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Did The Chosen Just Affirm the PAPACY?! 

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@oolooo
@oolooo 4 дня назад
Portraying the Bible accurately means you are going to end up making something Catholic .It is very typical .
@timboslice980
@timboslice980 5 дней назад
They handled Peter so well!
@george484-ns7ck
@george484-ns7ck 4 дня назад
"You must sumbit a written formal inquiry to speak to the rock." I love that scene
@rexfordtugwelljr
@rexfordtugwelljr 5 дней назад
I always imagined Jesus saying those words with his hand on Peter’s shoulder!
@SipswithSerra
@SipswithSerra 5 дней назад
Same here!
@IoannesVI
@IoannesVI 5 дней назад
Yes, because it is a blessing. Jesus blesses Peter. Jimmy Akin talks about this somewhere. Not about the hand on his shoulder, but about the format being a blessing.
@PatrickSteil
@PatrickSteil 5 дней назад
And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” That’s because the Scripture has Jesus saying this TO Peter. Not to all who could hear him and then tells them not to tell anyone. Wild.
@rexfordtugwelljr
@rexfordtugwelljr 5 дней назад
@@IoannesVI ! ’ve read that analysis. It’s what convinced him of the papacy. Akin mentions D.A. Carson, Baptist scripture scholar, basically saying in his commentary on Matthew that Peter is obviously the rock. It’s only anti-Catholic bias that keep people from admitting it
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 5 дней назад
@@IoannesVI Three fold three fold blessing, not just a blessing or even a three fold blessing. Not the only place it is affirmed either.
@Dominick-ub3so
@Dominick-ub3so 2 дня назад
I love being Catholic. Been Catholic for 1 year and it's the greatest experience ever.
@pauldbeer
@pauldbeer 6 часов назад
I love being a child of God through Christ Jesus. The church I belong too is not important at all!
@jamwiddle6642
@jamwiddle6642 5 дней назад
It affirms the Catholic understanding because that is exactly how it is in the Bible.
@edithhewson7208
@edithhewson7208 4 дня назад
Chosen expands Bible stories beyond the Bible
@edithhewson7208
@edithhewson7208 4 дня назад
As catholic doctrine goes beyond the Bible so does the Chosen
@jamwiddle6642
@jamwiddle6642 4 дня назад
@@edithhewson7208 The Catholic Church compiled the Bible. How can the Catholic Church go against what it created?
@AmodeusR
@AmodeusR 4 дня назад
@@jamwiddle6642 It wasn't the catholic church that compiled the bible lol
@vaderkurt7848
@vaderkurt7848 4 дня назад
​@@AmodeusR It was. First compiled at the council of rome.
@Gerry-jr1mp
@Gerry-jr1mp 5 дней назад
I'm hiding out here for a while from the rabid anti-Catholic attack mob. They haven't found this channel yet.
@user-xn8hj5cp3h
@user-xn8hj5cp3h 5 дней назад
They're here.😬
@flockinchillin37
@flockinchillin37 5 дней назад
Even if I’m not always in full agreement with some of the teachings of the church as a Catholic when I see the insane hatred from some protestants and the total disregard and distortion of what we actually believe it makes me glad I’m part of Christ’s church. Their theology is truly embarrassing.
@Funkadere
@Funkadere 5 дней назад
​@flockinchillin37 not to mention their awful, overused, and blatant use of "gotchas" built on misunderstanding the Church
@bcalvert321
@bcalvert321 4 дня назад
@@FunkadereI hate seeing the bigotry against protestants on these sites. From the saying we don't know the Bible to that stupid idea, we are not saved. Both show hate and ignorance that you haven't a clue about what Jesus taught and what the Bible actually says. Catholics would rather trust men who never knew Jesus than those who did.
@DanielWelsh-pr5xi
@DanielWelsh-pr5xi 4 дня назад
@@bcalvert321 this is what catholics are talking about 👆
@RealAugustusAutumn
@RealAugustusAutumn 5 дней назад
Another thing is the subtitles. When he addressed Peter and gave him his new name it was a capitalized Rock, but when he said and on this rock it was lowercase
@SipswithSerra
@SipswithSerra 5 дней назад
Nice catch I missed that
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 10 часов назад
It was also a one word sentence, so it could’ve been capitalized for that reason.
@themightyboat
@themightyboat 5 дней назад
To be historical and biblical honest is to affirm the papacy
@pauldbeer
@pauldbeer 5 дней назад
BOOO-HOOO! How? in what passage in the Bible did you get that from? Please inform?
@OhmandomStudios
@OhmandomStudios 5 дней назад
Catholics derive the papacy from Matthew 16:13-19. There's a peter/eliakim typology explaination used here from Isaiah 22 showing parallels to help build the argument. God bless
@byzantinebeauty
@byzantinebeauty 5 дней назад
@@OhmandomStudioswe have Suan Sonna to thank for this one 🙏🏼
@orthochristos
@orthochristos 5 дней назад
@@byzantinebeauty Indeed, Suan Sonna quoting all the modern protestant scholars' interpretations and completely ignoring all the Church Fathers of the pre and ante-Nicene period. Sorry, but not convincing at all.
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 4 дня назад
@@pauldbeer Mt. 16:19 + Is 22:20-22 + 2 Tim 2:2 = Papacy
@amberjulia123
@amberjulia123 5 дней назад
Growing up Protestant (but in RCIA and becoming Catholic next Easter), I heard many sermons on this part of the Bible. I can see why there wasn’t an uproar of backlash about these scenes, because it’s how most Protestants imagine it also when reading the Bible. They acknowledge that Peter was indeed chosen as a leader by Jesus to establish the initial *foundation* for his church. That this would be Peter’s task during his lifetime - to lay a solid foundation with which others could stand and to lead Jesus’ disciples (only the ones that Jesus knew - not future generations) after Jesus died. Therefore Protestants also believe that once Peter eventually died, this task was complete…and since Jesus didn’t explicitly mention that a successor would be needed…and since the New Testament doesn’t talk about appointing a successor after Peter…then that’s the end. That is the typical Protestant belief and I don’t think the show deviated from that or went against that in any way.
