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@oldguysoldbikes
@oldguysoldbikes 5 месяцев назад
Not just happenstance that the tins fit exactly. It's a testament to you skills.
@squishy312
@squishy312 5 месяцев назад
One of the best craftsman I've seen on RU-vid. That was unusually satisfying.
@davidmelville5675
@davidmelville5675 5 месяцев назад
I was going to write exactly the same thing. It wasn't a fluke.
@johndavies2396
@johndavies2396 5 месяцев назад
When you are the best flukes happen 🤔🔨
@legend7ify
@legend7ify 5 месяцев назад
@@johndavies2396 ....G'day, It's new mate; Cheers, Malcolm.
@davidmelville5675
@davidmelville5675 5 месяцев назад
@@johndavies2396 The harder you work the luckier you get as they say.
@tshouse9821
@tshouse9821 5 месяцев назад
You are not only a extremely wonderful Wagon and wheel restorer, but you are a pretty good story teller too!!!! 🦅😀
@steveschainost7590
@steveschainost7590 5 месяцев назад
Well this one brought back memories. When I was a kid, in the 50's, , our kitchen range was a grown up version of a stove like this. It was fed with corn cobs and my brother and I had the job of keeping the cob basket full for Mom. We had a small shed (the cob shed) to keep the cobs dry and that Dad refilled whenever he shelled corn. I can remember my Mom opening the top on the left and dropping cobs in as needed.
@jamesfalk9820
@jamesfalk9820 5 месяцев назад
Love that little smile after the story of the bullet holes😊
@mhughes1160
@mhughes1160 5 месяцев назад
Dang sheep hearder , this is cattle country pew pew pew 🤠 . LoL 😂
@legend7ify
@legend7ify 5 месяцев назад
@@mhughes1160 I'm 82; I remember those stories
@algorithm-w7o
@algorithm-w7o 5 месяцев назад
I see you are not sheepish about weaving a tale. thanks much for the video and I hope you enjoy your day.
@railroad9000
@railroad9000 5 месяцев назад
That tale probably has more truth than we realize!
@paulcochran1721
@paulcochran1721 5 месяцев назад
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” - Better story than target shooting!
@bobdenuto8170
@bobdenuto8170 5 месяцев назад
Ensign also might be pronounced like the naval rank or ship signal flag.
@douglasschafer6372
@douglasschafer6372 5 месяцев назад
Enjoyed your made up story. Really enjoying the Sheepcamp build. Thanks a ton
@blacksquirrel4008
@blacksquirrel4008 5 месяцев назад
That must have been very, very satisfying to have that tin pop into place like that. Proof your detective work was spot on.
@danflemmer1999
@danflemmer1999 5 месяцев назад
Good story; 'specially since it seems quite plausible given the clear evidence of bullet trails. (Grin) Thanks. "D"
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 5 месяцев назад
Interesting story. Good to be the last one standing to tell the tale.
@richardthaxton8469
@richardthaxton8469 5 месяцев назад
Now I heard the story a bit differently. Old (or young) Bach had been playing cards and drinking with several of the other sheep-herders and at one point he left the group for a spell. The comely young daughter of one of his fellows was sitting alone by the campfire. Well sir, suddenly there arose a ruckus. The young woman took unkindly to Bach's uninvited advances, pulled out a six-shooter, and fired several shots into Bach's wagon from her position on the ground by the fire...
@simong9657
@simong9657 5 месяцев назад
Now us Aussies don't get the wool pulled over us often. But I rekon I see some truth in that yarn. 😂. Wonderful series as are all your videos. Thank you from down under. 👍🇦🇺
@WeeShoeyDugless
@WeeShoeyDugless 5 месяцев назад
What a fantastic tale, and told expertly also Dave. If you ever decide to hang up your tools, you have a more leisurely pastime to while the days away with your audience👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻😄😄🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧
@K.Edmondson
@K.Edmondson 5 месяцев назад
Added to all the other trades required, comes Crime Scene Investigator.
@DavidKutzler
@DavidKutzler 5 месяцев назад
CSI Joliet
@davekreidenweis3126
@davekreidenweis3126 5 месяцев назад
I have loved following you on this wagon, hearing the stories of the history of this project. Thank you so much, Dave. I could listen to your voice all day. God bless you
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 5 месяцев назад
I have a stove just exactly like yours. It's in my Blacksmith shop and I still use it. Great little stoves!! The poor man didn't sleep well that night I bet.
@TimothyPoindexter-o4z
@TimothyPoindexter-o4z 5 месяцев назад
I love the commentary and the stories and watching you make the old sheep wagon new again
@kencross25
@kencross25 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for these interesting historical nuggets.
