Lol about the queen ! ahahah (I'm French personnaly) But I can figure out that it's just because people in the Netherlands are able to differenciate what could be called a British commonwealth accent (as taken globally) from the American accents but not really a British standard accent from a NZ or Australian accent ? And I guess that "Some Stuck Up Nerf Herder Some Stuck Up Nerf Herder" talked about the countries rather than the accents ?
yoyotop yoyotop I was in a call with some friends and they said I sounded either Australian or British and I had to explain that I’m actually from New Zealand. So I think it is just very similar if you don’t know where they are from.
HOW TO SPEAK NZ: 1) Pronounce the 'ER' sounds at the end of words as 'AH'. Because we're lazy af. 2) Never pronounce the 'R', like... ever. 3) Add 'as' at the end of things as a SPOKEN exclamation point... haha. Eg: Fast as. Slow as. Cool as. Dope as. 5) Add 'aye' at the end of things to have someone agree or disagree with you. Eg: That's cool as, aye? This smells good as, aye? This song is pretty dope, aye? 6) Add 'PRETTY' to the beginning of things, also as a spoken exclamation mark, like 'AS'. Not sure why this is, but it's a thing. Eg: This is pretty cool. This pie is pretty nice. That house is pretty flash (flash means really fancy looking). 7) Use a lot of slang. EG 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 NZ1: Yeeyur. This pie is nice as. NZ2: Gizz a taste. *bites pie* Oh yeah, hard. My pie is pretty munted. NZ1: Unluggyyyyyy. NZ2: Swapsies bro? NZ1: Yeah, nah. Gap it, g. NZ2: Aw guuuuhmon. We have our own language but we promise it's English 😂😂😂.
That's the best explanation I've seen anywhere online, in regards to our Kiwi accent. My problem is I'm sharp on my R's, so I always get called out on it. I'm not from the deep South either 😆
I am a Korean and studied in NZ. one day one of my friend asked me if I ever had six. I thot it meant six pack abs and I said no. then I realised that it meant another thing and my answer was still no.
This video was REALLY weird for me since I am from NZ the NZ girl sounded completely normal and the American sounded different lol I never knew how much of a NZ accent I have
Hahaha but it isnt an accent to you. We have a lot of accents in America as well. 50 states means 50 accents, at least. Everything the American girl said could be pronounced many different ways in America. Also, different states will have different accents depending on where in that one state they are from. On top of THAT, they will call things different names as well. Like in the midwest (which isnt even in the middle or west of the U.S.), they call it "pop", but in many other parts of U.S., they call ot "soda" -- and some parts of the south call it "coke" no matter what it is. Like, they call Sprite a "Coke". 50 states is basically the amount of countries in Europe, so it gets pretty varied. That's why you can pass for American so easily, like Christian Bale, but we can't pass for the U.K. or other areas that were occupied by them. I honestly find it humbling and fascinating
Our English accent isn’t lazy, it’s naturally merged with the Te Reo Māori language, especially with the vowels. In Māori the vowel sounds never change, our ‘i’s sound like ‘e’s and ‘a’ sounds like ‘ahh’. It’s typical with any language around the globe that’s what makes our accents so unique.
Like in German, "i" sounds like "e". and "a" like "ahh". So funny! When I went to vacation there I was able to pronounce the words quite fine :) Also I like the kiwi accent. It sounds really nice to me!
I'm French and I'm studying English and last year we were studying General American and Australian accents, Australian accent is already quite complicated but our phonetic teacher was like "Oh and you still haven't heard the New Zealand accent, even I am completely baffled by it"
lonelyjesse85 Australia and New Zealand are completely different! I’m from New Zealand and when I speak people will say “oh you from Australia?” Hahaha 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Czelia CA there’s no such thing as a British accent. Here’s some simple geography Britain: England, Scotland and Wales United Kingdom or Uk: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland So there is no such thing as a British accent you uncultured swine 😂
@@hannahfran7832 Thank you, I now consider myself a little less «uncultured» as I just learn the meaning of «swine» and «stfu» thanks to you. I meant nothing disrespectful towards anyone in the UK. I also consider my accent from France a little snob compare to all the others in the world. You're right though, there's more than 1 accent just as there's more than 1 in french and there's more than 1 in the US too.. So I wonder, would you say Rosie and Andrea are uncultured too for naming this video «American accent vs new zealand accent» ??
A British accent? So which one? English,Scottish,Irish or Welsh? And from what region? As for a snob sound, i have no idea what your talking about there!
