Did this Moira NOT heal? Or was the tank just feeding? | Spectating Overwatch 2 

The amount of times this Moira threw a healing orb at enemies has me triggered beyond belief

They’re too worried about their duo and honestly healing way too much

the constant healing full hp teammates out of enemy los bugged me so much for some reason lmao. Way too much healing without actually healing I feel

Tunnel vision on their friend, useless orbs and wasteful heals when full hp, and I couldn’t even recount when I saw mercy use blue beam 😭😭

Honestly? Tank was out of position a lot, but so was the entire team, tbh. The number of times I saw Bastion attempting to be a tank is concerning. Soldier didn't seem to know where he was half the time. Mercy was spending way too much time out in the open or right next to dangerous enemies. Moira was doing a lot of funni fades *into* danger. And yeah, the tank was doing a lot of 'I AM A TANK' nonsense. This whole game was a case study in how not to do positioning. This is why the mindset of 'focus on yourself' is so prevalent. Anyone on this team that was blaming others for throwing didn't have that right, cuz they were all kinda throwing. But the person that threw most of all was probably Orisa. Literally *giving up* and dicking around in spawn is never justified. You're playing a game with 9 other people. Grow up. Do your best and take the L if it comes.

The Moira: YOU get a healing orb, and YOU get a healing orb, and YOU💅🏽-

They mentioned that they had the most healing in the game. This is something that low elo players need to learn stats do not matter in the slightest. Yes they show you whose just complete getting rolled but high stats matter nothing. People have started learning damage numbers don't matter but you can have 75k healing and still lose. It truly matters how your using your kit when your healing and who you're healing. I wouldn't say Support is the most difficult role because every role has their own tasks and difficulties but Support is the role that gets punished the most the second you tunnel vision

So, this Moira is suffering from something I like to call “micro-managing.” It is very easy due to Moira’s high healing output to be constantly obsessed with doing everything as if you are the solo support on the team. And, in lower elos, it can be very easy to lose faith in your other support. But this, my friend, is your duo. You can comm with them to make sure they have heals. Trust them to do what they need to do to heal the DPS. Have them call for help or healing if need be. In a situation with a Mercy, you are responsible for your tank’s heals. It’s hard not to constantly micromanage because, especially if you play other supports, it can be easy to get addicted to the endorsements you get from healing everyone. If you’re going to play Moira past Gold, or even efficiently in Gold and beyond, you’re going to need to DPS more and get aggressive, and people are not going to like that. Get used to being hated. Embrace it. Take pride in being annoying to everyone around you. Also, if one solo ult is all it takes to be called a “tiktok Moira” these days, then I guess I’m that times 1000 lol.

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Is very much a metal game. Everyone in the open, shooting at different things, the supports flying around focusing the wrong things, dps on the ground, in the open and blowing up, tank is sitting in the open and focusing the enemy tank too much, a lot of flanking dps who could be dealt with by positioning smarter.

I swear mercy is moiras egirl for how often moira looked back at her unnecessarily

I think theyre concerned about their backline because of the flanking Sombra, Echo, and Zen. I appreciate that they are helping the backline, but the tunnel vision once they do is the problem, because they dont need to spend that much time on it because then yes, who is helping the tank? They look like they dont know what to focus on and are trying to do everything... but in Bronze, sometimes you do have to do everything.

The enemy Zen was an absolute treat... the Ults were so interesting too.

Is that mercy scared of blue beam ?

this was more painful to watch than some bronze 3 games

Bro as a masters Moira seeing them just waste orb cooldown over and over and over then fading into danger multiple times made me wanna cry. And all while wearing the skin I can’t afford😂😭

The tank throwing a fit in the corner at the end on round 3 was kind of hilarious. As a tank main I couldn't imagine doing this

Exact reason why i play LW. I can let my tank play agro while keeping a charged heal blossom in the chamber while i scan my surroundings.

No mention of the dps losing like 80% of their duels though? It was a huge team diff I think. Hell the tank surviving as long as they did makes me think they were probably the best player on the team, but as usual, ego makes any kind of skill worthless.

I feel like flaming anyone on your team is one of the worst mistakes in this game and almost guarantees a loss. The focus then becomes arguing, typing, inting, etc. If you ask nicely (for swap, play style change, suggestions, etc.) and nothing changes, then it’s up to you to adjust your own play style. Flaming = hard throwing.

