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Did The Ford Dealership Technician's Neglect Cause This 3.5L EcoBoost Engine to Fail? 

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In this video we tear down a 2nd Gen Ford 3.5L EcoBoost engine to determine the point of failure. ‪@ford‬ #fordf150 #f150 #automobile #automotive #fordvehicle #f150ecoboost #raptor
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@SurfBandFan
@SurfBandFan 3 дня назад
I switched from GM in 1985 to Ford. After 35+ years of Broncos, F150's, super duty's, escapes, edges and rangers, satisfactory no complaint sales and services, The service manager at my Chishire CT Ford dealership promised me a "real Ford tech" ( named Johnny) when I brought my 100k mi. escape 3.0 v6 for a motor reseal because of timing cover leaks. When I got the car home and took a look-see at what I paid $2300 for, I found the valve cover bolts were loose (hand Tight), the oil dipstick was sitting on the cowl, and the front engine mounting bolts lock washers werent even compressed. (Johnny and his torque wrench!) After they re-did the job TWICE they got the leaking oil and coolant down to a spott-drip of oil. Ford quality of both product and service has taken a bad turn. Time to switch from cars I always loved- Why? because great engineering and style has gone to hell. Seems like they are good at doing two things nowadays: oil changes and warranty motor change-outs
@2nickles647
@2nickles647 3 дня назад
😅😅...a real technician eh? Just right out of skool. Good thing I work on my own stuff. I cannot complain about it. If I screw up, I feel bad about it. I take pride in fixing my own family vehicle for years. God bless sir.
@SurfBandFan
@SurfBandFan 3 дня назад
@@2nickles647 a gray hair
@ohger1
@ohger1 3 дня назад
Yeah, after 35+ years of history who wouldn't abandon ship with a single problem? I don't even own a Ford but I do 99% -100% of my own repairs, and if I didn't repair my own cars, I'd take it to a well respected independent like Brian here. And whatever you move to, realize that cars are far more needlessly complicated than they were 10 years ago and even late model Toyotas are blowing engines and having transmission failures. Whatever you get, make sure you buy a long warranty with it. Oh, and Cheshire Ford's labor rates are ridiculous. I had them price a 3.5 Edge water pump for my mother in law, it was $1500 more than she had it done for in Wolcott by a local independent (Fran's).
@mattvanatti9531
@mattvanatti9531 3 дня назад
Competence left the stealership technicians long time ago...they have ripped people off for multi millions of dollars and should be out of business and sitting in jail next to our federal government elites
@peterpeter5666
@peterpeter5666 3 дня назад
as a tech for almost 40 years i can honestly say nobody gives a damm anymore . there are no more GOOD tech left. just part changers and all the young kids now a days dont want to get their hands dirty or dont even know how to read a shop manual anymore. we lost the basic knowledge of simple things and everybody jumps to the high tech repair before even the simplest of things are checked. also doesnt help engineers dont give a damm about the tech or how stupid it is to fix simple things and quality is no longer job1 . its all disposable now. BUY DRIVE send to the scrap yard BUY AGAIN !
@KEJECENE
@KEJECENE 3 дня назад
I'm 55yo and still lay down on my driveway and change my own oil, on all my cars and bikes. The cost savings is secondary to knowing i did the job right, a little bit of back pain hurts less than new engine replacement
@chuckgladfelter
@chuckgladfelter 2 дня назад
I'm 63 and still do my own servicing including transfer case, transmission, differentials, etc. I feel your pain too. Getting old sucks but beats the alternative.
@robertleonard5144
@robertleonard5144 День назад
Ditto
@1798iscomingback
@1798iscomingback День назад
Im 53 and do the same. Last time I had an oil change at the dealer (GM), I came to find out that I drove the car 5000 miles with the drain plug finger tight... they put the plug back but didn't tighten it. Luckly it didn't came off in 5K miles...
@bizzfo
@bizzfo День назад
Yup. Dealership service departments are incompetent. It didn’t used to be that way. But that’s what happens when people don’t give a crap about anything they work on.
@ItsMeJbird
@ItsMeJbird 3 дня назад
Truck sounded like my cat outside trying to get in the front door.
@thefreedomwarrior
@thefreedomwarrior 2 дня назад
I don’t trust dealerships anymore. To my 6th gen Taurus for a water pump replacement at $2600.00. Picked it up and 6 weeks later my motor blew. They said “not our fault, we can replace your motor with a used one for $9000. No more newer cars for me. Still driving my 24 year old excursion and able to fix everything myself. My old 2008 Taurus has 240k miles. I fix everything myself.
@thomasnew8606
@thomasnew8606 13 часов назад
We have a 2007 Tahoe with 192000 miles. I have done all of the work on it and it runs great. My beautiful wife wanted something new as we had the Tahoe since 2010. So we got a new 23 Expedition Limited. It is great but I am a bit nervous to say the least.
