Did I Just Solve 3 of Zelda's Biggest Mysteries? - 3 The Legend of Zelda Theories! 

Fun Fact: Farosh is in this video. Can you spot them? 🔍👀

If Zelda is the incarnation of the goddess... the incarnation of the bargainer must be, of course, Beedle

Regarding statues moving themselves - you missed the part where the Forgotten Temple statue raises herself up after getting power from the three springs. It's definitely something they can do.

I would argue the Barginer statues are more neutral than evil

In art terminology, the space around a subject is called “negative space” so the three pieces of the triforce when joined create a void of negative space, no need for a physical dark piece when it’s place is implied

I love the idea that Demise is essentially a Dark Goddess's chosen Knight, fighting to defend their chaotic land from the invading Golden Goddesses. Such a cool idea and I wish I could play that game now.

Maybe Nintendo is still trying to keep botw a mystery on where it’s placed in the timeline. That’s why they named events from many previous games, to keep us confused. Idk tho

What I found interesting is that the Bargainer Statue in the Great Abondoned Mine looks like it was partially excavated before the Zonai decided to just build their structures around them. I wonder if after they found that one, they took it upon themselves to find the rest. Some only partially uncovered.

It seems far more likely that Botw and TotK happen after the other games in the split timelines. That means even when Zelda went back in time, she was still after those games. The reasoning for this is the existence of the Rito, who were present in TotK's past that Zelda travels to. They didn't exist before the original Imprisoning War. That means the Imprisoning War in TotK is a new one. Because of her references of past games in BotW, that seems to imply that at some point the split timelines reconverged at some point in the legendary past, before the Zonai descended. Most likely some hereforeto unknown cataclysm wiped out most of Hyrulian civilization and it wasn't until it recovered enough for Rauru to come down and forge it into a kingdom that the pieces for the eternal conflict could resume.

In reference to the Tetraforce theory, there’s also four goddesses in Hyrule: Faron, Farore, Nayru, and Hylia. The Four Sword split Link into four. Four elements. Four main races on the outskirts of Hyrule. Even the Fierce Deity has an upside down piece of the triforce on his breastplate

I love the idea that the hole inside the Triforce is a fourth dark piece. And that a god created chaos before the other three came down and enclosed it. But in reality I think Nintendo just did a hard restart of the whole series with breath of the wild them tears of the Kingdom, which doesn’t make my heart happy.

In a ton of creation myths and stories the word “chaos” is not the definition we know well of disorder and craziness but it usually means nothing or emptiness (like in the Greek Creation Myth), so in the creation story they meant that there was nothing until the 3 goddesses created the world of hyrule not that there was a world of war and chaos before the golden goddesses made hyrule

I think the fourth piece being the light force instead of an evil counterpart to the goddesses is more likely since Din blessing Ganondorf in twilight princess would indicate they they are all neutral or that Din is the rebellious if not straight up evil one

I like the idea more and more of BotW and TotK being a new timeline that has some of the same historical events of the original but sort of remixed. So much of TotK’s history feels almost like a retelling or reimagining of OoT to me-we see the Ganondorf bowing to the king scene (where Zelda looks on and knows that it’s a lie), Link having to travel to regional temples and awaken new incarnations of ancient sages, and the ancient Sage of Light, the one who built the Temple of Time, who hasn’t reincarnated (Rauru. He may be the king, but he battles with the sages and has light powers.) the secret stones could even be called a new version of the medallions. I think this new timeline might even be one where the Triforce was forgotten, or hidden so well that no one remembers it.

First real "you lost me" point, the bargainer statues needing to be connected to a dark god to speak through the hylia statues has no backing. It would be slightly more acceptable saying they were connected to hylia herself since there's at least the evidence that one of them can speak through her statue. The entire Demise's origin theory section relies on that dark god assertion which still has no evidence to stand on and twists it into another 'the villain was the good guy all along'. There is no need for the timeline to have converged, it would only be necessary for a a convergence based theory. For zelda to get back to tears of the koroks it would just be a matter of the timeline that the game takes place in occuring as usual. If Totk wasn't just a reboot of the entire series anyway.

Im a big believer in placing BOTW and TOTK in their own timeline since there is a timeline split in Skyward Sword that nobody really talks about that they would fit really well into.

