It negatively affected Zombies A LOT… We’ve been stuck with a bunch of Warzone-adjacent mechanics and a lot of assets from it thrown into Zombies (like the entire MWIII Zombies Map)
@@chrisupton6190 I don’t think MWZ is inherently a bad mode, but I think it just completely lacks the soul of Zombies and doesn’t have much replay-value. It’s basically just a mindless grind machine and once you finish the missions and get the schematics (which is a repetitive and RNG-filled grind), there’s really not much else driving me to want to play more 🤷🏻♂️ Obviously Vanguard isn’t good either, but I believe Warzone affected all of these modes more than we realize. Cold War Zombies did it the best but still has tons of issues, and most of those issues also go back to Warzone’s existence (and lack of resources put into Zombies)
I feel like streamers ruined CoD Cheaters and hackers in the twitch and RU-vid community have ruined the game They have influenced people to do whatever it takes to win and those wins came via hacks and cheats And those are the people who have turned the game into something that's not fun at all I don't purchase bundles on the game except on warzone 2 I purchased the OG Ghost operator because it's the best character ever Even though he died in WW2 2009 he's still the coolest I don't like the direction CoD is going and I feel like this current title is going to be the last one I play Can't wait for XDEFIANT to get released
@@DTOWNRW16xdefiant is open about their matchmaking and will probably actively adjust it. Yes it will be sweaty but they’ve been open about the process which is way more genuine then anything activision has done in the last 2 decades
In Cod4 someone did a Kill Count of all their Kills and Said they( Soap) killed 857 Ultranationlists and their Leader and In Usmc Missions Sgt Paul Jackson Killed 418 Arabian Soldiers.
I think that Fortnite just honestly does the battle Royale genre better. I mean They have cool skins that you will actually see because the game is in the third person and It doesn’t make Sense Having Unique skins in call of duty since the game Takes place in the first person, so you’ll Never see it and only the people that kill you will think “oh he actually bought that skin”. The worst part about Cod trying to have cosmetic is that they eventually become useless like for example in Mw19 and Cold War They aren’t even update Anymore so it feels like you wasted your money. Fortnite never goes to a new game and stays at that game so you keep all your cosmetics Making buying them actually worth it. (And I’m not trying to be bias Fortnite is just better) Also if MWll was supposed to be a “Realistic War experience” how tf did we end up at season 6 With Nicki Minaj and Snoop dog running around in shipment? Sorry for writing an essay lol
i don’t think Warzone is necessarily bad itself, but it definitely took attention away from what’s supposed to be main call of duty modes. it made me less into main modes for a while ngl
Just because one turned out bad doesn't mean that the worse version is suddenly better. That's why no one takes the cod community seriously, you just go from one extreme to another.
Like in Ghosts, BO3, WWII, Infinite Warfare? Nah, COD has been atrocious since Black Ops 2. Warzone didn't change anything, it was just a fun game mode during Covid Lockdowns
@@qg1235warzone 200% changed cod MW3 is essentially just warzone its in zombies now and even the campaign bo3 and IW weren’t even bad Cods community just had a hate boner for cod lol
@@qg1235what are you smoking hahahaha WW2 BO3 were proper cod games that were super fun and felt like cod. But your saying there atrocious looool even infinite warfare which isn’t great is still better than anything past 2019
Me and my mates used to play dom/hard point on MW2019 - was awesome. Things turned sour when WZ came out. Some of the crew got way too sweaty orientated, only played shipment to level new guns. Group fell apart and no one plays together anymore. WZ ruined more than just CoD.
If warzone was its own separated standalone game, it would fix so many issues Guns, balancing, skins, shitty menu/ui, etc... OH AND DISK SPACE. yea we can do the modify install but still bs
It would be a lot better if you could just unlock the stuff in there whenever you want, instead of the small window they give you each season. On the other hand, I like that it’s basically free as long as you complete it and earn your cod points back. Blackcell is cool but not 100% necessary.
There are actually a lot of indie games that have saved gaming for me like signalis, gaming as whole isn't dead but currently we're at a point where the FPS genre doesn't know what to do or where to go
@@NicoPezzotti712 I woudnt call cod a casual game past 2019. Bro have you fucking played it at all within the last 4 years? It’s the FURTHEST thing from a causal game. The SBMM prevents it from being a casual game.
@@nhilist5774 You guys calling cod a casual game cracks me up when there’s literally only two modes. SBMM riddled MP or ranked play. It’s the furthest thing from a casual game. But Ight.