@billkunert7281
@billkunert7281 5 месяцев назад
I first discovered your channel while you were building the Borax wagons. That got me hooked. Your attention to detail and historical accuracy is a joy to watch. You are a rare craftsman in this day of throwing things together. This sheep wagon should be good for another 150 years and the borax wagons even longer. I'm 85 and remember when there were more real crsftsmen who worked with more basic tools. Keep up the great work.
@leeboykin6066
@leeboykin6066 5 месяцев назад
I love to see you work. I started watching you because my mom told me that my grandfather use to rebuild wagons. I watch you and think about my grandfather. I never net him . But watching you make think about him doing his work. I want to thank you for this . This is as close as I can get to my grandfather. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. You make me so happy watching you work. It brings me closer to my grandfather I never met. Thank you for that . God bless you 🙏
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
You're welcome. We're glad it's meaningful to you.
@tpniefer
@tpniefer 5 месяцев назад
Dave, I wouldn't doubt that your story is true. Generally, the cattlemen saw the sheepherders as invaders who destroyed the public grazing lands, which they had to share on a first-come, first-served basis.
@stevewhyte8476
@stevewhyte8476 5 месяцев назад
It was not rustlers who shot up the sheep wagon. There was a cattle rancher from North Fork . His name was Lucas Mccain. Also known as The Rifleman. Lucas caught the owner of this wagon grazing sheep one summer day on his ranch , he fired a warning shot . The shepherd and a rather homely lot lizard were seen jumping from the interior of the wagon and heading for the tall timber . Lucas then unloaded his 44-40 Winchester into the wagon .
@geraldwise5378
@geraldwise5378 5 месяцев назад
Pardon me sir. I haven't seen any previous comments, but couldn't you put the stove in through the back of the wagon without having to dismantle it? Just my two cents thanks!
@blackbuttecruizr
@blackbuttecruizr 5 месяцев назад
Sheep herders were often the target of cattle folk, who wanted them run out.
@gerhard6105
@gerhard6105 5 месяцев назад
Herder is also the Dutch word for the person who guides and or owns the sheep.
@pat36a
@pat36a 5 месяцев назад
I have an old 1947 CC , Coke wet cooler that came from the front porch of an old general store. It must have said "shoot me" to someone, and they did. They hit it in a sweet spot , going through both sides just high enough to rip the bottom of the ice box. Patching the floor of the box so it would hold ice water, I left the hole in the sides for conversion. 16:32
@classics289
@classics289 5 месяцев назад
That might be what happened... or it could be just a bunch of manure that belongs on that spreader of yours.
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
😅
@BillOwens-vt2wi
@BillOwens-vt2wi 5 месяцев назад
Shaping up nicely and thanks for a great story. Hope your having fun. God bless.
@MikeJohnson-bu4gl
@MikeJohnson-bu4gl 5 месяцев назад
Almost could be the story of Blackey or Wic who sheepherded for my Grandfather who by the late 30's had about 5 herds (5,000) or 50 flocks (100) that were summer ranged on the west and south sides of Cloud Peak in the Big Horn Mountains. But the devil is in the details as the sheep wagons were with the doors & stove on the back end of the wagon with a step not on the tongue end like this one.....but it could almost have been a story of my family. After WWII Grandpa replaced the canvas tops with aluminum so that they provided more protection from the weather.....love these walks down memory lane!!!
@rickster4455
@rickster4455 5 месяцев назад
It's like I was there! Just kidding, good storytelling, Mr. Engles.
@davecarlson4896
@davecarlson4896 5 месяцев назад
I have the spacer and lids off of other old stoves saved them might help
@causewaykayak
@causewaykayak 5 месяцев назад
Another episode bringing colour to the past. I also love the stoves. You can always get a small fire gojng and warm yourself or do a pudding or pot roast
@davesimpsondave
@davesimpsondave 5 месяцев назад
When I was young and growing up on the farm we has a kitchen stove like yours ,but much larger, the tops we called lids and your handle was called a lifter, and so the old kids joke to what was the three main parts of a stove, was 😁 lifter leg and poker
@markglessner2886
@markglessner2886 5 месяцев назад
There were incidents of cattlemen massacring sheep and herders in the Big Horn Basin just south of you in Wyoming. There is a book written about it. The book covers the time marauders were finally prosecuted for this, and went to the State Pen in Rawlins.
@PeterWMeek
@PeterWMeek 5 месяцев назад
The way my father put that was, "The first liar doesn't stand a chance."
