Dear Spidey: Your behavioral analysis is spot on! This is such a tragedy. I worked on James Cameron's "Titanic" for almost a year. He is extremely intelligent both artistically and logically. I'm happy to see how aging has expanded his ability to feel empathy and compassion. Dare I even say humility? The interview looked as though it took place in his kitchen. Plain and simple, without a display of all the accolades he's garnered over the years. Very appropriate for this somber moment.😢
@@captain_britain He expected and demanded perfection. Crew members cried because Cameron would call them out in a cruel fashion. However, maturity has definitely humbled his social skills as observed in this video. I’m glad to see this metaphorical transformation!
@@kananiwolf256 In some ways I can understand why he might have taken it too far with his harsh behavior, as much as he had the mindset to make the film as an excuse to see and explore the Titanic, at the end of it, it was his dedication to those lives who were ruined by such an event. With a sensitive story it needed to be perfect. He probably had lots of thoughts of whether something like this could be enough to commemorate and honor those who perished. On top of that, it was a big production, something bigger than he probably was used to. And while a lot of films have a risk factor, at least the high quality ones, this movie had major risks but it did pay off enough to help Cameron to further learn about Titanic. The movie became such a phenomena that I remember going in the theaters for the Return of the King of the LOTR trilogy, and a staff member asked the crowd if any movie watcher hadn't seen a movie in years. Turns out previously they had an audience member mention that the last time they went to the theater was to watch Titanic, and they said no movies till The Return of the King was worth going to the movie theaters as no movie could compete with Titanic. I know we just experienced lock down and most movies these days are available in a streaming service, yet going to the movies was one of the biggest socializing events, especially in the 90's. So to have someone not interested in another film for nearly 5 years because 1 movie reached beyond expectation, I'd say everyone involved pulled off, dare say, perfection. Thought you might like to hear this even if you likely have heard people sing and praise the film. Everyone's hard work along with trials and errors paid off superbly.
When you got to the point of Cameron's guilt, I had reached the same conclusion. Cameron feels partially responsible, because he feels if he had spoken up more, maybe they would have listened. Thing is, other people did speak up, and the CEO didn't listen. He would not have listened to James.
I hope Mr. Cameron finds a way to be at peace with this. I agree that he could not have persuaded Stockton Rush. Rush even made a point of saying that submersibles were the safest vehicles on the planet, and this really annoyed me. Yeah, they are safe because people are EXTREMELY CAREFUL about them. They aren't naturally safe things. They are safe because of the tireless efforts of the deep sea exploration community to make them that way.
In certain sense deep sea diving is far more unforgiving than space exploration: Up there pressure delta is 1 bar at most, but in deep sea diving it's hundreds of bars.
Exactly. They're only safe due to people taking very extreme safety measures. Rush sure did like using this argument of how safe they were, yet wasn't actually implementing any of those safety measures that make subs safe.
@@tuunaes Different dangers for those industries. The pressure is lower, but weight of the vehicle matters a lot, but you cannot build it too weak, because reentry is brutal and there are small things (debris from collisions etc) flying around 10 times faster than a bullet.
Even if he did, Rush has ignored everyone else and even sued one of his former employees that warned them about the sub. Rush wasn’t gonna listen to anyone.
I don't think James Cameron has any responsibility in this. The fact is he did speak up, he didn't necessarily know what this guy specifically was doing, and other people DID warn him and he kept going anyways. The fact is that Cameron can't stop someone who is determined to be reckless.
@@SoulDelSolof course he is not responsible but as an expert, you always have that insidious thought in your mind that maybe you could've done more to prevent the lose of lives. Its a completely irrational thought, but it just happens.
Exactly. He could not have stopped this narcissist Stockton Rush. Rush would not have listened to Jesus Christ if he came down and warned him. Stockton is responsible and the people mom are a choice to go with him. Stop blaming other people for your bad decisions.
he knew it would implode cause when you hear him speak about the implosion you can tell he saw it coming from past experience with unmanned subs that used the carbon fiber titanium hull and they were not holding up so if they couldn't hold up against the ocean pressure for those it would be the same for a manned sub he knew cause he explains titanium or steel hulls for subs to last a long time and not going past the service life of the sub it's the same with all pressure vessels whether with planes or subs they fail eventually due to fatigue
I have to join the chorus here: Cameron himself has said he could see the danger signs and that he wishes he'd said more. That does not mean that he was responsible for somehow warning Rush and preventing this. Clearly, a number of engineers DID warn Rush, and Rush's reaction was defensiveness and anger. Does the record show that Rush would have listened to Cameron? No. I keep wondering what it was in Rush's life experience that gave him not only the obvious confidence and bravado but also the obvious chip on his shoulder, which produced defensiveness, anger and resentment toward anyone questioning him. Those are not signs of a confident person. Such a sad scenario all the way around.
