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Diesel heater in a Harbor Freight box: temps inside the box while running 

Tim Long
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Here is my build and some temperatures that are reached inside the box while running. This is a build clone of KeganBuilds. Check out his video called DIY Diesel heater in a box: how to to find all the details and a parts list of what he used. Mine is essentially the same aside from another layer of header wrap over the tube heat shielding he used, an standard SAE plug, and a few slightly different mounting locations for a few parts.

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@Zekerose
@Zekerose Год назад
Cool build. I just got a 5kw heater and it’s still in the box. I’ve been watching builds and you did one hell of a job. Thank you for the video. Take care my friebd
@billdoell990
@billdoell990 9 месяцев назад
Not only, across, the pond. To your, north, too. Nice work. I love my diesel, heater. Take care. From 🇨🇦
@NewLife-qj9mx
@NewLife-qj9mx Год назад
Great video, thank you. I too was searching for the various temps and how confined one of those can be.
@nate4036
@nate4036 Год назад
Very clean diy project. Well done. Do a video of the tin boat sometime. There’s a huge following of us “tiny boat” fans.
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Год назад
Timestamps for various temperatures 3:00 Inside the box temp on intake side 4:30 Exhaust Temperature 5:30 Inside box temp exhaust side 6:30 intake air temp (ambient temp) 7:00 Hot air outlet temp 8:35 inside view of build with box open 10:25 Exhaust temperature with header wrap and exhaust insulation Due to the way I put the amp meter over both the positive and negative wires of the fan I got an incorrect reading. This computer fan only pulls 0.33 A at 12 V.
@haydenharris3059
@haydenharris3059 Год назад
Superb
@SimpleLivingAlaska
@SimpleLivingAlaska Год назад
Thanks for the information
@garyprice6504
@garyprice6504 Год назад
I just got my one active today. Mine is in a large wooden box we were going to throw away. I wondered the temperature in that Keegan ‘case.’ Interesting to see your temp findings. They are great little machines - Although mine has used FAR more fuel in the first two hours than I thought! T’will be a learning curve.
@Zekerose
@Zekerose Год назад
I haven’t started mine yet. How has your fuel consumption been? Thanks
@garyprice6504
@garyprice6504 Год назад
@@Zekerose I don’t think they are particularly noteworthy for fuel consumption but they give a dry heat. Good for a caravan where the wooden carcass tend to rot.
@straightarrow5518
@straightarrow5518 Год назад
I just built my own from an All-In-One tin box into a HF Apache case. I like your install. Was curious about running the box closed and having the controller overheat auto shut off kick on? I put in a vent and a fan inside the box, but still ended up having to mount the controller on the outside of the case if I wanted to run it while closed. Just curious if you have seen anything similar?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 9 месяцев назад
I have not had that happen in many hours of run time. Set up like this in the box you cannot use the thermostat function, you have to go to the Hz setting. Your questions are exactly why I made this video though. I was curious what the temperatures inside would be, and how close it would be to auto shut off or cooking the controller. It's a non-issue though.
@vin9976
@vin9976 Год назад
Hey man, this is a nice build. I like that extra exhaust wrap!! It works so well!!?? Would you consider wrapping that outer exhaust pipe as well for safety? Or put the sleeve on it? I’m doing a similar build now
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Год назад
I actually want the section inside the garage exposed, might as well get all the heat out of it that I can. If this was not a rental, I would put an 8-10 foot chunk of black pipe the length of the garage before exiting out the back to get more of the radiant exhaust heat into the garage. Since I can't cut holes in the wall I have to run the exhaust under the garage door, so the only part I have put the sleeve over is a 4 inch section that gets sandwiched under the door. I was able to layer three chunks of the heat tubing over one another on that small piece under the door to protect the rubber sweep. Then I fill the gaps under the rest of the door with assorted lengths of 2X4 lumber. Helps keep the draft from coming under the gap.
@rondre3
@rondre3 Год назад
Looks good, I plan on making the same build. Two questions. What size or number harbor freight box did you use? Regards to the fan, is the fan pulling outside air from the exhaust side or pulling air into the box from the fan side?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Год назад
It is the Apache 4800 usually about $60 at Harbor freight. The fan is blowing to the inside of the box. That way it is blowing the exhaust out the shortest distance and not drawing it across the controller, fuel pump and combustion intake. I'm planning to add a small switch in line on the fan and mount it on the outside of the box. Mostly just for curiosity's sake to see how much it actually changes the temperature inside. With the heat wrap being so incredibly effective it may not be necessary, but since it draws so little current it can't hurt to have.
@diypunx
@diypunx 5 месяцев назад
Nice walk around. I just ordered the parts from Keegan. What fuel pump are you using? It seems quiet.
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 5 месяцев назад
This is the stock pump mounted in the little rubber isolation mount that comes with the kit. I've never really considered it being quite or loud. You can hear it in person, but I've never been bothered by it.
@Andrewthompson-vx1gx
@Andrewthompson-vx1gx Год назад
Where can I get the box that you have used I’m in the U.K.
@patrickvernon4766
@patrickvernon4766 5 месяцев назад
I have questions about the power plug. How did you do it? Are you using his 2 pronged plug?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 5 месяцев назад
It is just a standard SAE style female flush mount built into the box and a male on the power cord to the battery.