Their biggest problem is just simping too hard for the mercy, she'll be fine, she can fly out if she's decent. Focus on the entire team, not just your duo.

hi, I'm the moira! ty for reviewing my gameplay emongg, i gained some useful insight. i was definitely paying too much attention to my friend, and someone on stream said i was healing the mercy more than the tank which kinda hurts but true! it just rlly pains me to leave them when i know there's a sombra in the backline and danger may befall them :'> i just wanna say that for the record, i was not trying to heal the enemy rein in the sigma ult, i acc sent out the wrong orb and then you can clearly see at 4:04 i faded in front of my duo who was on crit, and turned around to try and heal her tho she already flew away TT but yes, i should have gone in with my tank more & trusted mercy n the dps to deal with the flankers themselves. I've been trying to get better at keeping myself alive as a support, and it's honestly just so hard to stay in a spot that is useful without immediately getting rolled, esp with an aggressive tank like that, so i didn't know where i was supposed to go in a lot of situations that wouldn't end in me getting killed. I'm having a lot of fun playing ow tho and hopefully I'll get better over time also, flame me and my gameplay all you want but leave my duo alone they are perfect and did nothing wrong!!! >:(

Not gonna lie. Once you realized the play styles, you told the same story over and over again and just reworded it a little each time 😂😂 I’m cracking up cuz I’m curious how many more times he gonna repeat it lol. Emongg I love the monologuing 😂😂. We get it passive support aggressive tank 😂

The moira using heal orbs on full HP teammates is killing me

As a support main, I’d say this was on the supports, except for the few times the tank over extended. (that’s until they straight up afk ofc) Yes, it’s different play style, but as a support, you should be the one to adjust and balance between the 2 styles. That’s y the role is called “support.” You do everything in your ability to help your team. Worrying and peeling for your backline is good, but forgetting about your frontline while doing so is your fault.

You know the ranked system is broken because this guy made it to silver lol

my first piece of advice for this Moira is to play with their sensitivity settings. they are incredibly slow to turn around and react to things, and its not always that they dont notice something. when they do notice something, it looks like they need to move their mouse twice in order to do a 180. or, if you have the ability, adjust your gaming space so you have more room to move your arm. either way, you need to change something so you can turn around and actually react in time. second, it's good to be aware of your second support, but you have other things to do too. Mercy not only has the support passive but her own passive too - sympathetic recovery. Mercy will heal 25% of the healing they do to an injured ally. so if your Mercy is safe behind cover, don't worry about them. part of learning to play Mercy is learning to play safely so you dont need so many team resources. i think this shows one of the downsides to queuing with people. there is a tendency to focus waaaaay too much on your friends, to an extent that you end up making bad plays in order to keep them alive. if they are mature people, they wont hold it against you if you have to let them die and they will take responsibility for their own gameplay. if they get mad at you, you should probably sit down with them and have a talk OR, if youre not close, maybe consider only queuing with them in quick play. also, don't use your orbs to try and make up for your mistakes. orbs are good for damage and getting juice back or burst healing or AOE healing for multiple people. if you're paying attention and positioned well, you won't panic and overuse your cooldowns and youll begin to understand when you need to orb and when your primary healing is enough for the job also, don't worry so much about the flanking Moira. worry about making sure none of your teammates are low. a flanking Moira in your rank is only going to get the value you allow them to. choosing to be distracted by them when realistically there's nothing for them to gain by flanking is giving them value. attention and time are resources in OW, just like cool downs and ultimates. you need to use all resources wisely. good positioning will make the game easier for you. positioning is how we as supports keep ourselves safe. it's also how we reduce our panic and nerves. if you're safe, that's one less thing to worry about. saving your fade to escape means you won't freak out about someone flanking because you have already made a plan to deal with danger, you saved your fade and you can use it to get to safety. you can do the same thing with your healing orb, you can save it for yourself so you don't need to worry about the random Moira and can stay focused on your team because your orb will heal the damage. this isn't to say ignore flankers completely, but you dont need to take the 1v1 when your team needs you. succ them a bit, then turn back to your team. think about it this way, if you can't confirm the elimination in 3-4 seconds during an active team fight, then you need to look back at your team and see if they need you. dont tunnel vision. keep your head on a swivel. the more information you have, the better positioned you will be to make good decisions. consider not holding down left click so much. don't spray and pray your healing will hit someone - that's a guaranteed way to waste your resources. position yourself behind your team so you don't need to spin around healing. you will save so much juice and be able to heal people throughout tough fights if you do this. before you use fade, ask yourself: do i NEED fade? at 15:48 ish you fade away from an enemy when you could have just walked back through the door way and saved the cool down 16:28 ish you didn't need to orb your mercy and ended up wasting it. Mercy wasn't taking much damage, if any. try to be more mindful about your orbs. the cooldown isnt insanely long, but if you don't have it when you need it, it can be disastrous and that cool down time will feel like it takes a year and a half. 16:58 when you use fade, use it to get to SAFETY. don't use it just to get away from the immediate threat. you faded from enemy soldier....... right into the middle of the enemy team lol i think it would have been better to fade back towards the doorway that goes to your spawn and go up into the hallway and heal from the window. 17:10 I get you wanted to do damage to the reaper, but using it on only one person when another team fight is about to start isn't the best move. you could have used it on the entire enemy team and gotten a chunk of ult charge. instead, you used a cooldown and didn't get anything in return. 18:06 dealing with an ulting soldier is not your job. you will not win that 1v1 unless they're literally 1hp and you're full. don't go for this. just don't. go for cover, save yourself because if you try to save someone who is out in the open and put yourself out in the open, neither of you are going to survive that. it's better that your team is down 1-2 than 2-3 people. 21:19 okay i feel like an issue you might have is you don't understand the reach of Moira's healing. the healing is as long as Mercy's beam length (15m). so if you could heal someone as Mercy, you can heal them as Moira. go into the practice range and practice healing the bots taking damage and slowly back up until you notice your healing is no longer reaching them. i promise this will help. you currently overestimate how far moira's healing goes and end up wasting quite a bit. this will help with that. another issue i see is that you never have a plan for falling back. you fall back into very random places instead of falling back to safety. on this point, you want to fall back towards the mega health pack. there is good cover on that side and will put you closer to respawning teammates and out of enemy LOS. remember: you need to escape to SAFETY, not just escape from an immediate threat. honestly, something that helped me years ago was exploring the maps and identifying good spots for cover and positioning and also, when i watch highly ranked players, i watch where they position and ask myself why they position there. that will help you learn how to position instead of just memorizing where you see other people stand.