I’m a Kiwi who has been living in Melbourne for over a decade now. I was not able to hear the NZ accent until I moved overseas. I would say that the key to the NZ accent is to mostly skip the vowels unless the vowel is the first letter. When the word has 2 or more syllables and then you just skip the final syllable and any word ending in er has an ah sound. So if you say fish, it becomes fsh. Every becomes evry, Chips becomes chps, Caramel becomes Caraml, Milk becomes Mlk, scientifically becomes scientificlly, etc. Obviously there are exceptions but this is how I explain the Kiwi accent to people who are not familiar with the it and they tell me, it makes sense when explained this way.
Being in NZ for 7 years as a non-english speaker, I would say to me "i" is pronounced "e" and "e" is pronounced "ei". Like what u said milk is melk, chips is cheps etc, Wed in Weindsday, Pen in Pin check is Chick!!
H Narouei I have heard people say that and I can see how that argument can be made but I think a better description is the vowels are so short that they are basically skipped a lot of the time and if they are pronounced then the shortened vowels that NZ English has end up with a different sound than what it has with other English speaking nations. I get what you are saying though.
I'm a Filipino living in NZ and I really love NZ accent. At first, its a bit tough to learn but its really amazing especially when you sounded one. Very unique!
Funny, when I was in NZ I also couldn't stop laughing about "deck". I was on the ferry and they told us to "reamain seated on deck" while the vehicles would disembark.
I'm brazilian and I can say that the NZ accent is really alike with the brits accents. By the way, I like a lot to find out all curiosities over the accents spread in the world
New Zealanders when we speak barely open our mouths, which also contributes to us talking really fast. Maybe it’s because our minds run a million miles a second and we have to say everything as it comes, at least for me it’s a real challenge to talk slowly 😂
@@michaelbankart916 This is quite embarassing as I chose New Zealand to learn English for my studies next year (and to travel, your country is so attractive to be honnest :)! To speak fast is the best way to misunderstanding you as a foreigner ahaha
This is SO spot on, definitely me. I live in the USA now and still have no luck slowing down my rate of speech. I get "sorry, can you repeat that?" My American husband has to interpret for me alot lol
Ok I’m from the St Louis area also and I think she pronounces “envelope” and “route” the less common way. They’re both normal here but I was surprised she pronounces them that way. Caramel, pecan, and coupon have VERY debated pronunciations in the US.
Correct. I hope this doesn't sound rude because it's actually a compliment, but she speaks a very "posh" brand of English and that is why she pronounces certain words like that (everything but "lawyer"). I actually switch how I saw many of those words depending on the people I am around hah
Here in NY (at least), we pronounce the word “aunt” just like the kiwi girl did. It shocked me to have heard the American one pronounce that word as “ant”
Yes, I too am Midwestern and definitely never heard ONvelope in any part of St Louis or Chicago once. Have been to STL a million times. CAR-mel is very accurate. Rowwwwwte is how most Midwesterners say it in both states. ROOte, no. Some of her words are a bit southern style for being from STL. COOpon, yes, and peKAN, yes. Reply to the posh accent comment-Her accent isn’t posh at all. There is no such thing as a posh midwestern accent LOL. Try the old Chicago accent nobody has anymore if you want posh. ;)
Yeah it's quite strange isn't it. As a Kiwi accented speaker I obviously can't here it. But when I hear other accents it sounds like the reverse is happening. So when an American says "Ten", I hear "Tin" even though I know what they're saying in the context
I'm a Kiwi and spent 10 years in Australia from when I was 21 and I thought Kiwi's sounded weird. Now I've been back home in NZ for a few years and Aussies sound weird! It's amazing how quickly we adapt to our surroundings and adopt the nuances
The New Zealand accent was HEAVILY influenced by Scottish. It’s why the New Zealand “i” is generally pronounced as a soft “u”. The strain of the vowel has been largely removed in New Zealand but the pronunciation difference is still there.
Well I'm a New Zealander and there's no way I'd say that our accent is in any way influenced by Scottish. The Scottish accent sounds so completely foreign.
Rosie try saying "six hundred and sixty six" to Andrea. I am Australian and to me the NZ accent is all in the vowels of the words. To me, the NZ accent is a little like Kiwis swallow the vowel sound, and have a lot of "urk" sound in some of the vowels. Also both of you (Andrea and Rosie) have spent a lot of time in Europe and learning French has smoothed out both of your accents when you are talking standard English.
I’m a kiwi, and getting aussies to say “six hundred and sixty six” is hilarious. You guys say “sex hundred and sexty sex” to us 😂 But in return, aussies love hearing us say “deck” soooo... 😂
Thanks, ladies. That was fun. In NZ everyone seems to have an up inflection at the end of every sentence as if every sentence was a question. My mom calls then “up talkers”
There is a linguist history behind the languages. American English evolved from Irish, British, Scottish, Jewish, Italian and English people traveling together in boats. New York accents are generally more Italian and Jewish based whilst most of america is more Irish orientated. The exaggerated "R" and dropping of the "T" is common in Irish accent. New Zealand English is heavily influenced by English, Scottish and Maori vowels. Alot of the New Zealand accent can be linked back to Scottish roots. The English "I" originated from the Scottish "I". The lost of ability to pronounce final consonants can also be originated from Maori. Where "AO" replaces "AL" and "EO" replaces "IL" In words like milk. We don't realize it but we are constantly influenced by people around us. Language adopt sounds from people around them naturally without even trying.