Interesting... there has been a prominent theme of fours in botw/totk, after all. Perhaps the god of darkness was responsible for Ganondorf's escape from imprisonment in Twilight Princess? Perhaps it was more deliberate than just some "divine prank".

Nintendo: “THERE IS NO HIDDEN 4TH PIECE!” Also Nintendo: “In Twilight Princess there are 4 Light Beasts and 3 of them are named after the Golden Goddesses.”

Caught your last TOTK video and I was surprised you were a relatively small channel. The audio quality, editing and content are all definitely up to par, big fan of how well put together everything is. And you're good at talking, theorizing and adding a little personality into things. Keep at it, man. I think you're definitely headed somewhere.

The most interesting part about the tetraforce theory, in my opinion, is that it’s the only fan theory that Nintendo has not only acknowledged, but outright refuted

The Imprisoning War in TOTK is almost certainly the second “imprisoning war”. I still think you could say the timeline is convergent, mostly because it’s an interesting reading of the story, but also because the previous Links’ armors are now canon in TOTK. Just say the goddesses did it or something.

the idea of these statues (even hylia's) moving around when no one is looking at them just like weeping angels from doctor who is pretty creepy

i’m really liking your content, i love the idea that there is some type of metaphorical tetra force and anti hylia, but one think i wondered was maybe instead of hylia moving the statue instead it was actually zelda? i mean when she moved into the hateno village house it was directly in front of her… perhaps she took some initiative and moved it herself while the statue mistook her for hylia since she technically is

I'm so glad someone else noticed that the three Goddesses "descended upon the chaos that was Hyrule", meaning Hyrule had to have existed beforehand. Din absolutely sealed the Depths beneath the Surface, which is why demons came up through fissures in the earth before Skyward Sword.

the bargainer statue being underneath the temple of time in the sky, there's a sidequest that when you finish, a construct tell you it actually used to be grounded

This was more lore and education than I have EVER hoped to receive. Whether it was about the goddess Hylia, the horned statue, the triforce/tetraforce, what the 3 dragons of hyrule did during its creation, and demise and the dark god. This whole video was a BLAST! Thanks

You are a genius theorist and I LOVE it!!! I thought everyone just forgot about the Tetra Force theory. I think this does make a lot of sense, especially when looking at the series through a Japanese cultural lense. Keep up the great work! I really like your theories and how to tend to ignore any information not in the games themselves. I would imagine that the Japanese audience has a deeper understanding of Zelda than we do in the West.

I don’t know about the theory regarding the bargainer, their dialogue seems to imply they’re neutral, while the concept behind and the dialogue with the horned statue seems to imply that they’re to some degree more evil, and the Zelda series seems to quite often have a distinction between darkness as an element of nature and as it relates to evil. For example, a lot of games have darkness represented with the sages while also having it represented by the antagonist

That's... actually really interesting.

I haven't watched a lot of your videos (admittedly just the draconification one before this), but I'm SO glad someone has talked about the converging timeline theory. I was already solidly in the boat after going through BOTW twice, but TOTK really sealed the deal, mainly with the reference armor sets. Previously amiibo-locked, you could find ALL of them in the depths (except for the Link's Awakening armor set, which you DO find on the surface, which is interesting in and of itself.) Since they're now part of the base game as opposed to fun little add-ons (they still are, but you can now get them BOTH ways), same with the BOTW DLC additions (Majora's Mask, Zant's Helm, and Midna's Helmet), it sort of confirms in and of itself the timeline having to converge at some point. The only thing I would disagree with is the time and place Zelda gets sent back in time to: with Rauru's Hyrule, there are still the existence of the Rito, who don't exist until the Adult Timeline, meaning sometime after the timeline convergence, but before the Great Calamity of 10,000 years before BOTW/TOTK. Overall, though, a fantastic, FANTASTIC video and I look forward to watching more of your content!

It makes sense that demise is the chosen hero of darkness, if you consider the final boss fight of the demon king in totk having similar abilities to link. It was link fighting dark link

Coming together of the Triforce to seal chaos makes perfect sense. Every time we see the Triforce shattered chaos, ensues in essence, unleashing chaos once again.