@IoannesVI
@IoannesVI 5 дней назад
Acts 1: 25 If Judas Iscariot had someone take his seat then Peter definitely had someone take his seat too.
@tony1685
@tony1685 5 дней назад
Matthew was about Peter's Confession -- Jesus as Messiah , not at all about Peter.
@dherpin4874
@dherpin4874 5 дней назад
@@tony1685 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
@tony1685
@tony1685 5 дней назад
@@dherpin4874 correct -- now back up to verse :13 -- the Topic is Christ, and the 'rock' His church is build upon is the Fact that Jesus is Messiah and the Son of the Living God. there are multiple verses, proofs making this clear. see 1 Peter 5:1 -- Peter is -the leader- a fellow elder -- nothing more. see Matt 18:1 -- didn't they get the memo? this is only 2 of many, many proofs -- showing this just isn't so, Sir.
@samuelh8441
@samuelh8441 5 дней назад
@@tony1685 thank you! This major point is missed so often in the context. God did not build the foundation of His church on a man ( Peter) but on the truth of who Jesus really is. That's the context.
@edyflak
@edyflak 5 дней назад
I wonder about the actual demographic of those who watch the show. I noticed some protestants refusing to watch because they believe the show to be “graven images”.
@justgreatmagic
@justgreatmagic 5 дней назад
...really, lol.
@HellenicCatholic
@HellenicCatholic 5 дней назад
That’s insane if true.
@manny75586
@manny75586 5 дней назад
I've seen that objection on IG. I responded to the guy "what are the photos in your profile if not graven images of anything on Earth or Heaven?" The meltdown was real. The low church definition of idolatry is utter nonsense.
@totallynotthebio-lizard7631
@totallynotthebio-lizard7631 5 дней назад
I didn’t watch it because I thought it was like the movie where he acts more like a sorcerer than a man who commands the universe
@justgreatmagic
@justgreatmagic 5 дней назад
@@totallynotthebio-lizard7631 you should watch it for yourself, that also absurd in my mind.
@marinaaustin5375
@marinaaustin5375 5 дней назад
Additinally, I love how the Chosen captures the authentic love of Jesus and Mary in the simple, tender, ordinary moments.
@swanson_8804
@swanson_8804 5 дней назад
I’m Protestant but I love the Argentina jersey! As an Argentine, +1000 aura.
@LaserFace23
@LaserFace23 5 дней назад
I don't really watch The Chosen much, but this scene and the little "dialogue additions" they added actually enhance the scene quite well -- the "dead gods" have nothing to offer their followers, but the "Living God" is able to produce a Son, and those who follow Him and His Church also become His children. Jonathan Roumie's performance after that line was also great, he sells that feeling of indescribable joy Jesus must've been feeling when he realized his top student was one step closer to becoming His brother. The Catholic Church is such a gift, it's The Way to obtaining theosis, and we should always pray, fast, and sacrifice for those who don't have unity with Peter's successors.
@ignatiusjackson235
@ignatiusjackson235 5 дней назад
Viganò should watch this, lol
@SipswithSerra
@SipswithSerra 5 дней назад
LOL YES
@pmlm1571
@pmlm1571 5 дней назад
Why should Vigano watch something in which he already believes, that is, that Kepha is the earthly head of the church? Aren't you clear that Vigano believes the See is vacant, that the current occupant is, unfortunately, not Kepha's successor?
@pmlm1571
@pmlm1571 5 дней назад
@@SipswithSerra I don't know why +Vigano "should" watch an episode relating what +Vigano already believes, that Kepha is the earthly head of the Church. +Vigano believes in the office of the papacy, what he doesn't accept is that the current occupier of that office is legit. +V believes the See is vacant.
@ignatiusjackson235
@ignatiusjackson235 5 дней назад
@@pmlm1571 Don't you have a Taylor Marshall to put in your mouth?
@lilwaynesworld0
@lilwaynesworld0 5 дней назад
@@pmlm1571so he believes the gates of hell has prevailed against the church
@IoannesVI
@IoannesVI 5 дней назад
Luke 22 24 A dispute also arose among them, as to which of them was to be regarded as the greatest. 31 “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, 32 but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.” Imagine you're an apostle sitting at the last supper and Jesus says this to Peter in front of everyone when you literally just discussed who is the greatest amongst each other. How would you feel?
@jd3jefferson556
@jd3jefferson556 5 дней назад
The most beloved Apostle was John, however Peter is still the leader of the Apostles
@eddardgreybeard
@eddardgreybeard 5 дней назад
@@jd3jefferson556 John couldn't be John if he was the leader of the Apostles.
@jd3jefferson556
@jd3jefferson556 5 дней назад
@@eddardgreybeard exactly. God has such a wonderful plan for each of us.
@clips7701
@clips7701 5 дней назад
I saw a video of Dallas, the director, consulting with many theologians before writing the scripts. Many of those theologians where catholic, even Bishop Barron was there once!
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 часов назад
.I hope he comes back to the round table. He spoke more in a respectful way that the other kind priest. I kept waiting for him to say "Catholics believe this" but he just stayed quiet. I am grateful although I didn't like how Mary speaks of the birth of Jesus later and other things, I am grateful he left "other children" very ambiguous.
@Primordial_Synapse
@Primordial_Synapse 5 дней назад
Peter has been depicted throughout this series as the "alpha" of the group (apart from Christ, of course) and everyone tends to look to him for leadership and guidance, particularly after this scene. Personally, I want to see how they handle the incident with Ananias and Sapphira, assuming they go that far.
