Diesel Chevy Silverado Trail Boss vs new ZR2 V8: Which One Is the Best? 

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And diesel

@@vincenatalizio8997 For hunting, gas is better; quieter for sneaking up on wildlife.

@@BenKlassen1 Yeah, because hunting with your vehicle is morally correct.

@@perpelle I don't hunt but dated a girl who told me this. I guess you get close in your truck then get out and stalk. It's perfectly legal and moral if you aren't a hippie and have a license. You just can't shoot from the truck or near, across or towards a road. Hunter's safety class teaches all the rules.

@@BenKlassen1 Different laws for different countries. Where I live it's strictly forbidden to hunt/seek out/chase animals from a vehicle. You park your vehicle in the woods and then begin your hunting (which can be miles away from where you actually shoot an animal). Many animals are also not scared of some sounds. When I ride my 2-stroke enduro in the woods the moose/deers don't really care.

People don't seem to understand that when GM announced they were going to "upgrade" the interior, they were really saying, "we heard all your whining, we're going to change the interior earlier than planned but it's coming with a big price increase like all the other brands."

Good choice!

Doesn't it have the G80?

Mine has the G80

It does

@@MrWeaponlord G80 is not an e-locker ron

@@mahhty4279 you right, it's an Eaton locker that uses centrifugal forces or something. I too wish I could just get a locker installed in the front and rear and press a button.

I have the Duramax and love it. Lifetime truck MPG including towing and everything is 25.1mpg all hand tracked in Fuelly. Best MPG tank to date was 31.8mpg. It's phenomenal. It's a truck it isn't meant to go fast. I really wish the ZR2 was offered in the diesel just like the ZR2 Colorado is.

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GM products are garbage get ready for problems.

The Tremor just looks so gooddd

Do not buy a 3.0l diesel. Stick with a 5.3 simple and bulletproof, and the ZR2 is a joke! Uses same shocks as the Colorado zr2. Still has the rattling plastic interior. I’m highly disappointed in my 70k$ 2020 high country 2500

@@bigbeef8935 I’m buying an F150 5.0L

@@bigbeef8935 5.3 Bullet proof? What about the lifter problems?

@@bigbeef8935 lol wtf are smoking. GM has finally walked the segment with interior in '22+ Silverado Sierra. That 3.0 has been a tip top engine with superb mileage and behavior.

Just ordered a 22 trail boss yesterday. Was it 10 weeks total from order or 10 weeks from allocation?

I felt the same way back in 2020. I have had several VW GTI's, a Subaru WRX but got a 2020 Trailboss and I am enjoying the truck experience.

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Dark ash is so nice, looks almost black with overcast skies.

did you get the 18 or 20" wheels? I have the 18's but debating on swapping for 20's

@@raddadization Why would you want a 20" wheel on an off road truck?!

I hate the HDMI ports of the rear... wish there was a delete option for the TB.

Got 4k on my 3.0... very impressed with it. Came from a GM 6.2 and Ram 6.4 V8

What does locker do ?

A typical axle will have one tire that spins while the other does not in situations where footing is sketchy, such as in mud or rocky mountain trail terrain. A locker will put power to both wheels in that situation. In both axles in the case of the ZR2.

Wrong the rear locker can lock in 2wd or 4 hi the front locker is only 4 lo

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Agree would be perfect, MPG's, locking diff, good shocks from factory. Hopefully bump up the HP a little too.

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Full size with a 4cylinder huh? You’re special

Well 52k on it and have 23.4 lifetime average mpg so works fine for me, oh and it’s paid for… Get back to me after you move out of your moms basement and get a job…..

That's stupid.. Buy a car...

Nobody is buying low rolling 2WD trucks, except for OG Cholos (& I say Cholo w/ respect, which is about half my neighbors here in CA).

Get an RST

@@czrmtz2431 Really Stupid Truck...

I'm a huge fan of 2wd reg cab trucks. modified, even better. they are faster, better handling, are lower therefore easier to work out of and get better MPG than their 4wd cousins. i also can see around me that most trucks sold are the new soccermom mobile with 4 doors.(ok 99 percent) i have always hated 4 door trucks, the old ones looked like goofy limousines and the new ones look like suvs with a tiny bed big enough for a beer cooler and my lunch box...