I absolutely love this! Your theory makes so much sense and brings together so many questions I’ve had for the longest time. Unless something major changes, to me this is basically canon.

the best theory I've heard so far about the horned god and the bargainers, makes me think they might not be part of the tetra force, but everyone seems to forget Lorule is a thing and had it's own triforce restored, the upside down triforce I've always wondered if it has it's own gods attached to each piece, or was Lorule a product of the three standard goddesses creation. What if the bargainers and the horned god are just two of the lorulean gods, that when their world finally did fall had to reach into Hyrule for worship.

This is one of the most well made and creepy intro on all of ZeldaTube. Good job man🔥

There's also a parallel between this and the Four Sword in Minish cap too. The sword is restored by first receiving the Earth element, and then the elements often associated with the other Goddesses (since in OOT the magic powers you receive are associate with 2 of those elements, but with Nayru's power being called Nayru's love instead of something associated with water). So if the God or Goddess of Chaos does exist they are likely associated with the color purple. And purple is usually associated with Shadow, rather than Earth in Zelda games (which would make sense if the Goddess of Darkness/Shadow/Chaos was the Goddess that made the planet or Earth, and the other Goddesses just overwrote it). Also the Shadow Medallion in OOT features an upside down purple triangle, surrounded by 3 circles while the Light Medallion features 3 gold triangles facing in more of an upward direction also with 3 circles, like the pattern shown in this video that was believed to be associated with the 3 eyes the Zonai have, or the 3 Goddesses. And then Lorule, a parrallel version of Hyrule, where the power of the Goddesses was fading away because the Triforce was destroyed, all the parallel versions of characters that usually have yellow hair, the color of Hylia's hair as well as the triforce, have purple hair instead. Like the yellow color of the Light Medallion and the purple color of the Shadow Medallion. Also the power of the goddesses being lost drove the land into chaos and made all plants start to die, like how it was before they used their powers to form the lands of Hyrule.

It makes a lot of sense. I agree 100%. yesterday, on twitter, I replied this: Botw is about the wilderness Totk talks about civilization, the "kingdom" There's room for trilogy, to talk about gods, now, and with a title that plays with it, breath, tears and... ??? I mean, there's a hook also. The depths (poor explained), the poe receiver...

At 9:04 there’s literally a 4th circle in the underworld on the mural! Totally thought that was why you were showing the mural at first.

I loved your theories, but I’m already subscribed, so I had to leave a comment. The one about the tetraforce and Demise being the knight gave chills. And that ‘not a curse’ part is what I felt, too. Of course light can’t exist without darkness. But this was great!

I love hearing your voice in these analysis videos! Great quality content too, and no dumb gimmicks. Great job!

Definitely gave me more to think about. I can tell this is going to be a video I watch over and over so that I can think about each of your theories one or two at a time.

Phenomenal editing. I feel like I'm seeing the birth of a channel with 1 million subscribers - that brief point in time before it gets noticed and takes off. Hopefully the RU-vid algorithm is kind to you, since you deserve it.

I love a few of these theory pieces. I completely agree with the existence of a dark deity to contest goddess hylia. Due to the creation of the dark master sword. And it's animating spirit Girahim. And there has always been a source of demons, designated to be the demon realm. Or dark realm which is usually a dark mirror of Hyrule. But I have issue of it being solely demons. Because of a link between worlds where we see lowrule. Filled with regular people trying to live their lives. They even had an entire inverted triforce themselves. And Princess Hilda still seemed good. Not like a dark dimension evil Zelda. But that hitches on Lowrule, and the dark world/demon dimension being not the same mirrored reflection of Hyrule. In D&d the primary material plane has 2 mirror reflections. 1 being the feywild, and 2 being the shadowfel. What I'm thinking is that yes your theory that the golden goddess trio building an entire world on top of the primordial/demon filled world is interesting. But I think that there are multiple shadow versions of Hyrule. Each with their own casting light. I refute your idea of a real tetra force. As I always saw the 4th triangle under the shield to represent Goddess Hylia herself. The 3 golden goddesses ascended to a higher plane of existence. While Hylia stayed bound in flesh to the people. (Even though you are right, that a version of Hylia's goddess power still acts independent of Zelda in the form of the Hylia statues.

"Let's just put a bargainer statue exactly underneath the temple of time and fans will come up with a logical explanation."

Your theories actually make sense and it was interesting to hear, nice!

I personally think that The Horned Statue is the god of evil, like Jerrin says outside of the hole, and The Bargainer Statues were a past race of Demi gods that were like Hades, guiding them through the afterlife.