@garthbutton699
@garthbutton699 5 месяцев назад
My Dad also
@willwipf7030
@willwipf7030 5 месяцев назад
😂😂knowing about the Pryor mts and some of the stories ive heard you probably pretty close,
@donlum9128
@donlum9128 5 месяцев назад
Savery, Wyoming has a museum that has several sheep herder wagons. I highly recommend seeing it.
@bruceferrero8178
@bruceferrero8178 5 месяцев назад
There was no love lost between cattle men and shepherds...
@1mmickk
@1mmickk 5 месяцев назад
100% of this type of cooker rusts out at the base cant be avoided its condensation. So 100% fine to replace it with new metal IMHO. The man has the skills to do it may as well do it.
@tolydukhovny682
@tolydukhovny682 5 месяцев назад
wow! not only thee woodcraft, not only the stove and tincraft, but a genuine oeice of history! thenks for the posting.
@sergioulloa5382
@sergioulloa5382 5 месяцев назад
great story at the end......Thank you, Dave it just made this sheep wagon more valuable.
@kathyboyers4341
@kathyboyers4341 5 месяцев назад
A great craftsman and a great story teller also.Sounds like the truth to me. Could have happened just like that . Thanks for taking us along on your journey through history.
@markchodroff250
@markchodroff250 5 месяцев назад
Dave , so much work to make old parts fit and look somewhat nice , I guess it’s easier to use new wood and metal and it looks so nice , besides a new wagon can go right out camping the old buggy just needs a spot in a museum! LOL
@colonelangus4619
@colonelangus4619 4 месяца назад
This is therapy. Who else could get you to watch a man hammering a piece of tin for over 5 minutes?
@davidhamm5626
@davidhamm5626 5 месяцев назад
Right out of "Death Valley Days"....
@davidhenderson4047
@davidhenderson4047 5 месяцев назад
I'm curious , how goes the hotel? Haven't heard you mention it in a while.
@andrewjones1649
@andrewjones1649 5 месяцев назад
Dave. You make my Friday evenings. Your videos cheer me beyond measure. So what happened to old 'Batch' next? 🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@montewoods4766
@montewoods4766 5 месяцев назад
You would have been a great crime scene investigator your reconstruction of the bullet patterns shows clear logical thinking.
@noelhall945
@noelhall945 5 месяцев назад
Rustlers ? There were battles with Cattlemen and Sheep Farmers eating the grass to the base.
@davidmitchell38
@davidmitchell38 5 месяцев назад
Place stove on its side after removing the removable items. Then go in legs first and rotate for the remaining legs to go in. Then stand up and reassemble.
@JF-fx2qv
@JF-fx2qv 5 месяцев назад
Interesting story. Pretty satisfying to have that metal fall into place!
@harveypost1841
@harveypost1841 5 месяцев назад
Sumthin more plausible believable ' WILEY COYOTE ' THATS ALL FOLKS
@Ham68229
@Ham68229 5 месяцев назад
If only things such as that wagon could talk, the stories it could tell. American history was rough back in them days. Another great build series, looking forward to the next one. As always, great video. Cheers :)
@gpanizzolo6090
@gpanizzolo6090 5 месяцев назад
Excelente trabajo de recuperación y mejor la historia aún de esos orificios de bala. Es bien como tú dices: "Quien cuenta último la historia..." Gracias por compartir experiencia e historias de vida. Un fuerte abrazo! Germán, Lomas de Solymar, Uruguay.
@mostardentlyasmr4777
@mostardentlyasmr4777 5 месяцев назад
I was on the edge of my seat Dave, I could listen while you spin yarns all day. Maybe start a second channel where you just tell stories of the old west.
@rogersteinberg2555
@rogersteinberg2555 5 месяцев назад
I'm glad you cleared that up, because I was thinking that this wagon might have been at the battle of the Little Bighorn. 😅
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 5 месяцев назад
The bullets? I think that is more an American thing . Amazing work as always.
@walkertongdee
@walkertongdee 5 месяцев назад
That's not a damper, it's called the draft, the damper is near where the chimney is attached, or in the stovepipe, it dampens the heat down keeping it in the stove. I grew up cooking on these...😀
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
You're right. Thanks.
@ChrisDevismes
@ChrisDevismes 5 месяцев назад
You caught this fish with that tale. 😃
@patrickradcliffe3837
@patrickradcliffe3837 5 месяцев назад
Looks like No. 7 is a standard design for this cookstove no matter the manufacturer.
@mfreund15448
@mfreund15448 5 месяцев назад
Happy Friday Dave! I agree, no other possibility!