@vonJaerschky
@vonJaerschky 3 дня назад
Damn I hate the internet! What I love is my 2018 F150 with the 3.5EB. But all the scary stuff you see on the internet makes you feel like you're riding a ticking time bomb. I've had my truck since new, and never had an issue. I'm meticulous on the oil changes, no more than 5,000 miles with a top quality synthetic oil. With the price of new trucks, I'm keeping this as long as I can. I'll keep doing the oil changes and taking care of it, and see how it goes. Love this channel.
@danielrubio6675
@danielrubio6675 3 дня назад
Maintenance/ oil changes is KEY with these engines. I also change the oil every 5k
@jiggidyjam
@jiggidyjam 3 дня назад
Well you know where to take it when it does crap the bed
@a.s.4914
@a.s.4914 3 дня назад
I've owned a few different makes of cars and I think there is some luck involved. Keeping clean oil in her is the best defense but sometimes bad things happen. Anything mechanical can have a failure. Even Toyotas and Hondas can have a problem. I guess it's a numbers thing when too many of your engines are having the same problem, especially early in mileage. Synthetic oil every 5000 or once a year for low mileage retired folk like me. Hopefully we stay lucky! 🤘
@jimmieb1773
@jimmieb1773 3 дня назад
Oil changes every 4,500-5,000 miles on full synthetic. 3,500 max on synthetic blend. Those twin turbos are hard on oil life, lots of heat in those babies. Oh also put a catch can on it.
@JasPlun
@JasPlun 3 дня назад
Well what we see on the internet is a small % of failures in the grand scheme of things, but if your the one that gets that failure it really sucks. My last work truck was a Ram 2500 4x4 6.4l Hemi. I was always worried about cam/lifter failure happening which never came. It made it to 200k miles before biting the dust due to a new employee over heating it. I had just moved into my new 2024 Ram 2500 and heard it failed. In our work fleet only 2 had that problem and were from workers not well known for staying on top of maintenance. All you can do is stay on top of the maintenance and try not to abuse them too much. That being said I still research and like to go with brands with the least amount of failures. I have never been a one brand loyalist as I think that is silly. I just go with what I like and can afford at the time of purchase. I have to say I know Rams are not well known for being bullet proof, but they damn sure ride and handle very well and always even with the work trucks have a banging sound system. I believe our company will be switching to Ford or GM next fleet purchase because we are not sure how well the Hurricane inline six will hold up in the oil field.
@on-site4094
@on-site4094 3 дня назад
Knock knock who’s there uncle Rodney 😂
@meggatron3
@meggatron3 3 дня назад
you cant come in because I just spun mr Bearing
@bills6093
@bills6093 3 дня назад
Well, it was Uncle Mains.
@dougnorton5143
@dougnorton5143 2 дня назад
And Baron! 😂
@kerrylewis2581
@kerrylewis2581 2 дня назад
Knock, knock. Bang, bang 😥
@Harb67
@Harb67 2 дня назад
🤣🤣🤣
@JasPlun
@JasPlun 3 дня назад
Very expensive failure I feel for the guy that owns this truck! I had a bad experience with the local Toyota dealership for my wife's 2020 Camry SE that pretty much told me you can't trust dealerships. They over filled her engine by 3 qrts. On her way home car started stalling and blowing out smoke so the tech did not even check the oil level after filling it. She knows to check the oil after oil changes, but she did not that time. She learned why she should always check it after that. That dealer now requires them to show the customer the dipstick after every oil change. They did go through the car to make sure no damage was detected. You hear that type of thing happening at Wal-Marts, but a Toyota Dealer? Just goes to show the carelessness of people now days.
@jimmieb1773
@jimmieb1773 3 дня назад
Today's mechanics don't have the skills of the old school mechanics. If the computer doesn't tell them what's wrong they can't fix it and they don't care about details (correct oil level) . Just in and out and is it time to go home.
@KStewart-th4sk
@KStewart-th4sk 2 дня назад
@@jimmieb1773 Too many people have the idea that the mechanics just hook up the scan tool, read the DTC's that the computer has set, and then they know what to change. Big mistake to think that, for those taking their vehicles to get fixed, also the mechanics who seem to lack the training and only go by the codes that were set. Then they start throwing parts at it. Eric O. at South Main Auto and Ivan at Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics have shown countless times how so-called "factory trained techs" at dealers have FAILED. Often after charging hundreds or thousands of dollars and not fixing the problem. I am sure some techs at dealerships are good, BUT there also seems to be a lot of bad ones too.
