Did you Know Philadelphia has Trolleybuses (Trackless Trolleys)? (1 of 5 in the USA!) 2021

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The Philadelphia trolleybus system, or trackless trolley system as it is known by its operator, forms part of the public transportation network serving Philadelphia, in the state of Pennsylvania, United States. It opened on October 14, 1923, and is now the second-longest-lived trolleybus system in the world. One of only five such systems currently operating in the U.S., it presently comprises three lines, and is operated by the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA), with a fleet of 38 trolleybuses. The three surviving routes serve North and Northeast Philadelphia and connect with SEPTA's Market-Frankford rapid transit line.
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@danielsamuels5857 3 года назад

I used to take the 75 to my grandmother's house before she died last week. May she rest in peace.

@gens0kyo 2 года назад

RIP 🙏🏿

@amongusssundee6714 2 года назад

Rip

@Gabrielmaragh228 7 месяцев назад

Rip

@gregl1927 2 года назад

Last of 4 now. Unfortunately MBTA in Boston just got rid of their trolleybuses in a very stupid decision.

@andrewpalm2103 3 года назад

Chicago once had a large fleet of trolley busses. I consider them honorary streetcars.

@DeltaFish11 2 года назад

I want more trolleybus routes!!! Please Septa

@chrismckellar9350 3 года назад

Looking at the video, it seems the SPETA is using old OB (Ohio Brass) ridged overhead. Most Trolleybus systems are using flexi overhead systems that allows for increase speed on corners, switches and crossovers and less pole de-wirements and overhead damage.

@afcgeo882 2 года назад

Philly always buys the cheapest available.

@Cain-x 3 года назад

This would make so much sense in NYC - trolleybuses have a longer lifespan and less maintenance.

@jamesnewson9592 3 года назад

I remember them as a kid when I went to visit cousins in Brooklyn! Too bad New York replaced trolleys and trolley buses with dirty buses!

@Cain-x 3 года назад

@@jamesnewson9592 The oil and internal combustion engine lobbyists and salesmen know how to sell anything. Shame our leaders aren't very forward thinking.

@merccadoosis8847 3 года назад

@@jamesnewson9592 I remember riding them until about 1965 in the Bushwick section of Brooklyn. NYC would be so much better off if they had trolleys and trolley buses like they did in the old days.

@shanewalters2565 3 года назад

@@jamesnewson9592 On the bright side, at least our Trolleybus network is thriving compared to other countries and cities in the world that lost their Trolleybusses, take Wellington in New Zealand for example, it lasted until 2018 and got replaced by conventional busses, London in the UK also serves as another example of lost Trolleybusses, they have a hybrid bus that's trying to combat climate change, but it uses it's diesel engine all the time instead of the hybrid power it was designed for. That is what I generally love about the Trolleybus, they're much more reliable, they reduce the carbon footprint by only using a diesel engine as an emergency and they cost much less to maintain.

@jacobrozen6092 3 года назад

Exactly, it does make so much sense. Which is why it will never happen.

@robmoney4life 3 года назад

I like how Septa has variety of Transportation trolley buses, battery buses ,trolleys etc..... Don't feel like saying the rest

@jmm1233 Год назад

What an awesome trolleybus

@metrofilmer8894 3 года назад

From another one of the 5 cities with the I must say you have a nice system Philadelphia. Nice job SEPTA 👍

@johnarobinson5640 3 года назад

@Metrofilmer88 It looks nice but the people that's riding are a mixed bag out here!😆🤣 It looks like your from the sister state of N.Y If so I could imagine riding those daily!😁

@afcgeo882 2 года назад

@@johnarobinson5640 NY doesn’t have trolleybuses anywhere.

@johnarobinson5640 2 года назад

@@afcgeo882 I meant the public transportation out there

@Poisson4147 2 года назад

It's not so much "nice job" as it is "haven't gotten rid of these lines yet". Philly used to have a lot of trolleybus lines. SEPTA and its predecessor the PTC both had long-term biases in favor of diesel, partly due to NCL's running the PTC in the 1950s. Between 1955 and 1992 they ripped out dozens of streetcar lines and all but three trolleybus routes.

@FordEscape12345678 3 года назад

Yes actually, I usually make it down to Philly from Jersey City to visit family and I see these all the time.

@tbubble3703 3 года назад

I'm from Philly this nothing new, they just bringing em back..we had em back in the 90s

@scottyerkes1867 3 года назад

Thanks Tim!! Nice video. And one viewing this again I hate that incessant bus is turning#!!

@chevrolet1319 3 года назад

Are you heading back to Dayton? I really Recommend it! we have our entire fleet of NEXGENs in service. One Routes 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, & 8..... Route 1 & 7 are Dual Mode and they drop their poles for parts of the route.

@Machodave2020 3 года назад

So their pantographs are up for a little bit and then they drop down. That's neat, that's not too common.