@InitialPC
@InitialPC 5 дней назад
they wont cover acts
@CatholicaVeritas777
@CatholicaVeritas777 4 дня назад
@@InitialPClet’s hope they do
@partydean17
@partydean17 4 дня назад
@@InitialPC that is very disappointing to hear.
@michaelrome3527
@michaelrome3527 5 дней назад
In Jesus’s Aramaic it’s much more implicit. He calls Peter ‘Kephas’, and on this Kephas I will build my church. There’s no other words for rock and the fabled ‘pebble’ like there is in Greek.
@eddardgreybeard
@eddardgreybeard 5 дней назад
Even then, it's distinguishing between the masculine nomative and an actual rock.
@loganholly8401
@loganholly8401 5 дней назад
@@eddardgreybeardYeah because Peter is a male, the Gospel writers didn't want to use petras (feminine) to describe Peter, because he is a male, so they used petros. Not because he is the "little rock" but because petros is masculine.
@Malygosblues
@Malygosblues 5 дней назад
Anyone can volunteer an answer to this. What is the Protestant explanation of why the Lord names Simon as Peter?
@alessandroarsuffi3062
@alessandroarsuffi3062 5 дней назад
I have heard a few explanations, the most frequent being that the "rock" is that specific act of faith of Peter or​ maybe that Jesus was pointing at himself as the rock. Honestly, all of them are quite weak arguments. In this passage, Jesus says that Simon Peter is BLESSED because the power revealed it to him in person, and no one else. That shows two things: the first being that Peter was somehow enlightened by the Father through the Holy Spirit, which means that the infallibility of Peter and its continuation in the Apostolic See comes entirely from a special act of God: and the second being that this gift is independent of Peter's worthiness. This is the mystery of God choosing whoever he wants for his mysterious purposes: we just have to submit humbly to his will, whatever it is, because God gets the greatest good even from the most terrifying evil.
@FisherOfMenParakletos
@FisherOfMenParakletos 5 дней назад
Yeah although people could argue He was speaking Greek at the time, but the point is Peter’s real name in aramaic is “Cephas” thats what Jesus changed it to in John 1 so the verse is “you are petros (really cephas) and on this cephas i will build my church”
@jamesmonahan9408
@jamesmonahan9408 5 дней назад
To affirm the papacy, look to the readings on Eliakim & Shebna in Isaiah 22 starting in verse 15, not just Peter.
@justgreatmagic
@justgreatmagic 5 дней назад
I don't see it, explain more.
@jamesmonahan9408
@jamesmonahan9408 5 дней назад
@@justgreatmagic read it and do a deep study on it.
@justgreatmagic
@justgreatmagic 5 дней назад
@@jamesmonahan9408 I’ve read it. All of 22.
@jamesmonahan9408
@jamesmonahan9408 5 дней назад
@@justgreatmagic Research it and study it. After reading do a DEEP STUDY on it.
@roarkkaufman9339
@roarkkaufman9339 5 дней назад
..brother you have to explain the connection. Isaiah 22 shows us the institution of a prime minister under a king, in similar fashion to that of the pope under Christ. Which is what Matt 16 harkens back to with binding and loosing and the connection with doors opening and closing. The best explanationof this ive found online comes from Suan Sonna on youtube. @jamesmonahan9408
@hailgard
@hailgard 4 дня назад
I'm crying with Joy, Christ is king!!
@mcnzefili
@mcnzefili 18 часов назад
That second scene was funny. It made me laugh a lot. As for how it was depicted, "Simon becoming Peter" the truth is the truth as recorded in scriptures, our feelings about that are immaterial.
@stevenkent1979
@stevenkent1979 День назад
I also think the papacy is affirmed biblically when Jesus asks Peter 3 times if he loves him. And tells him to take care of and feed his sheep. The church.
@CrestviewCutters
@CrestviewCutters 4 часа назад
If it isn’t Catholic, it isn’t fully Christian
@lewisguapo
@lewisguapo 3 дня назад
This is the equivalent of our English teacher describing "blue" meant something profound when in fact the author just wanted to say "blue" on the text... 🤣
@slenderboy5424
@slenderboy5424 5 дней назад
They literally affirmed the Catholic (aka the original) interpretation of the Papacy (so the role of Peter), I’m PROUD and HAPPY that the show shows literally how it HAS TO BE INTERPRETED. Glory to God, yall this (and other parts in the Chosen) shows the TRUTH of the Catholic Church. “And the gates of hell shall now prevent on it” (Jesus said that, not me. Got it antixclericals and protestants?)
@arnodorian5095
@arnodorian5095 4 дня назад
Also when he asks Peter if he loves him, 2-3 times, to which Peter is instructed to guide the flock! Is that coming up in a later episode? 😊
@user-fc9iq6le2g
@user-fc9iq6le2g 4 дня назад
Peter is the leader, it is very clear in the Bible. Paul went to Peter about the circumcision issue and it was Peter who had the vision to settle the matter. Peter has the keys to the kingdom and the early church has written that Peter knew he was to be replaced when he dies. I don't understand how people can say the Catholic Church made it up when the early church fathers confirmed this papacy centuries before the establishment of the Roman Catholic Church. How can people literally deny it when the evidence is right there? To me, that is satan having his hold on the person. Those people seriously need Jesus
@alternativefactory7190
@alternativefactory7190 5 дней назад
Well, if they followed the gospel readings, then yes!
@Jacks-tj9mb
@Jacks-tj9mb 4 дня назад
I take it as Jesus was personally addressing Simon-Peter when he gave him the title of the rock. It was given person to person. It never has came off to me as something that was supposed to be passed down. On Simon-Peter he did build his church and clearly it was built on a rock because it has lasted for this long, with so many people not supporting the pope.