@Vendemeer
@Vendemeer День назад
30 years ago I took our 91 Camry to the dealer for routine 60k mile trans service before a 300+ mile trip. During the drive the car had a couple odd shifting episodes and the day after we returned I found a pool of tranny fluid under the car. I called the dealership and scheduled an appointment because the fluid had obviously been overfilled. I waited at the dealer for the car to be checked out and when the svc mgr called me up to the counter he said I needed a valve cover gasket and distributor gasket. I asked what about the trans oil leak and he said “hard to tell where that is coming from with all oil leaking from the engine”. No thanks, and I never went back to that dealer or bought another Toyota. Those gaskets were not leaking. The car had over 200k when it was traded and the gaskets were never replaced or the transmission serviced again.
@blackscotydog
@blackscotydog 3 дня назад
This is making my old 4.0 sohc Ranger look good...220k and still going strong.
@bigcatauna
@bigcatauna 2 дня назад
que the ford ranger song
@snowg4953
@snowg4953 2 дня назад
238000 on my explorer
@kellismith4329
@kellismith4329 День назад
440K on my old ‘93 w/300 I6
@jimmysteelart
@jimmysteelart 13 часов назад
1996 Splash with the 4.0 OHV engine and still runs like new. Original everything. Alternator, starter, water pump. Only had to swap out trans 10 years ago.
@jimmysteelart
@jimmysteelart 13 часов назад
@@kellismith4329 Best engine Ford ever made. Too bad they could pass emissions in 97. That was the end of a 30+ year run of a bullet proof masterpiece.
@a.s.4914
@a.s.4914 3 дня назад
That's a mad Raptor! You're the best Ford Tech. Thanks for the video. 👍
@gloryland59
@gloryland59 3 дня назад
Best ford information on the web.
@182QKFTW
@182QKFTW 3 дня назад
I mean, should we really be needing to replace the timing system on ~80k mile engines in the first place? My answer would be NO. Ridiculous
@alanwheeler3309
@alanwheeler3309 3 дня назад
I have a 2001 ford ranger 3.0 v6. 201000 miles. Still going good but I do a lot of my own maintenance.
@carlbruhn1772
@carlbruhn1772 3 дня назад
Very informative . Thanks for breaking it down.
@Lyle-tm1tm
@Lyle-tm1tm День назад
My best friend is a mechanic at my local Honda/Acura dealership and many of the newest Honda/Acura vehicles are being built cheaply. Lots of minor issues with my 2022 Acura MDX as well as my wife's Lexus rx. Luckily no issues with drivetrain that left us stranded but the minor issues are annoying. Was looking at a new Honda Odyssey with my daughter and the rear power tailgate had a huge gap on one side and dealer said they recently switched to now just having 1 motor on the right side to close the hatch now so there will be a gap.
@jdwht2455
@jdwht2455 3 дня назад
Took my 46,000 mile '19 with 3.5EB in for cam phasers. Two complete tear downs and two sets of cam phasers and associated parts, and 13 days later got my truck back. Do I trust that truck now - got my fingers crossed but so far it has been faithful over the last 500 or so miles. The positives - a timely (due) oil, filter and coolant change - two times and one plus mpg gas mileage increase (so far). If it 'blows' my no charge receipt is ready to show that the engine has been opened twice
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 3 дня назад
Cam phasers at 46k? Lol that's horrible
@jdwht2455
@jdwht2455 3 дня назад
@@samholdsworth420 Yep. That's what the service manager said as well (he is also a 40+ year friend as well) This is a babied truck that has had oil changed every 3500-4000 miles and done at the dealership
@eggbert191
@eggbert191 3 дня назад
Sounded like my washing machine on a spin cycle with a big towel in it
@name-ob6np
@name-ob6np 3 дня назад
Nice Milwaukee lights !! I appreciate all your videos. Very good information.
@knobbiesshreaded3137
@knobbiesshreaded3137 3 дня назад
2018 50k. Full Syn every 3k. Phasers replaced a couple months ago. Into the shop today with a stuck caliper, smoking right rear brake. Fun times.
@jeremiah-om7zl
@jeremiah-om7zl 3 дня назад
I couldn't believe 3,000 mile oil changes. I had to read it twice😂. People think synthetic oil goes farther. 🎩 off to ya. FYI, do your own work......... yes you can
@smiller225
@smiller225 3 дня назад
I did a stuck rear caliper on my 18 a few months ago
@alb12345672
@alb12345672 3 дня назад
@@smiller225 same with my 11. Replaced all calipers and hoses, was not really expensive. Almost 200K.
@jeremiah-om7zl
@jeremiah-om7zl 3 дня назад
@smiller225 calipers are easy, buy a loaded caliper
@knobbiesshreaded3137
@knobbiesshreaded3137 3 дня назад
@@jeremiah-om7zl Truck has Powerstop Z36 rotors and pads. And, my right arm is temporarily out of action. Hence...in the shop.
@29auto30
@29auto30 3 дня назад
What really stinks he just paid for that timing job, and it only has 84,000 miles on it, now he has to pay for a engine... $10,000? SMH..