@albertbenajam4751 3 года назад

Update. From Utuber "F" received an update indicating South Philly residential routes were to be converted to Battery is. A praticle option as full loop is short, speeds slow and narrow residential street residents wouldn't like noise and fumes. Given limited usesgr days & hours , the website of a school bus builder (Thomas) makes a case for under 50 daily use in city & suburbs school districts on its cute. But, 6am to 10 pm TRANSIT operation has, except for rush hour traffic "trippers" or short "shuttle" routes, has few limited uses for BBs.

@changeoflife3658 3 года назад

did you guys know these trolley buses runs on diesel if there is road work or a problem

@chevrolet1319 3 года назад

We have some in Dayton made by GILLIG that can last 25 Miles off wire on Battery Power and have a top speed of 50 Mph much faster than SEPTA.

@Machodave2020 3 года назад

Because it's a bus, I would expect that would run on diesel. I wouldn't expect any less. Buses are CDL (commercial) vehicles like trucks. therefore they're heavy (because commercial vehicles are heavy). So it makes sense that they would run on diesel when the pantographs are down.

@Tram-Motion 3 года назад

Nice Viedeo! SEPTA have only short Trolleybuses, no articulated Trolleybuses?

@MSRTA_Productions 3 года назад

Correct. Only have 40fters

@Machodave2020 3 года назад

@@MSRTA_Productions yeah, but they still not articulated as a matter of fact none of our new flyers are articulated. Only the Novas that we have in the city, and some if them aren't articulated either.

@BigRon.215 3 года назад

I've road on the 66 before and you was down the street from where I live at arrot transportation center

@Machodave2020 3 года назад

We don't live too fair from each other. I live near Frankford Transportation Center, just a little down the Blvd.

@merccadoosis8847 3 года назад

Nice tour - again, I wish it was a bit longer. Sorry I couldn't join you this morning as I took my second vaccine yesterday and have side effects (deep fatigue). See you again ...

@timosha21 3 года назад

Nice! Moderna or Pfizer?

@merccadoosis8847 3 года назад

@@timosha21 Moderna. I hope everyone will have access to vaccines very soon. Stay well....

@obus7800 3 года назад

Good to see a city running "GREEN" public transport. I drove trolleys for nearly a decade and a half in Hamilton (ON) before officials chose to take a long backward step and replace them with dirty diesels and costly, inefficient CNG buses. The trolleys we operated cost 1/3 of a diesel to operate and modern trolleys would have shaved a further 40% off electricity costs but politicians ALWAYS know better than to let facts get in the way of their agenda.

@ceelobrown27 3 года назад

How hard was it too make those turns and not disconnect

@obus7800 3 года назад

@@ceelobrown27 I don't know what type of shoes the trolleys are using in Philly...in Hamilton one trolley was equipped with high speed shoes and a high performance braking system before the decision to scrap the system was made. The shoes allowed you to make turns without slowing as well as shoot through switches and crossings at normal traffic speeds. As a driver when you know your route and the condition of the overhead even regular shoes present no problems with dewirements.

@chrismckellar9350 3 года назад

@@obus7800 - I agree with you.

@chrismckellar9350 3 года назад

I agree with you. I drove trolleybuses in Wellington New Zealand and were efficient due to the hilly confines and compactness of the city. Great getting up and down hills. Despite the old rigid OB overhead being replaced in the late 1980s with high speed flexi overhead, improved overhead power distribution system for regenerative braking and new electric battery trolleybuses in the early 2000's, the system was scrapped in 2017 in favour for a all diesel multi transfer hub rapid bus network that has failed. Now they are talking about battery buses which are totally useless on hills. The bureaucrats and the armchair transport experts didn't listen to the traveling public and the experts, that 6 routes of the trolleybus system could have been used in the new bus network.

@obus7800 3 года назад

@@chrismckellar9350 In 1892, Hamilton rejected battery electric trams...no one learns from history. Search Hamilton: Dewired.

@jamesfrench7299 2 года назад

The stupid conservatives in Wellington New Zealand closed their system down about a decade ago. These provide a quiet ride and a sense of permanence. Edmonton shut theirs relatively recently too. Good to see Philly do something well.

@timosha21 2 года назад

The trolleybus network in Wellington was shutdown in 2017. Sad - actually I filmed it about a month ago before it was closed down :(

@jamesfrench7299 2 года назад

This got uploaded a week ago. Sydney's Kogarah system which closed 1959. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rUyqm2LTEjc.html

@theamtrakfan568 3 года назад

Nice 👍

@k.williams9999 Год назад

Yes

@kennysbusdrawings 3 года назад

and they go way slower than the Gillig ones in king county did

@albertbenajam4751 3 года назад

Surving are North Philly lines. The major one is an extension to the Market Frankfort line that features third overhead pair to provide express. Operation by Diesel would need at least double bussed due to slow acceleration. South Phil. had a couple of interesting EastWest crosstown lines in narrow row house streets, where quit operation was a plus, now operated by smoke & noise Diesel.

