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Digital Devil Saga Part 2 - Harley/Hayagriva 

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Harley paraphrasing the Flowey speech long before it existed...

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@bedoclock118
@bedoclock118 2 месяца назад
i kinda feel bad for harley, he spent so little time experiencing human emotions & most of that time he was scared for his life & completely confused
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Everyone has kind of a defining first emotion, Heat's being... confused anger I guess, Argilla's being compassion. Harley just has FEAR. And he's got just as little idea of what was going on as everyone else. Definitely one way to make an early boss you feel bad for.
@verdethestarwarrior1088
@verdethestarwarrior1088 2 месяца назад
I find it pretty funny that Argilla and Heat seem to unlock their emotions from getting really angry at Harley, and Harley unlocks his emotions from being really scared of our party There are two sides to every individual: Aigis: I comprehend. Gale: I do not comprehend.
@thrasher698
@thrasher698 2 месяца назад
Since we're getting more into combo skills, here's a fun bit of trivia about them: All Combo skills ignore buffs/debuffs on the casters, always treating them as +/- 0. This is fairly useful in challenge runs or if you just get debuffed to hell and don't have Dekunda.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Huh, I didn't know that. That's really cool, then. I suppose that makes sense though, as how else would you handle them if one member of the combo had, say, -4 attack and the other had +3.
@Bulkynemesis4534
@Bulkynemesis4534 2 месяца назад
Woah this is useful information. I am currently playing along with enabling retro achievements where some of the achievements ask for no buffs and debuffs. This makes it more doable than i thought
@bubbletea_
@bubbletea_ 2 месяца назад
the "exchange" between heat and harley is probably one of my favorite scenes in this game.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
The days when you didn't need 10 minute dialogue before a boss, just a short scene like this that says what it needs to.
@NicoTheCinderace
@NicoTheCinderace 2 месяца назад
Take a sip of water every time you hear "I Do Not Comprehend". You'll be hydrated in no time at all.
@NEEDbacon
@NEEDbacon 2 месяца назад
Or change it out for booze and you'll FUCKING DIE! :)
@Paws42
@Paws42 2 месяца назад
At least you didn't suggest taking a shot every time, cus then all our livers would be screaming at us
@Blizzard0fOz93
@Blizzard0fOz93 2 месяца назад
Gale: “I do not comprehend. What is this ‘shots’?”
@paddlesawtactic9788
@paddlesawtactic9788 2 месяца назад
This is also one of those games that I feel has a timeless artstyle. It looks great and I don’t think that will ever change.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
There's just a charm to PS2 graphics imo. That could be nostalgia.
@paddlesawtactic9788
@paddlesawtactic9788 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy In many cases. yes, but here I would say it's mostly the art style. There are plenty of Ps2 games I would say haven't aged well visually, but DDS is not one of them.
@Blizzard0fOz93
@Blizzard0fOz93 2 месяца назад
One ps2 game that still has amazing visuals, is Evil Dead: Regeneration. And that’s surprising, to me, because I don’t think it was from a huge developer. Cranky Pants Games.
@cartooncritic7045
@cartooncritic7045 2 месяца назад
Kazuma Kaneko is just built different.
@MudFan
@MudFan 2 месяца назад
Unlocking emotions is when you start incorporating the word "hell" into your sentences.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
The Ow the Edge school of character development. (Side note: I still can't believe there exists an actual M-rated cut of Shadow the Hedgehog on a hard drive somewhere)
@EmperorSephirothII
@EmperorSephirothII 2 месяца назад
Serph: No, no, we didn't like, break in to one of the other bases and like... eat a whole bunch of people or anything. Heat: There's food everywhere! :D Serph ....... I hate you..... Great, so we're literally taking orders from Ultimecia, what can possibly go wrong? (Yes, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn voiced Ultimecia in the original Dissidia.)
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I forgot she was Ultimecia! I still need to finish FF8 so I can learn why fans think she's an out-of-nowhere villain.
@kingbacon6563
@kingbacon6563 2 месяца назад
Gale said his thing!! Honestly, Gale is just one of my favorite SMT characters. I don't want to get into spoilers, but I like his growth a lot. And his demon form goes unbelievably hard :) Also him being voiced by Steve Blum is just so cool as someone who grew up watching Cowboy Bebop & Samurai Champloo.