@seandieger3317
@seandieger3317 3 дня назад
I would never go 6 or 7000 miles on a oil change. 5000 even seems extreme. 3 to 4000 for me. Oil is cheep insurance.
@bvu950
@bvu950 3 дня назад
It was working until the dealer fixed it, sounds too familiar. I agree with another post. Dealer may have done timing job and somebody started it before they added oil. Countdown to disaster.
@christuttle3980
@christuttle3980 3 дня назад
Long live the V8😎
@kenj.8897
@kenj.8897 3 дня назад
Cylinder count doesn't matter, quality does and Ford hasn't had it for 20 years
@Shiver2002
@Shiver2002 3 дня назад
@@kenj.8897 I disagree. Their quality really only fell off in the last 5 years or so.
@Shiver2002
@Shiver2002 3 дня назад
The 5.0 isn't exactly problem free these days either..\
@christuttle3980
@christuttle3980 3 дня назад
First On Race Day
@meggatron3
@meggatron3 3 дня назад
@@Shiver2002 right ive had quite a few fords over 200k miles with good engines that had plenty of life left
@jiggidyjam
@jiggidyjam 3 дня назад
I was talking to a guy at taco hell the other day that had a 2014 f150 w/ 3.5 and he has 287k miles and he said he has had zero issues so far
@mph5896
@mph5896 3 дня назад
Guess it all depends on what day it was built. I replaced a 2015 3.5 turbo last fall @ 87k due to a timing chain that broke and crashed the valves.
@jiggidyjam
@jiggidyjam 3 дня назад
@@mph5896 damn that sucks
@tagle2818
@tagle2818 3 дня назад
I guarantee he has turbo coolant lines leaking he just keeps typing it off.
@nickl3872
@nickl3872 3 дня назад
Wtf he is lucky lol
@DapimpBDSD
@DapimpBDSD 3 дня назад
Its luck, i had to replace a MAF that went bad @24k miles.
@rf159a
@rf159a 3 дня назад
The oil looks like metallic paint!
@josephvantreeck2989
@josephvantreeck2989 3 дня назад
thx Brian
@fZionists78
@fZionists78 2 дня назад
The people’s most valued Ford Tech.
@kellismith4329
@kellismith4329 День назад
The peoples champion
@marksearcy9708
@marksearcy9708 3 дня назад
Great video! You think the broken piece of aluminum from the sensor is what started the problem?🤔
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 дня назад
The only thing that I see for sure.
@michaelscully8461
@michaelscully8461 2 дня назад
Brian, you show us the result, but what exactly was the cause? Aftermarket tune? Bad gas? Poor assembly? Looks like the oil was changed often enough.
@crVic_r
@crVic_r День назад
Using light oil and modern technology side by side is a winning formula for spoiling things.
@JohnSmith-qi9qs
@JohnSmith-qi9qs 3 дня назад
Why do the mains fail like that? Why do some fail and not the others?
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 3 дня назад
That's gonna be a very expensive repair. I'm sure that complete engine replacement is not cheap! This is where a professional like Brian should be maintaining this vehicle. No 10,000 mile oil changes either! It's 3500 to 4000 miles or 6 months which ever comes first! Thank you for this video.
@hotpuppy1
@hotpuppy1 2 дня назад
That is too clean inside to have gone 10k on the oil change. Spun mains is unusual. I am betting more on a manufacturing defect.
@jimamizzi1
@jimamizzi1 3 дня назад
So was it oil starvation? The pickup even tho it had crap in there still should have been ok..or should it? The engine seemed very clean inside so I’m guessing it had regular oil changes. Excellent video, thumbs 👍from me.
@john7017
@john7017 3 дня назад
I'm done with Ford now after dealing with the 3 valve Triton mess and now this. Ford should stand behind their engines and correct them promptly under warranty. Gone are the days of the indestructible 4.9L straight 6 engine that last 500,000 plus miles. I have one in my 96 F-150 and it still runs great.
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 2 дня назад
I have the 4.6L 2V motor in my '05 Explorer it still runs strong as ever, even after a quarter million miles. No engine work at all other than new intake manifold gaskets.
@crVic_r
@crVic_r День назад
Using light oil and modern technology side by side is a winning formula for spoiling things.
@softwaresignals
@softwaresignals 2 дня назад
Guessing the engine was running with no oil in the sump for a while. Maybe the previous timing job tech forgot to put oil back in it before running it???? Then, main bearing material went to the pan, and then somehow (filter's bypass open on a cold start-up?) it made it past the oil filter and on up to the cam phasor screens.
@kerrylewis2581
@kerrylewis2581 2 дня назад
I had the same thought
@patpeacock8150
@patpeacock8150 3 дня назад
That rod knock
@JohnMurphy-dw6ml
@JohnMurphy-dw6ml 3 дня назад
So what was the conclusion? What caused the crankshaft bearings to fail?