@@thevillain4385this is sorta why i stuck to cod ww2 lmao. I mean yeah, cold war and stuff is fun (Not MWII.V), but the SBMM just ruins the whole experience
I think it both ruined and helped COD. It ruined in the sense it was over used to much causing cod to lose its identity as an action packed close shooter game. It benefited them in that it attracted news audiences to cod which in turn help CoD gain more popularity with more people.
Maybe if we just stuck to the first couple months of mw2019 and kept bettering it from there instead of combining it w Cold War and vanguard, honestly would have been an amazing game I’d play for a while.
Trouble is, it looks to me as if you don't like/aren't interested in Warzone, then COD feels more like table scraps. I do hate how they're tying plot critical narratives into Warzone, "Oh what's that, you want to know this character is alive but didn't play Season 5? Lol 2 bad idiot, we're not explaining!" - A good story should be able to stand up on it's own, not leave people in the dark because they missed a side piece. I feel the best way to sum up is that swimming pool meme, Warzone is the child being looked after, Multiplayer is the drowning child, Campaign is the drowned skeleton.
Most of these didn't really bother me except the whole taking a section of the Warzone map and turning into a MP map. If I remember correctly, a lot of the launch maps for MW2 were just sections of the Warzone map, then most of the seasonal maps were as well, and it just made me so mad how lazy they were. I would rather play remastered OG maps then that. I'm glad this changed for MW3. It feels like Sledgehammer has been doing things well with how they've handled MW3 thus far.
Kinda wish they just stuck with MW19's tracers being mostly single colors with occasional death fx in obviously silly bundles. I don't think III+II even has normal single-color tracers except for the long-gone soccer legends bundles, iirc those had simple tracers.
Said it from the start and still think it, Warzone should have been a standalone game. It was because of the same fate of MWR & IW, people played MWR more so they was in competition against themselves. Blackout I preferred and still do.
What I don’t get about the Store is that why don’t people just NOT buy anything? Do people feel like if they do not buy 24$ bundles they will be shamed for not having it like other people do? Or feel like they are missing out? The Store was atrocious and then when the DMZ bundles first came out last year I was really pissed off. And people are continuously buying all the bundles up. Everyone I see in my lobbies has all the new and old bundles. They could pay my mortgage payment with how much they’ve spent on bundles. COD is horrible.
It's not about just not buying it, it's the premise of it. We want things to be unlockable not just shoved behind a paywall. I hate the bundles they have, I want simple military style cosmetics not this cringe virgin shit, but I would rather get all these flashy skins unlockable via challenges or even in the free battle pass, not locked behind $20 bundles. I want Cod to have progression, to have things worth playing the game for, if there isn't anything to unlock by simply playing the game it devalues the entire game. Look at what Cod used to be, even supply drops were a more fair system cause you didn't have to spend a single cent and could have the same shit as anyone else.
COD will never be the same. I been going back playing all the older ones. Like older older ones, like BO1/2, MW2/3, COD 4, and so on. I did love Warzone but i quit after the 1st map went away. Cheats were bad but I imagine they are way bad now. Even on PS3 BO2 is pretty much unplayable. Just people shooting randomly into the sky killing folks. Pretty sad cause I really grew up playing cod like lots of others.
The only issue Cod has is slide canceling with no restrictions, and the second one is the terrible audio there’s times where people creep up fast as hell with no sound. Then the in game lag and the cheaters. That’s really it other than the insane amount of head glitches and drop shooting
Warzone ain’t the problem. The problem is them not giving af about the actual quality of the game because they rather put out a new 1 every year. We don’t need a new game every year. We need a great game that last long till the technology improves to do better things.
I disagree warzone is a problem it isn't cods style. Warzone is a love child of fortnite cod is not It's daddy. Nothing that makes call of duty the fast paced, arena, style skill based shooter it was made it into warzone. When you play warzone you are NOT playing cod you are playing fortnite.
@@jamesmc4732 warzone is more fun. People were sold on Warzone. Every now & then people like jumping between both. Fornite is more goofy & playful. However yes now these days warzone is going downhill with the poor implementation & the need to copy instead of actually innovate.
@IcedOutkrs no it's a trend that's it we shouldn't have it in every game it's a copy and paste from another game it's garbage. Even if the majority of the people on the planet start eating shit I'm still not gonna eat shit warzone is garbage the player count can't change that. The majority players are the next generation who have been sold on this warzone garbage therefore everyone just copies them now. Games use to have variety cod was different from halo and halo was different from gears of war but very soon you guys will make sure they all play the same with you're warzone bullcrap.
