being after seeing that intro.
@tiagobras
@tiagobras Год назад
Hulkamania is killing Brian :(
@bradcarver8127
@bradcarver8127 Год назад
Just like it killed many careers, both Hogan and Bubba the Love Sponges marriages, and John Graziano (almost)
@humanipulationnation
@humanipulationnation Год назад
Cute comment, mark
@francoisdubuc3774
@francoisdubuc3774 Год назад
@@humanipulationnation Don't work yourself into a shoot, bro. ;)
@theluckiesteh9058
@theluckiesteh9058 Год назад
TNA had a really great roster during Hogan's time in the company but unfortunately, they fucked it up in spectacular fashion.
@ChrisWolff2013
@ChrisWolff2013 Год назад
TNA's legacy in a nutshell
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 Год назад
I don't think the roster was ever TNA's problem. They always seemed to be brimming with talent. All the company's problems came from the idiots in management.
@mechmudd4102
@mechmudd4102 Год назад
Agree, the main event scene should have been the Fortune guys as singles wrestlers
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 Год назад
When Styles said him and Bischoff didn't even know all the talents names I was like damn man that's rough
@stevenmacaulay8807
@stevenmacaulay8807 Год назад
By they you mean Dixie.
@axelfoley2061
@axelfoley2061 Год назад
They shoulda kept the six sided ring. It was definitely unique
@mychaeljones7526
@mychaeljones7526 Год назад
I agree 💯
@JamaalDaGreatest
@JamaalDaGreatest 8 месяцев назад
While it looked unique the wrestlers hated it
@davezanko9051
@davezanko9051 7 месяцев назад
@@JamaalDaGreatest And don't forget they did bring it back, only to drop it again precisely because the wrestlers voted against it.
@provinggroundswrestling9039
Watching several videos on Hulk Hogans time in TNA recently, it's become very clear that Bully Ray was the biggest success story during the Hulk Hogan era.
@olschoolTonyCarter
@olschoolTonyCarter 11 месяцев назад
Austin Aries also
@paulcowlishaw
@paulcowlishaw 7 месяцев назад
WWE wanted to bring Bully Ray back but they didn't want to use the Bully name because they had a thing against bullying in place and thought it'd contradict what they were doing about fighting bullying
@owyn4799
@owyn4799 5 месяцев назад
He mentioned on a podcast also that Hogan never promoted TNA whenever he was on TV never mentioned them at all despite being under contract was ridiculois
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson Год назад
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" - I think perfectly sums up HH
@BeyondDaX
@BeyondDaX 10 месяцев назад
Except he was never the hero to begin with, he only acted as such until the 80s were over.
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 10 месяцев назад
​@@BeyondDaXI went back and watched Hulk Hogan back in the 1980s and dude was a low key heel back then.. Watch how he did Randy Savage and Mr. Wonderful..
@paultrow1474
@paultrow1474 10 месяцев назад
He became the villain permanently for me with his heel turn promo in 96, it really felt like the real guy talking then.
@StrifeSoul990
@StrifeSoul990 Месяц назад
Refised to lose to Bret as well​@@kenrickeason
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 Год назад
9:26 the six-sided ring is known to be hard to work and at least slightly more risky to use, but damn if it wasn't cool and iconic and a major part of Impact's DNA. It's not the same without it.
@brianskelly4979
@brianskelly4979 Год назад
I'm a little sad you didn't mention that Flair's group Fourtune... the successor to the Four Horsemen... with Four in it's name.. had like... 6 people in it...
@walker1984
@walker1984 Год назад
Hogan's TNA theme is actually just the nWo theme you would hear on the Playstation games.
@nflmastermind3770
@nflmastermind3770 Год назад
I was hoping you’d get to this. Can’t wait to watch
@nflmastermind3770
@nflmastermind3770 Год назад
And I wasn’t let down!
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
Same
@ricardonb6375
@ricardonb6375 Год назад
@@claymathewselevator8121 Someone already talked about Hogan's time in TNA, and he will get upset when he sees someone else do a TNA video without his consent. He's the only youtuber that can only do TNA related content because he's about being original, and not be like the idiots from WhatCulture or Cultaholic or PartsFunknown or Wrestlelamia
@nflmastermind3770
@nflmastermind3770 Год назад
@@ricardonb6375 it’s MarkyD. I know who it is and his vid was great as well, but it’s always nice to get two different views on a topic. Different view points can let you learn more about things, and someone my bring up a point that wasn’t said earlier. One person shouldn’t get to do all the vids on a topic and then no one else can do it. It’s always nice when there are two different view points on a topic.