@RonRussell-sj1zf
@RonRussell-sj1zf 3 дня назад
Mains usually fail when oil pressure is suddenly lost, like drain plug falls out, or started by accident after an oil drain but no oil put back in, or a filter o-ring blew out. Rods usually fail when engine run low on oil for an extended time.
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 День назад
I was wondering the same thing. What was the root cause? How did the metal get in the phaser solenoids? The oil would have passed through the filter so should be clean. Debris from the mains would be flushed into the sump so cannot make its way to the top of the engine. It sounds like the oil filter wasn’t doing its job.
@JohnMurphy-dw6ml
@JohnMurphy-dw6ml День назад
@@RonRussell-sj1zf Yes, I am well aware of that, but why didn’t he come to a conclusion on the video. He’s the one who made the accusation.
@acdii
@acdii День назад
@@kevinmills5293 The debris in the solenoids is from the bearings that failed. Somehow the material got pulled into the crank and fed upstream to the heads, but that is bearing goo in the screens. Root cause is speculation at this point, we know what failed, but the answer to why is a mystery. As others said, maybe it got started without oil which marked the bearings and then just driving did it in.
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 День назад
@@acdii “somehow” is not possible.
@nightstorm9128
@nightstorm9128 2 дня назад
The chain on this thing is like a pushbike chain,,,
@oldjarhead386
@oldjarhead386 3 дня назад
A lot of varnishing inside that engine. Especially for 85k. Extended or low quality oil changes?? I’ve built plenty of 4.6s that looked like new inside at those miles
@harleybubba747
@harleybubba747 3 дня назад
My 01 F-150 will hit 200K by the end of this month. 4.6 2v fresh dino oil and Wix every 3000 miles since new, no real issues. 06 Explorer 4.0 same story. Take care of them and they take care of you.
@vincentrose9060
@vincentrose9060 3 дня назад
Theres my arguement for bringing back the V8. Even though the 3.5L V6 has more power & torque than the 5.4L. You have fewer pistons, rods, cylindeds, and in this case fewer bearings handling the stress load than the 5.4L V8. Does my argument hold water?
@Akshark58
@Akshark58 3 дня назад
I wonder if the line bore was off spec, from the factory?
@markk3652
@markk3652 3 дня назад
This seems to me, a point of assembly problem. Something was out of spec, be it bearing or machining of hard components. The oil changes were evidenced upon engine disassembly, so that gets ruled out. A bad set of bearings, or improperly machined rotational parts looks to have played the part in the destruction.
@SvnBchk
@SvnBchk 2 дня назад
84K miles sucks! Something went bad, and I do not think it was the customer or Fords fault, at least on the surface. If the front cover had not been taken off, then I would blame Ford. Good luck proving the dealership tech is to blame, although that oil control switch is very telling…
@1976Datsun
@1976Datsun 3 дня назад
So the oil from the mains flows up to the camshaft control solenoids? You didn't really say. Would have been neat to see an oil flow path illustration. You didn't really answer the title question either. Oil change intervals too long? Or just an owner beating on his truck? Still a good video. Just leaves questions...
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 дня назад
I specified at least twice the direction the oil flows after the filter and I did mention 5, 6, 7k mile oil change intervals plus you can tell that just by looking at the engine.
@1976Datsun
@1976Datsun 3 дня назад
@@FordTechMakuloco Thanks for replying. I'm familiar with the direction but as you know in some places the oil exits after it does its job, like for the rod bearings. Passes through the rod bearings and out the sides to the pan. What you're saying is that the oil passes through the mains then up to the VCT solenoids. Seems unusual.
@paulmarczak1062
@paulmarczak1062 3 дня назад
@@1976Datsun the oil feeds are a one way trip to its consumers, it can’t flow through the mains and up to the heads. Comes through the main bearings, to rods and that’s it. Solenoids got it from the junk in the pan, likely through a filter bypass if there is one or the filters own bypass.
@1976Datsun
@1976Datsun 3 дня назад
@@paulmarczak1062 Thanks, that's what I thought also (actually added another comment about it). So, unless there was bypassing the main bearing material could not make it up to the solenoids. Would be interesting to see what is in the filter.
@christopherandersen5950
@christopherandersen5950 3 дня назад
but where is the broken piece of the connector holder.. was that the pieces in the pickup..
@MrsSunshine75
@MrsSunshine75 3 дня назад
@chris That’s where I too thought the vid was heading to!
@chrischiampo7647
@chrischiampo7647 2 дня назад
😮🤕😮😲 Insane Amount of Carnage Brian Wowzers
@Ryansroga-wm6pj
@Ryansroga-wm6pj 3 дня назад
Nice find thanks for sharing
@F.o.s.t.e.r.
@F.o.s.t.e.r. 3 дня назад
I had a dealership in Toledo do my phasors, got the truck back and the main bearing was wiped out, sounded very similarly. Naturally, the dealership said it was like that before and told me to sue them.
