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Dies To Removal Episode 19 - Sick Of Standard On Magic: The Gathering Arena 

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Are you sick of Standard on Magic: The Gathering Arena? The Professor and Vince discuss what (limited) options are starting to emerge and what they think of them. Also, Vince uses technology to help the Professor improve his game!
Did you miss the last episode? Check out our thought on how Modern is Mastered here: • Dies To Removal Episod...
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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 года назад
Folks, if you enjoy this video podcast series do me a big favor and just take a second to share it on social media, or just hit that like button or leave a comment. Not sure if RU-vid is angry at it for having the word 'Dies' in the title or something, but I can see the backend analytics on this and shares and likes are GREATLY appreciated here. Cheers my friends!
@rommelojeda
@rommelojeda 4 года назад
it´s the word di*s on the title, other youtubers had the same problem
@epicfail9271
@epicfail9271 4 года назад
A suggestion not necessary to follow? To cheat the algorithm, change it to "dyes to removal"?
@ghostlyjester9134
@ghostlyjester9134 4 года назад
I want you to sughest small realistic changes arena can do You may have done this before but it also may deserve a revisit
@MJC962
@MJC962 4 года назад
Cheers
@ChilleDINJerseY
@ChilleDINJerseY 4 года назад
Tolarian Community College your intros lately have made me LOL at home by myself
@Ironclad404
@Ironclad404 4 года назад
Me: I am sick of mtg! Oko: Your opinion is 3/3 elk
@bdellovibrioo5242
@bdellovibrioo5242 4 года назад
The moment Vince says, "Twitch chat!" was quite literally a horror reveal.
@jordanaraujo2579
@jordanaraujo2579 3 года назад
That was hilarious
@wasifrahman2048
@wasifrahman2048 4 года назад
"no lightning bolts...just a little shock" lmao
@kyleellis9177
@kyleellis9177 4 года назад
I always enjoy making my own standard. 6 sets, generally 2 from one block. and 2 core sets. its always fun to change and see what works together.
@immortalsun
@immortalsun 4 года назад
Welcome to Oko: The Gathering, ladies and Elkemen.
@Jeffxm003
@Jeffxm003 4 года назад
Correction: there are no ladies only elk
@itsikpix5825
@itsikpix5825 4 года назад
9:14 Prof "So you are saying you do not have Saffron Olive's girth?" *Audible Pause* Pleasant Kenobi "That is exactly what i'm saying yeah"
@SampsonsCorner
@SampsonsCorner 4 года назад
Is anyone else disappointed that he didn’t put a beach wave crashing on his foot?
@dylanwaites
@dylanwaites 4 года назад
“Some people like white cards, and some of us like to use good cards.” Path to Exile would like a word with you
@Pandahboymtg
@Pandahboymtg 4 года назад
*Swords to Plowshares has entered the chat*
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 4 года назад
How to spot blue players.
@RecklessFables
@RecklessFables 4 года назад
Death and Taxes starts typing furiously
@jetsetradio5441
@jetsetradio5441 4 года назад
It's all fun and games until I steal the win with my Mono White Thalia Soldier EDH.
@Thoughtmage100
@Thoughtmage100 4 года назад
*Do you want to pay the cost for Smothering Tithe?*
@mikegibb5082
@mikegibb5082 4 года назад
“I was more referring to the fact that you play Merfolk at every opportunity...” “...Ah” This is a feeling every Magic the Gathering player has had at least once
@LordSathar
@LordSathar 4 года назад
I love the looks of disgust on people's faces when i break out the goblins.
@TheMightyBattleSquid
@TheMightyBattleSquid 4 года назад
I showed up to my lgs the other day saying I wanted to pick up some cards to make a standard deck this was the conversation between the cashier and myself: Cashier: Standard? Haven't seen you play that since the rotation. Me: Yeah... I was sad my goblin cavalcade deck rotated out, but now I've got an idea for a new deck. Cashier: Oh? What is it? Me: **Elemental** cavalcade! Cashier: Why did I bother asking?