@michaelnathan3836
@michaelnathan3836 4 дня назад
It is what I have been waiting for. I am joyful about it I also love the Chosen. 🎉
@CatholicaVeritas777
@CatholicaVeritas777 5 дней назад
I LOVE THE CHOSEN
@thomasthellamas9886
@thomasthellamas9886 4 дня назад
The Chosen doesn’t seem to understand the foundation of The Holy See, much less love Saint Peter. smh
@traymac11
@traymac11 4 дня назад
In a later episode in this season, Jesus clarified with the disciples that what he meant is that all of them are leaders who will build his church. So therefore, I don’t believe they were trying to confirm the papacy.
@auntyfluffy
@auntyfluffy 4 дня назад
Liked, subscribed, will be sharing with my pals. Coming Home is really something in this tech age........I was away for 35 years , and now, my goodness. what resources, I'm just sorry it took me this long to find this channel. 😇😇😇
@basde3490
@basde3490 4 дня назад
The actor who plays Jesus is , Maronite Catholic actually;)
@catherinemann3378
@catherinemann3378 4 дня назад
Thinking on Jesus of Nazareth tv miniseries from 1977, it re-aired in the 1980s. Growing up as Protestant...never thought of Peter as an unimportant disciple when seeing that movie. Feel the resistance in history is to corrupt men in the Chair of Peter. If you use that to deny miracles & visions of godly Roman Catholics, you need to live in mystery more..and not say you know the good ones' hearts...when you do not. As Catholic I have more rest to who God is and His plans and Life ...future Presence with Creation. God supports what He wants and hides from others- those that don't love Him where He calls. I believe God is over all regions and souls with other degrees of illumination ...and not judge them as finished, fixed to who they are -cause you are called to be a servant to the Holy Spirit.
@ESteen0815
@ESteen0815 5 дней назад
I suppose there wouldn’t be too much controversy because even anglicans can affirm that he was the first among equals, just not papal infallibility.
@manny75586
@manny75586 5 дней назад
I always felt they did a good job of staying in the Mere Christianity lane. Which does mean you won't make a ton of people excited, but also not disappoint. But I don't think they are pro-Catholic, though they flirt with it. During the Nativity they showed BVM having some discomfort during birth, which is against Catholic tradition. Though they did in ep 1 of this season focus rather heavily on the Annunciation. An event many Protestants treat as an afterthought.
@revelation1215
@revelation1215 4 дня назад
The Annunciation is lost in translation for most.
@spencermuffler
@spencermuffler 2 дня назад
I didn’t like how giving the keys of the kingdom was not more directly given to Peter in the show during that scene
@persiamokri5536
@persiamokri5536 4 дня назад
I agree with you! I believe that our Lord Jesus Christ chose Saint Peter as our first Pope of our Catholic Church Amen⭐️❤️‍🔥🕊✝️🙏
@jamesbyrnes9670
@jamesbyrnes9670 3 дня назад
I love this program and have seen every episode. It is as true to scripture as anything I’ve ever seen. I don’t see any ambiguities in the words of Jesus.
@oliviapos3397
@oliviapos3397 4 дня назад
Yeah definitely confirming Catholic beliefs 🙏🏻❤️
@firewall8095
@firewall8095 7 часов назад
Love the jersey. VAMOS 🙌
@jetc4332
@jetc4332 5 дней назад
Many people don't know that Jesus actually gives the name Peter to Simon in their first encounter (John 1:42). So, the rock upon which Christ builds his Church is not only Peter's confession, but the person of Peter himself.
@kaneo1
@kaneo1 4 дня назад
My personal take on The Eucharist is: when Jesus said, "Will you leave me too?" Peter's attitude wasn't an adoring, "where else would I go but You!", but more a disturbed, offended, "there isn't anywhere else we CAN go. We're not comfortable with this teaching either, but You are the only source of Truth. We'll stay and hope it makes sense later."
@rickfilmmaker3934
@rickfilmmaker3934 4 дня назад
Peter was a Catholic scene. But I can't watch the Chosen anymore because they completely skipped John 6 "unless you eat the body of the Son of Man and drink his blood you have no life in you." They sissied their way past it.
@Benjamin-David
@Benjamin-David 4 дня назад
I’m Eastern Orthodox and left neutral. 1st among equals.
@deaconsantiagomolina91
@deaconsantiagomolina91 5 дней назад
Another RU-vidr pointed out that the Chosen has not given us the "Bread of Life" discourse and the Transfiguration. They may bring them in as "flashbacks" or something like that.
@michaelhaynes6172
@michaelhaynes6172 5 дней назад
Dallas Jenkins said that he wasn't going to include the transformation on the mount because he technically didn't know how to do it effectively on the screen.
@cyril_s
@cyril_s 4 дня назад
Both are directly related to Eucharist.
@george484-ns7ck
@george484-ns7ck 4 дня назад
Hopefully he does do the bread of life discourse in a flashback especially during the last supper secne in season 5 it will be perfect
@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 4 дня назад
@@michaelhaynes6172When was that? Because around August 2023, he had posted- People keep saying the transfiguration would be an important scene, and I'm confused as to why...what purpose would it serve our story?
@partydean17
@partydean17 4 дня назад
The real interesting part will be post Resurrection if in Acts Peter will be shown as a first among bishops. Hopefully they do but i also understand they have to be careful and neutral
@exerciserelax8719
@exerciserelax8719 4 дня назад
Even Protestant scholars generally agree Peter had some kind of leadership role in the early Church, based on the evidence in Acts etc. They try to claim it was a lesser authority than the Pope.
@revelation1215
@revelation1215 4 дня назад
Somehow they miss the importance of Christian unity in the process.
@revelation1215
@revelation1215 4 дня назад
Well I find it encouraging that they said you are Peter, rock and not Peter, pebble. 😂
@ellisfrancisfarros3935
@ellisfrancisfarros3935 4 дня назад
I don't watch Chosen anymore due to how they handled with the LGBT flag on cast. But I'm glad to see the show isn't affected by it.