@vin9976
@vin9976 Год назад
What fuel line did you buy? Is it a certain diameter? Looks like you did two different types.
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Год назад
This heater came with the hard nylon line which depending on who you trust is probably the correct stuff to use. Since it's a very small inner diameter it helps bleed the air out of the system faster, won't bulge outward under stroke presser from the pump, and it's very heat resistant. The line from the tank to the pump intake doesn't really matter, so I just used some gates fuel line that felt like it would stand up to the elements and be durable in the cold. There are plenty of other videos here on RU-vid of how to properly install using the clear nylon fuel line. You use the small chunk of rubber fuel line they supply to essentially sheath the connection between the pump and heater and the nylon line. If yours comes with the orange or green fuel line my advice would be take the pump, whatever fuel filter you plan to use and the fuel tank outlet to an auto parts store and get better fuel line.
@erhelitruck
@erhelitruck Год назад
I appreciate your information. How much diesel did you use?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Год назад
I'm not sure because I didn't measure. There's a lot of videos on fuel usage. Also you can do the math because it's a dose pump that moves a specific volume, and the hz measures pumps per second.
@erhelitruck
@erhelitruck Год назад
@@timlong1462 thanks
@diypunx
@diypunx 4 месяца назад
How has that inline fuel filter held up, any leaks?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 4 месяца назад
Nope none so far. It's just a basic small engine filter so I expect it'll last the life of the heater since I run it mostly on clean kerosene.
@davidschlarp1606
@davidschlarp1606 4 месяца назад
What's the point in building one of these when they sell all in one units for the same price? I mean this isn't water proof. There issue an internal battery. Scars the advantage to this?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 3 месяца назад
Most of those have the little controller mounted on the outside which is a no go if you camp and this stays outside of the vehicle or tent. That's my number one use for this thing. That's why all of the temperatures I took here are important. My initial worry was the temps in the box would be too hot for the controller to live long. This is not waterproof, but I transport it on too of the vehicle and drive through rain and snow. I is rain proof and stayed dry inside even after a 10 hour drive. I also wanted something a bit more durable construction than paper thin sheet metal and generally cheap construction. Those all in ones just look so incredibly flimsy and cheaply made I chose to make this.
@vwlukas
@vwlukas Год назад
Could you please provide a link to the fuel filter you've used?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Год назад
I bought it at a hardware store by the lawnmower stuff. You can get them anywhere, or order them. It's just a Briggs and Stratton fuel filter 150 micron. This is not where I ordered from, but it's the same thing. Briggs & Stratton 4105 5-Pack Of 298090S Fuel Filter 150 Micron For Engines without Fuel Pump a.co/d/hXgBSq9
@vwlukas
@vwlukas Год назад
@@timlong1462 thank you!
@DavidBelknap
@DavidBelknap Год назад
I’m trying to locate the files. Do you have a link or can you email them to me?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Год назад
If you search diesel heater on thingaverse it is the first thing that pops up. It's called portable diesel heater.
@timharder9555
@timharder9555 4 месяца назад
How necessary is the computer fan in this setup?
@Lordlindef
@Lordlindef Год назад
Battery normaly 50% maximum 75%. 75%=11.8 volt
@Lordlindef
@Lordlindef Год назад
Topp 3.6hz in secret menu code 1688 is much better fuel consume. Ane burn more clean. Now you clogs it slowly up. 3.6hz at topp and 1.2hz at low. Over you only clogs it up slow but for shure. You get the same heat
@vin9976
@vin9976 Год назад
Can you explain this a bit more? I didn’t entirely understand what it’s doing?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 9 месяцев назад
I don't know about that… Look up any reliable source on these and they say the exact opposite of what you have said. Running these at low fuel rates results in more carbon buildup. You have to keep the combustion temperature high enough in order to reduce this.
@Lordlindef
@Lordlindef 9 месяцев назад
@@timlong1462 that depens how much experience you wanna listening to. If you want it clean and same heat for lower cost you use them. If you wanna open and clean it and use more waste of money for same heat, good luck to you. I am still burning 3 years stright
@Lordlindef
@Lordlindef 9 месяцев назад
@@vin9976 try low Hz 1.2 and max 3.6hz at topp. Fan speed 2000 2200 low. 3600 to 4000 high. Burn cleaner and saves fuel. And gives the same heat. If not go see fine tune china air heater here in RU-vid. Abaout same same if not remember wrong. Am on hospital now. But can send exactly later
@Lordlindef
@Lordlindef 9 месяцев назад
@@timlong1462 try and see ur self. Alsow fuel lowe cost. And less watt is used
@rudeman1914
@rudeman1914 Год назад
I don't understand why is everyone like doing this build if you can buy one in 2 different size that's already have the metal case. Not plastic?
@timlong1462
@timlong1462 Год назад
The difference is being able to set this one outdoors in rain/snow and then throw it up on the roof during travel. None of the premade versions are waterproof or water resistant at all. While this design cant be dunked under water, it could be sprayed with a hose no worries or set out in the rain with the addition of a 3 inch plug, or with the output heat hose in place. The only design I saw built similar was the Hcalory (I think spelled that way) and it looked extremely cheaply made for $300 or $150 more than the kit I built this with. The metal case ones just look cheap and flimsy in my opinion. To each their own though. If one of those works for you then save the time and just go with a premade design.
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