Did Velma season 2 get any better? 

Why do people hate Scrappy Doo? Seriously, just make him a cute puppy. We love puppies. Paw Patrol is a thing.

I'm not a goblin.

​@@katherinealvarez9216my opinion is based entirely off the live action movie and he's just a bit of a douche

f**ked up fact. This is not actually season two, but part 2 of season one. why did WB do this? because they would have to pay the animators more money if they made 2 seasons, so they paid for them to make one season and split it into 2.

By the way that's not toxic that's realistic. Course I'm sure reality offends you.

It's just a tv show it isnt the end of the world

I still don't believe hate watching giving more seasons is a thing

@@leavemealone802eh it’s part of it since numbers are part of it

Views means that they get funding​@@leavemealone802

It's not the sole reason why it happens but it definitely does play a part especially when all the executives see is it getting high viewership which hate watching plays a role in.​@@leavemealone802

The really confusing thing about it is, "R-Rated" Scooby Doo really seems to contradict the other premise of the show, which is "An origin story for Mystery Incorporated". It's REALLY bad how so much violence and sexualisation happens in a show about underaged teens. And by the end of the first season, I really struggle to see how they could POSSIBLY become a team after this. If they wanted to do R-Rated Scooby Doo, they should have had the characters be adults, and have them solving murder mysteries around the country, themed around costumed villains. Exploring concepts of race and sexuality in that format could also prove to be interesting: I have no problem with the idea of Shaggy, Daphne, and Velma being different races to the original (No problem with Fred either, but as far as I know, his race hasn't been changed in Velma). I also have no problem with Velma exploring her sexuality. The issue is, the show really doesn't seem to care about doing these elements well. And if they wanted to focus more on the "origin story" element, they really shouldn't have made it an R-Rated show. Origin stories have been done with the Scooby Doo series before, but it feels really weird to have an R-Rated origin story that doesn't seem to fit with ANY Scooby Doo show we've seen before, and seems dead-set on sexualising teens. But, alas, no matter how much I talk about it, it's not gonna change the harsh reality that Velma doesn't REALLY exist because people were really passionate for Scooby Doo. It seems to exist solely to generate controversy and doesn't seem to care about the franchise it's a part of.

The reason could anything from the classic mark miller/Garth Ennis idea of a hater of something making a form of that something loved just to show it’s fans how lame it is in the creators eyes and hoping they’ll find it just as lame or their doing content farm style in which their using the clout of the Scooby doo I.P. To attract attention to what is basically their Mary sue story

Venture Bros managed to find its wild identity within the first season. We learned so much about every character, goodies or baddies. Sometimes they even have to work together, because something from the past brings them together. There are actual character arcs that connect through each season But Velma. Um. Why? How does this keep going? All I have seen is a trailer, and I feel sick

R rated Scooby could be awesome. But this shit isn’t it. I’ll ask again, WHY ARE SHAGGY AND VELMA BLACK!?

@@KegOfMeat Shaggy and Velma's race have nothing to do with it. Begone with this racism.

Even the live action Scooby Doo from 20 years ago featured Scrappy as the roided-out villain-in a much subtler critique of the way audiences hated the character

Would love to see them apology adapt this into a movie or something

I thought they kinda did that in the life-action movie too (Also hey, nice to see someone else knowing about Scooby Apocalypse. I remember reading them since my dad gave them to my older sister for her birthday when I was younger)

No way, it’s the DCAU RU-vid channel, Watchtower Database!

The gods

It should just end here.

The series has redeemed himself. He will be popular

Same.

Same

Same

I'd join in a heartbeat, i didn't even like the villain reveal in the movie.

Same

Well, Stollen Fun Story Beats do give off a Good Impression sometimes until you see past the BS. 🐂 💩

Exactly! We basically need a less censored, slightly darker Mystery Incorporated. We've already seen a more serious Scooby-Doo show work, it just needs the right team behind it.

Even the two live action films asked "what if the worst monsters, are the ones not wearing suits?" You see how everything changes, tone, atmosphere, environment, and expression. If a mature based Mystery Inc took a deep dive, it doesn't have to be snarky or lame. Maybe explore stories about the baddies they put away, some break out, and things get dark when people go missing, eventually one of the gang winds up in the middle.. Instead of whatever Velma series is. 🤔

When the show is being genuine, its actually quite good. But then it ruins everything

thanks for clarifying

Yes sir!👍

No promises

No “Gobble gobble gobble!” ?

it's gobbling time ! - Green Goblin

What if I like being a little goblin?

its to meet dei quota guidelines

Just like big mouth

capitalism

Psych literally is adult scooby doo. I would love something like that but im not sure it will happen.