@chrisp679
@chrisp679 Год назад
MarkyD has no standing to be claiming anything. He’s late to the game.
@sklss
@sklss Год назад
Short Answer: Yes Long Answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeees
@a-trax3971
@a-trax3971 Год назад
We Need More TNA Videos - Jeff Hardy - Perc Angle (Kurt Angle) - Main Event Mafia - Scott Steiner - Triple H Vs Jeff Jarrett Reign Of Terror
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
Scott Steiner in TNA would be a great companion piece to his Scott Steiner in WWE video
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
Main Event Mafia member Rampage Jackson
@ricardonb6375
@ricardonb6375 Год назад
MarkyD has covered all of those topics on his channel
@a-trax3971
@a-trax3971 Год назад
@@ricardonb6375 Yeah but this guy does it slightly better
@DJVm4GOD1
@DJVm4GOD1 Год назад
Ngl. I know many look on this poorly, but it certainly was entertaining in number of things. Like Joker Sting was one of the best things ever. Angle vs Jarrett was a great feud. Anderson in the main event scene, the guys within Fortune. Bully Ray's rise, Bobby Roode's rise. Just some of the bright sparks, shame it slowly started going down hill bit by bit, to the point the mid 2010s was kinda eeehhh, and I say that as one who loved TNA/Impact those years.
@jacobvanveldhuizen4365
@jacobvanveldhuizen4365 Год назад
"In this ring right now are the guys that reinvented this business...and Sean Waltman."
@LordDeBahs
@LordDeBahs Год назад
he was there
@wave201988
@wave201988 Год назад
In reality I blame Dixie Carter cause she pretty much treated the classic TNA Roster like mid carders cause much of the roster was cut within 6 months. Think about it in 2007, 2008 and 2009 had a very deep roster, and by 2010 they had some former WWE and WCW talent and a lot of the TNA Originals were gone in favor of them. Now I was happy to see Jeff Hardy and RVD back but having AJ Styles turn into a Ric Flair rip-off was ridiculous and the bookers and Dixie are to blame for TNA's downward spiral.
@mattcraig4601
@mattcraig4601 Год назад
One of my “favorite” Hogan promo lines from Impact: “The main problem that we have is that we have a problem.” Uh huh.
@riotd.r.8363
@riotd.r.8363 Год назад
I remember when TNA moved to Mondays. My friends and I managed to get 2 televisions hooked up on the living room and watched both shows. We only did that for 2 weeks.
@sebastiancintron29
@sebastiancintron29 Год назад
The fact you lasted 2 weeks is admirable at best.
@pisspratt9002
@pisspratt9002 Год назад
Their biggest blunder was treating TNA like there was something wrong with it when they arrived. They had just had their best 3 years before this, and it seemed like it was crescendo-ing to this moment that would push them to the next level But instead Bischoff and Hogan set out to change everything about TNA that set it apart. So it became an island of WWE castoffs making a WWE-lite without any of the aura, name value, or majesty that WWE has. They brought in Vince fucking Russo 11 years after his last good idea ffs
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 Год назад
Something to be said for backing yourself and your own uniqueness, especially when it's weird perverted over-the-hill old men telling you you're defective.
@mikekling7144
@mikekling7144 8 месяцев назад
Jim Cornette had the perfect line to describe Impact you can be in the witness protection program and be on Impact and nobody would notice
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman Год назад
I remember Hogan in TNA My dad told me on January 4th 2010 that you can either watch Hogan's Debut in TNA or see Bret Hart return to WWE Well I picked Bret Hart Make his WWE Return
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
Good decision
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman Год назад
@Clay Mathews Elevator I knew that Hogan joining TNA was going to spell uncertainty and trouble
@RegularTrent
@RegularTrent Год назад
Another person who suffered from the Hogan regime was Nigel McGuinness (fka Desmond Wolfe) As a former ROH Champion, he was super over with the IWC, and they kept fan voting him into giving him a massive push, but since they were trying to make Abyss the next big thing, Wolfe was punished for getting over on his own
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
Zack Ryder in 2011 syndrome
@elneco4654
@elneco4654 11 месяцев назад
Which is kind of funny considering how Abyss was booked, going from actual monster to adding layers upon layers of dumb lore, to becoming pseudo-Mankind, to getting magic powers from Hogan's HOF ring, they just couldn't seem to get stuff right with him until they did the Joseph Park angle.