@ron827
@ron827 5 месяцев назад
I see a book about a sheep herder in Dave's future which would go well with this sheep wagon in a museum. "It was a dark and stormy night when I was awakened by bullets piercing my sheep wagon." - - - -
@MARKLOCKWOOD2012
@MARKLOCKWOOD2012 5 месяцев назад
my dad and i have shot various pistols calibers and rifles for fun. but that tin looks like .22’s 9mm-45 cal then you get into riffle calibers 308’s 243’s, 30 ought 6.’s theirs no telling what caliber bullet holes 🕳️ were shot through the tin. Bigger holes 🕳️ indicate 45- 308 riffles and might have sone 223’s AR riffle rounds. My limit but expensive round are bear 🐻 rounds 454’s Casul’s yea being at the range some not smart person decided he doesn’t need ear 👂 protection when the 454’s were sent let just say his ears were blown out he has hearing damage. needless to say we’ve not seen him back. if your going get into plinking for fun get hearing protection even if your teaching a grandson to shoot cans with a 22. unless you want him or family members going HUGH what ja say?.
@TechnikMeister2
@TechnikMeister2 5 месяцев назад
Drawing a long bow there, pardon the pun.
@rexmasters1541
@rexmasters1541 5 месяцев назад
Great story with the remains of the incident.
@Renville80
@Renville80 5 месяцев назад
Talking about bullet holes... on one of my photography trips to North Dakota, I found one early power plant that was retired in the mid '60s and it is literally _miles_ from anywhere. I was hard pressed to spot even ONE intact windowpane on this 3-story building!
@suzisaintjames
@suzisaintjames 5 месяцев назад
What a great story teller! Set us up for modern day vandalism and finish with rustlers! which was it? Dave's not telling. 💖🌞🌵😷
@rickbrandt9559
@rickbrandt9559 5 месяцев назад
Rhythmic hammers with a purpose...
@fredohnemus7685
@fredohnemus7685 5 месяцев назад
My home town, Quincy Il. Comstock Castle factory buildings stood till about 15 years ago, or so. It was a common site along the river bottoms. below the bluffs Quincy was built on. It was a big factory with numerous buildings. In its heyday, it was one Quincy's biggest employers.
@RichSobocinski
@RichSobocinski 4 месяца назад
I would think that name is pronounced "EN-SIN" rather than "EN-SINE"
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 5 месяцев назад
Every piece you put back in place is testimony to the accuracy of your restoration. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe. PS, I wonder if this segment was supposed to air on April 1st?🙂🙂
@danfarris135
@danfarris135 5 месяцев назад
Add bedtime story teller to your list of skills. 👍
@AnvilDragon
@AnvilDragon 5 месяцев назад
Seeing a rusted out heap of iron is never how it looked until long after. I'd vote for a refurbish. Be ok to leave it surface rust after but should be compete. On display it should have a tin cup measure, a coffee pot, a ceramic mug, a lard pot, an old skillet wrapped in brown paper.... Unmade bedding, spare wool socks hanging, tools, lantern, patent bottle of something.. Just tinking it should looked lived in when on display. Not a static wagon example, type sheep.
@Mark-ip2wy
@Mark-ip2wy 5 месяцев назад
In Australia we don't really have sheep wagons "don't quote me" but we do have highway and road signs, somehow they get holes too.
@winstonsmith9740
@winstonsmith9740 4 месяца назад
Same in nz.
@waylandforge8704
@waylandforge8704 5 месяцев назад
The western states of the US and Australian "outback" have a lot in common and one of those commonalities is bullet holes in anything that looks like it'd look better with a few bullet holes. Abandoned cars, derelict water tanks and anything that makes a decent sound on impact is a worthy target. I dare say we may even have had a few settlers homes and wagons get the same treatment back in the day. Thousands of American immigrated to Australian to seek their fortune after the gold petered out in California, including Teddy Roosevelt. I think those roughnecks must have bought their bad habits with them because a country like Australia, founded on convicts, corrupt police and military and outlaws, would never do anything so antisocial as shoot up the countryside 😇 although I may have back in the '50's when I was a boy.
@Biggestfoot10209
@Biggestfoot10209 5 месяцев назад
You need to write a Western novel. It would probably be a bestseller. I for one would buy it and enjoy reading it.
@morganchristian2946
@morganchristian2946 5 месяцев назад
A dear old friend and house mate of mine grew up in a town east of Harris Burg PA called Annville. He said ", if ifs and ands were, pots and pans, there'rd be no need for tinkers. A virtuoso performance of the kinetic and the desired result.
@scottgoodman8993
@scottgoodman8993 5 месяцев назад
This small stove is an Ensign. A large fancy stove was an Admiral. Coincidence?