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No way these comments are this one-sided. I think it’s fair to say that this Moira was overprotective of their support, but I think it’s also fair to say that the tank didn’t turn around A SINGLE TIME to address that his back line was getting flanked the entire game. Their DPS ran amok the entire game on the supports without the tank batting an eye or at least wondering why his supports are dead every fight. I would honestly blame the tank for having zero awareness of what’s going on behind him just as much as I would blame this Moira. At around 19:37 the solider and reaper run down on half the team without the Orisa responding even a little bit and that was the story of this entire game. Like there was definitely a bunch of questionable decisions made by the Moira, but how do you not notice that your team is being flanked for a whole game?! As a tank player, this could not be happening to my team, and as a support player, I would hate to have this as a tank.

These videos are actually helpful lol

throwing the healing orb (and missing) at the mercy who was safe in the back line and missing just like 20 health irked me beyond belief

One of the main issues I saw as a GM moira was using right and left click at the wrong times. Healing when nobody is in range or when they see an enemy and not using dmg when they should. Orb usage was also off, healing orb when the team is full hp and not using dmg orb nearly enough. There was no dva which is perfect for moira since the dva can’t eat the orb, throw tht sh*t as soon as u get it and try and throw it at angles you know will ricochet in ways tht u want it (not saying you need a masters in geometry but most angles are pretty ez to guess). Tank placement was incredibly bad so that isn’t always your fault but playing moira properly can snag 1-2 kills when they commit super hard to get tht out of place tank. Also, start to do movement when your dmging so you aren’t an easy target and practice shading in more way thn going head in or behind cover, use it in less predictable ways (never use shade to go in to ult, you should always have shade wen you use coal so you can dodge cc or use it to get some range when you are low). Moira is a fairly low skill character tht, if played properly can be a menace to the other team. The other team also wasn’t really playing a good comp for a moira, try to play ana into tht so you can anti the tank/reaper and have more heals on your tank from range when they overextend.

Man that sweet sweet lobster 5 gameplay

Getting a support duo like this would drive me insane. Their team is playing 3v5 every fight

it's always amazing how moira players still find a way to miss shots

Idk who needs to hear this but MOIRA CAN NOT DAMAGE SOMBRA OUT OF INVIS UNLESS SHE BRUSHES AGAINST YOU

Dumb question but was wondering how to get a game reviewed by you, I'm newish to the game been only playing since the last week or so of season 4 or 5, was hard stuck in bronze for awhile finally made gold 2 as support still silver in tank and DPS, just trying to improve and get better

Ok, who flipped the mouse button settings for the Moira... Very funny guys.

They fully heal someone, they then throw a healing orb. That's most of my issue, throw the damage orb when people are healed, put pressure on them, gain ult charge and refill the heal energy

This guy is the definition of Trash Healing, only heals his teammates when they're missing like 5hp instead of healing the targets that are critical.