As someone with a BA in theatre/acting and with plenty of experience onstage and on camera, I can say that your analyses should be some part of any actors well rounded training program. Your analyses are detailed, easy to follow and I learn new things every time while also remembering old things, every time. Top
Maybe he was warning the community and he wished he had reached out to Rush personally, in hopes that a personal appeal could have stopped his approach
I mean. It's like ( I'm just an icu RN , no engineer..) here,in medical world,doing something that's not "protocol," or giving a - not FDA approved med- Not many would pay $250,000 for a magic pill ,if it didn't go thru the process..no disrespect at all.. just sayin.
@@djofortunato5799it wouldn't have made a difference. Stockton received warnings dozens of times from industry leaders and said he had grown tired of hearing safety warnings. His own lead engineer expressed concerns and he fired and sued him
Cameron definitely knew implosion was a distinct possibility, and given the abruptness with which communication was lost, it was the most likely scenario.
Well just from the fact that they make tools to bust out a car window if you happened to somehow end up in a lake other body of water tells you the pressure at the titanic level is crushing.
I was pretty convinced they were alive because the news said they were banging in Morse code and all kinds of pure fantasy. Thing is, I knew better than to believe the news, but they still got me with this one. I gotta stop even listening to them. I should get all my news secondhand, and wait a month before even considering believing it 😂😂😂
@animula6908 Oh, I knew they were most likely dead when they were reported missing, and I'm not even an expert in submarines. I thought the news reporting was kinda weird because banging noices coming from the ocean could be any number of things. Unless they were getting deliberate and specific messages (that could have been published to the news) it would have been highly unlikely to be Morse code. (Not to mention that there's also a giant metal shipwreck nearby that could easily explain banging sounds.) No, I just knew submarines were dangerous, and there's always a risk going that deep. Plus, getting down there to help them, even if they were stranded, would be impossibly difficult.
Thank you Spidey, I learned so much, like how the highly visual Cameron used gestures to indicate a past and future timeline, as well as distancing himself from a topic. Watching you it’s clear you’re visual too, and from all of your gestures toward and around your temples value mental awareness and knowledge-duh, right, you identify as a “mentalist”. By the way I am so distracted by your background, mainly the line through the heart, and the crossed braces behind the shelves, and I keep trying to figure out what they might mean. Also I love your voice, I find it soothing. Thanks again for another thoughtful informative video!
We can each become blinded by our passions. Spidey ~ your astute analysis and clear explanations are astounding .. amazing and .. appreciated! Triple A commentary! Your sensitivity/ regard/ and respect for the victims of the Titan, as well as for the interviewees, is apparent and very much appreciated. May God comfort and bless their families and friends and comfort those who knew them best. Thanks, Spidey.
@@niranjanmurthy126 Hello ~ please replay the start of the video, where he introduced himself. Spidey is the creator of this channel and the presenter/ commentator who does the analysis, commentary, the video, the editing, and I'm certain much more. Spidey is his name and he introduceds himself at the start of each of his videos. Welcome.
I love this format! As a psychotherapist, the way you presented this information was so helpful I took notes and bookmarked the video. This will help me continue to grow professionally. Thank You!
That’s awesome! Glad you enjoyed it. Representational systems are pretty useful in therapy to help you adapt your messaging just a little to the specific subject 😊
Thank you, Spidey. for covering this interview. I was eager to see your opinion, which is always so detailed and interesting. For James I could only imagine it would have been hard for him to give his expert opinion to someone who was so determined to move forward his way, and who probably wouldn't have listened to him anyway. I'm sure he didn't want to sound like he was superior. Again.... thank you. 😊
And, then, James Cameron immediately calls out all the points I just touched on without saying Bob should have been more clear. Yet James also puts distance between Stockton and him. James. James also seems to be saying Stockton only cared about getting the project completed. James says that he very vocally said someone was going to die if this design was used. It’s almost like an “I told you so you irresponsible moron.”