@Mark Treu I watched Andre dance the line too. It seems he glazed over the ZR2. I still believe the TB in this scenario is the better option. ZR 2 will have a following just not my style

The Z71 suburbans look awsome though. I think the interior is nice in them tbh.

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Quit regurgitating nonsense u hear on the internet and do a little reading. Belt is good past 150k miles and u don't have to remove the trans to change it. Learn a little sumpin.

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That would be cool. Had to check the site and was pleasantly surprised that the 4.3 and 2.8 are still offered, so at least it has those.

@@ALMX5DP yeah, I tow a 30 foot travel trailer and live full time. A cargo van fits my lifestyle better than a pickup with a topper. Towing the Chevy gets better mpg than the Ford does, and in my opinion the Ford van is just ugly. I grew up and started driving in the 80's and drove a Dodge van for years. I just like the look of the old style vans over the European style vans.

It is in earlier vans ! I have one

@@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618 that's the V 8 Duramax, I would like the straight 6 Duramax, I think that would be a good combo for my need, but then again there is no replacement for displacement.

They currently have the 2.8 from the Colorado. But I think that's for fleets only

I think you’re underestimating the benefits of selectable lockers, while I do agree that the Boss is always customizable, and full size trucks will hardly see rock crawling, in some situations predictable accession is more favorable than an open differential and locking up after a couple of rotations. If an AEV conversion is to be available, I can’t see them accepting the conversion without the diesel as an option, and I think that a $75k diesel silver bison would be the ultimate version of this truck.

The 6.2 is the more reliable truck. Focus on what matters.

Those dssv shocks will not interchange with the Trail Boss or any other Silverado

at least a selectable rear locker and I think that would be perfect match with the diesel.

@@captaininsano2777 Do your research....No its not. And the 3.0 gets much much better milage.

GM products are absolute garbage have fun with the lemon laws...2022 Silverados are horrendous junk

Wow, that is about the exact same deal I had gotten for my 5.3 LT Trailboss back in Oct 2020. I think with some regions or dealerships bull$hit "market adjustments" added on, the value is totally warped out of control.

I believe is called at4 x

@@iortiz9681 Thanks for the info ! Its greatly appreciated !

Before the microchip shortage Ford was actually discounting the Raptor as the could produce more than the market demanded. Now there’s the TRX adding a vehicle to a niche that was possibly oversubscribed already. A 3rd player would be nice for choice, but not a good choice for profitability and sales volumes. I believe that’s why they didn’t go all out. I respect the decision as I’m not such a fan of the product as others are. I’m not exactly brand loyal but I have been driving Ford over the others due to price for content, and now that content includes Pro Power onboard, which I truly use!! A lot. Otherwise, the amount of Chevy truck you can get for the $$$ makes the decision a no brainer. In fact I run with a stubby truck camper, but could just as easily convert a topper carrying truck into what I need and be happy. That is less than the camper and the truck is less, so much so that I can build my own system that’s solar based to power things. 3 flexible solar panels @ 175 watts each (525 watts total) a 400 ah LiFePO4 battery, charge controller and 2500 watt inverter (you could go 3000 watts even). Don’t even need to use the truck’s system to charge up! (I would hook it up to the charging system of the truck though). Vs what I have paid you will still be a few thousand ahead of the game. I already had the camper and bought a F150 Tremor with the Torsen front differential before the ZR2 was available. I’m gonna stick with it for a few years at least. The F150 Tremor as equipped does 95% of what the ZR2 dies in the rocks and actually will outperform it in the snow and mud (you can still steer vs lockers that make steering difficult) so it’s a +- thing. It exceeds my needs and if you need the extra 5% on the rocks, the ZR2 is available. The ZR2 is expensive though. My Tremor is finished to the XLT level, but with most if not all, options available at that level and was thousands less than a ZR2 that the dealer quoted me on for price if I were to order one. Anyways, to each their own. I have gone way off topic,,,,,, 😂😂 Please stay safe out there, Eh!