@Vegeta241
@Vegeta241 2 месяца назад
I know you said not to feel bad for Harley, but I kind of do. Just like the main crew he *just started* having emotions, and he literally just spent his whole existence (gameplay wise anyway) only feeling fear….
@dujges
@dujges 2 месяца назад
28:40 haha! This seems like Azura's lost in thoughts, just sing for magic to happen and plot to progress.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
JRPGs like their "mysterious girl who can sing a plot-relevant song".
@StriderBlade7711
@StriderBlade7711 2 месяца назад
This game's boss music Big Battle has always been a favourite of mine. Also whoa, that Ice Shot combo really made him even more of a joke.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I learned the Ice Shot thing from speedruns. Probably the last time an elemental shot is good for bosses though.
@prok4750
@prok4750 2 месяца назад
It really is cool how they were able to innovate on random encounters from nocturne. Things like the Macca bonus for quick turns or Atma bonus from devour makes it so there's more incentive on planning out your turns and learning your enemy's weakness, instead of in Nocturne where besides demon negotiation the encounters were more of a Battle For Survival and the time's I used analysis was in the single digits. Overall while the high encounter rate could still get annoying at times they did a pretty good job on improving them.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Honestly those are good points. The Devour system is interesting in that you've got a choice between more AP on ONE person vs less AP on the whole party, but there's also risk-reward to it once we're introduced to stomachaches. Yes, that's a mechanic.
@danielm.5078
@danielm.5078 2 месяца назад
17:50 I like that from both a balancing perspective and how it acts as a safety net. 23:58 That's a very Etrian Odyssey 1-style element. Void Shields function like the Protector's elemental wall skills (nullifying that element for the turn) and the majority of the bosses in that game have a really powerful elemental attack that'll be telegraphed in some fashion. 24:28 And due to the lovely situation that is regional and distribution rights, he's also the modern voice of Goku... for southeast Asia. In fact, there's at least three voice actors in this game who have voiced Goku-- Steve Blum voiced him in GT: Final Bout (PS1 fighting game that got brought over early on in the zeitgeist years before GT would be distributed internationally) and in the Dragon Ball Evolution tie-in game... Yuri Lowenthal voiced that Goku.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
17:50 I guess it's impossible to have a "screwed" MC there, yeah. 23:58 Well I guess that's also Atlus. 24:28 I knew Goku had a lot of VAs but... HUH?!?!
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 2 месяца назад
21:08- Randomly re-watching this as I get other things set up, but I just noticed in this scene for Harley's mark, his looks like it's crying (more specifically, looks like a little fire ball enemy shedding tears. Even has a very distraught frown too). Honestly makes me feel worse for the guy on top of everything that happened to him.
@greenrangerfan1993
@greenrangerfan1993 2 месяца назад
29:30 The contrast to Athena's Enthusiasm and Sera's calmness is huge. It's like there's no trace of Athena there. And I don't have to say anything about Fuuka.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Wendee Lee often sounds the same in a lot of roles, it's just how enthusiastic she is. This is more on the Veronica end, though not as extreme as Veronica's apathy.
@stfilo1948
@stfilo1948 2 месяца назад
Man this game sets the tones very well at the beginning ngl and the ost on sahasrara is amazing. Also the "I do not comprehend" counter is perfect for this game 34:58
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I'm not sure if it'll ever match Ryuji's For Real, but we'll... see.
@AlizardJaeF
@AlizardJaeF 2 месяца назад
1:50 Most of the animations so far are pretty typical for the era (not bad, but very exaggerated and a little clunky), but there's something really smooth and natural about the way Harley shuffles and then falls into a run there, kudos to the animator of that sequence. Looking at his sequences later in the video, it looks like that specific shuffle and turn is reused a couple times, as well as Harley having a unique run cycle that fits with it. Neat! Wonder if any other characters will use it later.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
PS2 games had really nice animation sometimes.
@SteelPokeNinja
@SteelPokeNinja 2 месяца назад
This seems like quite the fun game, and press turns seem really interesting. Looking forwards to the rest of the playthrough. In terms of a personal achievement, as of today I have finished my last class in High School! It’ll still be another week until I officially graduate, but otherwise I’m done!
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Congrats! Hope you enjoy wherever your life leads next.