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
Love it when Brian Zane reviews TNA stuff
@davidj_alaniz
@davidj_alaniz Год назад
“I’ve been in the back all day long with all the talent that are running so hard!” Okay Hogan, name 5 of those guys right off the top of your head
@DLRX
@DLRX Год назад
"No you haven't, you just got out of your limosine!" -Jim Cornette, 2010
@DopeyDetector
@DopeyDetector 6 месяцев назад
​@@DLRXI ran a 2bit wrestling organization, and drafted off the success hogan brought to pro wrestling. - Jim Cornette
@TheSpartanWin
@TheSpartanWin Год назад
Honestly I became a wrestling fan at the start of the 2010's, so Hogan's TNA is the TNA that always comes to mind for me
@DREWtubeStreet
@DREWtubeStreet Год назад
It's the TNA that _still_ comes to everyone's minds... for some reason.
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
That’s when I got into TNA
@closethockeyfan5284
@closethockeyfan5284 Год назад
Peak TNA was 2004-08, though the second half of that was mostly a plateau. Many of us believed at the time that the company could totally maintain its niche in between the all-ring RoH and all-soap WWE as the best of both worlds, a beautiful blend. Instead they went all in on WCW 2.0 and Monday Night War 2.0, clearly disastrous. They stripped away everything that made TNA the enjoyable alternative it had been until that point, going for cookie-cutter instead of unique. Almost everything since Hogan has been nowhere close to the same, even though they've had plenty of great talent the last 14 years.
@abmorales5988
@abmorales5988 Год назад
It did have some very good moments, especially around 2011 and 2012, when other people got a shine, like Robert Roode, Austin Aries, James Storm, etc. The tag team scene had some spectacular matches still and whenever they actually tried, so did the X Division. And the first half of Ace's & 8's was genuinely intriguing. Not to mention, they had some genuinely amazing production at times. Bound For Glory 2010's entrance set is one of the most beautiful sets I can ever remember.
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 Год назад
Peak TNA was 05 to 08
@ShawnCaldwell11
@ShawnCaldwell11 Год назад
The Lapsed Fan Podcast is currently doing their "TNH" (Total Nonstop Hogan) series, and its pretty clear to me that nobody knows what they're doing in this company. What a cluster fvck!
@MattJH
@MattJH Год назад
"this company." Nice.
@Dynaman21
@Dynaman21 Год назад
JP sounded like he was going to cry when he saw Impact make WarGames boring.
@kevinramsey417
@kevinramsey417 Год назад
as Worf said, "You cannot tarnish a rusty blade."
@coldsnap5742
@coldsnap5742 9 месяцев назад
The one good thing Hogan did there was bringing back the traditional square ring. Yes, the hex ring was different and made them stand out. But wrestlers HATED running the ropes and bumping on it. Just ask Sting. The ropes and canvas were so much stiffer, leading to much more long-term wear-and-tear. It's why I'm so surprised AJ Styles' career has lasted as long as it has.
@davezanko9051
@davezanko9051 7 месяцев назад
One thing that can be said about AJ is that he's smart about and very in touch with what his body can and can't do at any given point in time, so he doesn't aggravate anything small and nagging that could become a major injury or long term issue. Also helps that, unlike the guys in the 80s and 90s, he isn't burned out on cocaine constantly.
@coldsnap5742
@coldsnap5742 7 месяцев назад
@@davezanko9051And, lest we forget, DDP Yoga. If you're a wrestler and you don't do DDP Yoga, you're an idiot. Pro wrestling owes so, so much to Diamond Dallas Page.
@DopeyDetector
@DopeyDetector 6 месяцев назад
​@@coldsnap5742do,you,understand, how,to , use, com,mas,,,,?
@jamiewiesner135
@jamiewiesner135 Год назад
Brian's impression of Hulk Hogan should be used on every episode of this series because it is hilarious.