In Norway, where I am from, there is a new dialect and/or accent wherever you go. On the other side of each mountaintop and over every fjord. We are many in our family, and none of us speak a 100% the same dialect. Yeah, it's super wierd and super interesting how language works.
Interesting video ! As a French person, here are 2 things essentiallly I noticed that surprised me a litlle bit: 1/ the American way to pronounce some words like "pecan" or "enveloppe" is finally quite similar as the French way. And much closer than the NZ way. 2/ The NZ pronounciation of short words with an "e" in the middle like "pen" "deck", etc I had never heard before. But yes, that's quite logical actually. Tks to u both !
She’s from St Louis. It was part of the Louisiana purchase and the city is named for your King Louis. The French played a major role in colonial America. Many cities and states have French names. Many words have been incorporated into American English. As a result she probably does have some leftover French pronunciations.
great video Rosie!! I'm actually already subscribed to Andrea's channel and I love her content as well!! Thank you for that great video that I particularly enjoy as a linguistic nerd!!
I think us kiwis tend to almost swallow/try not to open our mouths for a lot of sounds eg New Zilind, Mwilk. The vowels could have something to do with the influence of Māori in NZ English eg Ah eh eee o euu instead of Aye E I Oh You. I'm currently doing an English language teaching course and my lecturer thinks that due to a lot of people immigrating from the west country and other parts of the UK that have strong accents is why American accents tend to pronounce Rs really strongly whereas in NZ we had a bit more of a mix. I notice it a lot now because my dad is from Bristol and my Mum is from the Waikato/Taranaki and sometimes the accent pops up on really random words. I've lived in Auckland my entire life and when I'm travelling I have aussies come up to me thinking I'm from Melbourne 😂 I'm sure I have some notes on the linguistics of the NZ accent from a course I did in my degree a few years back. I'll see if I can find them.
@@Mat-t- don't worry, people from one part of the UK can struggle with accents from other areas. A couple of examples, the majority of my family are from Birmingham but I worked with two people from the Black Country (just north west of Birmingham) and when they spoke with each other the accent and dialect was so broad I didn't have a clue as to what they were saying. The same when I was working in Peterlee in the North East of England, I had adjusted to the North Yorkshire accent and the Newcastle accent, but there were a load of guys from small (former) mining towns in this business and they seemed to have a language that would barely pass for modern English. I still enjoy listening to different regional and international accents.
I lived in NZ for more than a year. What I noticed is that there are different accents within New Zealand. A kiwi from Auckland would speak totally different compared to one from, say, Blenheim. But the most interesting thing is their "e". It turns into an "ee". "Guest" becomes "gueest", bed "beed", 'pen' "peen" and so on. "Deck" is the funniest example, but even the numbers are confusing at first. 7 is "seeven" and 6,10 sounds like 16. English is not fonetically consistent so you can have as many accents as you want.
Andrea's 'lawyer' sounds pretty southern. Pronouncing the w is something I've always associated with the south. I know St. Louis isn't technically 'The South' but Missouri is a former slave state and they have Waffle House so it's at least The South adjacent.
I've always seen the New Zealand vowels as advancing one vowel further. short a (ah) becomes short e (eh): can=ken short e (eh) becomes short i (ih): pen=pin / left=lift Then things fall apart after that and I'm not sure how it works...
One of the linguistic phenomena that occur in New Zealand is the raising of the vowel "e," which starts to sound like "i." In words like "bed," the "e," instead of being produced with the tongue in a mid position, is pronounced with the tongue raised higher, causing the pronunciation of "e" to resemble (or even become identical to) the pronunciation of "i."
It's different if your a Maori Samoan or Tongan etc ... we say things different too like caramel ( caramo ) milk ( miwk ) theatre ( movies ) water ( wardah ) cheers ( churr ) lol 😂
I'm from Utah originally but I pronounce it like "loy-yer", with "loy" rhyming with toy and "yer" rhyming with purr . . . I think even in the Midwest "standard" US accent this word can vary quite a lot.
I had a professor from North Carolina who pronounced it like that..I think it must be a southern thing because I’ve also heard Texans pronounce it that way too
@@Muton230 I'm fron the Philippines and we speak at like "loyer cause in our country, English is very big deal. But I honestly love how "er" turns to "ah" since I am very slang in "r". I think it's like my escape route.