@Lucas17031
@Lucas17031 2 месяца назад
I have little to no experience with this series, gotta say, I'm already learning a lot and having fun! Glad I woke up for this new series~ (I know im a day late, but I didnt have time yesterday to comment-)
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Hope you enjoy, going forward.
@lucaszupnik6845
@lucaszupnik6845 2 месяца назад
21:50 Man, I can't believe that Marty the zebra show up in a SMT game
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
At least there's no circus afro here.
@Raven-Silver
@Raven-Silver 2 месяца назад
:Howdy, I'm Harley. Harley, the Zebra! Nice to meet'cha!" Is that the vibes he gives off?
@thefinalskarm1754
@thefinalskarm1754 Месяц назад
17:55 the pleroma skills feel so strong in smt5, the protagonist was lacking one and a demon with 70 less magic was hitting for just slightly less than him. smt4 is definitely the catalyst of "oooh we made a magic oopsie here". I hear 4a is fairly balanced with gun, magic and phys.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Месяц назад
I like how there's even a Heal Pleroma skill.
@jackleveille9319
@jackleveille9319 2 месяца назад
Harley's Avatar form resembles a Zebra while our party has forms that look "cool" I do not comprehend.
@Skeithwannabe
@Skeithwannabe 2 месяца назад
So it turns out their is a series of Light Novels made by the Orginal Author of Digital Devil Saga who due to health problems couldn't finish it themselves. Only the first two volumes (The ones that follow DDS1) are translated and are difficult to obtain. Relative to this episode Harley doesn't become Hayagriva but a black ooze. The most notable thing is Serph is more of a character in the Novel because and here's another bit of Trivia Gale was never planned and a lot of his lines are actually what the Author wrote for Serph.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I did know about Quantum Devil Saga and was going to talk about it later, though I haven't read it. There's elements from it I think are cool but also aspects I prefer in the final games. (e.g the Karma Temple in the original plan/light novel is far more Church-coded, which has been done to death in RPGs and SMT)
@Skeithwannabe
@Skeithwannabe 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy Cool. The only reason I even know about it is basically stumbling onto it.
@Cyberspace318
@Cyberspace318 2 месяца назад
0:23 Considering that we're getting this tutorial now... gee, I wonder what element these Empusas use. 1:44 That's cool. Due to SMT constantly reusing Demons, it's nice when the real life mythology of the enemies in an area matches up with what's happening in-game (Persona 5 in particular was pretty good at this). 2:00 Harley is Lu Bu confirmed? 7:47 Gotta consume 'em all, I suppose. 11:32 Counterargument: popsicles! Wait, popsicles aren't healthy... I rescind my counterargument. 14:53 It kind of reminds me of one of the experience bonuses in Trails. 18:03 Speaking of which, what would you say is better in SMTV: physical or magic? 21:07 Heat, are you okay there? 21:44 Oh hey, Flowey, when did you get here? 22:31 NOW THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE!!! 25:48 Interesting how before he had emotions, Harley did seem to be a competent enough leader, making his downfall all the more tragic. 29:29 So she's basically Azura (at least in terms of her singing being a plot device) but with Lyn's VA, good to know. 30:39 I had a feeling you were going to do this. 33:25 Of course, Heat is more of an asshole now than before, so whether or not this is an improvement is debatable. 35:44 Twister, huh? Considering that Gale hasn't joined the party yet, you could say... that power is yet unknown. 39:17 Hmm, a person who has the same VA as Kashiwagi in Persona 4, we can definitely trust this person, right? 40:52 Yeah, it's pretty obvious to tell who he's voiced by.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
14:53 I like when they added those... although, that achievement in Zero for getting a x4 multiplier was really annoying to get because the bonuses back then were so small. 35:44 Heh, I get it. 40:52 He's been in Atlus games for a while.
@Cyberspace318
@Cyberspace318 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy 14:53 Actually, the one in Zero was getting a x3 multiplier, you're thinking of the one in Azure. Weirdly, I found the Azure one to be easier since you can get it fairly easily with a bit of stalling in the boss fight right before the final boss due to the sheer amount of minions the boss summons, letting you easily rack up bonuses for overkilling and defeating multiple enemies at once. As for the one in Zero, I didn't get that until NG+ where I got it at around the same time as I got the achievement for cancelling 100 arts and crafts (on a side note, why the f*ck was that a thing that existed?).