3:12 it's at this point my instinct was to grab a pen and start taking notes. I'm nerding out over here Spidey! I think I'm most excited to understand priorities through non verbal communication. On top of that, we are so used to covering individuals who are, by circumstance, trying to be deceptive, misleading, or in damage control. The message is always convoluted with some PR expert opinion. This is so raw and honest.(assuming as I'm just getting started) so excited to see how this goes! Well worth the wait. I'm so happy you are covering this!
yeah great point! The videos where we're looking for deception might be more controversial but with these honest interviews we have much more clarity and it's a great opportunity to focus on the read. In the real world I use this whole concept of identifying priorities/values/ needs a LOT more than i use lie detection, this stuff applies to almost any interaction you can have in a day.
Really illuminating video, thanks for covering it. I realised that I’d subconsciously formed my opinions on Bob Ballard from the things you highlighted (lack of ego, referring to “we” and “right Jim?”) He came across to me as very knowledgeable yet humble and I hadn’t realised how much my opinion was influenced by his sharing of the spotlight in particular. It made me respect him even more.
@@TheBehavioralArts that’s the word I was looking for, humility! Btw, I love the fact you engage with comments here. It’s rare for someone who has so many subscribers to be so active in building a community like you are!
The thing that gets me is, when I see other vids about this, most folks are out there hating on James Cameron because he's a director, what they seem to be forgetting ( a lot ) is he was into ocean exploration waaaaay before he came into being a director, he even stated that Jacques Cousteau was his main source of inspiration for loving the ocean and exploring all it's nook and cranny's as a kid. Camreon knew exactly what he's talking about when it comes to submersibles because he's contributed a shit ton to the advancement of better fabrication methods and safety protocols for deep ocean exploration, I think folks in over vids covering this need to get their heads out of their butts and do some serious research on what exactly James Cameron has done in the name of deep ocean exploration and I guarantee you, they'd be pleasantly surprised
This was such an interesting analysis! I've never watched one of these types of videos. Very informative. Thank you for taking the time to discuss this particular interview. I'd never really listened to a James Cameron interview before and was struck by how intelligent and articulate he was when discussing his thoughts. If I hadn't known he was a director, I might have thought he was an engineer.
Great analysis. When I first heard about it on the news, I just did not have a good feeling about this one. Hindsight is 20/20, and I’m sure Cameron keeps thinking about if and how he could have been more vocal about the dangers, but he should not feel guilty about it. I don’t believe, even if he had said something, it would have prevented this. From what I’ve seen about Rush is he was a very arrogant, smooth talking narcissist who prioritized money, publicity, and ego over sound knowledge, advice, and experience. He got lucky with those first twelve voyages. He kept tempting fate unfortunately with other people’s lives. It was only a matter of time.
@@westzed23 Exactly. Rush’s engineer said that this (Titan) would be good enough to get him down there “once”. 12 more time was really pushing it. I’m surprised it lasted that long.
The insidious thing about it, was that they gained confidence with each successful dive, while the physics of cyclical stress in a composite material meant that the risk of catastrophic failure was increasing. Each dive was a round of Russian Roulette, and no one at Ocean Gate had the slightest clue how many chambers were in that cylinder. Rush liked to say that regulations were stifling innovation and that he wanted to be remembered as an innovator. A true innovator would have gone through extensive testing, of multiple unmanned prototypes, improving the design (if possible) after each test-to-failure, and developing a truly new and viable technology (or proving that this was a dead end). Instead, he did a single test dive, before taking paying passengers, and told them it was "Safer than air travel. Safer than crossing the street." (a claim that he was borrowing from an industry that he was ignoring at every turn) when the only 'evidence' to back that claim was his own confidence, arrogance, and narcissism. He will be forever remembered as a rich idiot, who cut corners at every opportunity, and committed manslaughter/suicide, when the time came to pay for those cuts.
Spidey I can’t tell you enough how much I love your longform videos. I think, especially with the knowledge that you bring to the table. It is so much more important to have longform videos. In every video that I watch usually after the 7 to 8 minute mark I get pulled into the whole behavioral knowledge system. And all your explanations about the peoples behavior, make so much more sense. Love it, keep it up.
so were the Wright brother's, Charles Lindburgh Columbus was also you know the whole end of the earth thing...Wonder how the Gemini Mercury and Apollo rockets were certified? Apollo 1 burned three men to death im sure it was certified🤔🤔
@@TheMaskedChef7 Yep it was a trip for rich people who thought they knew better. You need to respect the ocean. They'll have been gone before they even registered there was a problem. It imploded quicker than we can process in our minds.
