I think that it could also be like every Loki's thing to end up alone or feel left out and that's a part of Loki's life/character but as soon as the classic Loki tries to change that (not to be lonely anymore) a nexus event is created.
He was feeling lonely, because there was no one around him, he was missing his brother, and i don't think, without leaving that planet he would have removed his loneliness.
My theory is that, they were told to stand in that order Look at them once after Morgan stark , pepper pots , Roddy and happy , they are standing according t to their luck :- 1. Having bad luck - Captain America Peter , Aunt Mat Thor 2. Have Good luck but who knows future - Hulk Doctor stranger , Wong 3. May have bad luck in future- Ant Man and his family Guardian of the galaxy 4. Spending Good days- Black panther (shuri) Hawkeye and his family 5. Unknown - Falcon,Bucky,Wanda Child (Iron man 3) Shield guys (may be) Captain MARVEL NICK FURRY
@@my2randomcents did you understand the comment? Do you know figures of speech? “cracking the door to bring back MCU Loki” means it gives the possibility that our Loki also did the same trick, and it's possible for him to come back again in the future
@@heydrianluisanilao1757Maybe this loki got to live until he's old because he made everyone believe that Thanos killed him but in truth he just stayed in an uninhabitable planet for too long but then decided to leave because he got lonely and that's when the TVA arrested him because Loki is not supposed to come back. However, there's a plot hole. When Loki reviewed his whole life, he saw that his life actually ended on the hands of Thanos and there's nothing more to see. Just from producing a projection of himself and surviving the event should be enough reason for Loki to be arrested on the spot.
@@heydrianluisanilao1757 i don't think so, when loki saw his real timeline from mobius' projector, after he killed by thanos, it shows "the end" so loki being dead is supposed to happen. sorry if my words confused you, im confused how to word it in english.
@@mflmflbut in keeping an open mind now....loki was right handed,if he cast a reflection or projection,hed be left handed in either straight reflection or in distress forgot that 1 detail...loki tried to stab thanos with his left hand & if our loki was indeed that powerful,the classic loki was that powerful,he could mask his presence from the TVA keeping in mind he fooled heimdall who can see everything,past,future,present,every realm unless its dark magic which he cannot see through 🤔🤨🤷🏻♂️🤔
Richard E Grant is a ledge 'decieved even the mad Titan himself ' just the way he said that was better than alot of the garbage the MCU/Disney is churning out these days.
@@Cadence733yeah, one of the favorite fan theories between Infinity War and Endgame was that exact scenario: Loki was hiding outside and cast a projection of himself defying Thanos and dying. Nobody wanted to believe Loki died within the first ten minutes of Infinity War.
Not really. Everyone at the TVA knows exactly where he is. Sylvie's TemPad (which was originally HWR's) can reach that place. O.B. can almost certainly rig any other TemPad to do the same. There are also other ways of reaching the End of Time where Loki now sits. Additionally, he's jamming his power through the infinite branches endlessly to keep them all from degrading. And because he's outside time, if he EVER learns Sylvie's enchantment power (which he almost certainly has in his current circumstances), then he'll ALWAYS have known how to do it. So, he knows how to do it. Between that ability and his binding to the timelines, it's a certainty that he can "possess" any of his variants at-will. His form as we see it at the end of S2 cannot leave that throne, but he can still have visitors, and he can still act through his variants just as he would himself. And it still doesn't diminish his sacrifice. But, it does at least make it bearable.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 By your logic he literally sacrificed nothing and can walk thorough his Variants anywhere he wants all the time and do whatever he wants. There is first of all no proof to that. Sylvie also says „it’s weird that’s he is not here“ to Mobius. All he wanted was his friends to be safe and be with them but he had to choose. Otherwise he would have taken over one of his variants and still be with them. Don’t know if OB could rig any Tempad like this. No proof either for any of it. Just a speculation. I agree that sylvies Tempad could do it but she didn’t seem to have taken place next to him or really visited him so far. He is still gonna be lonely for most of the time.