@@jamesmc4732 not even. Warzone 1 was everyone’s fav. Old and new players. MW3 warzone is complete garbage that they dropped the ball on. They made one of the most fun Brs in its time that’s why it gained a lot of traction & they did it in their own way.
I hopw they fix this mess with the new premium call of duty, as you do claim there is a plan, I was a christmas newbie when i got my first call of duty, ADVANCED WARFARE and loved it so much, I do wish they focus on multiplayer more now as warzone is not fun especially with the ptw operators, its basically a fortnite clone, I mean what happened to call of duty being the gritty war/fighting experice, I do hope they bring it back, (LUV FROM YOUR BIGGEST SUPPORTER IN INDIA)
Idk about others but I had so much fun with the boys playing warzone during the quarantine and even made a couple more friends. It was a fantastic experience
Who remembers Cold wars fire team dirty bomb. Man what a time to be alive that mode was truly special I enjoyed it so much when it was thriving. Honestly I would be playing that more than I play warzone now if they hadn’t just scrapped it. Who else agrees
Yes. Because campaign and zombies are now being merged with it, and each studios universes are being blended , which ruins everything. I layed cod to rest already. Not buying another cod unless it’s advanced warfare, a future black ops game, a futuristic game, or ghosts 2. Black ops and modern warfare are done to death
I’m pretty sure years from now we will look back at modern warfare 3 and talk about how great of a game it was we always do this we always think things from the past are so great when the current product is just bad that’s just how it goes with anything though not just video games
This video is a perfect explanation of what warzone did to cod, but there is one thing I didn’t agree on in that warzone saved cod by a lot of players coming back or being introduced. Yes it made everyone play cod again but warzone really isn’t call of duty. It’s its own game and that’s why call of duty was abodoned. Cod would have had a player base even without warzone just not as many people which is honestly for the betterment of the franchise. But that’s sadly not the case
For me who actually destroyed CoD is not WZ. It was the fanbase. I can list the reason but I will only mention one. Low standard for gaming. They settle with half finish product.
PUBG has the best Battle Royale period followed by Blackout for COD. Once you're dead, you're dead. No bullshit second chances. I do agree though, feels like multiplayer has took the backseat ever since Warzone was a thing. Warzone isn't even good either. I thought Blackout was a lot better. No loadouts where everyone can use the same meta weapons. You use the weapons and attachments you find. That's how a Battle Royale should be.
Warzone 2.0 should never have existed imo. If they just separate the games (MW19 and warzone) in two applications, I think that could have ended the stability and crash problems (I’m no dev, just my opinion)❤ PD: I love ur videos, keep it up❤️
For me, what killed COD is the complete abandonment of realism. The movement has become ridiculous. Slide canceling? Bunny hopping? I've never seen a soldier slide around a corner and then slide again in less than 5 seconds. COD is fast-paced, so it doesn't bother me too much, but when they release a game where squads filled with Nicki Minaj and Homelanders are sliding around like they have wheels on their backs and call it "Modern Warfare," it gets a bit annoying.
The thing I liked about Blackout, was it just felt like an extension to MP, where as Warzone is like a whole separate client they melted into the MW19. Warzone and MW19 were developed side by side even though they didn't release together, but MW19 multiplayer would have been made with Warzone in mind, where as it was the opposite for Blackout, Blackout was made with multiplayer in mind.
When it comes to the mw2 story line for the live service. A lot of the story was sort of wrapped up in DMZ. Mainly with troops in Al mazarah, Ashika, and vondel. If you haven’t grabbed and read any of the intel that’s why you probably won’t know everything
DMZ is worse than Warzone and screw collecting 'intel' like a braindead drone. What a garbage way to experience a story. Only someone with zero self-respect would enjoy that
OG Warzone (2020-2021) brought COD back to the top of gaming. It was so much fun gaming and playing WZ during the pandemic. Then Caldera came out and killed a lot of hype then WZ2.0 killed it even more. At the same time, developers neglected MP and let it turn into a mediocre SBMM filled recycling bin. Now COD is down bad. Warzone is played out and MWIII is actually pretty decent but the SBMM makes it tough to want to play for too long
I hate Warzone because of cross-play, I’m on PS4 and I basically always fight off PC users which makes it unfair, I only get happy in MP but that was a limited time mode and I don’t own it
🤨 where? I’ll get 3 pc players in my lobby’s max. And I’m a pc player, 85% of the lobbies I’m in is controller players I’ll even see pc players using controllers singe aim assist is just way easier to abuse
Yes, yes, YES. Ruined both the 6 v 6 multiplayer and more recently LITERALLY THE CAMPAIGNS! Cod is cinematic! Turning it into Far Cry is STUPID. Far Cry not only has its own identity, but also a big reason of why those games can be 40+ hours. Because Far Cry style is done to extend play time! So using Far Cry style (weapons free) on COD and delivering a 4 or less hour campaign is nothing short of SUPER LAZY!