No matter what the topic is, you always have some useful insights and this one is no exeption. As someone mentioned, it's great to learn body language from people who aren't being deceptive, and your little inputs on the details you use to profile someone are very interesting and helpful and I'm sure I'll use them with people I come in contact with without even realizing it. Thanks man!
I think another motive for wearing the branding is that these two are almost certainly feeling the immense pressure of needing to create good PR for the rest of the industry. Before the disaster, a major theme of the warnings given to OceanGate was that if OceanGate screwed up, they could easily negatively affect the entire community of deep sea exploration, because most of that community relies on the good will of the public for grants and funding. If the public, and the governments that supposedly represent them, don't see such expeditions as worth the cost, funding for learning about the deep sea could evaporate. These two are here partially as experts, but also partially as representatives of their scientific community; for the sake of themselves and their coworkers, they need to emphasize that OceanGate is an anomaly and not representative of the safe, good work done by the majority of the field.
Crew, just before launch: "Stockton, don't you think we should be checking out these increasingly loud noises, from the Hull, before you decend again?" Stockton Rushjob: "Don't be silly, there's no time! Now come on, let's get cracking!"...
I've been watching this channel for a while and I never thought I'd see you do a video about something so close to me. My dad is a sub pilot at Nautilus and WHOI. He works very closely with Bob Ballard. Everyone in the community knew what had happened right away, but couldn't speak up about it. The whole situation is very upsetting.
Cameron having designed his own sub, theorized that's what initially happened and unfortunately, it did. The fact of the matter is, Cameron, couldn't have stopped Rush because many industry experts warned Rush that he was playing Russian roulette with his safety and those of his clients.
Yea i think James will make a movie about this sometime or another. I think he’ll show the irony of how the Titanic crew with Captain Smith at the helm put all those people on a course to their deaths and ignored any warnings about the ice berg field he was approaching. Much like Stockton who knew sometime his vessel would fail and people would die, he didn’t care. Sad but true in both cases.
This is one of your best, Spidey. Jam-packed with perceptive, useful information. Your insights are fascinating and spot on. You are always appropriate and objective in sharing your own conclusions. You and this website are treasures. Thank you!
One of your best Spidey! Thanks for showing us how you use, as a mentalist, the gesturing of James Cameron, to understand what it might mean going forward.
This was incredible insight on a difficult subject. I think I struggle to understand Stockton Rush was he a man passionate about a dream that let his limitations blind him, was he grandiose or did he really believe he had surpassed the experts in their research. I know this had to be hard for James Cameron he was invited onto the Titan but declined. As a man who takes his research seriously whether land or sea for his movies this had to be hard & to know lives were lost due to negligence. As for Ballard he has so much knowledge of the Titanic & has a deep respect for it, it had to be hard to not say deep inside things they were both feeling regarding this tragedy.
A terrible, horrific situation and loss. I'm sorry for the pain and suffering of everyone. This is so interesting, the reasons behind our gestures, expressions.
Seems like an incredible honest perspective being given in the interview. Just listening to the interview without your breadth of knowledge, it feels very genuine from both speakers. Thank you for breaking it down sir.
I really enjoyed your analysis, very interesting, as usual. On a completely other note, certification should NOT be needed when one has integrity. I've seen licensed home builders who have a lack of moral compass and their houses are junk. I feel James sub, though not certified, was top notch.
Superb read on the people, the situation. The body language element was on point as always, the breakup analysis of Mr Cameron's face, top half and bottom half 👏 The NLP aspects,the way you understood the people and explained it so neatly made this an excellent video 👍 👍
I don't know whether Cameron knew or not, but it's pretty clear from the responses from people in that industry, people who might ridden on it, had planned to ride on it etc... there were known severe issues with that operation and sorta like Harvey Weinstein, nobody said anything...at least, not loudly enough. That's my take anyway.
It seems like they said a lot!! They were just ignored/fired/circumvented. The company actively avoided all certifications and legal requirements and ignored blatant warnings given by employees and field experts. They tried to sue one the the engineers who came forward. This was blatant and egregious not some accident. They all knew this would happen and the psycho CEO wouldn’t listen and couldn’t be made to.