@gorillacookies3171
@gorillacookies3171 Год назад
I think he should do the hogan voice all the time with no explanation
@radthepaisley
@radthepaisley Год назад
Right up there with Jawnny and Pulse from Deadlock
@BrothaGoneBased
@BrothaGoneBased Год назад
@@radthepaisley dude
@johnlindsay4310
@johnlindsay4310 Год назад
With the rumors of AEW potentially getting a 500 million dollar TV deal and a huge Wembley show, it makes TNA look even more pathetic in retrospect. TNA, at different points, had WCW legends including Sting, Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner and Booker T. They had ECW legends including Mick Foley, Sabu, Rhino and Raven. They had Jeff Jarrett, the epitome of and old southern heel. They had Christian coming into his own as a main eventer. They had the top drawing wrestler of all time, Hulk Hogan. They had the greatest wrestler of all time, Ric Flair. They had legendary tag teams New Age Outlaws (VKM), Dudley Boyz (Team 3D), and the Hardy Boyz. They had future WWE Champions Drew McIntyre and Bobby Lashley. The had the future recognized best wrestler in the World, AJ Styles. They had Desmond WolfeThey had a ton of other "Originals" with upside, including Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, Bobby Roode, Jay Lethal, Alex Shelley, Eric Young, Petey Williams, James Storm, and Chris Sabin. They had Abyss, which started as a bad Kane ripoff and took on a life of its own. They had the Young Bucks, who became AEW centerpieces, and buried them in the X Division. They had Okada, the greatest Japanese wrestler ever, and turned him into a Green Hornet parody. They had CM Punk, and let him go to WWE to become a star. They had Jon Moxley for like 10 seconds. They had EC3, a great talker with serious star potential. They had Rockstar Spud, the next coming of a great comedy wrestler They had Xavier Woods, the mouthpiece for one of the greatest stables in WWE history. They had Eli Drake, a current rising WWE star with Rock-like qualities, and they couldn't get him over. They had Gail Kim, one of the greatest female wrestlers of all time. They had Awesome Kong, one of the great Female Monster heels. They had The Beautiful People, one of the greatest female stables who drew legitimately high ratings for a while. They picked up WWE greats Victoria and Mickie James to round out the division. They had Broken Matt Hardy, the most innovative pioneering gimmick of the past 20 years. They had the Allie-Laural-Braxton love triangle, which gave us awesome heel Maria, hot mess Chelsea Green, and my favorite wrestling wedding segment of all time. They had stables like Main Event Mafia, TNA Front Line, and Aces & Eights. And, most of all, they had PERC FREAKIN ANGLE! That alone should've taken them to another level. AEW got where it did starting with a Chris Jericho, a Japanese Gaijin, a WWE mid carder, and a merry band of Indie darlings and their friends. Dixie Carter is the single worst wrestling promoter in the history of our sport. And despite all this, after losing everything, Scott D'more has booked one of the better wrestling shows since 2017 with next to nothing in terms of star power.
@silxix2599
@silxix2599 Год назад
I ASLI liked alpha male Mounty Brown. Eric Young during his peek. James Storm and Wild Cat Chris Harris. Did you say Mr.Kennedy? They had the Legends Championship that seem so unique, special at the time. On top of that they supposedly had some of the great minds that turned WWF & WCW to higher levels. Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo. But these idiots are good with some ideas, but putting it all together they were just bad. Many of these people were all about themselves. That's why I don't like Jeff Jarrett in AEW. You can't have old guys taking other younger wrestlers spots who have more talent. You keep adding wrestlers like that and you'll slowly but surely ruined a company.
@SteRDLK
@SteRDLK Год назад
If WWA couldn't sell out shows in England in 2001/2002, what hope did TNA have a few years later? WWE didn't return to the UK for a stadium show for 30 years because at no point would it have sold out until the last 3-4 years, where, uh-oh, there was a pandemic. AEW are riding/causing a wave of popularity along with WWE that simply wasn't possible between 2003-2015. A time when wrestling was the most uncool thing in mainstream entertainment
@evandaymon8303
@evandaymon8303 9 месяцев назад
Going say way too much words. Next time try to split up your sentences to make it little easier to read. As for your statement yes they had all best legends but that can carry you so far till people get sick of them and want new and exciting. Hogan and people at time in charge was not great at handling the new talent they basically repeated what they did in wcw. Which is fuck the new stars lets use older talent and push them so hard that fans will tell us that we suck and they hate it. Tna would be better off with someone who cares about business and not some old wash up power hungry douche
@razorramon7573
@razorramon7573 Год назад
Hogan's debut on Impact took place just as Raw was starting, which kicked off with Bret Hart making his first live WWE appearance in over a decade. The closest we'll get to seeing Bret vs Hogan (not counting their Nitro encounter)!