In a way yes but also no. Mw2019 was a horrendous multiplayer experience so in a way warzone saved many people from leaving the series myself included. That being said they have def taken resources away from MP and just put them into warzone and its clear its suffering.
War zones main problem was trying to be Fortnite, instead of building a more down to earth BR for people who don’t like the more cartoony Fortnite style
3:46 - 4:42 You said it best, that's something I really despise about the new age CoD. Warzone ruined Call of Duty for me and I have stopped playing it since the new MWIII after giving them years of chances. Great video.
Data analytics is another big problem 📊 Activision keeps saying “our data show this, and that” to justify SBMM but instead they should just LISTEN to the community👂
I thought they did bring soap from the dead because he actually talks to you in modern warfare zombies, or maybe modern warfare zombies happened before the campaign, it all doesn’t make sense
Its the same as with Madden and Fifa with ultimate team. The mode itself didnt ruin Call of Duty, but Call of Duty's SINGULAR FOCUS on the mode is what ruined it. Activision saw the giant cash cow and focused almlst exclusively on it. The game itself became designed around Warzone, and everything else suffered as a result. And now, just like with EA and Ultimate Team, Activision has now straught up built the SINGLE PLAYER MODES around Warzone too.
Warzone and gunfight definitely brought fresh air to the franchise in mw2019 imo but warzone 2 ruined it and they have had to scrape it back together smh
I'm usually just strictly multiplayer I don't even play warzone not my style. It did run it in my opinion because you would have more people and multiplayer playing multiplayer and it'll be bigger lobbies and more matchmaking. Less people playing multiplayer now😢😢😢
Great video as usual T!! I don't think that warzone necessarily ruined CoD however it does negatively impact the game greatly. I think the main thing that is ruining the game is the corporate greed. They just care about money. Just look at the recent buff to the TAQ Evolvere. It gets BROKEN right before a $20 bundle releases. The bundle goes live, then the gun is nerfed shortly after. Same with the doom shotty last year. If it wasn't for that, I feel like we could have a well rounded game if they just cared about the game and the playerbase rather than whatever microtransaction they can come up with.
What makes fornite works in terms of immersion is that it’s not only not trying to appeal to an audience that wants realism, (which is what COD has specifically done) but the cartoony style compliments and even encourages goofy crossovers. Which makes it work. It helps emphasize what the game is all about, whacky, unpredictable, goofy fun. There’s no logical consistency so it wouldn’t be odd to add Goku to the Fortnite universe. Especially when you consider that Fortnite doesn’t even take place on planet earth. Back in mW19 when it was still new, hell before it came out, during interviews you had a whole bunch of people talking about how for the first time COD was gonna take a realistic approach. We see all the mechanics of firearms and how they work as they would in real life, the bunch of different optics and rails you can attach to your rifles, then once you get the game, all of that doesn’t even matter because after a while you got these unrealistic anime operators with cat ears running around with bright colors. It doesn’t matter how realistic your game is, if you insert things that don’t match the theme, especially if it was previously advertised, you’re gonna have a divided fan base that’s gonna be pissed, and rightfully so. Let’s look at the past, COD WW2, the real one, gritty, dark, unforgiving, and a huge amount of graphic content. That’s how it was during the actual thing, war crimes, people getting their limbs blown off, it was the truest reflection of WW2 in any game up to this point and everything from the guns to the factions, it all stayed true to the real thing, that’s why it was so popular. Now? It’s a joke. Consistency is key where Fortnite has succeeded and COD has failed. Maps are aren’t the greatest for multiplayer, weapons are often unbalanced, spawns are god awful, etc. And spec ops? Doesn’t even hold a candle to the older versions, and this isn’t even nostalgia talking here, they put ZERO effort.. COD is an utter, midlife crisis mess that needs to straighten out or shut down completely. And I say this as someone who’s been playing cod for the 21 years I’ve been on this planet.
Yes. Multiplayer, Zombies, and even campaign have all seen a significant reduction in resource allocation, innovation, and quality. All for a temporary trend. They're just now seeing how much that will impact them among other practices finally souring the game's image even in the eyes of lifelong fans. They will either have to backpeddle so hard that the fans forgive them, create a new fanbase on an entirely different style of game that will have longevity, or suffer the consequences of their actions and fade into obscurity. I'm honestly just watching the whole thing unfold as an observer now and I don't really care where it goes. Been burned too many times to get back in that kitchen.