@Rantaku
@Rantaku 3 года назад
*side eyes my vampire deck*
@9-b_b-9
@9-b_b-9 4 года назад
Can't wait to see the talk about Pioneer
@danielvanryn6979
@danielvanryn6979 4 года назад
Also, it may be that pioneer us heading to Arena. Arena has been tested all the way back to Shadows so add zendikar, Khan's, there's, and return. Voila arena is prepped for the new static format
@LedPESRule
@LedPESRule 4 года назад
@@danielvanryn6979 That's only speculation, and there's really no reason to believe that, otherwise why would they have launched Pioneer and Historic the way they did? Plus, precedent shows that they want to die on the standard-only hill
@lolimmune
@lolimmune 4 года назад
Pioneer was stated to not be slated for arena, and never would be
@NicolaiBolas
@NicolaiBolas 4 года назад
The intros on these are so great. When Vince said, "Twitch chat," I cracked up!
@jordanaraujo2579
@jordanaraujo2579 3 года назад
That was hilarious
@JoeGrzzly
@JoeGrzzly 4 года назад
20:30 As a matter of fact, Field of the Dead (a card I wasn't playing) got banned today and I got two rare wildcards because I had them in my collection.
@johngleeman8347
@johngleeman8347 4 года назад
The whimsical sock meta finally getting the analysis it deserves! :3
@gregsmith1875
@gregsmith1875 4 года назад
Best prof suggestion of the vid? Flashback drafts! I never got to draft Amonkhet/Shadows Over Inn., and would love the chance. Plus it makes Historic an actual playable format! Prof, make this happen!
@thedarkemissary
@thedarkemissary 4 года назад
Except it's not. They actually already proposed that themselves during their Renewal announcement. They haven't done it yet cause they're in the middle of the Eldraine release.
@LedPESRule
@LedPESRule 4 года назад
​@@thedarkemissary Just like in 2 years they haven't fixed performance issues, done any kind of social features, a better UI or any actual permanent format besides standard, because there's always a new set..? Huh. So basically the game will never get better because there's always the latest set to work on.
@thedarkemissary
@thedarkemissary 4 года назад
@@LedPESRule Exactly. The more "new features" gets dropped on their workload, the less likely they'll be able to fix "quality of life" problems. Just like the professor was saying, as the community demands increase, problems that don't garner widespread attention will continue to get pushed back. Unless, their Arena development team (which is a little under 100 people) increases in size, they only have 4 months to program in a new set, while simultaneously having to add features, create monetization opportunities, fix bugs, manage competitive play and improve game quality. Just look at a multi-billion dollar, free-to-play game like League of Legends. It's been 10 years and they still don't have voice chat or custom music playlist, 2 requested features since launch. It took them 4 years just to update their UI from beta.
@deadnoobie2859
@deadnoobie2859 4 года назад
21:12 You are only partially correct. Rarely do you get only a single card to finish a deck. Likely you would have spent your wildcards for the Wurmcoil, but what about any of the wildcards you spent on the rest of the deck? What if the entire deck is no longer viable? You may lose a lot more wildcards than just what was used for the Wurmcoil.
@13eetle13omber
@13eetle13omber 4 года назад
Next week’s episode: Why the F*** is Pioneer not going to be on Arena.
@D1570R73D
@D1570R73D 4 года назад
WOTC probably doesn't want to add in older sets yet, hopefully that changes.
@davidwilliams239
@davidwilliams239 4 года назад
YES PLEASE
@hugodiazroa
@hugodiazroa 4 года назад
You go and program all those cards
@lukesdewhurst
@lukesdewhurst 4 года назад
@@hugodiazroa sure, if you pay me to do it
@ohb71303
@ohb71303 4 года назад
Luke Dewhurst was going to say they’re getting paid to do it and people want it.. so yeah!
@mark86016
@mark86016 4 года назад
I needed that explained about bot drafting.
@georg194
@georg194 4 года назад
Thank you Vinc
@fernandopires135
@fernandopires135 4 года назад
professor: what. the hell. is this? me: headphones with sticky stuff atached to their ends
@fullmetalweebl
@fullmetalweebl 4 года назад
0:41 - 0:55 Just a top-notch back-and-forth, bravo.
@ritchards
@ritchards 4 года назад
"Twitch chat" whelp, that went about as well as could be expect.
@lucasdiamond5058
@lucasdiamond5058 4 года назад
"I crack IT!" actually laughed out loud. Always appreciate the content!
@MrRuff-cc3lg
@MrRuff-cc3lg 4 года назад
Lucas Diamond That scene was edited very well!
@joelhaggis5054
@joelhaggis5054 4 года назад
1:05 "Not a Lightning Bolt, just a little Shock" *nose exhale*
@juliuspavilovskis4862
@juliuspavilovskis4862 4 года назад
Its not massive 3 but a stingy 2
@egg9206
@egg9206 2 года назад
32:36 watching this in 2022 after getting arena mobile ads on this video is just [chef’s kiss]
@asbjoern0
@asbjoern0 4 года назад
What a pleasant surprise to see this in my feed.