I saw that healing orb and damage orb come out every time right after someone died lol

6:42 So true. The experience of playing tank right now.

:v The funny thing I saw within this game is: *"Fighting in the same spot, and not using/getting around the other hallways available to make the enemy team divide and then conquer them"*

these healing orbs bothered me more than anything else

Do you have a channel for any other games?

My god I've never seen soneone miss with Moira succ until now lmfao

Honestly the play seems very on-brand for where they are on the ladder. I don't see a single person in this lobby that looks like they're higher or lower than Silver 5. That tank needs to go play QP though if he's going to be throwing comp matches because he's so triggered he can't play the game.

He is Sigm on Havana first point defense and he is playing close?!?! Sigma benefits from range. Havana close hold is viable in some situations, but it's prefered to hold far and combined with the fact that he is Sigma I just don't understand the thinking here. The rest of the team probably just thought he was going up to say "hi" to the enemy team before backing up because it makes no sense for Sigma to hold close here.

What I will say is that she's playing heal Moira instead of dps Moira at the start of the fight. When I'm Bap I still expect my DMG and Tank to do their jobs. I'm just supplementing dmg as I go. Now my cheeks would've been on the point or shooting SOMEBODY if the point is stuck. BUT cuz she's main healer in this match I can see her staying safe.

Why does every Moira player always seem like they're in an alternate dimension playing their own game? 30 seconds in and I feel like Im watching the offspring of Helen Keller and Ray Charles.

No matter the role if you don't expect or see your teammate vibing off your playstyle then you have to adapt to theirs. That's kinda why my 1st support I mained was Baptise. Had to learn to aim but not too much. I now play 4 supports, 4 damagers and 2 tanks to support different playstyles and when someone picks someone I wanted to play as. Aggressive tanks that want to cross the map like a Reaper? Zenny. Tanks that stay with the team? Baptise. Teams that just need a cart? Lucio. All around option/don't have to focus on dmg? Lifeweaver. Ramattra??? Zenny. hehe.

As a LW main I tug on that collar and say "heel" XD

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They are using fade much much too late it seems and theyd benefit from learning the strong pieces of cover and fading around those

moira and mercy are my main healers and I'm trying my hardest to try to flit between all of the others healing as much as possible I don't believe i focus on the back lines or front it's more of a try to heal everyone at once and only focus intently on (as in focusing only on one or two of them) when we're in a chock point and it usually works out pretty good for me most of the time but I'm a highish bronze to low silver so I'm a master at the game or anything and normally play casual

I swear I’ve gotten this duo on my team before except their friend went doom on a non doom map

When they popped an healing orb at a almost full hp soldier and a MERCY that was already healing him??😭😭😭 13:40

Really feel for the tanks that queue into a bronze Moira Mercy support duo

10:12 gets low, decides to use fade to get out. But fades right in front of the enemy team....

4 minutes in, gave the floor some lemonade, seemed thirsty

He’s so confused lol low levels are so funny

Kinda weird how they wouldn't go into the enemy spawn w their tank but did for their mercy..😂

as someone who plays Moira. they are all over the place and feels like they are too worried about their due.

I honestly only read the title and thought this was a spilo video 😂

So many damage orb opportunities that would’ve turned fights

They get so lost in the sauce that they can't track their teammates.

At 7:00 they edit the video to make Moria agree with what Emongg was rambling on about lol.

5:23 never 1v1 zen and walk in the straight line, you'll die in 0.5 second

Scrimblo is a pretty good name

It feels like he just grab his first controller in his life, turning the cam very slow, constantly mess up the buttons for healing/damage orb, had to process what button to press in brain led to really slow reaction time. And beside bad decision, I think he's trying to do everything with his slow action. See A, turn to A, start to do A, saw B half way through A, turn to B, start to do B, see C, and so on.

15:45 Typical Silver gameplay, everyone is running all over and you've no idea what is going on.

korean silver moira here 1) i would not choose moira on this map on attack side especially if my team wont push that cart past that sniper balcony; 2) their mercy was healbotting the whole time i would not worry about micromanaging my heals and focus on my tank and help peeling; 3) in my games i use mostly damage orbs to charge my ult, finish low hp enemies and recharge my heals, while using my healing hand to, well, heal my tank; 4) need to learn to manage fade cd to use it to get out of bad positioning, to escape from enemy and to help team when needed; 5) i would ignore sombra most of the time, if she's not good (its low silver lobby) she's not gonna kill u, just heal urself with orb, help other support and mind ur business. overall this lobby is so lost💀

This was just a rough game. I don't agree with Emongg about the support needing to play aggro to match the tank, but instead, just be more aware. 2 ppl feeding isn't going to fix anything.