@TedsTakesWrestling
@TedsTakesWrestling 5 дней назад
Great breakdown
@GiaBlinks
@GiaBlinks 5 дней назад
The Chosen has done a decent job at neither confirming nor denying Catholic/Protestant. I respect them for that because I watch various RU-vid channels that flesh out biblical history as it pertains to the show, and there was so much turmoil around Peter. One creator would literally laugh at the Catholic perspective while doing some serious mental gymnastics when trying to explain the protestant perspective. And, the comment section was full of liberated posters who were quite insulting over this topic. So, I do appreciate that The Chosen does it's best to depict what is biblically accurate without imposing any particular point of view. I look forward to the roundtables that are coming out soon. I like hearing all perspectives and deciding for myself.
@McDFilms13
@McDFilms13 5 дней назад
I remember in the original trailer for the season seeing a clip from this scene and it gave me the impression it was trying to say this rock was the the living faith so interesting that the final cut appeared more affirming this way.
@miss__k
@miss__k 5 дней назад
They did good but the keys of heaven and rest of the dialouges they made it was for everyone. I was so mad for that. It's so obvious one knows the bible truly will know, Peter is the Rock. My dear protestants who don't believe in Papacy. Just forget what your denominations preach you for a minute. Just have the Holy Bible in your mind and answer to these questions: Psalm 23 says, The Lord is ____ (shepherd) John 10 says, I am the ___ (good shepherd); I lay down my life for the ___ (sheep) In Mathew 16, Jesus gave Simon a new name, he called him Kephas which literally means Rock in Aramaic. Rock here doesn't mean a physical element but a firm foundation. (Explained in Mathew 7:25) He gave Peter the keys of kingdom of heaven and said, "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”(indications in Isaiah 22). (2) Who's the shepherd - Lord is; Now who is a Shepherd?- a person whose job is to look after sheep. Now moving on to John 21, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Feed my lambs", “Take care of my sheep" "Feed my sheep". Jesus rests the responsibility of being a Shepherd on the earth To Peter(since Jesus ascended To heaven). Thus Peter becomes the successor, a person or thing that comes after somebody/something else and takes his/her/its place. And then when Peter died of Crucifixion his responsibility goes to another one, and then to another. Thus the succession of being the shepherd happend for 2000 years. And Pope is a Latin word for Papa, Father. Fathers usually leads the family. On earth pope is being the leader of the catholic church. He leads us to Lord Jesus. And do not twist my words, God Is one and he's in three forms. Saint Peter was a mere human, who glorified God by his martyrdom. But he was elevated by the Christ and the father. So he's a saint. Deep down in ur heart you know this is the truth. But false interpretations of your churches will make it difficult for the brain to accept this simple thing.
@george484-ns7ck
@george484-ns7ck 4 дня назад
Yes that was my reaction at first why did they make it look like everyone got the keys I got so annoyed but later there was a scene which says Peter has the keys and no one else does. So they kind of saved it.
@doodleart7692
@doodleart7692 4 дня назад
​@@george484-ns7ck I hope they give importance to him. I was not impressed by 4th epidode too. I loved it, but they made Thad, James and mary Magdalene understood Jesus's prognosis and they have been listening while peter arguing over pomegranates. I love how they are giving importance to everyone but st.Peter was the one who acknowledged it first took him aside and said this should not happen and God inreturn gave him an earful😂 but they showed like he didn't care at all. St.peter has always been viewed as a protective hot headed person but here they split his role of being protective to simon z and hothead role to son of thunder. They are doing a great job but some areas are still not acceptable to me. They have a good actor, hope they use him well.
@george484-ns7ck
@george484-ns7ck 4 дня назад
@@doodleart7692 yeah I know and the bible said none of the disciples understood and they were scared to ask him about his death and resurection
@dumbnumb162
@dumbnumb162 3 дня назад
the feed my lambs and take care of my sheep is just the reinstatement of Peter. Peter denied Christ three times, so he told Peter those things 3 times. He asked Peter "Do you love me more than these" because Peter was the only one to say that he wouldn't fall away, though the other "disciples" would. I am leading more towards Eastern Orthodoxy. Peter answered him, “Though they all fall away because of you, I will never fall away.
@miss__k
@miss__k 3 дня назад
​@@dumbnumb162 You will say anything but won't accept the truth. Everyone left Jesus except for John, Thomas even doubted him. Peter said he would die for him, the others said that too. But they were saved. Though he denied Jesus, he didn't realize that until the second crow. If you read carefully you yourself can see that. Why Jesus didn't ask anyone else other than Peter to take care of his lamb? You can deny, protest like every protestant do. But you can't ignore the truth for a long time. He was the leader of apostles, even a child can understand that from reading the Bible. Peter was the pope and the other apostles were thr Cardinals present now.
@ThatCorey4424
@ThatCorey4424 4 дня назад
Not only did Christ start the Catholic Church, but the guy playing Jesus is a devout Catholic, so I’m sure there’s a strong Papal leaning somewhere in there
@Loko-nb8if
@Loko-nb8if 4 дня назад
It also affirms the way the Mormons view St Peter
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 5 дней назад
I heard that in the episode when Jesus says to Peter he will build His church on him that they had Jesus step back and say it like he was talking to all the apostles and not just Peter which would be biblically wrong and very Anti-Catholic?
@annb9029
@annb9029 5 дней назад
I think they played both sides
@CatholicaVeritas777
@CatholicaVeritas777 5 дней назад
They’re doing it objectively to not offend anyone. Remember, the director is protestant
@PatrickSteil
@PatrickSteil 5 дней назад
Yes they did. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
@borquelepork1057
@borquelepork1057 5 дней назад
How they did the part about the key made it look like he gave it to all the apostle.
@t.d6379
@t.d6379 5 дней назад
It's unacceptable for Catholics.