Smearing an actual good detective show with this random children's IP, could never be an adult-oriented decision. Except by stretching "adult" wider that the defintion of "gender" in US neologisms, and the childish rebellion AGAINST those neologisms.

Scrappy getting to kill this version of Velma is the most respect he's ever gotten.

Isn't scrappy in this show now, without scooby?

I want to meet these people so I can try to understand their world

who are these people and what do they do to enjoy this cause...with all my scooby doo loving heart, I CANNOT.

What? You mean I am not the only person who liked it? It honestly feels like I am the only human being on the entire world who enjoyed it.

@@Moundshroud. Can I ask why?

I wish I would’ve loved the show, but I honestly just have it on as background noise cause if I start paying attention it just upsets me lmao I don’t know why people like the show

Yeah that note in Fant4stic was.. I'm not sure why they went so dark But it could be because of something in Ultimate, since those comics did go more moody, mature, and dark as well Note: Ultimates has been rebooted. Fant4stic was based on the earlier series of comics

Just reminded me of the NBC miniseries about the 60s. Jerry O'Connell's character gets drafted and comes back addicted to pot and joins an anti-war protest.

Word.

Could've literally just married him off to some ambitious gold digger and trained them to manipulate him into making good business decisions. Or adopted some other kid then arrange an "accident" for Fred. There are so many easier ways she could've solved the problem.

To be fair, villains choosing to pursue overcomplicated solutions to their problems is a staple of the Scooby-Doo franchise.

Are you gonna cry when that show doesnt live up to your standards too?

I'm not sure why they still make this, warner bros is allergic to money I forgot actually

Yes. This is why I'll always argue that shows like Gumball and SpongeBob are actually more adult than something like Family Guy.

Then theres helluva boss which draws you in with the swearing and violence and then it breaks your heart with emotional falcon punches And has a musical number in every episode

And people wonder why anime kills American animation in the popularity. It has genres! We get like one Invincible a decade out of American animation!

I think despite stuff like the Simpsons animation is still seen as being most for kids so the "adult" shows try and be kid unfriendly. The end result is usually quite immature, it's like a young teens idea of what mature is, all swearing and mentioning sex with no actual depth. The end result is many "children's" shows are actually far more intelligent and deal with more mature themes.

I hate the fact that it’s the only other joke the franchise can tell anymore.

I used to like Scrappy as a kid too.

Does Mystery Incorporated not already prove that though? So, no pressure to prove something, make a queer Scooby-Doo fanfic as a passion project

@@relic5752 I have a few notes with Mystery Inc. Regardless, I feel like that show is more about the overarching and paranormal stories with shipping sprinkled in. I'm thinking more of mystery of the week with queer themes. I'm still not sure what the overarching mystery is going to be. But I don't want it to be actual paranormal stuff.

Oh, no, Top Cat's great. Even I like Top Cat. And I'm not American.

I heard that there was only one season made by the team and WB split it into 2.

The show was picked up for 20 episodes from the jump. There was no time to "take feedback" since S2 was already in production.

@@GarLogan78 lord. And they drop all the episodes at once? Man, this model of production really leaves no room for improvement

@@katherinealvarez9216 I mean, the people who approved the project were probably hoping for something good. Just for whatever reason, the writers, producers, Mindy, etc really just opted to fart their way through it. I would be so interested in a behind the scenes for this show.

@@lyndsaybrown8471 me too, I always like watching those making of or BTS features and even though those are all polished, they're cool to see and learn how a film or show is made

True. True.

I agree with the general sentiment of not hate watching, but animated properties tend to be greenlit for 2 seasons anyway, since animation takes time, and the team needs to be pretty far ahead to stay ahead of airdates without delays.

The thing with critics is is that they make money off of being critics. It's not a hobby, that era of the internet is dead. It's pure profit motive. Hatewatching is required to make money-generating content.

Poor Glen Howerton too.

absolutely no one on earth could come out of watching venture bros and still be as unfunny as the writers of velma my dude.

Also it's way more likely the show was initially contracted for 2 seasons than it was hate watched so hard it got a season 2

@@metaforth1271 It's two half-series, from what I understand.

I'm part hobbit part hoka, part human. I'm the result of a genetics experiment gone wrong. I don't mind some tech, but I like it old school by 2024 standards. I like things cuddly and goofy and unpredictable. But I've also got morals. Ok, I'm not really a mistake. But I am on the early leading edge of what's called Generation x. I was born in 1968 , 1 year before o g. Scooby Doo and o.g. sesame Street started. I don't like haters messing with them.

And then he gobbed all over them

Me when I gobble:

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