Another good video. I remember the first time people really started talking about the convergence theory was after Mat Pat (yes game theory) made a video. It was a very flawed video but also quite on spot. He thought that the game Hyrule Warriors (the Wii U one) suggested that a convergence of timelines is on its way. I played the game and was kinda obsessed with it as some point and ngl while it seems to not be canon, it… kinda is? Its similar to what’s happening with FNAF, where there are now books that are telling a story completely separate from FNAF and the original game characters but hint to whats going on in the actual game lore. I’m bringing this up because the convergence theory might connect your previous theory about light and dark. The whole game of Hyrule warriors is about a battle between light and dark!!! There are two non canon characters representing light and dark, the two are against one another but at last they’re sisters. I might be wrong about this, its been about a decade that I haven’t played that game but I think we see more than 3 triforces in the game too…. Tbh it was a good lore-packed game. There are lots of references and stuff thats fun to revisit before TOTK and after BOTW (stuff like textures, weapons, characters and places that we see being hinted to in TOTK a lot) I’m fairly certain this game really sparked a lot about the convergence theory specially since the literal level selection of the game is a time lime fork that converges.

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A lot of talk about light and dark... I'm going to point something out about the light and dark abilities in the Switch games, but this contains spoilers for them both, so I'm writing this first as a disclaimer. If we ignore the fact that the powers are called Light and Dark, and we ignore any affiliations or opinions we have with any characters, what have we seen these powers *actually* do? The power of Light in BotW created an explosion that killed a bunch of guardians and another later that destroyed or sealed away Calamity Ganon. In Tears of the Kingdom, we see it wipe out a whole bunch of giant creatures, the molduga. We also see that this power will repair and amplify a particular sword, a tool of war used to kill or seal away. Let's not forget the associated elements to these powers. The light _element_ is what Dazzlefruit and Mirrors hit things with. They stun creatures to make them vulnerable to attack, and if they're a certain type of creature, they kill them outright. Ancient Arrows and Light Arrows are shown to be the same, so these arrows are made from harnessed light of some sort. Ancient Arrows remove creatures hit by them entirely, either disintegrating or banishing them. If you cook Dazzlefruit, adding some light power to your food, you get 1/2 heart per fruit used and no effect. That's the bare minimum health for any cooked item that gives any at all, and the lack of any bonus is interesting. Star Fragments are also related to Light, and they can be fused to weapons to power them up, adding the ability to create blasts of Light that can kill creatures hit by them. You can cook Star Fragments as well, but they don't add much health to the created meal and add no special effect of their own. Based entirely on how we see it used, the power of Light is associated heavily with killing and banishment. What does the power of Darkness do? Every time the Blood Moon rises we see the power of darkness restore and revive creatures who've been killed. In Tears of the Kingdom, we see the first Blood Moon create this plethora of creatures to begin with. We see that Darkness creates Calamity Ganon over time as well (multiple times over the years). In Breath of the Wild, we see it take control of war machines and turn them against their users. We also see it create blight copies of the pilots of the biggest of these war machines as part of doing so. In Tears of the Kingdom, we see it create copies of Princess Zelda & Ganondorf. It also manifests as substances that can be toxic to touch (Malice & Gloom), one of which creates a piece of a creature (Malice creating flying stal- heads). There are weapons infused by Gloom as well, which can punish their wielder for using them against creatures by draining them of life as well. At the start of TotK we see the power of Darkness used to disarm somebody (both of their weapon and of their arm), and lift a castle into the air. Later we see it take control of a construct to use it against its creator. As for the Darkness element, there's an item called a Dark Clump, which is a clump of pure Darkness. It does not function as a weapon (which is interesting here), but you can cook one for a bonus heart of resistance to being effected by gloom, which means that Darkness acts similar to a snake venom. You can consume it to resist the damage it can cause elsewhere. It's its own cure. Based entirely on how we see it used, the power of Darkness is associated heavily with creating life, opposing or punishing the use of weaponry (including turning advanced weaponry back on its masters), and replicating an opponent's strength and abilities. It also does a better job of supporting survival when consumed than Light. The only time we actually see Ganondorf kill anyone (outside of Game Overs) is with a knife that isn't a Gloom weapon. He was hidden while using that weapon, but he was also channeling Zelda's strength and (some of her) abilities at the time. She started that encounter hidden, ready to ambush him. He turned that (being hidden) against her by becoming similarly hidden himself. Which of these powers is supposed to be the "good" one again? That is not to say that _Ganondorf_ is good. How a power is used matters. In context, Ganondorf is consistently the aggressor and the Light power's pure destructive force has been used primarily in defense in these games... A good power can certainly be used to do evil and vice versa. It's just interesting to look at the details.