@@bombadilloB If OceanGate were airline, by now FBI would have propably raided its offices and confiscated all computers and documents (along with those of Rush) for criminal investigation. Amount of disregard for basics of safety, all the warnings and continuous problems was such.
Everybody was warning him, and some he threatened with lawsuits over their criticisms. He said in an interview he would not hire “ old white men” as that was not “inspirational.” I think in truth it was because senior engineers called him out. He wanted to hire a young impressionable crew who would fall in line under the cult of personality and not challenge him.
17:52 would make sense since Stockton Rush was warned that he would be putting their industry at risk. By this incident occurring, and pending regulations, that could very well happen
There are so many stories about how Rush ignored all criticism. The evidence that the submersible was not safe was so overwhelming that it make some wonder if Rush wanted to die down there.
I think the killer is the fact that everyone sees and knows that this was avoidable. I still can't wrap it around my head as to why though we would take such a chance under water. Just seeing waves crashing shows me how powerful the ocean is, I wouldn't dare meet it unprepared 😩
"FALSE HOPE" , .... Interesting choice of words. I had a problem with this ,as an ICU nurse for over 20 years. I will never lose hope for any Soul; however, when I hear the doctor saying ,"oh yeah just give it a couple of more days and he should be blah blah blah. " and you know in your heart,that What made this patient A PERSON,is already in Heaven... But, not once would I ever give up hope,& not my place to say so. Much REDPECT to these two men- And my sincere condolences.
that mouth shrug means: 1 what can i say beside the obvious 2. what can we say after we warned him 3. what do you want to hear? they died fast 4. why should we care at this point when he disregarded everything 5 are we suppose to feel petty that they died 6 the guy was an asinine that disregarded safety 7. death is part of life , but they did not have to die like that
I really truly enjoyed this video! This was an incredibly sad and preventable tragedy, and I love the way you chose to cover this topic. I would love to learn more about your processes as a profiler and mentalist. More videos like this, please!😊
Great video Spidey! Re: ideosynchratic behavior, if we know a person always does this behavior, do we disregard it when analyzing that person in a particular moment? Thank you!
Yep exactly. Take adapters for example, James Cameron randomly started using adapters towards the end of the interview, I’m really interested in why that’s happening suddenly. But if we’re dealing with someone who uses adapters in all conversations, all the time, it wouldn’t be that noteworthy at all. 😊
I’m interested in knowing how anxiety, extreme or otherwise, is recognized over being dishonest when discussing a situation. For instance, I have terrible anxiety & nervous habits--how likely would it be for the general public to realize & acknowledge the distinction? What if my anxiety issues suggest I’m being completely dishonest when I’m actually being very truthful? Just interested in knowing how one would see the difference-especially where law enforcement is concerned! Also, I can’t comprehend why they don’t use behavioral analysts within law enforcement? It almost seems that behavioral analysts could determine quicker & more efficiently whether a person was being dishonest or not rather than a group of random people the court has deemed “ok” to sit as jurors.
@@skully6223 i think you may have answered your own question. People with anxiety (like myself) DO make gestures that may be misinterpreted. That's maybe why behavioral analysis cannot be used in court. Although i think it does reveal much about a person. Anxious or not. It's quite revealing.
@@skully6223 hey there. Behavioral analysis is absolutely used by law enforcement in interrogation rooms. The FBI, CIA and PDs study behavior for more effective interrogation. As for your anxiety. Remember what I said in the video, change is more important than stagnant behaviors. Baseline and idiosyncratic behaviors are very important because no two people are the same. So we’d be looking for change from your own baseline behaviors .
Recently, a "True Crime" RU-vid clip revealed that Stockton Rush descended from someone who did the exact same thing on a ship in which his ancestor cut corners, didn't certify a Canon against calls fir precaution, which ended up killing 6 men. Rush's recklessness seems to have been inherited. Cameron's sense of remorse or guilt is similar to what I and many have felt after loved ones commit suicide. We think we could have prevented the tragedies. However, once a person has made up their minds on a course of action, it is rare that an outside voice can change that pattern, as a twin brother, who thought he'd talked his brother out of taking his life learned in the most painful way. As always, thank you for your insightful analysis.
James Cameron might be a pretentious filmmaker but at the very least he still has compassion and an understanding that safety should come above all else in dangerous fields like deep ocean exploration. He also understands the influence he has on the communities he's involved in and the value of that influence. He truly did everything in his power to prevent this. He gave his professional warning, backed up by dozens of others, and they were blatantly ignored. No one can blame him for not trying further when he knew he wouldn't change the guys mind
I feel like Cameron is also using the distancing gesture so much because he doesn't want this tragedy to impact his own company/his own plans. He's emphasising the distance between OceanGate and himself because he needs people to keep trusting him.