@@jamaarchase1610 I really wish there were actual people on this planet... For starters...there is no "by that logic." Logic is not relative or subjective. One's rationalization or reasoning can possibly be subjective, depending on a variety of things. But logic is absolute. It's a different version of math, not philosophy. Philosophers are worthless...like economists. No...there is absolutely no reason for him to be alone. Period. And I already stated why. Your "no proof" argument is ridiculous, and every example you gave is anecdotal at best...and that's being generous. O.B. built something that can magically expand the Loom with a device half the size of a person just being chucked into it. He also just whipped up a device to yank Loki out of all the threads and put him back where he belongs in the TVA to stop his time-slipping (which, apparently either didn't really work, or wasn't a permanent solution). His original variant built a TemPad with 90s Radio Shack tech in a year and a half (TVA Handbook be damned). You're telling me he can't study Sylvie's TemPad and figure out how to modify all the others? That's utterly fucking moronic. As for Sylvie claiming that it's weird he's not with them, or the fact that she doesn't seem to go to him...there's absolutely no valid inferential reason for it. You can make a gross assumption that she can't reach him, or that he can't do anything to extend his will out into the multiverse, but there's absolutely nothing that contradicts the idea that it's possible in the first place. The only reason it doesn't happen is strictly a narrative-drama one, and not actually a plot-driven one or even a character-driven one. It's like when they claim Dark Matter and Dark Energy are a thing because the universe seems like it should have them, even though there's literally no evidence of either at all aside from the universe being weirdly too massive and expanding too quickly at the same time. Nope, couldn't possibly be their model is entirely wrong...gotta be some completely unobservable thing. Zero evidence of any sort that either "Dark" component exists, just continuing confirmation that the measurements aren't adding up. By this point, any sensible person would conclude that the equation is wrong, not that the values are. But...so far it's just more of the same. Just like the claim of aether when quantum mechanics was just beginning, to explain "spooky action at a distance." Just like the idea that if a shelf collapses in a closed closet, there must've been a cat inside that knocked it down. It's absolutely crap reasoning. There is no "in franchise" reasoning for why Loki would have to be wholly alone for eternity in this scenario. But...there is an "out of franchise" reason. Because they thought it would be more impactful and that's the way they wanted it. Period. Fans are fuckin idiots.
Him being alone on a planet was no different than him being dead.... But him leaving would show he's alive where he could interact with others thus he had to be taken. It's his interaction with others is the issue. Him living alone wasn't ever a problem
The timeline he was from was where the infinity war started and Loki was supposed to die there. Him not dying was already a complete nexus event. Him staying at a deserted planet got him off radar, but him leaving it gave it away. After all, the Loki of that time is supposed to be dead, so a live Loki will cause a nexus event even just making it out of that planet.
@@darryllance3383 loki surviving wasnt a nexus event as him faking his death and hiding is the same as him being dead. Once he tried to leave he would be able to interact with the rest of the universe essentially undoing his death which would be a nexus event
I like how not once do they show or touch on the exact quote and follow up which is the MOST IMPORTANT part of the quote and classic trait dare I say of all Lokis. Classic Loki directly states the powerful line of him getting lonely and that "I missed my brother and I wondered if he missed me as well". And THAT is what caused him to make the fate altering choice to leave the planet and seek out his brother. It's a defining and one of the best character traits for both Loki and Thor - at the end of the day, they are brothers and love each other dearly. The one person Loki thought of the most and wanted to be with was his big brother. It's even more depressing in hindsight after the end of season 2. Loki can only ever watch his brother from afar. And Thor will live out his godhood thinking that all of his family is now dead, (aside from Love his adopted daughter) never knowing that a variant of his little brother is still out there, being the best version of himself/Loki he could ever hope to be watching over Thor for all of eternity.
His nexus event was casting an illusion so real thanos abs everyone else thought he was dead. Since he went to the planet and didn’t effect anything that was fine. But when he tried to leave it would begin to effect everything else so then they stepped in…
That's what he was supposed to do though so TVA shouldn't have showed up that was his course of events that he was supposed to follow he didn't he didn't do anything wrong
@@ziddyf2635 I think what he is saying is that him faking his death wasn’t supposed to happened but the show explains that if you cause a nexus event but don’t do anything that will effect the time stream then they won’t grab you or even detect you and he didn’t effect anything but when he tried to leave an effect began to be put in motion so the TVA stepped in
Lokis continued existence after infinity war leads to a new kang the conquerer rising, by hiding on a lifeless planet after faking his death and not interacting with the rest of the world its as if he doesn’t exist and really is death so its not a nexus event.
… yes we did. As soon as classic Loki was able to speak he shared this reason and he also said he missed his Thor. We knew before the end of season one
His nexus event was surviving Thanos. He was so good at illusions that he managed to evade the TVA for a very long time. He only turned himself in when he felt lonely.
My theory is this is exactly what happened with our main Loki when Thanos "killed" him. The Loki that arrived as the TVA even talks about having the power to create this kind of copy, something more than his usual illusions. So prim Loki is right now alone on a planet, not dead at all.
@@badgerwijohnson4081 good story telling would be that the trickster had a trick up his sleeve and facted his death. Not stupiditly try stabbing Thanos. It was so out of character for him.
I don’t think being lonely is what caused the nexus event just cause he was lonely. But him disappearing, and being alone is the equivalent of Sylvie, hiding out in places that will be destroyed. Won’t have any effect on the future. But because he became lonely, he left his isolated planet. As soon as anyone saw him, he was alive, because they thought he was dead before, that started a branch. The branch couldn’t be create it as long as people thought he was dead. That’s what he meant. Everything was fine as long as he was dead. But he got lonely and had to reveal he was alive. That’s what caused the nexus event.
His loneliness caused him to leave his self induced exile form being part of the timeline and once he left it, just exiting caused a nexus event when the universe had thought he was dead.
Essentially Classic Loki removed himself from the world and everyone believed he died so everyone continued with the main story except when he decided to rejoin the world that would change the story and him reintroducing himself to the world was his Nexus point. So his survival of Thanos' attack on the refugee ship was a mistake in the timeline.