@NEEDbacon
@NEEDbacon 2 месяца назад
Since it keeps getting mentioned, the whole religous Cyberpunk aesthetic here keeps reminding me of E.Y.E: Divine Cybermancy.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Looking it up... I guess kinda?
@TheJaredPunch
@TheJaredPunch 2 месяца назад
I have heard the comparisons between this game and Xenoblade 3, and from what I’m seeing so far, the similarities are both there and not there for me. It’s hard to explain. The characters transforming into Demons also reminds me of the characters in Metaphor Refantazio becoming their Archetypes. 0:20 It’s eat or be eaten. Literally. 1:45 Such as war itself, doing what ever it takes to survive. 9:10 Kono Gaki da! Sukuna when he breathes in Yuji’s presence or Vice Versa 12:35 SMT Puff Puff anyone? 24:28 Also previously Wargreymon in the Digimon Adventure series and Suguru Geto from Jujutsu Kaisen 29:28 Hi Veronica 30:54 People who don’t bother to understand Fire Emblem Engage or Kingdom Hearts lol 😂
@stfilo1948
@stfilo1948 2 месяца назад
Well the difference that I notice is defenetly that the dds soldiers are cold like machines meanwhile the soldiers on xc3 have at least some emotion like Dirk that was pretty sadistic.
@TheJaredPunch
@TheJaredPunch 2 месяца назад
@@stfilo1948well that’s definitely one thing, in fact, that’s how I describe how Segiri was.
@bradleyharris774
@bradleyharris774 2 месяца назад
I can definitely see the parallels between DDS and XC3. Moreso with DDS2 and its plot elements.
@skyboy7244
@skyboy7244 2 месяца назад
24:28 I most know Lex Lang from being Geto in JJK. His voice has a real soothing quality to it in that show, especially during the first arc of season 2
@psirockin2251
@psirockin2251 2 месяца назад
"I do not comprehend" -> he's speaking the language of the gods
@LightbladeRiulo
@LightbladeRiulo 2 месяца назад
Oh no does he say "I do not comprehend" that often??
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
He says it... a decent amount. Not as much as Ryuji's For Real, but it's a clear catchphrase.
@cameronmclean6804
@cameronmclean6804 2 месяца назад
34:42 and the Ultimate Gun for Yoshizawa in Persona 5 Royal
@kl4969
@kl4969 2 месяца назад
The human transformation is interesting in this game. Reminds of using Roost to get rid of weaknesses. 8:30 Nudity warning! :P 11:17 So this game has an Eating element XD Fiend Slime is what happens when Matador is replaced by a slime in a randomizer. 21:49 I guess a zebra transformation is better than a giant TV-flower-skull-tentacle thing.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Actually it kinda IS like Roost, thinking about it. 11:17 lol, that'd be amazing.
@bahamutxero9573
@bahamutxero9573 2 месяца назад
I'm getting P5S Sophie vibes from Sera...."I have amnesia but I'm humanity's companion" to "I have amnesia but I'm here to help everyone." Coincidence? I think not.
@paddlesawtactic9788
@paddlesawtactic9788 2 месяца назад
I find it interesting that Gale is the character that goes berserk. For reasons we’ll get into, it’s a fascinating choice.
@corpussakahagi2116
@corpussakahagi2116 2 месяца назад
Unless I'm mistaken, it's also a pain in the ass to grind up Agility-increasing items. Vitality-increasing items and Magic-increasing items are easy to grind for, albeit very tedious.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I believe HP and MP Noise are also decently easy to farm. The main issue with Power Noise (Strength) is it's only dropped by Ongyo-Ki, a rare encounter in the final dungeon.
@corpussakahagi2116
@corpussakahagi2116 2 месяца назад
Quick Noise (Agility) is only dropped by Garuda, which is first encountered as a boss in the final dungeon.