Thanks Spidey. Excellent read on an excellent interview. Such a good interview with learned people who aren't there to focus on themselves but to give background on the anatomy of a preventae disaster
Yep. Great catch. Could very well be contempt or a goofy smirk which for some people is one sided (it’s not universal in that context but can happen). But if you were to say you think there’s contempt towards the situation in that moment, I wouldn’t disagree 😊
Thanks for doing this break down. I watched this situation unfold and saw both of these interviews... The only thing you didn't mention was what James Cameron was wearing. A Los Vegas Golden Knights sweatshirt! That was the first thing I noticed when watched the interview. Because I think James Cameron sees himself as Golden Knight himself! Wonder what you think? Thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us!👍❤ 🇨🇦🐈
Spidey, I love that you cover not only things I am dying to have you go over, but also things I would never have even thought to explore, like this. I always learn so much from you!
I ain’t an expert(other than being a submariner on a fast attack for 7 years), and for some reason Stockton failed to consult with me….but if someone had told me about a carbon fiber pressure vessel for a submersible I would’ve laughed at them. A 688 hull diameter shrinks by an inch or 2 due to compression. Carbon fiber supposedly great for high internal pressure…not the opposite.
From what I read the Titan had been down below many times with no problem. James knew that it was just a matter of time before the technology would give way to an implosion. It is sad that it happened but there was nothing he or Bob could do to prevent Stockton from going down that day. I think both of them did a good job with the interview.
i just stumbled across this. Ive been interested in body language a long time ago, but what i read seemed too generalizing. Seeing these considerations like "this guy is a visual thinker, and because hes visual his expression is like that" or "that behavior is ideosynchratic" makes a lot more sense to me.
The Australian engineer who built James Cameron's submersible said "Cameron was obsessive about every detail and would debate for hours as to whether a titanium washer was better than a stainless steel one." That is the kind of attention to detail and seriousness required for such a dangerous venture. Now ask yourself What's worse, Losing your life for $250,000 or Throwing your life away for $250,000?
I have a silly question… is a visual thinker the same as a visual learner? I wanted to google what kind of thinker I am vs my husband but all that comes up is learners!
When you talk about visual people and how they gesture to indicate past and cuter across timelines, you hit for a millisecond on left and right, and even move your own hands left for fpast and right for future to display a timeline. These are this is the direction many cultures read-left to right. Left is the past once you’ve read it and right is the future. Could this be an indicator of what culture the individual is from as not all cultures read left to right. I haven’t paid attention to timeline gestures much before, but I have paid attention to the meanings hand gestures across various cultures. Dio different cultures gesture in different directions to indicate timelines based on the direction they read?
wow interesting thought. I've interviewed many individuals from arabic backgrounds but they were all educated in french or english so wouldn't have the habit of reading right to left. I personally haven't seen anyone gesture on a timeline moving right to left, but it would be fascinating to observe a whole bunch of people who read right to left to see if there's a pattern
@@TheBehavioralArts I'm in Arab and watching this while in bed and have been for the past ten minutes gesturing time with my hands in the dark trying to see if cultural/different reading directions actually has an influence.. i can confirm that consciously thinking about it made all scenarios possible haha (though leaning more towards left as past and right as present).. i am so confused yet so determined now to know if it actually makes a difference. My native language is Arabic but I've learned English pretty early on in my life. Wonder if that counts as well. I shall get back to you fellas with my mini observational study that I'll do on my family and friends 😅
You’re profiling is the most impressive I’ve seen, you are highly intuitive, and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us! It’s fun and very satisfying using these techniques in everyday life, thanks!!
I recently discovered your RU-vid channel and honestly this is what I watch day in and day out. I'm hooked and I love you use relevant current events and videos. You out so much into your videos and it's greatly appreciated! My question is I hear you talk about baseline a lot. Is their a video on how to establish a baseline for someone?