@kevinreardon2558
@kevinreardon2558 5 месяцев назад
Wow. Maybe the FBi should be called in. Another great video. I wish you were on Patreon. I like putting all my donations on a single site to track.
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 5 месяцев назад
Sure sounds zackly like I heard the story told around the campfires many years ago Dave. Didn't get much sleep that night and was glad we had to leave the mountain the next morning. lol That's great that you were able to use all the tin like you did, made it fit right back like it should have been the first time too. This build will see History told over and over. Glad you are documenting the rebuild. Stay safe and keep up the good videos and stories. Fred.
@TM15R
@TM15R 5 месяцев назад
If the slats are on the outside, they are in compression, much stronger and more durable than when on the inside, under tension. Excellent engineering....as always.
@arthurirwin8235
@arthurirwin8235 5 месяцев назад
It's amazing watching the wagon come together, I've seen a few sheep wagons over the years, but I never knew what they were until seeing you build one.
@Odin029
@Odin029 5 месяцев назад
Maybe I'm the only one, but I sat here trying to figure out what calibers made the various holes in that sheet of tin.
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
Dave said he thought about that, too.
@Reziac
@Reziac 5 месяцев назад
Back when I was living in my trailer outside of Belgrade, I heated it with one of those sheepherder's stoves. Mine weren't near as fancy as either of these... just had a tin slide for the side vent and a tin box instead of a lower door... but it did have circulation all the way around the oven, so it heated and baked really nice, especially with Sheridan coal. Could about run you out of something as small as that wagon!
@SuperZmeister
@SuperZmeister 5 месяцев назад
Dave, I mean this in the kindest way and don’t take offense to it, but, watching your videos day in and day out I have come to the conclusion that you could describe how and why paint dries - and make so interesting that your viewers can’t change stations…myself included! You are a natural teacher.
@lineshaftrestorations7903
@lineshaftrestorations7903 5 месяцев назад
If that story isn't true it ought to be. 😂
@walterlang151
@walterlang151 5 месяцев назад
I might have just bought that story "hook, line, and sinker" - Another great video!
@alessandrofranchetto8271
@alessandrofranchetto8271 5 месяцев назад
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 carroca de ovelhas esta ficando ótima e as histórias são melhores ainda. 😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 5 месяцев назад
Great job on the wagon so far and loved the story. Who is to say that it is not 100% true. Some of those holes looked to be "out going" also
@mayforddavis9291
@mayforddavis9291 5 месяцев назад
And the Detective is at it again. Always fascinating to watch. Thanks for inviting me along. God Bless you and Mrs. Engels.
@dianeengel4155
@dianeengel4155 5 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@RaymondWKing-dn8wf
@RaymondWKing-dn8wf 5 месяцев назад
Hi Dave and Diane. Looks like a little sheet Metal work is in store. Looks like the Cast Iron parts are still in pretty good Shape for the most part, just Needing to be sand blasted and repainted in replicate the Original Stove.
@davidquirk8097
@davidquirk8097 5 месяцев назад
You missed out the part where "Batch's" livestock guardian dogs took down the rustlers and they were never seen again.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 5 месяцев назад
That manure spreader is infecting Dave's mind.
@cotton-Dave
@cotton-Dave 5 месяцев назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eastcoastwatch672
@eastcoastwatch672 5 месяцев назад
Great story, I was very intrigued, wished it was longer 😊
@jjohnson2553
@jjohnson2553 5 месяцев назад
I guess country boys are the same in a lot of the US. I've traveled over quite a bit of this country and bullet holes and road signs/old vehicles seem to be bullet hole magnets. LoL
@jupesterr
@jupesterr 5 месяцев назад
Hello, why don't you try to lift the stove in through the top so you don't have to dismantle the stove panels etc. Cheers, Ron, Downunder
@keithbrowning3899
@keithbrowning3899 5 месяцев назад
The finished wagon must be usable and therefore a rusty range would have been repaired or replaced from over 100 years ago. It would also be kept clean and not rusty if in constant use. Therefore it is legitimate to de-rust and repair the battered one to make it look good, or to replace with a second hand version. In reality the shepherd would have found a second hand one as he was probably not a great blacksmith.
@gregholl5011
@gregholl5011 5 месяцев назад
The rustler was Wile Coyote! He needed to eat something while chasing the Roadrunner! 😊
@MikeWilliams-yp9kl
@MikeWilliams-yp9kl 5 месяцев назад
Hi Diane and Dave, great expert in wood , history, and storytelling ❤❤
@michael-dm2bv
@michael-dm2bv 5 месяцев назад
the owner of that sheep wagon is looking to burn it down if they want that rusty hunk reinstalled, just to keep it original.😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤
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