Imagine if the timelines didn’t converge and in two other timelines the light dragon is just there, chilling in the raised island in the sky waiting for a none existant link to be brought to that safe place and later pull out the restored mastersword *In the other timelines botw isn’t in (if the timeline didn’t converge) we can assume the mastersword didn’t break else Zelda would be receiving 3 masterswords to heal

This is good! I think if the Zelda team says there's no fourth piece, then there probably isn't. BUT I like your theory about it because instead of saying there's another piece, it's just saying that the fourth piece is the negative space in the middle. It works perfectly on a thematic level. The Demise's origin part was really cool too, "the sword that seals the light" just sounds metal, I love it! Long paragraph about the timeline ahead, short attention spans beware: I definitely buy into the timeline convergence theory. I've heard people say Nintendo rebooted the series or whatever because there are some contradictions, but they haven't at any point in the 6 years since BOTW came out completely changed the timeline or announced that BOTW is a reboot. All they said is that BOTW takes place at the very end of the timeline and left us to "figure it out". I'm not sure which specific theory I like best tho... Like at first, I thought the founding of Hyrule mentioned in TOTK was the same one from the end of Skyward Sword, and y'know any inconsistencies could just be the result of a story being passed down for a long time. Then I also thought, maybe the past in TOTK also takes place at the end of the timeline, after every game before BOTW and this world just has an impossibly long history. This makes a little more sense to me and I personally like it because it doesn't require past games to be reinterpreted. This way BOTW and TOTK can be "separate" and it doesn't exclude previous games from discussions about the new ones As for how the timelines actually converge, no idea. I heard one theory from Thinking At Max Volume about the possibility of a dragon break kind of thing like in Elder Scrolls where all possible timelines become equally real. I think he explains how it's possible pretty well in his video and I like it a lot, but I'll admit I had a hard time following toward the end. Definitely go check out his video if you haven't tho

15:55 - It could be a new continuity in which all of the other games are legends. The two new games really seem to be their own thing.

All you need is like a solid headband or a hair band, see how it looks pushed back but otherwise just absolutely S tier!

How much would it cost to do the evil toby macquire dance....

I'm sad that Ghirahim is just dead. The master sword can be reforged, why not the evil one? That's my favorite character archetype, the Number Two who just wants to serve so badly that kinda seems like a love or obsession for their Number One. Now he's just gone.

I always figured that the Horned Statue was Chancellor Cole from Spirit Tracks. The two horns is kind of a giveaway, but Cole was also able to interact with someone's spiritual enemy, and it can be assumed that greed would be a motivator

Yeah, knowing how absolutely awful and cruel the goddesses are already portrayed as (the cycle of damnation they keep doing throughout all the games because of demises curse, the flooding of hyrule, the banishing of the twili, other things) them coming in and ruining their sister's chaotic demon world and kicking her out seems pretty on brand. And hylia doing nothing to stop them.

Anyone else notice how the backs of the Bargainer Statues looks like the face of a boar?? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eJ_GmwhAxTk.html

Convergence makes sense on a marketing level. There's no more distinction between the handheld and console anymore, so there's no more point continuing timelines that won't be in production anymore. Bringing it all together will simplify it and reduce headache going forward since this can be used to effectively hard-reboot without destroying continuity and serialise the story down one path. Won't do much good going forward if you have to make obligatory side titles to continue with the story you're trying to make. Better to let those other timelines get the occasional reference game, like Link taking on some other side enemy in a small top down adventure. Otherwise, it looks like they made up their minds that this is where they want to go and continue, which means they need to curb the rest of the side stories. So convergence would be a good way to do that, and Zelda taking a time skip definitely helps to effectively bootstrap a timeline into convergence with divine intervention.