@stupid5pin
@stupid5pin Год назад
I just remember watching that first Monday episode of IMPACT, and the very second they went to a commercial, Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels hugged in the ring on RAW. I knew right then this experiment was going to fail miserably.
@swovy5
@swovy5 Год назад
"Laaaaaaaazy Booking!" Glad to see you're still a Corny fan.
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
3 years felt way longer than that lol
@Yeahjustyou
@Yeahjustyou Год назад
These are the videos I absolutely love! A video revolving a certain wrestlers time in a particular company. Still to this day I rewatch Vader in WWF, Roddy in WCW, etc. and now add this to the list of great classic videos. Thank You Brian!!!!! Awesome work as always!!
@InfectiousGroovePodcast
@InfectiousGroovePodcast Год назад
I grew up on Hogan and I will still never understand how/why companies kept going back to him as if he was going to turn things around.
@sampleoffers1978
@sampleoffers1978 Год назад
Bubba Ray was there as living evidence it was a post ecw world..and they resumed like universe began with wcw invasion amalgamation...and as crazy as that sounds to watch like a train wreck love letter to Vince Mcmahon... They made it unwatchable. They perfected it to fail.
@jamesdixon6332
@jamesdixon6332 Год назад
Exactly
@StephenWestSyd
@StephenWestSyd Год назад
Hotdogin n grandstandin
@elneco4654
@elneco4654 11 месяцев назад
"big name mean more eyes, more eyes mean more money", probably. Same reason why people rarely take chances with new writers/bookers and hire Russo instead, then it all comes back to bite them.
@jcace13
@jcace13 Год назад
I love it when you do videos like this as TNA is such a blindspot in wrestling for me. Isn't it rather sad that Hulk Hogan's last match was some six-man tag at a house show and not some grand retirement match 10 years earlier?
@KillFriskey
@KillFriskey Год назад
Honestly, between what was going on here in TNA with this and what WWE was doing (and going to do in 2010), it was THOSE companies like Chikara (damn, that takes me back), ROH, and PWG that kept my love of wrestling alive. Without them, I probably would have lapsed out of wrestling around this time.
@closethockeyfan5284
@closethockeyfan5284 Год назад
I did lapse out of wrestling at the time, to your point. I had Cena Nuff of new Hogan getting shoved down our throats on one side (My dad joked at one point that they'd have Cena defeat a lion, tiger, and bear 1-on-3 in a handicap match soon enough.), and sure enough, actual Hogan shoved down our throats on the other side. You are spot on about those smaller companies being the only good things going at the end of the 2000s and early 2010s.
@nonverbalpie8151
@nonverbalpie8151 Год назад
I think it would be fitting if Brian reviewed the whole Immortal storyline in TNA, as ties into both this video and Aces and Eights creating a trilogy of sorts.
@paulweston8408
@paulweston8408 Год назад
I remember watching the first Monday night TNA shoe and will never forget that incredibly stupid domed cage match with the hole at the top that NOBODY it seemed tried out beforehand since NOBODY could get out! The crowd showered the arena with boos, laughs , and a lot of change the channel. I rewatched it on the replay a few days later and they piped in cheers and cut the match by a lot! The poor boys never had a chance at getting out of that thing. Surprisingly I don't think that ever had that kind of match again. I only say that because of how many times TNA did dumb things over and over. Does anyone else remember that?
@frankf684
@frankf684 Год назад
Steel asylum,the one you saw was the fourth one.
@elneco4654
@elneco4654 11 месяцев назад
"Homicide is still trying to climb out to this day."
@toysandjunk
@toysandjunk Год назад
I was in the crowd for the taping of the two go-home shows for Bound For Glory 2011 (Hogan's pretend retirement). The audio was so bad, you couldn't even tell who's music was playing, much less understand what was being said on the mic. That whole segment was baffling live and nobody in the crowd had any idea what was going on. This was my experience of that segment: Hogan came out for the long "THANK YOU HOGAN" entrance, talked for a few minutes, then Sting came out, said something unintelligible, the video played on the big screen (with unintelligible audio), Hogan got all worked up and screamed something into the mic, Sting looked happy about that, said something else that nobody in the arena understood, and left while Hogan flipped out in the ring. WTF!? In those days, TNA needed a better sound system more than anything. Even WWE house shows were far superior, sound-wise.
@wagstaffterror5506
@wagstaffterror5506 Год назад
16:53 wrestling fandom as a whole would come off a lot better to outsiders if we would take this perspective on many events in the business. We love to hate certain matches, moments, things & people in the business for good reasons, but a lot of them came about because we fans begged for it. I feel like Brian had a healthy take on it here & I wish more would see it like this.