@FromAcrossTheDesert
@FromAcrossTheDesert 3 дня назад
They present it as a point of inquiry -as a question. This is most likely a projection of our modern separation rather than the actual events. It is clear from scripture that the one speaking out (someone times for good , and other times in error) most of the time. Peter seems like Jesus' best friend, and although the apostles do squabble about who is first at some time during the Gospels, it is clear that Peter is a leader.
@christusenciaga
@christusenciaga 5 дней назад
Idk if they’ve done John 6, but I can’t wait to see how they handle that
@ghostapostle7225
@ghostapostle7225 5 дней назад
They've done (miracle of the multiplication) and nothing of John 6 was mentioned.
@iame7483
@iame7483 2 дня назад
I could be completely misremembering, but isn't there a point later in the season where they bring this up again and Jesus species that they are all the foundation of the church? Maybe that was just a RU-vidr's interpretation, but I thought I remembered hearing that in one of the episodes themselves.
@drago2593
@drago2593 4 дня назад
This channel will become famous one day,and I can say that I was subscriber when this channel was around 2k.
@SipswithSerra
@SipswithSerra 4 дня назад
Thanks for being an OG! If God wills it, we will reach 1M in no time 😎
@drago2593
@drago2593 4 дня назад
@@SipswithSerraoh I am absolutely certain, there is no doubt in mind about that 😃 God bless you 🙏
@tony1685
@tony1685 4 дня назад
only because of Amos 8:11
@thetruth3653
@thetruth3653 4 дня назад
I believe he is just affirming Christianity not the Papacy. All believers.
@Nidhogg13
@Nidhogg13 5 дней назад
I had the same thought. They went out of the way to point out that Jesus named him "rock" and "upon this rock I will build my church." Jesus explicitly gives Peter authority over His other followers in this scene.
@pauldbeer
@pauldbeer 5 дней назад
Peter has not been given any authority here, he was only given another name, so people could remember what he actually said! Instead of concentrating on Simon-Peter, maybe it would help if one actually read the whole passage from start to finish to even try and discern what this whole passage was about, don't you think?
@rammawia1149
@rammawia1149 5 дней назад
​@@pauldbeer if hes not referring to peter then did Jesus build a church there in the place where he said that ??
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 4 дня назад
@@pauldbeer v18 can be argued, but the meaning of v 19 cannot. Jesus is an eternal king and He established Peter and the first occupant of the perpetual office of steward.
@francesornopia4834
@francesornopia4834 4 дня назад
@@pauldbeer Jesus does not just change name just so we can remember it? You don't think our God like that right? Its always for a very very important reason, and if so then didn't you believe that scripture alone is the only one that He left on earth, then why the need for changing name of one of his disciples just for us to remember a teaching from Him about His church you dont even believe visible, where in fact Jesus establishes there a visible church that the gates of hell wont prevail, you dont even believe that do you? Cause if you do then you must believe in the Church to remains standing for thousand year, surely God can do that something evil cant.
@doodleart7692
@doodleart7692 4 дня назад
​@@pauldbeer so you're just going to ignore the other verses and John 21??? You ignorant people!!!
@jonyivre4541
@jonyivre4541 16 часов назад
The papacy must have started somewhere.
@dherpin4874
@dherpin4874 8 часов назад
Jesus-> Saint Peter-> Saint Linus -> Saint Anacletus ->,…………..Pope Francis
@kaykrause4469
@kaykrause4469 4 дня назад
Yes, I do and since it’s the truth, that’s the way it should be portrayed.
@WilliamBrothers
@WilliamBrothers 4 дня назад
I love the channel name. St. Serra is one of my favorites since I live in California. I've noticed the show works to "appease" most of the major denominations but this one is hard that it's not the start of the Church. I might be wrong, but some protestants might see it as something else since they refer to the first few centuries as the "early church." It's unmistakable seeing this as a Catholic that this is the start of Christ's Church. I do have some thoughts on other scenes. The depiction of Mary has her mostly on the sidelines, but I think she'll play a much bigger role during the crucifixion. There was a recent scene this season 4 where Joseph is briefly brought up, but she basically said she doesn't think about the dead only the living. I'm not sure if she would have said something like that, but it might have changed after Christ's resurrection. I'll have to wait and see how her character evolves in the show.
@darrellperez1029
@darrellperez1029 4 дня назад
Proof of the papacy. Apostolic succession.
@michaelgartman4320
@michaelgartman4320 4 дня назад
they did a good job of making it vague
@annb9029
@annb9029 5 дней назад
Some were mad on the RU-vid for that episode but not as bad as I thought
@samgodzwa7927
@samgodzwa7927 4 дня назад
I definitely don’t think it undoubtably affirmed the papacy. It affirmed that Peter had a unique position of leadership among the disciples and that he would be an integral part of the foundation of Christ’s Church, but not necessarily that there would be a continuation of the position that Peter had. I think Protestants would agree with Peter’s leadership position within the Church, they would just argue that it doesn’t imply the necessity of a papacy.
@chilenobarrucia
@chilenobarrucia 4 дня назад
I think they didn't try to affirm the papacy. They tried to stage the scripture scene and it became obvious that scripture affirms the papacy. However they tried to alter the scene enough to leave a doubt about it.
@lichwood4429
@lichwood4429 5 дней назад
The Chosen ended up not including the immediate following sentences in the same conversation were Jesus also calls Peter Satan. I think the show disciples would've been a lot less jealous if that part wasn't omitted.
@reeferfranklin
@reeferfranklin 4 дня назад
My thoughts are that most Christians affirm Peter was first among the apostles, Papal Supremacy & Peter being first among the Apostles aren't identical concepts at all, the Eastern Church would contend that Peter was First among the Apostles, which functioned as First Among Equals, some will point to James the Brother of Jesus seeming to have primacy over Peter in theological disagreements, others will point out that Peter was Bishop of Rome & Antioch, meaning both branches in schism have claim to the Bishopric of Saint Simon Peter, others would say that the testimony Peter gave was the Rock Jesus built his church upon, some would claim the literal rock they were standing on which was known for idols & had a place literally known as the Gates of Hell there was the rock, some say Peter was the pebble and the rock was a boulder/foundation stone...I think The Chosen intentionally left it open to every single one of those interpretations, and I personally believe we're all right about it in some weird way...of course I tend to think most serious traditional branches, especially with Apostolic Succession are right about this whole Christianity thing & wrong about it in their own special ways.