@bobtenharkel4367
@bobtenharkel4367 2 дня назад
Did you ?
@F.o.s.t.e.r.
@F.o.s.t.e.r. 2 дня назад
@@bobtenharkel4367 no, the dealership has a reputation of tying things up in court so even if I would've won, I would've spent more fighting them than just cutting my losses. I sold it off to carvana wholesale (informed them of everything) and just moved on. It sucked but frankly, I'm kind of done with Ford after the last two flops I've had from them. Picked up a fourth gen Sierra 2500 and absolutely love it.
@d-tone551
@d-tone551 2 дня назад
I’ve been an F150 guy all my life I’ve always gone 150-200k miles with no major mechanical issues - no timing jobs no rebuilds before selling the truck in usable condition to someone else and then buying a new truck. I’m currently driving 2007 F150 and am overdue for a replacement but these new turbocharged engines just scare the crap out of me. Why in the world would you need an expensive timing job and then a full engine replacement at less than 100k miles. Dear god what has happened to these once tough trucks! It’s not just Ford, they all seem to suck now.
@Rx4Lyfe
@Rx4Lyfe День назад
Sounds exactly like a top loader washing machine with unbalanced load on uneven footings
@tonyf2268
@tonyf2268 3 дня назад
Great video
@jedgeled759
@jedgeled759 2 дня назад
spent 30+ years workin for ford stealerships and i seen my share of cavemen who could care less about quality repairs,,,if a little mallet wouldnt seat the front cover ,bring out the sledge and make it seat !!!! thats flat rate for Ya !!!!!
@andysmith2155
@andysmith2155 3 дня назад
Oil consumption, probably ran low on oil causing damage.
@calholli
@calholli 3 дня назад
Maybe so..
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 дня назад
It was never that low which is how he found it was a problem is the first place.
@duggydo
@duggydo 3 дня назад
Well, at least it didn't lock up like the Toyota's are doing when they spin a main. It must have been debris instead of a lack of oil. I bet that chunk they broke off during the timing job caused it.
@blkcoupequattro
@blkcoupequattro День назад
I'm betting someone forgot to put oil in it after changing it, and started it up no oil, doesn't take long with no oil to ruin an engine 10-15 seconds no oil you start to get bearing material transfer to the crank....
@randysrestoration
@randysrestoration 3 дня назад
Looks to me a dealer dropped oil then started ran possible drove truck failed to add oil until realized. Then after too late added oil then let truck go.
@thelefthandedshooter381
@thelefthandedshooter381 3 дня назад
I just got the phaser rattle on my gen2 3.5 cohost in a 2018 Expedition 67000 miles. Do I need to rush to get the phaser replaced or do I live with it? I’m using Flood Start Mode to prime the oil and getting no rattle. I do all the oil changes at 5k or lower. I don’t have a Brian near by that I can absolutely trust to do it right the first time.
@marks93cobra
@marks93cobra 3 дня назад
Every time I watch one of these videos it just reaffirms my desire to never buy another turbo Ford ever again (Coyote, Godzilla or nothing for me).
@thk7513
@thk7513 3 дня назад
Am I mistaken, the screen on the phaser solenoids have metal residue on them, therefore the bearing material IS getting past the oil filter. Those oil passages are fed oil downstream of the filter.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 дня назад
the oil goes to the crank and rod journals first then onto the heads and vct solenoids last so between the filter and the solenoid is where the metal is getting introduced.
@1798iscomingback
@1798iscomingback День назад
Never let your turbo engine overheat, change the engine oil at 5K miles and always use top tier full synthetic... Thats how you make your turbo engine last. The bearing spun probably because of overheating....
@je1279
@je1279 3 дня назад
Sounds like it has those new fangled disconnecting rods.
@rf159a
@rf159a 3 дня назад
Ford: "Your engine will self-destruct in 50,000 miles." Ford must have taken lessons from "Mission Impossible".
@Chef-James
@Chef-James 3 дня назад
Eco-BOOM! I think I'll go outside and give my 5.6 hemi Titan a big hug. Former blue blood.
@francisgall6172
@francisgall6172 10 часов назад
We see the carnage but you didn't really say what may have caused it. The engine was obviously well maintained so was it a factory defect?
@budshatto3683
@budshatto3683 3 дня назад
My two cents says the owner thought he had a hot rod because it was a Raptor!
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 дня назад
It should be able to handle the stock calibration.
@poorhouseracing
@poorhouseracing 2 дня назад
I had a 18 F-150 4x4 5.0 with the oli consumption problem,at 50k the dealership replaced the engine after a lot of back and forth of them trying to tell me that 3 quarts of oil in 5k miles was considered normal. They had the truck for 10 weeks to do the repairs. They removed the cab to do the engine swap. 3 days after getting it back from the dealership, my wife was driving down the interstate at 70 mph and the steering wheel locked up, the truck left the roadway and hit a big oak tree before she could get it stopped. It totaled the truck, Ford was notified and supposedly sent out an engineer to the salvage yard, but of course found nothing their technician had done wrong. Coincidence or did something not get tightened on the steering shaft?