Talking about the words Bob Ballard uses emphasizing the importance information holds for Bob and the politically correct/sensitive manner he uses to answer the question about who Stockton Rush was, what his dream was, and what needs to happen going forward : I noticed that Bob says several more things that show both his disapproval and his compassion at the same time. He confirms Stockton was a dreamer without saying Stockton had no patience and just rushed in on a basically unapproved design but Bob doesn’t elaborate on or speculate as to what that dream entailed. He also says he didn’t know Stockton that well and in so doing puts distance between the two of them by saying “I wasn’t actually consulted about the creation of this vessel.” Then, at the end of this segment, Bob also makes it clear that he has been on nine different submersibles and never questioned the integrity of the hull. Bob seems to be saying several things here. Bob did his research beforehand, Stockton was reckless, Stockton was kind of self important by not going to experts or having his submersible certified prior to a deep sea dive when just about every school kid knows that the further you go down, the higher and more crushing water pressure becomes. Then he quickly passes the conversation back to James Cameron.
One thing is that Ballard isn't an expert on submersible design, and Cameron is. Ballard's a scientist and a user of submersibles. Experts like to stay in their own wheelhouse and recognize when someone else is more expert on a subject. Cameron has proven his expertise in his self-taught field by working with other experts and earning their respect. Rush didn't. He just claimed that only he knew anything about his project and took any questions as attacks.
i think your read that he is both compassionate and disapproving is great. I don't think "dreamer" is necessarily a compliment coming from a man of science, but his tone and delivery make it seem like a good thing. He's walking that line very effectively
Really interesting video and great insight on both interviewees. You can tell both men were dancing around what they really wanted to say but couldn't, unless they wanted to sound like heartless jerks. BTW, your hair looks great, Spidey!
I think the steepling closed palm is indicative of him suggesting that we have the regulatory services around to avoid these issues. And is pleading that we have them and if we had used them this could have avoided this
Part of this speculative knowledge is that there's a leaked radio log which has been discussed by a few YT commenters. The radio logs do reflect the major factors, i.e. they did dive too fast, they did get a hull warning and a minute or so later, the ship lost power/depth and then stopped responding within seconds, with no response. The way that it was anonymously revealed, is supposedly answered that the source was crew on the boat leaked the radio logs within hours of the lost submarine, because they didn't want to come to legal conclusions, and sent the logs off to Cameron and others to make recommendations... or absolve themselves of blame, sic. However, without names or confirmations, it's hard to prove or disprove. The Logs aren't confirmed. And, it's hard to prove they are legitimate or accurate. If they are, then the crew on board had knowledge that the submersible was not 'lost', but destroyed. This was further complicated due to the conditions of the news coming to assumptions based on the surviving family members holding out hope... That we also learned how unreliable the CEO was, or the public record/advice used to reveal the character of the people 'lost'. The secondary aspect is the Media "Circus" grabbing desperately at Experts to explain how people came to the wrong conclusions about the survival and loss of the submarine. However, due to the legal exposure of 'losing contact' with the ship within 2 hours, around 9.30am, it's either false or misleading to assume events taking place, because it has not been investigated and quite possibly cannot be investigated adequately unless they can replicate the conditions to extrapolate conditions/evidence recovered, or have recordings that can establish events. And due to the depth of the event, you would need a secondary ship or submarine in the area, which took a whole week to get there, iirc. Evidence would be required to have speculation enforced/confirmed over hypotheticals.
When we pay a lot of money for something, i think that we tend to think "oh, you get what you pay for." I think because the excursion was so expensive, we all would think (and did think) it was safe. But this shows that thats not true. Which alters the trust between the consumer and the company. Just interesting. Thank you for doing this, i am sure it was difficult at times, but its great content (as always)!
Cameron suspected this was going to happen and he passed on his concerns to the people at Oceangate. He was ignored. The blame, ALL the blame, rests with Oceangate. Each and every one of it's executives should be held criminally responsible for the deaths of those people.
I agree with your observation that Bob Ballard doesn’t have a lot of ego. I felt this intuitively but didn’t have the words. He’s too competent to need ego. He’s secure in his knowledge.
SPIDEY, hi! Love your videos. You are such a kind human being. Thank you for your humble sincerity and the way you are as professional and kind as possible always (I watched your series on Casey Anthony and I couldn’t believe how you stayed as objective as you did, but I did really appreciate it). I loved this video particularly as you went into profiling the ways different people receive and communicate information! Language and communication and psychology are so interesting to me, and that insight was really helpful for me
I’ve watched the avatar movie’s several 3x the last 2 wks. Whenever I see clips from the movies I wanna see them. It’s a sickness. But they’re so beautifully done