@LORDofATLANTIS
@LORDofATLANTIS 4 года назад
As someone with depression, the beard signifies how far in I am - the longer it is the hard it is to claw out. Looking mighty clean shaven and bushy tailed today!
@Deathkeeper43
@Deathkeeper43 4 года назад
Pleasant Kenobi lives an entire continent away and still manages to meet up with the professor to continue this podcast. Incredible!
@NoLessThanAGod
@NoLessThanAGod 4 года назад
It's a shame how these discussions keep getting undercut by surprise announcements from wizards.
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 года назад
Wizards makes a new announcement every hour. Gotta roll with it.
@MrSJPowell
@MrSJPowell 4 года назад
@@TolarianCommunityCollege I'm sorry Professor, I'd love to read your 11 word response, but I don't have time. Wizards just made an announcement!
@kylegleason5827
@kylegleason5827 Год назад
thank you, Vince. Idk what bot drafting is, I just enjoy you two talking about MTG even tho I havent played much since 7th edition.
@guybrushftw
@guybrushftw 4 года назад
After entering modern back in Theros by making Merfolk I have finally bought 4 cursecatchers and finished the deck. In many ways, I've now completed magic the gathering.
@tshanson168
@tshanson168 4 года назад
Seeing this pop into my feed made my day! Keep up the great work gentlemen!!!
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 года назад
Thank you!
@ProfBazi-gi4rz
@ProfBazi-gi4rz 4 года назад
I miss the Story mod from dulls.. i loved the idea of playing the Story and get some details by a teller
@MrMesbane
@MrMesbane 4 года назад
Thoughtful discussion as always! Keep it up!
@colaocha1115
@colaocha1115 4 года назад
Pauper Cube would be interesting because Arena doesn't have specific animations for most commons or uncommons you can just use the same sound effects for most of the same creature types, the specific cards tend to be low complexity while still allowing them to programme in a bunch of different mechanics.
@confrontationable
@confrontationable 4 года назад
Thanks Vince, had an idea of what it was but didn't know it was an ongoing problem.
@thedark1owns
@thedark1owns 4 года назад
Love these video Prof and Konobi. I wanna see more!
@governorsofthemetaversegot9136
@governorsofthemetaversegot9136 4 года назад
Thank you Vince. I've drafted IRL but only started arena a few weeks ago and don't know anything about draft on MTGA yet.
@ikatsume
@ikatsume 4 года назад
Thanks Vince. Not really into draft so I’ve yet to do it in Arena. The explanation helped.
@TheMindovermouth
@TheMindovermouth 4 года назад
Great video, great synergy. Keep it up.
@cornbreadcuban5456
@cornbreadcuban5456 4 года назад
I know nothing about magic. But I come for the intro skits. 😂
@Marlun42
@Marlun42 4 года назад
Always listen to chat: Never listen to chat
@zarathos888
@zarathos888 4 года назад
As a memeber of chat i agree.
@angeldoyle859
@angeldoyle859 4 года назад
As soon as the electrodes came out... I'm DYING.
@10111269
@10111269 4 года назад
I think Prof. nailed it with his view of bot drafts being an "invisible problem".
@benhensley3621
@benhensley3621 3 года назад
Thanks, Vince! Maybe explain the milk thing too?
@georgethompson4599
@georgethompson4599 4 года назад
Always enjoy your content.
@joelmorrison1551
@joelmorrison1551 4 года назад
The beginning is how the instructor was born
@grasshopper1153
@grasshopper1153 4 года назад
It's Alive!!!!
@jordanaraujo2579
@jordanaraujo2579 3 года назад
Thanks for the bot drafting explanation. I didn't know that was happening, but now I know it makes a lot of sense.
@kylec3397
@kylec3397 4 года назад
Love the opening skits for these!
@sverionsea8841
@sverionsea8841 4 года назад
If you ever return to your tolarian Tutor video series i think you should redo your one on mulligans because of the london mulligan change. Cheers and keep up the good work my friend.
@volatilesky
@volatilesky 4 года назад
That's really interesting, while I would imagine it's more like an adaptable system able to add in new exceptions/procedures for instructions, I wonder if the system functions more on a neural net system which is able to track and monitor interactions.