@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix
@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix Год назад
Careful Brian, I think "lazy booking" is copyrighted by Cornette.
@yojoeski
@yojoeski Год назад
I was actually just wondering if they'd patched things up. Cornette at one point jokingly called Brian his illegitimate son but they had a falling out a couple years ago over severely disagreeing over AEW's EVPs.
@willymassey8273
@willymassey8273 11 месяцев назад
​@@yojoeski Love to hear Cornette talk about old wrestling, and decimate new stuff, but he has a falling out with everyone, Brian Last has to be a complete yes man.
@yojoeski
@yojoeski 11 месяцев назад
@@willymassey8273 To some extent yes but I've heard Last disagree with him on more than one occasion. The major difference is that Last usually approaches it from a "respectfully disagree" position rather than trying to call Jim out or start a fight over something. I don't think Last is a yes man, but I definitely think he's much more diplomatic than Cornette is and that to me is what makes them work.
@laurenelizabeth405
@laurenelizabeth405 Год назад
this video unlocked so many memories of watching this era of tna lmfao. like my family still quotes the “is it me or is it friggin hot in here?” from when taz joins aces and eights😭
@christophersmith210
@christophersmith210 Год назад
I remember watching TNA during this time as well as RAW and Smackdown. I was only watching Wrestling since 2006, but TNA had wrestlers that I was fans of: AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, The Pope D’Angelo De’nero, James Storm and Christopher Daniels. However, during 2010: it was just the most trainwreck tv show with TNA: failed Monday night wars, ABYSS goes from monster, to poor wish version hulk, to talking about they. Then the Immortal nonsense. And that was just in 2010.
@MovieEggman
@MovieEggman Год назад
Oh man, the Hogan and Bischoff Era of TNA Wrestling feels like a bad childhood fever dream nowadays I’ll give this era some credit, it did create the iconic Bryan Alvarez “Gold Boat” TNA Rant which is still the greatest moment in the history of Wrestling Observer Radio
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 Год назад
8:29 even Russo haters (some justified) have to give the man credit for being the first to rip on Hulk publicly in a way he'd had coming for a very long time. Vince went to bat for the WCW young guns at the time against Hogan, despite knowing he'd be castigated for it (at the time).
@andu1854
@andu1854 11 месяцев назад
The problem with Vince is he has the attention span of a gnat high on meth, many of his ideas would end up going nowhere… I do give him credit for building a midcard and having storylines for them, but man the 3 minute matches, the Raw episode where the Brothers of Destruction ruined every match, and the non stop title changes that made no sense
@hakeemfullerton8645
@hakeemfullerton8645 Год назад
That Hogan/Sting match at BFG wasn't all that bad as the action was decent considering both men's respective ages and the finish made sense a far cry from their previous encounters Plus, it did give us that iconic Hogan face turn after the match
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
The Nasty Boys splatter paint gear is a guilty pleasure for me
@UfodexENMD
@UfodexENMD Год назад
One thing I remember from his TNA run was his encounter with LAX and I can't remember which member accused him of discrimination and Hogan responded with "I'm not racist" which aged like milk
@BlueOpinion
@BlueOpinion Год назад
Did you know Hogan and The Rock are the only guys in the WWF/E to hold 4 different versions of that title. Undertaker, Cena, Triple H and Bob Backlund held 3 versions. (I'm not including custom like Stone Cold and Edge.)
@hitmangfx7162
@hitmangfx7162 Год назад
To answer the question...No, because they were headed in that direction anyway, but his presence didn't give them the boost they hoped for. Russo did significantly more damage to the brand (and having Dixie's support for awhile was a red flag)
@djpegao
@djpegao Год назад
07:26 *A WILD SLAPNUTS APPEARS!!*
@jacob9538
@jacob9538 10 месяцев назад
Brian in this video: "Bischof doesn't get enough credit for what he did in WCW." Brian later in this video: "Bischof's last great idea was 20 years ago and it wasn't even his idea!"
@rmcdudmk212
@rmcdudmk212 Год назад
Hulk is iconic but he is also the kind of guy that makes it hard to like him for sure.