@UQRXD
@UQRXD 3 дня назад
For the metal to get past filter. I will guess the filter bypass opened at some point. I knew it was the main bearings from the sound right off. Rebuilt many engines in my time. Thanks for showing.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 дня назад
No the metal was produced after the filter.
@calholli
@calholli 3 дня назад
@@FordTechMakuloco You mean the metal.. :)
@UQRXD
@UQRXD 3 дня назад
@@FordTechMakuloco I see thanks for reply.
@nightstorm9128
@nightstorm9128 2 дня назад
It's funny how back in the 80s and 90s car manufacturers could make engines that could comfortably go 4 or 5 hundred thousand miles,,With little or no problem,,,The old GM 3600 and 3800 could do half a million miles on 10k oil changes,,,No probs,,,Now in 2024 That technology seems to be lost,,,Isn't technology supposed to advance with time,,,,Its backward we have gone,,,Think about it,,,,,,,,,,,,An old flathead engine from the 1930s is superior in almost every way ,,To 99 percent of all gas engines today,,,Except maybe for fuel economy,,,,,,,,We really are living in a upside down world,,
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 2 дня назад
There's some boob (won't name him so he doesn't feel bad) claims full syn oils cause sludge in his Godzilla engine. That's BS. In my personal and business vehicles, 3k oci and good oil. period. Trans at 25k and diff at 50k. Never had a failure.
@ctbale1
@ctbale1 2 дня назад
You never said what your opinion was why there was bearing damage. (Oil starvation is the correct answer or QC when it was built. But that would blow up way before 89k. Dealer miss diagnosed the noise and boned him for a timing job??
@paulhudgins5120
@paulhudgins5120 2 дня назад
Damn way too low of mileage to be putting a motor in it, I will keep my 97 F150 4.6L 2V with over 286K.
@stephenreiner1523
@stephenreiner1523 3 дня назад
Uhoh sounds like a main bearing gone.
@stephenbullock-yn3vh
@stephenbullock-yn3vh 3 дня назад
Quality down the tubes on these newer engines. I believe the oil pump loss pressure do to timing chain tensioners o ring failure
@johnknox5692
@johnknox5692 3 дня назад
Climbing steep hills, oil starvation. Maybe the 2 center cap were switched at factory somehow.
@jasonhalberg6348
@jasonhalberg6348 2 дня назад
I think you should change the name of this channel to the F150 channel as that seems to be all you cover lol.
@robertdavis4184
@robertdavis4184 3 дня назад
I could cure these problems Ford bring back the I 300 six good video
@JohnDiMartino
@JohnDiMartino 3 дня назад
You’ll never know exactly what caused the failure however based on how the front cover looked I’m goin to go out on a limb and guess the tech who replaced the phasers wasn’t careful or clean enough when he did the job and now years later the dealer is off the hook and the owners out 10-12 k for you to fix it right . What a shame ,it’s clear the owner was good with his maintenance.
@cmennenger
@cmennenger 3 дня назад
How far does the oil pump pickup screen sit above the oil pan? Could the broken casting have blocked the pickup screen causing oil starvation? I'm sure the pistons are short skirt type and lack of oil pressure would score pistons and damage rings. I feel the owners pain on that one.
@user-sf9pq5ox7w
@user-sf9pq5ox7w 3 дня назад
EcoBoost? Run.
@acdii
@acdii День назад
Did you find that broken piece in the pan, or did that last guy who broke it removed it? I am due for timing chain and water pump in my 2014 Flex EB. 185K miles, runs like new, but occasionally can hear chain slap on first start. What was the consensus on what caused the bearings to fail in the first place? Dry start after repairs? It had to be something the last Mech did, that engine is way too clean to fail that soon, and in that manner.
@MrRockydee07
@MrRockydee07 3 дня назад
Yes, great video, but this is off subject, Have a 2016 police interceptor utility has the 3.7 engine and still has the Ford Orange. coolant that Ford advised the change to the Yellow coolant becouse of the water aluminum water pump issues.
@pvanderwall3473
@pvanderwall3473 3 дня назад
Now it's like to see what the the rod bearing look like. That heavy knocking sounds a lot like a rod has spun a bearing too. Interesting for sure considering how clean that motor is. Definitely a failure
@kylel4361
@kylel4361 День назад
Seems like all new cars are built cheap. I have a 2024 Tacoma and the transmission needed replacing, it was a recall. The AC also went out and the clock stopped working. My wife's 2022 Honda CRV has had so many little dumb things like the airbag light, glovebox wouldn't open, power tailgate broke...ect. My daughter in law's 2021 Hyundai Palisade turned 75k miles and every month she has a new small dumb issue pop up from leaky sunroof to last week's fuel door would not open. My neighbor has the new Honda electric suv and has been in a loaner car more than he has driven the Honda. I used to bad mouth American cars but my f150 work truck with the ecoboost just hit 120k miles and never had any issues and I use it as a mobile office so it has lots of idle hours on it.