@MrRonfelder 3 года назад

the rt 29 and rt 79 in south philly are to be replaced with buses that are fully electric running on batteries from what i've read. the infrastructure needs major work to have run a trackless trolley. on of the substations is no longer functional. that most certainly isn't going to be replaced

@Crotchlickmeoff 3 года назад

I used to take the 66 every weekday to go to LTI

@GalenlevyPhoto 3 года назад

Never knew Philly had them in the past. Nice to see them bring them back. I rode them many times in Seattle. San Francisco has them too. I think Dayton, Ohio has them too.

@afcgeo882 2 года назад

Philly has had them for many, many decades.

@Poisson4147 2 года назад

These lines aren't brought back, they're the survivors. Philly's had trolleybuses for a century but ripped out most of them in favor of diesel. SEPTA's predecessor was managed by NCL during the 1950s and SEPTA inherited NCL's pro-bus bias. That's starting to change but most of the damage is long done.

@zazaranger5 3 года назад

I see they finally put plastic seats in them

@kennysbusdrawings 3 года назад

honestly, I really hate the "caution bus is turning" thing, it makes me want to jump in front of the bus

@yesec9 2 года назад

also has probably saved a number of blind people (or even those with poor vision if their glasses/contacts are lost or missing, which is something that happens) from being run over by buses as well. just a thought. annoying to us with good vision...life-saving to those without.

@ilmikawish 3 года назад

Nice

@naeem9338 3 года назад

we had thoose troleybusses for a while theyare actully basicly getting taken off the route 66 the 66 only basiclt runs mainly d40s and xdes now u won't see no trolleybusses on it no more u lucky u caught some

@milesfann33 Год назад

I have a question: Are trolleybuses a pain in the a** to operate or are they easy to drive? I've always wondered from the driver's perspective what they think of the trolleybus. Seems like worrying about the de-wiring of the poles would make a driver go crazy! Especially with older trolleys that don't have the ability to operate off-wire.

@nikitostrolleybus8755 10 месяцев назад

Троллейбусами управлять не трудно. Это даже интересно. Это я вам говорю как сотрудник троллейбусного депо:)

@АндрейЗяблицкий-т9б 3 года назад

👍

@DatboiYugo 3 года назад

0:51 is that a Lancer evo or a regular Lancer with a loud exhaust?

@transitkidjasonproductions 10 месяцев назад

It sounds like vancouver

@josemessiasrosa8856 3 года назад

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

@RainbowSpinDashIsawesome 3 года назад

What happen if someone disconnect the antenna of those trolley buses?

@merccadoosis8847 3 года назад

04:03 ~ when the bus is de-wired, the operator manually reattaches the bus to the catenary (wiring)

@RainbowSpinDashIsawesome 3 года назад

@@merccadoosis8847 ok thanks for the info

@timosha21 3 года назад

Check out another video of mine that shows you getting disconnected - start 0:42 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-slqLM4H5h_o.html&ab_channel=Timosha21

@Machodave2020 3 года назад

If the paragraphs have to be taken down it just runs on diesel.

@Poisson4147 2 года назад

Uh, pole rather than antenna. But it sure would be nice if they COULD use wireless electric power :)

@joestewart8914 3 года назад

Some cities got rid of them because the overhead wires prevented them from flying balloons in parades.

@afcgeo882 2 года назад

Name one.

@Gabrielmaragh228 7 месяцев назад

0:12 C R I N G E

@GoosbyGoosby 3 года назад

What’s the point of this can anyone explain????

@draconas109 2 года назад

bit better for the environment

@danielsamuels5857 2 года назад

I like it. Now, all but about a tenth of the bus fleet is either electric or electric hybrid.

@afcgeo882 2 года назад

More efficient, more reliable than Diesel, provides more torque than Diesel too. Also clearly no emissions from the vehicles.

@danielsteffener7250 2 года назад

If a flash light uses batteries why does car have battery

@MAL1GNANT Год назад

Trolley buses are STUPID.

@podcast-this26 3 года назад

ITS AN ELECTRIC BUS NOT A TROLLY !

@afcgeo882 2 года назад

It’s a trolley bus. You can see the trolleys reaching up to the catenary wires very clearly.

@kenmills4739 2 года назад

@@afcgeo882 Another name for it is 'Trackless Trolley', rarely heard the name Trolleybus and/or Electric Buses. . .Cambridge Ma, Dayton Oh, San Francisco Ca (definitely on overload), Seattle Wa*, Toronto Cn, Philadelphia Pa (video shown here), the foreign cities to name alot; Brooklyn was in a world of its own-still is as it successfully mimmicks Manhattan in real estate-elevated trains/trolleys/trackless trolleys/buses, even Staten Island had a taste in trackless trolleymania for a time. *I always imagined Gillig Phantom buses used as trackless trolleys until I came across a book about the history of Trackless Trolleybuses with a picture of such a unit (King County Metro bus unit # 4100) designed by ALSTOM: photo archive by William A. Luke (this was in 2018).

@chrisjct 3 года назад

Don't see the need to use this it's very costly and alot of work to do

@Poisson4147 2 года назад

It's less costly than fixed rail and has the advantage of being almost zero-pollution. If and when BEBs become fully practical trolleybuses probably won't be needed anymore.