@abcscompany
@abcscompany 4 года назад
I appreciated the bot draft explanation (even if i got most of it from context already). have only played arena since only playing with friends decks a couple times in high school. and ive only drafted once on arena and that was before i even understood basic draft rules....
@distractdelude7121
@distractdelude7121 4 года назад
Awesome as always! One of my favourite MtG based series - never not entertaining.
@scottellis9079
@scottellis9079 4 года назад
I found Vince's bot draft explanation very useful. I play arena frequently just not the draft, so i had no idea.
@Argascend
@Argascend 4 года назад
Wizards: If we launch a digital product, we can save money on physical cards! Also Wizards: If we don't spend money on improving our digital product, we can make more money!
@draftmagicagain1000
@draftmagicagain1000 3 года назад
Its win win lol
@LalleHolm
@LalleHolm 4 года назад
It's refreshing to see the professor in a bit more loose setting than the scripted videos :-) good dynamic duo!
@thedarkemissary
@thedarkemissary 4 года назад
You can't hate on bot drafting while also championing casual devices like mobile, tablets and console. They are inherently opposite focuses to the experience. Bot drafting allows the casualness of dropping in and out of matches, playing out a draft over a week's time. Perfect for those who aren't going to devote several hours to the game. Perfect for new devices like mobile, tablets and console.
@gochadc
@gochadc 4 года назад
keep the good work profesor! this videos with PK are really good.
@golgariguy
@golgariguy 4 года назад
Just want to say that I love this podcast! Keep up the good work guys :)
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI 4 года назад
Great video featuring Vince, probably better known as Pleasant Kenobi, probably better known as doesn't have as much girth as Seth, probably better known as Saffron Olive!
@christina.morris
@christina.morris 4 года назад
I was excited for Historic until I found out you don't get weekly win progress playing it. I don't care much for current Standard, and having to play it to keep building my collection feels awful.
@a.velderrain8849
@a.velderrain8849 4 года назад
I was excited for Historic until Pioneer
@maechael-ns1xe
@maechael-ns1xe 4 года назад
I actually considered doing electro shock during a charity mtg stream before. Would be kind of hilarious. Loving the content you guys have made here.
@Arrok
@Arrok 4 года назад
Do you pre-record these in bulk or does Vince actually travel to the states that often nowadays?
@itsmeblast
@itsmeblast 4 года назад
I believe they prerecord in bulk
@JStack
@JStack 4 года назад
Paul Arceneaux prof’s hair is one of the best ways to tell
@DynamicSheep
@DynamicSheep 4 года назад
It's kinda nice to start a bot draft knowing that there's no pressure to finish. You can literally walk away in the middle of a pack, come back, walk away after a few games, come back and finish. No time limitations is definitely an advantage over actually drafting. That being said, actual drafting would be nice.
@lorenzohot5234
@lorenzohot5234 4 года назад
Excited for pioneer!!
@DeloiVarden
@DeloiVarden 4 года назад
Always great content Professor
@joseph-yt2qk
@joseph-yt2qk 4 года назад
Keep up the great work Prof
@haydenubelaker5248
@haydenubelaker5248 4 года назад
Legit just sitting here wishing that arena would have 4 player gameplay and maybe Two-headed giant
@omegablast2002
@omegablast2002 4 года назад
Just keep in mind it supports brawl but only on Wednesday...thats a nasty sign of wotcs greed monster poking it head...does the brawl code break on any other day?? Nah, its very clever manipulation... The casual players I want to go on there for a somewhat Commander experience are not going to be able to stand a chance against these standard net deckers so they'll have to netdeck and get into standard themselves just to unlock the cards that they want for brawl.... Spend spend spend spend spend that's all they want us to do.
@pauljohnson3317
@pauljohnson3317 4 года назад
The opening skit is great!
@joelmorrison1551
@joelmorrison1551 4 года назад
I always listen to you professor
@ashenwuss1651
@ashenwuss1651 4 года назад
I love you guys. Prof. Of all your amazing intros and skits, this one is up there. Gg
@thegoblin2074
@thegoblin2074 4 года назад
I'd like to see brawl arena be a non rotating format that starts at Dominaria. That would get me more interested in playing arena personally. Thanks for making these videos they're some of my favorites to listen to while doing other stuff.
@harrywheldon207
@harrywheldon207 4 года назад
I think Vince summed up what I feel about Arena and what Wotc should here. I only play limited. I don't play standard, and probably never will. If you, Wotc, want to tap into this market (people like me), human drafting and good cube are probably the only way.