@lostalone9320
@lostalone9320 Год назад
The frustrating thing is that it's not hard to book something amazing with Hogan - Book the Old Hogan redemption angle. An old deluded heel with huge ego who can't really wrestle, having bad matches and winning anyway t massive boos... But eventually he gets humbled by something, and he becomes a mentor to some young guy you want to push, and eventually he agrees to one last match where he just takes a lot of punishment but refuses to go down. He hulks up for the last ever time for the win, then gets carted out because his knees exploded.
@wondermcthunder8835
@wondermcthunder8835 Год назад
ur stealing the HAWK's Thunder Zayne......
@WhatAisleIsTheMustardOn
@WhatAisleIsTheMustardOn Год назад
If he's not careful he's going to get a brick to the head
@ricardonb6375
@ricardonb6375 Год назад
@@WhatAisleIsTheMustardOn Or a punch to the gut
@nickbanks7954
@nickbanks7954 Год назад
@@ricardonb6375 a kick to the slaso and the stroke.
@kokotheclown2588
@kokotheclown2588 Год назад
And take his girl
@wondermcthunder8835
@wondermcthunder8835 Год назад
@@WhatAisleIsTheMustardOn he might slap him one..
@gunder01
@gunder01 Год назад
C'mon, Brian, surely you remember the appropriate schoolyard couplet for that situation is "Are they kissing? Yes they are!"
@redbigun
@redbigun Год назад
You can't convince me that Hulk Hogan doesn't want to have relations with his own daughter. He's more loving and more intimate with her than he is with his own wife. It's insane what you don't notice when you're a teen watching this stuff unfold.
@cumexolaf3276
@cumexolaf3276 Год назад
can't blame him. his daughter looks quite delicious.
@andu1854
@andu1854 11 месяцев назад
Donald trump syndrome
@rickyrosay33977
@rickyrosay33977 11 месяцев назад
Just the picture of him putting sunscreen on her butt and that one episode of hogan knows best where he straight up picks ice cream of Brooke's breasts
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 8 месяцев назад
Seems to be a problem with a lot of rich guys with power and a sec addiction. The way they live affects their brain.
@Beatnu3000
@Beatnu3000 Год назад
I bought the January 4th episode through the PlayStation store way back when, and it’s still on my PS3 til this day. Was hoping Homicide’s awkward climb out of the Xscape hole would be preserved in full but no such luck lol
@JMC1396
@JMC1396 Год назад
Thanks for all the work you put into this month... Brother Jack Brian Zane Dude!!
@VanillaMidgetSSBM
@VanillaMidgetSSBM 11 месяцев назад
-HH
@andypaps818
@andypaps818 Год назад
In short yes , yes it did
@deandrenicholas2545
@deandrenicholas2545 3 месяца назад
Absolutely
@RedMonsterInc
@RedMonsterInc Год назад
As someone who spent a few years on the outlaw mudshow southern indy wrasslin scene, "pilly gimmick" makes me laugh every time I hear it. Everything is a gimmick, my friends. 😂
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega Год назад
Challenge for this video: see how long it takes for Ed Leslie to show up. For wherever the Hulkster goes, the Beefer is never far behind. EDIT: Mentioned at 4:42, there we go. xD
@HuwhyteMan
@HuwhyteMan Год назад
23:02 This statement here sums up post 1980's Hulk Hogan so perfectly!¡!¡! Not to say that he's never done the job for anybody ever but there are so many instances where he delayed a guys push or contributed to the demise of their career altogether just because "that didn't work for him brother". For years an up and coming babyface would've gotten massive (good) heat by beating Hogan clean yet you really don't see any instances of that. The same could be true of a heel beating Hogan whilst he was a babyface, resulting in massive heat to compliment the push. He could've helped sooooo many of the boys later on in his career yet he rarely (if ever) did so.
@trosinesss
@trosinesss Год назад
Ngl I kinda liked the Joker Sting, Sting/Hogan feud
@kyleshiflet9952
@kyleshiflet9952 Год назад
I remember watching this whole experiment and praying that it would end quickly. I hated everything about it, especially the immortal storyline The Aces and Eights was good
@ridush14
@ridush14 Год назад
Love the videos as always, BZ stays supplying great content.
@dylanogg347
@dylanogg347 Год назад
I'll give Hogan credit. His on-screen exit was and still is hilarious.
@Dynaman21
@Dynaman21 Год назад
Dixie is ultimately to blame, since she wanted to be in charge over any logical sense, and had no intention of selling her company even when it was painfully clear she was in over her head.
@Celticgamer89
@Celticgamer89 Год назад
And she told the roster to respect her decision and look what happened.