The tetra force stuff was so convincing it’s probably going to be my new head cannon now whether I like it or not. Really good video dudes

Smashing together the timelines never sat well with me at all. There's no event I can think of that could make it so all the continuities converging make any sense. That said, making the original Hyrule Warriors canon to the Official Zelda timeline would give Breath Of The Wild a chance to explain how it knows about the events of the from parallel timelines. Throwing characters and locations from the Era of Twilight and the Era of the Sky etc. into a single game just long enough for their battles to become legends passed through the royal family lines up with Breath Zelda's speech if you stick Breath of the Wild some after the events of Hyrule Warriors. I know, I don't like it either. Throwing Zelda back to the "founding of Hyrule" could mean the founding of *her* Hyrule. For all we know the cataclysmic events of the Wind Waker are just one of several ends to kingdoms named "Hyrule" that have happened throughout history. There's no real need to try to squeeze Zelda past the pesky time split if it makes more sense that multiple Hyrule Kingdoms have risen and fallen ad infinitum since skyward sword and the one founded by Rauru was merely the latest one.

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Dude your video style is lovely the quality is pleasant excited for more!

Great video. I especially like your first two theories. I admit that when you started by talking about the Tetraforce I was going to turn the video off lol. But your thoughts actually line up with a lot of mine, and you brought up some things I hadn't thought of before.

The Imprisoning War only happens in the hero is defeated timeline--and the tears of the kingdom lore is all about that so Zelda travelled down that timeline

This was a very well-thought-out and impressive theory!! And the production value in the video is so high, I really love the editing style and the shots of you talking behind the journal were really amusing. Thank you for working so hard to make such high quality content! I hope it gets the attention and respect it deserves!

I never thought much about the tetra force but you got me thinking it'd be really cool now. It's now my head canon.

It’s incredible that this is the first video I’ve watched linking the apparent lack of a Tetraforce to the Japanese superstition surrounding the number 4 when, in hindsight, you’d think that it’d be one of the easier Zelda theories to come up with.

I just realized how desperately I want a metroidvania Zelda game. And with the art style of the 00:52 Ocarina of Time illustrations ala. Hollow Knight, Cuphead, Guilty Gear sort of hand animated style graphics. How dope would that be!?

Amazing presentation! Great production values too. Subbed.

I feel like the existence of the Rito during the imprisoning war kinda screws up all of the timelines. They didn't come into existence until after "Ocarina of Time's hero gets sent back" timeline. The world gets flooded with salt water and the fresh water Zora evolve into Rito to fly out and survive and exist in Wind Waker.

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This is an excellent video, and has absolutely gotten you a new subscriber!

I really enjoyed this video. Keep up the great work my brother.

Just a theory on Demise: He has a very knightly, warrior personality. Examples of this are him meeting link in single combat and him waiting patiently for link to re draw his sword if it gets stuck to keep the fight fair. What if Demise was a warrior god worshipped as a god of war before he tried to conquer the world? This could explain his honourable approach to combat. This would also mirror stories from Greek mythology, where the god of war Ares battles the other gods of Olympus. It’s just a theory, but it’s cool to think about :)

I had a similar theory and interpretation of Demise's origin, with a huge difference: Demise isn't a chosen warrior fighting for s Dark God, HE IS The Dark God. Said by Fi "He has conquered time itself", we know also that he's the source of malice and monsters, and I believe he was angry at the goddesses for tampering his world and imposing their will. Demise made his own dark sword and servant, and a proof of him being a Dark God would be the fact that he was unstoppable until he and Hylia fought each other. Gods are immortal, but they are vulnerable to their own kind, even so Hylia couldn't defeat it, only weaken and seal him. The reasons why SS Link defeated Demise were three: 1-The Master Sword being a direct counter and kryptonite for the Demon King. 2-Impa said that Demise would not be at his best yet despite recovering his body, because it would take him time for him to absorb Zelda's (Hylia's) soul. So Link still beat Demise when he was vulnerable. 3-The last 2 are actually the most important and go in tandem: Demise was overconfident. He did not saw himself loosing against a human, while he respected Link's courage and strength as a member of his kind, he didn't acknowledge him as a threat, nor worthy foe. He recovered his body and thought "I won", without the Goddess Hylia no one could be able to stand on his way, regardless of him not yet recovering his full power, and this made him even more vulnerable to defeat. In other words, Link had to take advantage of all of this to defeat it in a weakened state or else it would be impossible, most likely because Demise would've recovered all his Godly power and literally be unkillable for a mortal.

i always felt the center triangle of the Triforce represented something that had been removed, a darker force as it would be, so its really cool if the God of Chaos is real because it would also explain things like Dark Link and of course the Underworld/Deep where all the Demonic like beasts/creatures come form in the first place.