I'm from Minnesota and I say both pronunciations for these words because it depends on how I feel that day. Good luck anyone trying to learn this language.
It’s funny because most of these words Americans are divided on the way they’re pronounced. I do however say envelope and pecan the way Andrea says it but have also heard other ways people pronounce it within North America. Great video! Love from USA~
Kia ora from the Tron . so growing up kiwi . i know we have 2 main ways to say our vowels, AEIOU . 1st is Said , the other is sounded out almost . this make the E sound like a I and A can have a E sound to them the U can even sound like an A. . but for the most part it's a mix with the Maori vowels (* Arapū ) most of us learnt this song as a kid !!
The NZ vowels moves either up or down (That's partly random) so for example: e can be pronounced as I and I can sound like an e, but an a can sound like an o because the u will always sound the same. That's just my knowledge of it. P.s. I'm Kiwi
I am from non of the native English speaking countries but the New Zealand accent is very infectious... I caught myself pronouncing words like that for a long time after watching "hunt for the wilderpeople"...
Basically if there’s a T at the end of a word, we rarely say it and instead just abruptly end the word. All our vowels are kinda the opposites to Australians accents. And when we go over seas, people think we’re drunk because we slur our words and barely open our mouth to speak. We can answer just about anything with an inaudible sound and other kiwis understand, EG ‘nnNn” roughly translates to “I dunno” 😂 Also the word “aye” can mean just about anything depending on how you say it. That’s about it lol.
I’m also from New Zealand (with quite a thick accent too..) and was constantly complimented on my English accent in the US. It couldn’t be any further from an English accent haha. People everyone really struggle to understand it.
Vidéo super intéressante ! En tant que francophone parlant anglais il est parfois difficile de distinguer les accents alors merci de partager ce genre de vidéos c’est vraiment intéressant
Pretty much every word you have covered in this video is pronounced multiple ways in the United States. I know people who pronounce each of these words exactly the way the New Zealander is pronouncing them. I was particularly troubled by the word “caramel,“ which is pronounced as the New Zealand girl sad in most of the United States. Go look up the old commercials for the chocolate and caramel candy called Rolo. The theme song says “You Roll a Rolo to your pal, it’s chocolate covered caramel,” and they pronounce it exactly the way the New Zealand girl said it.
I am American from the Midwest and I say envelope the same way they do in New Zealand apparently. I have never heard anyone in the US say 0N-velope! Unless they were on TV!
Also the reason we pronounce a lot of our vowels differently in NZ is because of our Te reo influence. I quite often pronounce my vowels in Te Reo Maori. A=Ar, E=eh, I=ee, O=or, U=oo.
I don't know if that's even the "NZ way" because I have never heard anyone in the U.S. say "law-yer"--at least not on the West Coast. Maybe that's a Midwest/Southern thing. I've only ever heard "loy-er."
It is interesting for me because I was born in England but went to Aoteoroa when I was 7 years old, then when I was 14 we moved to Australia, and people asked me to say "fish and chips". I didn't realise the difference in the accents until after living a few years in Oz, then I could appreciate it. (I saw some graffitti on a wall in Sydney, it said "Auckland sux...Sydney seven"). It is hard for British people to differentiate the accents of Australia and New Zealand, but I can do it straight away. As a Canadian and American can tell their accents apart. (it took me a while to learn, but I think I can tell now).
Watched to learn how different Kiwi really sounded. And as a southerner from America (Texas) I think my biggest takeaway is that I REALLY want a girlfriend from NZ because I could literally listen to her talk all day. 😂😂😂
I did some linguistics at university ages ago, and although we never discussed NZ English, I'm pretty sure this thing that you do in "again" is a case of monophthongization (a diphthong turned into a monophthong, in other words a two-sound vowel turned into a single-sound vowel). The sound the Americans do in "water" or "better" is called an "alveolar tap" or "flap" in phonetics and it's a kind of a very short, brief "r" sound made with the tongue momentarily touching your alveolar ridge. Not a clue about the NZ "deck" and "bed" pronounciation, other than it being some sort of a vowel shift.
I’m from Australia but for the last few months I’ve been talking to a lot of Americans and now they’re accent is normal to me 😂. I also have a lot of Kiwi family so they’re accent is “normal” so for me Aus, US and Kiwi accents are “normal” and I don’t hear a lot of any differences.
Great fun! As a Midwest girl, yeah, we have a 'flat' accent. I casually study accents, but I haven't found the key to Kiwi yet, much as I love hearing it. Someone shared a "How to DAD" video on Facebook & some "expert" said DAD's not a real Kiwi because he said "fish & chips" not "fush & chups." He knows because he dated a NZ girl & her whole family said it that way!