@DerekScottBland
@DerekScottBland Год назад
I still believe her father kept funding her fascination with wrestling because he knew it would keep his idiot child from wanting a higher up job at Panda Energy where her incompetence could cause real damage.
@Matt561
@Matt561 Год назад
To hell with the algorithm I want the full intro
@DasKame
@DasKame Год назад
10:29 Haha Orlando Jordan vs. Rob Terry I miss that feud xD
@Slackurate
@Slackurate Год назад
it's pretty obvious, but I'm inclined to reframe the Hogan & Co period of TNA as more the most visible symptom of what happens when you have Dixie's insane infatuation with ex-WWF/E guys and giving them boatloads of money for the pleasure of showing up. taking into account Kia basically saying they gave her $40k a year, Daniels saying he was damn near the red in his bank account, all the bullshit with Joe, and not paying AJ, it's becoming clear that it wasn't just a story of not appreciating what you have in favor of finally getting the toy you always wanted as a kid, but that they never once cared about the talent that gave TNA its identity. it almost seems inevitable.
@pistolpaul65
@pistolpaul65 Год назад
Gotta be honest Brian, youre the only creator I dont skip product placements, love seeing Claude and Big Haas’ vignettes
@sdfilmproductions4193
@sdfilmproductions4193 Год назад
TNA was great in the early 2000's with the likes of Styles, Daniel's, Abyss, Samoa Joe, Jarrett, Raven, Petey Williams, Sting, Hernandez etc. The six sided ring and the hardcore attitude along with the NWA title and the look of the Impact zone gave it a great ambience and made for exciting television....They should have just kept that format and the stars they had. Instead of bringing in "politicians" like Hogan who was just out for himself.
@imfreviews
@imfreviews 11 месяцев назад
Brian, have you listened to Bischoff and Prichard talk about this time in TNA? I found it quite enlightening. Hogan's gonna Hogan...he wasn't the main issue. The issues were in the back office, where Dixie and the Carters believed (amongst other nonsense) that they could just inject Hogan into the mix and that would be a panacea, and didn't know what they didn't know. As Bruce Prichard said, "you could have dropped the Undertaker and John Cena in the middle of a TNA ring in that time, and it would have barely moved the needle."
@Dylan-cu4ty
@Dylan-cu4ty Год назад
Crazy thing is Impact is still a thing. But between 2004-2007, shit was awesome.
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 Год назад
Sadly, they seem to have less than 500 dedicated fans in attendance these days.
@brettt141
@brettt141 Год назад
i would like to see w3 cover dusty rhodes in wwf cause its interesting how vince kept trying to ruin the rhodes family even under his own brand
@nohalo3forme
@nohalo3forme Год назад
There was *one* appearance where Hogan did bring up TNA, and it was American Idol of all shows! It was a very brief mention that didn’t mean anything for them, but it still happened.
@jakeheerwagen8007
@jakeheerwagen8007 Год назад
I was like 12 when Hogan came into TNA and I still remember that episode where the 6 sided ring changed. And I couldn’t understand it then and couldn’t believe how fast it went downhill
@comatoasted82
@comatoasted82 Год назад
Man, I've had that intro in my head bad the past few days. "W,W,W, let's get it!"
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 Год назад
We're at the point where this is becoming nostalgic to me. lol
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 Год назад
If you think Brian Zane is miserable, The Lapsed Fan decided to go all in on everything Hogan in TNA, including his lawsuit against the spinal fusion company that promised him one last go in the ring.
@victoryusmc
@victoryusmc Год назад
Already rewatching this.
@JacksonLane02
@JacksonLane02 Год назад
Impact Wrestling after this and the whole Styles baby Doll stuff is lucky to still be in business although not at the level it did during the TNA vs WWE Monday war aka the death of TNA as a WWE competitor
@claymathewselevator8121
@claymathewselevator8121 Год назад
It’s sad the Claire Lynch storyline was my introduction to AJ, Christopher Daniels and Frankie Kazarian
@DSFking
@DSFking Год назад
Calling that a war is generous lol
@ryanchase9332
@ryanchase9332 Год назад
@@DSFking It's like the Falklands. For a war, you need one side to occasionally win. WCW was winning the battle against WWE until things went bad. TNA never got close to that.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega Год назад
Bloody hell, what was the timeline for this, Claire Lynch and Aces & Eights? Did they all overlap or come along around the same time? What a holy trinity of shit.
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