@daviddabrowski01
@daviddabrowski01 4 дня назад
Sidebar, Messi gonna repeat? Who’s winning the euro?
@havefaithlikeachildk3300
@havefaithlikeachildk3300 3 дня назад
It’s kinda sad that they wanted an authentic Jesus but they didn’t get right his Mom very well. It clearly showed even in the the Nativity scene. And the grace that God gave in the Seven Sacraments. I guess this show is just a starter to a person. I hope individuals who watch this will truly seek God’s family and God himself.
@chrisblanc663
@chrisblanc663 4 дня назад
I like the shirt. I think the show skirted the Catholic question.
@user-sk1qp9cf4s
@user-sk1qp9cf4s 4 дня назад
No denial all from Catholic understanding of the Bible... nothing else...
@claybody
@claybody 4 дня назад
Peter is first among equals.
@carterstanton3540
@carterstanton3540 5 дней назад
The cringe of seeing someone write in a notebook during that time period…
@SarahB012
@SarahB012 5 дней назад
And speak with weird accents in English. It’s hard for me to watch because it feels Disney to me.
@mfranchize8287
@mfranchize8287 5 дней назад
@@SarahB012Disney has never done anything like this
@twilightcyber4543
@twilightcyber4543 4 дня назад
​@@SarahB012their accents would actually be fairly accurate for their culture and time period
@SarahB012
@SarahB012 3 дня назад
@@twilightcyber4543 in English? No. It’s hard to watch for me.
@SarahB012
@SarahB012 3 дня назад
@@mfranchize8287 I’m talking about cinematography, accents, script, and just all around cheese.
@simplydanny
@simplydanny 4 дня назад
Technically Jesus established like many rabbis of his day, a Beit dim, it’s the closes and more knowledgeable disciples of the rabbi. Jesus had other followers like the 70 or 72. Even today rabbis do this, and the order determines hierarchy and successor to the mission of the rabbi when he’s gone. This is why Peter is always mentioned first because the order determines who will carry the mantle when the rabbi is gone. There is no dispute that Peter is the successor, we see that played out in Acts.
@deaconsantiagomolina91
@deaconsantiagomolina91 5 дней назад
Love the Argentina shirt!!!!!! Vamos Argentina!!!!
@SipswithSerra
@SipswithSerra 5 дней назад
I was waiting for someone to notice! Don't miss the game today!
@deaconsantiagomolina91
@deaconsantiagomolina91 5 дней назад
@@SipswithSerra No way!
@deaconsantiagomolina91
@deaconsantiagomolina91 4 дня назад
@@SipswithSerra Ganamos!!!!!!
@SipswithSerra
@SipswithSerra 4 дня назад
@@deaconsantiagomolina91 what a game! They had me concerned in the second half
@sirephraimgrayson202
@sirephraimgrayson202 4 дня назад
they did say the kingdom of heaven is shared between the disciples, not like catholic papacy which is to peter and then to other disciples in communion with him
@george484-ns7ck
@george484-ns7ck 5 дней назад
I hope they do the eucharist and the last supper correctly. They said they were going to make the last supper, like passover because it is. There going to do the Jewishness of passover which does give me hope for them. Because as Scott Hahn and many others affirm a correct understanding of passover leads to a correct understanding of the eucharist especially with the 4th cup and stuff. And the fact that they eat the lamb after it's been sacrificed.
@JayAruga
@JayAruga 4 дня назад
They're still a bit shy about it. If they did, the apostles would recognize right away that Jesus is referencing Isaiah 22, given them being depicted with vast knowledge of the Old Testament.
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 5 дней назад
As a Anglican I understand apostolic succession. A disciple had students who had students who had students and each is a successor. Peter is the rock and he had successor and his priesthood lineage was the most important of the apostles. So I tend to see this as affirming the proto papacy. That said there's two lineages. The Coptic and Catholic popes who descend from different students of Peter's teachings. I'm Anglican myself because I think kings over popes but I personally respect the papacy position and have no problem if the Anglican, Catholic and Coptic churches reconcile ecumenical unity. Since Copts have a pope and Anglicans high church apostolic tradition, to be honest the Copts and Anglicans can reunited with Catholics as a rite. A English rite and Copts join the Catholic Alexandrian rite. The greatest representation of Christianity is unity so that they (non Christians) may know God's kingdom. As a protestant I defend the reformation as it happened but now think the controversies have ended. (Communally I'll stay Anglican but ecumenically would be happy if the King and Pope reunited in religion) So unlike most Protestants I'm not hostile towards Catholicism. Or yes the Pope. So why am I not Catholic? Because nothing is achieved if I just joined. It's better if the whole Anglican institution converted and the 80 million of this denomination enter communion with the Catholic Church as a institution and pray for such reconciliation.
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 4 дня назад
"Nothing is achieved"? Jesus prayed that we would all be one. Is unity nothing?
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 4 дня назад
@@randycarson9812 i also pray for unity
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 4 дня назад
​@@noahtylerpritchett2682 But dude, you could also act on it. Just sayin'. And do you know why it is important? Here is the specific passage from John 17:20-23 (NIV): "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one-I in them and you in me-so that they may be brought to complete unity. *Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."* In this passage, Jesus prays for the unity of all believers, emphasizing that this unity is a reflection of the unity between Him and the Father. The purpose of this unity is so that the world may believe that the Father sent Jesus and that the Father loves the believers as He loves Jesus. The prayer highlights the importance of unity among Christians as a testimony to the world of the truth of the Gospel and the love of God. As things are, the world mocks Christians because we are not unified. Change that.