@@shitloveaduck great info and it makes sense. I know guys with Raptor trucks and I've driven them. They are very capable offload but I cannot stand that Ecoboost engine. They should have stuck a Coyote 5.0 in that truck. I would have bought one if they did.

@@jasonpitts8395 - Thanks. I have had the original Raptor, a 2012 SuperCab with the 6.2. I bought it after I already had a 2019 Raptor SuperCab with the 450 hp EcoBoost. I had similar thoughts, but then the 6.2 was underpowered in comparison (it really wasn’t, but it’s hard to go down). I supercharged the 6.2, and then it has the power, but I guess I was used to the EcoBoost by then and actually preferred it. The torques is so way down low in the revs. The 6.2 and especially 5.0 have their torque happening much higher in the rev band. I don’t discredit the 5.0 as a motor, but it would definitely feel underpowered to the HO 3.5 EcoBoost. You would need to supercharge it, but even then the 3.5 HO can outperform many of the supercharged model 5.0s because of the launch. Maybe not in the 1/4 mile, but at legal speeds it has 70% of the torque at 1300 Rpm and that full 510 lift of torque at 3,000 rpm. The 5.0 peaks well over 4,000 rpm and i takes longer to get to the 70% even. There’s a drone to the 3.5 when you are off-road that many don’t like, I understand, but as far as actual performance, it really does outperform the 5.0 significantly. I am a retired Rancher/LEO (did both at the same time 4 as LEO then 4 days as rancher and so on) had a tire shop too, but a good manager so it was mostly hands off for me. The Ranch was 8800 acres with a 25000 head feedlot as well. I needed a good number of employees and trucks. I ran Fords from 98 on due to reliability, but more so price. Every time I put a truck bid out to the dealers, Ford came back with the best bang for the buck. I had all 5.0 trucks in my 1/2 tons after it came out for 2011. Then my buddy that owned the dealership slipped 2 trucks with the 2.7 equipped the same as the 2 trucks with the 5.0 I had just received. I ordered 4 but all 5.0. He had the other 2 on the lot if I really hated the 2.7s. Once the guys figured out the differences, they argued about so gets the 2.7 OVER the 5.0. The 2.7 was much torquier than the 5.0 and since the trucks rarely saw over 50 mph, the 5.0 didn’t get a chance to shine. My personal truck was a 5.0 work tuck and I loved it. After about 6 months I brought my main crew of 6 guys (I employed over 20 people there but many were transient, goes with the industry). I asked them about the 2 trucks and their preferences. They all loved the 5.0 for a personal truck, but 5 out of 6 preferred the 2.7 in the work truck. The torque was the thing. The trucks always had 300-500 lbs of tools and gear in them, were hauling hay, straw, fence posts, whatever, and often a trailer was needed for greater capacity. They were doing this on 2 track and worse. The 2.7 shone at these speeds. They preferred the 5.0 when towing at highway speeds. The fuel was a big thing for the business. Even though the 2.7s were the first chosen, they were about 10% better in fuel consumption. Month after month for the last 4 months prior. The first 2 months the guys were getting used to them. It floored me!!! I had not really driven the 2.7s. I had my Raptor by then (kind of a retirement gift to myself) and loved it, but off-road there seemed to be a bit of hesitation for the turbos to spool up, but it was ever so slight. In 4x4 low it really wasn’t an issue. I think it takes getting used to, but overall it’s a better performing engine. The getting used to part is where guys that truly drive both motors form their opinion. It’s either instant or some accept the difference and give the EcoBoost a try. I determined the 3.5s differences were far outweighed by the benefits. Now I will get one more 5.0 truck. It’s going to be a Lariat 2wd 5.0 and I will go with the Roush Supercharger and performance equipment. I will also lower it, throw on a colour matching topper finished in the box as well and it will be a toy. Hopefully there’s an interior update before they cancel the 5.0. I’m not a huge fan of the Ford interior now that the competition has upped their game. Sorry, another long comment. I loved the 5.0 since day one, but the EcoBoost, especially the 3.5, has grown on me and is definitely the better performer. Wonder if the 5.8 rumours are true. The factory is here in Canada and they signed on to produce the Ford V8s for the next 10 years, so,,,,,.