@Lyle-tm1tm
@Lyle-tm1tm День назад
Completely agree. My love for the Japanese cars is quickly fading. Seems like they are all made the same now...cheap cheap cheap. So many little issues with my 22 Acura MDX and wife's 21 Lexus RX as well as my daughter's 2023 rav4.
@robertleonard5144
@robertleonard5144 День назад
Uncle Rodney, is that you at the door?
@localcrew
@localcrew День назад
I will never own one of these complex new engines. They seem to be nothing but trouble.
@JOHNROWE-cl9iq
@JOHNROWE-cl9iq 3 дня назад
The question I would be asking is why? This is not normal for this engine. There has to be a cause🤔. Previous repair debris left behind to get picked up in the pump screen? 🤔
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 дня назад
It may have been floating around.
@1976Datsun
@1976Datsun 3 дня назад
Any chance the filter was clogged and the oil bypassed it?
@chiefordnance
@chiefordnance 3 дня назад
5.4 and 3.5L Uugh 😢 any teardown on 3.0 or 2.7Ls? 😊
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 3 дня назад
Looks like a bad crankshaft. Maybe dropped or heat core shift before assembly. I say this because of the two outer mains being in better shape than in the middle.
@deansapp4635
@deansapp4635 3 дня назад
Damm, Looks like oil starvation
@stevenwilliams4034
@stevenwilliams4034 2 дня назад
I have a 2008 expedition with 5.4 L 3 valve. It has an issue that would make for interesting content on your channel. The primary symptom is misfiring… But it only happens in reverse with a load (towing my boat). There are no misfires except for that scenario. When it does, the check engine light comes on and it throws a camshaft position sensor code, both of which have been replaced with genuine Motorcraft parts. I’d love your input!
@HarryFlesner
@HarryFlesner 8 часов назад
Check for wiring harness wear at the rear of the right head. It maybe grounding a bared wire when the engine torques "the opposite direction" in reverse.
@jrcll7856
@jrcll7856 2 дня назад
WOW
@Tomcat71
@Tomcat71 2 дня назад
Thats the factory antiseize maker package ....
@robertrpenny
@robertrpenny 2 дня назад
Ftm what do the experts say caused those main bearing failures? Oil too light or sheared down? Incorrect clearance? Pump gone bad? Turbo boost out of control? Those Ecoboosts are bout nuff to make you loco.
@elcochiii
@elcochiii 3 дня назад
Ford should have put the coyote in everything , expedition, explorer, raptor , bronco , etc.
@kenj.8897
@kenj.8897 3 дня назад
Would make the oil companies even more money lol
@JohnMurphy-dw6ml
@JohnMurphy-dw6ml 3 дня назад
Ford and what’s left of the other so-called American manufacturers need to go back to mechanical systems! These manufacturers have gone way too far with the electronics and electronic control systems! Another issue is using way too much plastic, and instead of using gaskets using silicone to seal components! This will never happen because nobody gives a shit anymore in this country!
@billsimpson604
@billsimpson604 2 дня назад
They had to do that to meet the government fleet mileage requirements. That stuff might change in about 4 months, depending on who wins the election.
@JohnMurphy-dw6ml
@JohnMurphy-dw6ml 2 дня назад
@@billsimpson604 So, in other words, it wastes a lot more fuel, while trying to save fuel!
@JBM802
@JBM802 3 дня назад
Reminds me of when Cletus melted the timing chain guides in neighbor so they replace the guides and hell yeah that’s fine. It wasn’t, they never thought about where that guide material went. They found out where it goes when it gets melted.
@JBM802
@JBM802 3 дня назад
I also think Ford should look into oil squirters for the timing chains, semi bath and splash. I guess it’s good enough, but it could be better you know.
@GregoryBirulkin
@GregoryBirulkin 2 дня назад
Bearings that are spinning, what cause it, loose bearing caps?
@sambrown8224
@sambrown8224 3 дня назад
At 16:00, why is there no locking tab on those bearings? Without the tab, the bearing will spin under load.
@allanrheaume5549
@allanrheaume5549 3 дня назад
Now I'm spooked, my truck is at 50k miles and I just had the phasers replaced 3 months ago. Wouldn't the oil filter pick up those shavings that we saw in the VCT solenoids before they can even get there?
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 3 дня назад
Yes, as explained so the metal we saw in the VCT solenoid screen was produced between the oil filter and the solenoids which is the end of the line.
@bills6093
@bills6093 3 дня назад
So why did it fail? What caused the mains to fail?
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