Worst Moira lol. Healing the air 60% of the time, healing full HP alies 30% of the time, looking at the tank 10% of the time. 😂

I wonder if this Moira would have worried so much about the Mercy if it wouldn't have been their duo. Sometimes you end up focusing too much on the person you're in a duo with and I wonder if that's the case here too. Would be interesting to know if that's their playstyle no matter solo or duo. Either way, as Moira, please stick with your tank if possible/not in a feeding position. And I'd really appreciate it if chat would stop the console shaming. It's getting really annoying by now.

This vod hurts me so much. I think the comments have me covered with flaming, but please don't waste that amount of heals... you're a 'healing' Moira that's a commodity, I could only dream of that on my team

imma be honest the tank is dead 90% of the game, and you have either the enemy moira, reaper or soldier in your back like most of the time atleast 2 of them. what are you supposed to do there, die by getting shot in the back, or go to the back line and kill the people shooting you in the back. bc while the tank is dead you have soldier and bastion trying to kill the tank getting pocketed by mercy so it up to you and/or your other support to kill the dps in your back line

They could've gone with a 2:3 assault on Defense. 1 sup + tank spawn camp while the Mercy keeps the DMGers alive.

I ran into duo supports that play like this, most of the time we lose if i dont switch to their playstyle. Or if im facing a 4-5stack. My rank diamond 2

This gotta be a troll. 😂

theres so much going on, horrible positioning, constantly wasting orbs/heals on air or full hp team mates, the mercy always being out in the open and making stupid life choices , way too risky of resses, bastion trying to tank, and more like damn..

it's frustrating watching them try to heal from so far away. 😭 like I used to make tht mistake too as moira so I get it but omgggg

It looked as if someone sounded the panic bell throughout the entire match. It was just too painful to watch.

Wish we could see theur stats

This.. uh.. definitely a low elo game. Zero blue beam mercy, healing a -5hp teammate while tank is crit. I read the moiras comment on here, and they said to leave the duo alone but truth is youre going to fall or stay in silver 5 unless you BOTH get better, or learn that qp/arcade is where you can duo. A tip I can give is learn to bounce your orbs for maximum value, especially healing orb. Moira can pump out massive heals, learn to stay with your tank and occasionally check backlines/help but if you gotta hold the mercys hand the whole game then idk what to tell you...

I find it odd that the game shows your own team in red. Everywhere else in gaming, the enemy is in red.

i dont think the supports played terrible, but Mercy Moira is an unoptimal duo. not impossible to make work but hard to work.

I was in a team on quick play playing on Rialto (pushing the payload while I was playing tank) a few days ago. Had an Ana, Mercy, Soldier and Junk Rat on my team since I was playing Junker Queen. Nobody and I mean NOBODY tried to help me in any shape or form. Ana or Mercy didn't try to heal, damages wasn't helping by assisting me with Hog or at least targeting someone so it was basically a 1v5. All my deaths constantly came from enemy Hog throwing me off the bridge. On the enemy team I remembered Hog, Bap, Widow and I think Pharah. The tanks in my rotation was Ram and Rein as backups. Soon as the game was about to end, our Ana said "Hog is better". I wanted to snap so badly during the game so yeah. I kept my attitude in check and logged off to relax my head

the worst orbs I have ever seen as a bronze 1 support (peek silver 5)

SO, SYNERGY

You may have the most heals (easy to do as moira), but you weren't healing when it really mattered.

Love how this was supposed to be their attempt to get mercy out of bronze when they’re clearly in no position to do any sort of ‘carrying’ especially on support…. At this point the only way for mercy to get out of bronze is to learn about positioning and survivability because if you’re dying that much on mercy and needing your other support to baby you……….yeah it’s not good

ALRIGHT SO.

12:14 seriously what did he say?

This is Silver and the Ana from yesterday's video was Bronze? Life is unfair...

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i want you to spectate the way i play bc i want to get back to plat

What annoys me the most… I’m in bronze one and I play a Moria a lot better then this 🥹 like 15k+ heals and good amount of kills, yet I’m hard stuck bronze because of my teammates… and since I’m Moria, I get flamed for dpsing when our dps is feeding with a 8-14 KD

WHY IS MERCY IN FRONT OF THE DPS 😭

tanks should realize. if youre not playing rogue dps moira or lucio, youre doing it wrong