@bd6028
@bd6028 4 года назад
You two are just the best, and if it wasn't for you guys and the Command Zone, I'd probably have just given up on MtG by now
@t4washere384
@t4washere384 4 года назад
Funny that you put out this video on the day of the Brawl update.
@jeremiahbachmann3901
@jeremiahbachmann3901 4 года назад
There are many ways to wear wild socks without the clash (not the band).
@howardthelog9949
@howardthelog9949 4 года назад
Tbh I'm more excited to try pioneer than historic because of the larger card pool. Also thank you Vince for explaining bot drafting! I've only drafted on arena a few times a while ago so I forgot all about the bot.
@dustinlee5985
@dustinlee5985 4 года назад
I actually do love the Profs socks. Very classy
@reformed1trick739
@reformed1trick739 4 года назад
Thanks Vince. I only play eternal formats so I didn't know about the arena bot problem
@XoIoRouge
@XoIoRouge 4 года назад
Is this available in non-video form? Where can I listen to it as a podcast when going to school?
@Snaglbeest
@Snaglbeest 4 года назад
40:37 Scaring your tenets, eh, Professor? That bug might have a noise complaint on your desk tomorrow.
@justins7711
@justins7711 4 года назад
I cannot get enough of this podcast or those wonderful intros. 🤣
@rowlann
@rowlann 3 года назад
Thank you Vince!
4 года назад
Any chance of Dies to removal be uploaded to spotify? I would love to listen while I walk to work.
@robiniles4982
@robiniles4982 4 года назад
wait, Vince has a youtube channel?
@fkylw
@fkylw 2 года назад
It's like watching a modern version of the initial Dr. Venkman Scene from Ghostbusters. "You read my mind! I was just thinking 'eight o'clock!'"
@eusouzoom
@eusouzoom 4 года назад
about cube contentideas for Arena: I think they will start with simple stuff like a Planar Cube: Zendikar, since we are returning to zendikar again. Cards from all zendikar sets. Then maybe some other plane like Mirrodin (should be near in line after Zendikar).
@theophilosklonaris4859
@theophilosklonaris4859 4 года назад
To respond to Vince’s point, the reason people don’t want a curated list of random cards is because those cards will do exactly what you said; make new decks appear based on those cards. Historic is supposed to be a place where we get to play with our standard cards of the past. We don’t get to do that if they keep adding random powerful cards that make all of our old cards that we actually got from standard irrelevant.
@BassWakil
@BassWakil 4 года назад
I was glad to have bot drafting explained. I wasn’t sure how it works on either as have no access to MtGo or arena as I’m on Mac
@garretthight8302
@garretthight8302 4 года назад
Bass Wakil you could download Wine, which would let you run Microsoft programs on Mac/Linux
@dabigbossdk
@dabigbossdk 4 года назад
i'd give a kidney for a single new cube april video
@matthewbrooks9216
@matthewbrooks9216 4 года назад
That skit really got me, loved it
@uninteressant6467
@uninteressant6467 4 года назад
Just stopping by to say I really like your videos.
@getonmanuttz
@getonmanuttz 4 года назад
Great vid!
@snowy5599
@snowy5599 4 года назад
Thank you, Vince, for explaining bot-drafting on Arena. :)
@creepyluverasdf682
@creepyluverasdf682 4 года назад
It's just a shock, only deals 2 damage.
@BlancTangerine
@BlancTangerine 4 года назад
Please disregard the Dwarf Noble in the corner. He is not important.
@creepyluverasdf682
@creepyluverasdf682 4 года назад
@@TheMightyBattleSquid cast 7 lightning bolts and you die faster.
@Holostryker
@Holostryker 4 года назад
Thank you, Vince.
@Cotten55
@Cotten55 4 года назад
I did not know what bot drafting was, thanks Vince! Yea, I'm a newbie.
@aidanquinn3312
@aidanquinn3312 4 года назад
I didn’t know what big drafting was. Thanks PleasantKanobi
@rileyalexander9479
@rileyalexander9479 4 года назад
I needed the not drafting explanation. THANK YOU VINCE! Thank you Prof for thinking I was smart enough but, alas I am not
@coreyyates3385
@coreyyates3385 4 года назад
That beginning was very funny lol
@Cookiedive
@Cookiedive 3 года назад
Thank you Vince
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