@@ministryofwrongthink6962 Classic Loki said everything played out exactly the same even up to when Thanos attacked the ship but this Loki was so powerful with his magic that he was able to create an illusion so real that even Thanos believed he was dead and therefore technically cheated death but since he was on an uninhabited planet, it didn’t affect anything in the Sacred Timeline from his life, it was when he went to get off the planet that he was hit with the bug zapper staff.
@@francisbungiejump I'm sure you're smarter than that, the clip is chopped up, later he says his nexus event is because all variations of loki must cause mischief, it was his isolation and lack of mischief that caused the event, not him leaving the planet.
@@J040PL7 LMAO what?? If that was true then why did the TVA only show up after thousands of years when loki was about to leave the planet? whoever liked your comment is as dumb as you
The TVA straight up said that The Avengers were SUPPOSED to do what they did. The Cap that went back to the past became the Old Man, he was actually there the whole time. A popular fan theory states that he was one of the pallbearers at Peggy's funeral in Civil War.
@@jayrocket196 The TVA was created by He Who Remains to prevent the rising of Kang variants and a repeat of the multiversal war. They knew that cap going back in time and marrying Peggy would have no relation to a new Kang rising, so he was supposed to do what he did.
@@jayrocket196which makes no sense because if the avengers messing with time was SUPPOSED TO happen how was Loki escaping NOT supposed to happen if it was only caused by avengers time travel in the first place…
@@princebealalthe3rd732 The Avengers were supposed to do what they did because they put the Infinity Stones back where they came from, thus preventing branches. Loki wasn’t supposed to escape with the Tesseract, he was supposed to get arrested by Thor and sent back to Asgard (so “The Dark World” can happen). Loki’s escape created a branch. That’s why the TVA came after him.
@@jayrocket196 again that makes no sense lol the avengers were supposed to mess with time and everything is fine but the results of the timeline after they mess with it is not fine…so you’re telling me hulk was supposed travel back in time and take the stairs and hit Loki…but Loki was not supposed to escape…yeah ok terrible writing imo
I wonder if that was Loki from an alternate timeline where when thanos choked him to death it was actually a hologram and not the real thing like some people theorized
Yes, of course it was him. Thanos was about to kill him and he created an illusion of himself and escaped, and got old all alone. When he appeared again he became a variant.
@@patrickadams7120 Yes because they didn't find out that the old Loki variant existed until he left the empty planet. Then he was identified and pruned so the TVA caught up with him.
Wow, I can't think of a way Classic Loki could be any clearer about how he branched his timeline. Can't believe you made a video just to show something that was fully explained in the show
Yes, that's when his event happened, but the real cause was that he was supposed to be dead, so leaving for whatever reason would've been a nexus event.
His nexus event was living. The timeline that was created by HWR set Loki to die in Endgame. When Classic Loki didn’t it created a branch where Loki survives
He was supposed to die on the ship that would have been his Nexus event if he escaped and interacted with anyone since he was supposed to be dead but since he went into isolation it didn't trigger anything but the moment he decided to leave isolation it trigger the prolonged nexus event.
Old loki was a nexus event for both loki and sylvie to trust in thier powers while they were fighting alioth. All loki are bought for this single reason.
He drifted away into space, and got on a planet, and he started to Mrs. brother for so he tried to make it off the planet, but his first few steps brought them to the TVA
That shows thats what he should be doing in all the timelines. So 616 Loki is alive on some barren world, and won't be stopped when he leaves because tva is changed...??
@@seanoverholt1736 I'd like that to be the case, but I think they're willing to have some "minor" details vary as long as the overarching plot stays the same. Since he ran away he no longer had any affect on current events, so he was a nonfactor in the future they where creating. faking his death and actually dying effectively have the same outcome.
My theory was that the planet they were branched to WAS the planet he was speaking of, because he said that the TVA "arrived". He was lonely, but now they were sending people there. So, his arc was that instead of running from his imminent death and the hands of a purpe being in the rubble of what was left out his 'kingdom'; he embraced it and used Asgard as the beacon. Kind of like how we heard the beacon at the beginning of infinity war before he was then killed by a purple being while casting an illusion.
He can do anything on the planet as long as he doesn't leave because if he leaves its gonna branch the timeline because no one was supposed to know him and know that he is still alive
Point is, Loki of 616, is likely still alive.he cast a projection so real thanos believed it. He’s on a remote planet all alone probably and now the TVA doesn’t exist thanks to Loki.
The reason why is because he is supposed to die in infinity war, since he casted the projection and left it was like he was really dead, because he didn’t interact with the avengers or thor. When he leaves the planet after being along he would make the timeline branch because he is supposed to be dead.
this sounds somewhat of a variation of how tom hiddlestons Loki would be living out his life in the future mcu. he already mirrored the glorious purpose incident when he rose up to take on the custodial task of the maintaining the multiverse.
His nexus event is to stay dead, away from Thor. So this Classic Loki went to this planet away from everyone, from Avengers, Thor, Asgard, etc. Everyone believes he was dead, so TVA was okay with that. The moment he wants to leave and return to Thor, that's when the TVA intervened.