Man, your videos are absolutely fascinating! On an unrelated note, you look like RE4 Leon❤

What if Hylia and the horned statue are life and death, remember that Zelda as the light dragon, you can harvest materials from her and they can heal by using them attatched to weapons

Oh my fucking god, from a lore/storytelling perspective, revealing the Triforce to be a symbolic representation of Din, Farore, and Nayru's allegiance and the seal they have on the God of Chaos (the empty triangle locked in place by the other Goddesses) would be so smart. It recontextualizes everything we know about the Triforce without turning into something new. Plus it would feed into the 'No End, No Beginning' mythology LoZ has. What we once assumed was a relic ushering in the beginning of creation is instead the secured aftermath of an ongoing war.

it would make sense that all three timelines would converge in a way, all of them would end up where events of BOTW and TOTK occur.

Its interesting the detail Twilight princess also mentions where light cannot exist without darkness and also Gannondorf mentioning the history of light and shadow being written in blood after his defeat with link.

So the Golden Goddesses covered up the Chaos Goddess, and then Hylia covered up Demise, and then Rauru covered up Ganondorf. Talk about sweeping it all under the rug until Link shows up.

nice one. But I'm still hesitant about accepting the unified timeline theory. I would take a closer look on this later, but I think Zelda going back in time probably opened a new branch rather than going to an stablished one. But I still like your approach to the whole light and darkness, that's something I myself considered, you did a great job of explaining it.

The theory I like best is that Demise is from Lorule. His sword is just the Lorule version of the master sword. And Girahim is just Lorule's version of Fi.

I love these theories, thank you for sharing! ❤

I've seen the Timeline Convergence theory used in a few fanfics, but the point where they converge was set in the Hyrule Warriors game instead of BOTW, so that could also explain why Zelda knows history from all three timelines.

Reused names are proving to be a common occurrence in Zelda lore that is starting to breed a lot of confusion. So basically: not the same Rauru, not the same Imprisoning War, not the same Ganondorf, heck, maybe not even the same Hyrule

The main issue I have with the convergence theory is that the TotK events that take place in the past are essentially a retelling of OoT so it’s unlikely they would take place just after Skyward Sword. This fact, along with many other things, leads me to believe that this is another timeline that branches off at the end of SS and has many similar (if not the same) events that took place in other timelines.

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8:33 didnt expect to see bully mcguire in this video

I personally think that Zelda goes back to some kind of convergence of the timelines, after something possibly happened to need a new founding of Hyrule, and that’s how we get references from other games and such but it doesn’t retcon the timeline

You know what would be cool? If Nintendo updates every game to include a flying light dragon in the distance to show that Zelda was alive all those previous eras

Dang you went IN on this one. Well done

12:30 "[Din] cultivated the land and created the red earth." [Farore] produced all life forms who would uphold the law." [Nayru] poured her wisdom onto the earth and gave the spirit of law to the world." So...could the "fourth piece" of the Triforce, represented by the empty space in the middle of the three golden pieces, just be the ABSENCE of these things? The absence of a world, absence of life, absence of law = the Depths, the Bargainers, Demise, the monsters, all of it

My guy just articulated my head cannon and put it on the internet. I approve sir!

Very underrated video!!😮 this was awesome

With regard to the timeline placement, I'm convinced that it's not necessarily a convergence or a retcon. The previous games are all legends (hence the title of each game) and should not be interpreted as historical accounts but rather as stories that were passed down. Our playing of the game is experiencing a legend being told, not an actual account. Based on this, of course there will be conflicting stories, but there are also strings of truth that can be followed in order to try to figure out what happened. This also explains the maps changing. Personally I think it was an elegant way to tie everything together and it seems clear that they have added easter eggs from all timelines to demonstrate this very thing. They're all legends.

What if botw and totk are both a convergence AND a reboot. Think of it like this, time forked and regardless of which line you follow, going back will lead you to the stem of that fork. So with zelda going back she both brought them together and created a new line.

I have a theory. Dinraal and Naydra are the Draconified versions of Din and Nayru from the Oracle games, whilst Farosh is the person from the unreleased 3rd Oracle game