People hate change warzone and verdansk definitely elevated the game saved us during lockdown it came with alot of amazing features a brilliant map and the resurgence with an amazing remake of rebirth island. The ruined it with caldera
Love your stories, they should make rhe games seperate. Maybe chip price in half and have multi player and seperate warzone. Insteady of downloading both , where some players dont play both.
It’s good cuz it’s for free, but it in the same time Warzone said: “I’m fr cool game!” and then: wz2 came and said “nah guys the wz1 was soooo good and it was so fun now u will not get fun ever again” and then finally wz3: “I brought back everything u need!” But tbh wz3 still doesn’t fell like wz1. So I think the WZ was actually good, we got experience from every part of the WZ!
1:02 *No mixed reception for me, COD WW2 is best COD and FPS in the last 7 years* still play heavily today. The COD Community and Gaming world can try to deny it but *the game was innovative, simple, straightforward and saved COD* especially after The Overhaul Update. If you dont think so how are those Automatic AUTOMATIC disbanded lobbies, heavy SBMM, and 15+ aiming and sensitivity settings you change every week , treating you in those Modern CODs? lol.
100% Yes, zero doubt in my mind that it did. It single handedly sucked away from campaign, multiplayer, and zombies. Those modes are a shell of their former selves.
Think warzone needs his own system, with keep all the operators skins ect and build only them wich cod comes out like: modern warfare universe, black ops universe and give them also hardcore warzone mode: DMZ mode
Had they remastered MW2 multiplayer instead of the campaign, the world would’ve been a better place. But they really just need to simplify things. Quit it with the silly skins, 100s of camos, etc. I miss just grinding to get Red Tiger or Gold for each gun. Oh and no confusing gun builder. Like just give me 2 attachments max. But as far as Warzone goes, I think it did kind of put the nail in the coffin. At least the recent iterations. But I’m out of touch with CoD now really so I could be wrong.
Battlepasses actually gave more content and I enjoyed the orginal warzone map all other maps suck I wish they would just keep all warzone maps in rotation if that's what they're gonna focus on, I do like not haven pay for new zombies maps considering the new ones tend to suck and its nice not splitting the player base up but they just rehash old maps constantly so why not just make one big free to play cod and have all warzone maps all mp maps for boots on the ground then they cam sell all the cosmetics they want, but in return I want to see more exo suit cods since titan fall is dead I really enjoyed bo3/bo4 would have been better without the hero part but I'd rather deal with that then constantly get an experience that is an after thought due to warzone
I dont think so in mw2 yh but in mw3 no. when warzone was included in mw19 it save cod as you said at that time i think things were pretty balance or not but so many people weren't complaining. Mw2 yh i can say their it kinda ruined it because they were only focused br. In mw3 i feel like they are mostly focused multiplayer. Multiplayer have so many fun modes coming and going and other stuff. Look at big map its dry they gave rebirth back but keep playing it again and again get boring they need add something fun.
Yes and no. It killed what made COD, well COD. BUT It saved Cod as a franchise. Nostalgia aside, the early warzone era (MW19 and Cold War) matches the gold era of COD (MW2-BO2).
Also, streamers and camping ruined the game. Everything is meta/exploits and other feedback that causes the devs to change the game. It was simpler time before this and people played their own way and weren't playing like every match is ranked
Warzone ruined COD. Warzone is the center of COD's universe. They should just seperate the game just like the mobile games are stand alone have a dedicated developer just for Warzone and keep Infinity Ward, Treyarch and Sledgehammer making single player and multiplayer. Problem solved. I miss the perk system specially the pick 10. I miss having a variety of useful attachments not having 80 sights, 45 muzzles 30 stocks that majority are useless bloat ware in the game. The community uses probably no more than 10 percent of those attachments. I miss the simplicity that COD used to be thats why everyone loved COD it was simple easy to pick up and get in get your butt kick get good and kick some butt.
Warzone ruined everything about CoD. Mw2019, was really great until they added warzone and everything turned glitchy. The game is still glitchy and features the same warzone MP background despite it not being playable anymore.
Here’s something to think about Next years cod is set to release in October So what are they gonna do about the haunting event, is there even going to be one ?
Absolutely it does ruined the Call of Duty, I miss those strong Campaign COD's I played as a child, the most worst part, I have to download 250+GB of the game, which i don't even play.
Should have stuck to their three lanes and added more content to black Ops.. games need to be supported longer so the next game can be complete and polished on release day