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 4 дня назад
@@randycarson9812 truth
@marcusdenning1649
@marcusdenning1649 3 дня назад
The Bible confirms the papacy
@johnchrysostom330
@johnchrysostom330 4 дня назад
Protestants, William Albright and C.S. Mann in "Matthew" Anchor bible, ESV Study Bible series admit Peter is the rock
@workinprogress-ye5or
@workinprogress-ye5or 11 часов назад
Just ask anyone who founded the Catholic church, even Siri... ; ) You get only one answer.
@gregorypizarro9403
@gregorypizarro9403 3 дня назад
Where did you get this clip, I can’t seem to find the new series
@SipswithSerra
@SipswithSerra 3 дня назад
@@gregorypizarro9403 it’s only on the chosen app I believe. This is season 4 episode 2
@user-gb9dg6jn2n
@user-gb9dg6jn2n 5 дней назад
Well, though I firmly believe that Matthew's passage definitely asserts the Primacy of Peter, I also know that there are others who feel it refers to Jesus as 'the Rock' and Peter as only a lesser rocker. Using the Greek to denote a pebble over the Aramaic that implies a boulder. Neither side of the issue should take offense as to how it was done in "The Chosen". The same, IMO, can be said of the institution of the Eucharist, or the Bread of Life narrative of Jn. 6. I'm fairly sure it will not step on anyone's toes, but will use what the Bible says.
@kellyedington8716
@kellyedington8716 2 дня назад
Loved it! 😁
@attiasprouse682
@attiasprouse682 5 дней назад
I was upset when Jesus seemed to be handing the keys to all of them, but then, later, Matthew says Peter was given they keys (but he doesn’t say Peter alone). The Chosen Sleuth has a video about how Peter was not given the keys (or how his name change is insignificant) - I didn’t watch it because I didn’t want to get upset.
@Nicole_Marie_
@Nicole_Marie_ 4 дня назад
The Chosen Sleuth takes any chance he can to deny Catholicism. I had to comment over there and pointed out the work of Brant Pitre, who has a doctorate, and points out the Jewish roots and meaning of the keys, and why Peter actually was given the keys to the Kingdom. Thought I’d at least try to point people to sources who actually have solud studies in this. 😅
@attiasprouse682
@attiasprouse682 4 дня назад
@@Nicole_Marie_ That’s a shame that he teaches against Catholicism because I like everything else he does, including tying in what is happening on screen to Bible verses. Just yesterday, I commented on his video the apostles didn’t have wives (sans Peter), The Bible has always had 73 Books (that was on a different video, not yesterday’s), and Peter had to still be alive in Episode 7 because Paul is alive and writing letters. When people contended these, I defended and backed up what I said on at least one point. I think I also defended Mary’s virginity by saying all the other “brothers” had different mothers and fathers. Somebody brought up “until” Matthew 1:25 and I think I included a Tim Staples article with a Jewish Encyclopedia inclusion defending Catholicism.
@alexdelosreyes6076
@alexdelosreyes6076 4 дня назад
Jenkins probably researched this. That or he saw or joined Steve Ray's pilgrimage
@josemaria_s
@josemaria_s 4 дня назад
The thing is, a Catholic shouldn't watch "fair to all point of views" contents... The path of religion nutrition in life is towards perfection, not towards open mindness. There are plenty of movies to recreate, but this series makes a distorsión of your spiritual images and beliefs.
@dannylongo4694
@dannylongo4694 4 дня назад
Jesus does confirm it, he choose Simon who's name he changed to Peter , as all pope's after Peter also changed their names as was and still is tradition in the Catholic church.
@hagioverse7889
@hagioverse7889 4 дня назад
The chosen proclaimed a heresy in the latest episode by letting mary speak about her sons/plural….
@SipswithSerra
@SipswithSerra 4 дня назад
Oh dang I didn't catch that. What a shame...
@havefaithlikeachildk3300
@havefaithlikeachildk3300 3 дня назад
I noticed also this Season 4 that they played her as not knowing anything about the coming suffering of the Messiah when she clearly knows it will happened. (Simeon’s Prophecy) They are really missing a lot.
@jamesajiduah2001
@jamesajiduah2001 10 часов назад
Stepsons can still call their stepmom mother.
@mariafaccio8667
@mariafaccio8667 4 дня назад
Love your shirt! 😉
@DylanGames1000
@DylanGames1000 5 дней назад
Yes it does because the papacy is biblical and a divine institution and all those outside the Catholic Church Christ church is outside salvation
@amysill3815
@amysill3815 5 дней назад
I don’t think this is what the catechism says. Edit: the catechism doesn’t say that those outside the Catholic Church are outside of salvation.
@HOSPlTALLER
@HOSPlTALLER 4 дня назад
If you believe in the Papacy, then you must believe that God's grace is not limited to the Church, but may extend to those outside of the Catholic Church, God saves whom he saves, he is after all 'God'. The Catholic Church does however, have the fullness of truth.
@DylanGames1000
@DylanGames1000 4 дня назад
@@amysill3815 2nd Vatican council does. That is an argument out of ignorance. So many people including Catholics actually believe the church doesn’t teach outside the Catholic Church there’s no salvation when 100% it LITERALLY does. It’s always has and still is. No matter what anyone tells you.
@DylanGames1000
@DylanGames1000 4 дня назад
@@HOSPlTALLER those who become aware of the church and the truth of it and still remain outside it cannot be saved this is stated in the second Vatican council
@HOSPlTALLER
@HOSPlTALLER 4 дня назад
@@DylanGames1000 Okay, just to be clear - by 'Church' are you including non-Catholic Christians? I.e. can Protestants be saved? CCC 838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter." Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church." With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord's Eucharist."
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