@shincadad7622
@shincadad7622 2 месяца назад
You mentioned earth magic in the last episode, and it’s interesting because it’s only present in five entries in the whole megami tensei umbrella, under different designations, in DDS1&2 it goes by Tera, and in P1 and both P2 games, it goes by magna 6:44 won’t elaborate further until the end, but it is possible to beat the superboss with no grinding for stat boosters or levels, just skill grinding is what’s needed really… but if you’re grinding for skills you’re gonna grind for skills you’re gonna get levels anyway so lol 8:40 in most mainline games pretas are weak to all magic except for dark so it’s interesting they went with a more accurate weakness spread here 11:05 hunt skills essentially a subset of the almighty element is very welcome, even with their low damage output 14:47 Fun fact: according to some lines of dialogue in another megami tensei game, canonically one whole turn takes one second in world, meaning in the previous battle for example, Serph, Argilla and Heat all acted in less than a second 21:11 The colored lines from their markings spreading out over their body is such a cool visual man i love this game’s aesthetic 25:58 Well… they do 1 damage, but i wonder if you can devour a boss if you try hard enough 34:54 always thought the soundtrack of Sahasrara specifically was peak mid 2000 35:33 “every atma has a name that’s only relevant in supplemental materials”… or in certain quizzes, unfortunately 38:06 ON SIGHT
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I like Magna, personally. Persona 2 also has Water as an element. 6:44 I mention this later, but Mantras/skills matter a LOT more than levels in this game, imo. 11:05 Basically physical sorta-almighty. Like self-destruct damage in Nocturne. 14:47 Huh, that's interesting. Which game? 21:11 Totally agree. 25:58 I'm still not sure it works. I guess you could TRY... 35:33 Yeah that comes up later.
@Flametix
@Flametix 2 месяца назад
I like how all the leaders don't understand the demons and don't really need to because they were already fighting each other before anyway. You would think that taking over a tribe would be a bigger deal for the conflict but I guess there are more immediate issues. So far it feels like these guys went from a generic military game and just got modded into a completely different genre. Combos seem pretty neat, though an ally powering up your gun but still shooting your personal element is not what I would have expected at first. I like how they are accessible outside your skill slots in a way since you don't seem to have a lot of room, or no room at all with humans.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
lol yeah they got modded into a different genre, that's a good summary. And yeah the gun combos are kinda weird, it's the shooter who determines the element, not the type of shield skill. So Heat in contributing Void Fire but you still get Ice Shot. This is true for everyone, so Heat's gun = Fire Shot, Argilla's = Earth Shot.
@AquaLantern
@AquaLantern 2 месяца назад
1:40 Interesting, so like how the Palaces in P5 have a lot of their monsters being themed to that ruler's sin. 15:55 So like Getsu-ei and Zan-ei from P3. I still remember those skills because I used Ares for a LONG time on my first run of P3. Since I leveled up Yuko really quick and early, Ares was strong enough to stomp most fights where I couldn't hit weaknesses. 29:30 Yup, as soon as I heard her voice, I immediately thought of her lines from Persona Q. "Come, Lucia." "Please, Juno!"
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
15:55 The equivalents in Nocturne are insanely strong, guaranteeing crits at New or Full moon phase. They... nerfed them here.
@absoul112
@absoul112 2 месяца назад
Only 2 episodes in and I wish this game was on a console I owned (that worked). Edit: Now that you mention it, I wonder if black hair was a deliberate choice considering how common it is.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
At this point PS2 emulators aren't that hard to use, though this game crashes sometimes on some. It probably was, especially as this game was made in Japan.
@absoul112
@absoul112 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy eh, I’ve emulated PS1, GBA, and SNES, so I might as well try. And I can also play Berwick saga if it works.
@ultimateshadow7522
@ultimateshadow7522 2 месяца назад
24:26 That is amazing! 25:40 Indeed. He just grew emotions, and the only one he got to experience was fear. 27:13 It's the Feral Ones all over again! 33:08 Edgy Cannibal Ouroboros? 35:19 Again I say, he is WAY too comfortable with this! 39:20 Surely, you could have come up with a better name than "Angel?" This thing isn't even trying!
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
27:13 Actually lol. Berserk allies calmed down by singing. 39:20 Again, everyone's names are pretty on-the-nose here.
@cameronmclean6804
@cameronmclean6804 2 месяца назад
And FE Engage Lyn and Veronica
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I can't believe I forgot about Lyn. Guess I'm just used to her with no voice acting.
@shelbybayer200
@shelbybayer200 2 месяца назад
Wendee Lee also voices the character Blanc/White Heart in HyperDimension Neptunia
@Sean_Bird
@Sean_Bird 2 месяца назад
Time to hunt down Harley... 8:45 I wonder what that says about the people that transformed into them... 11:26 At least Heat can heat his meals with Agi... however he casts it. 12:55 Yeah, that's not a skeleton! 24:34 That dying scream syncs way too well. Sera’s intro… Sure reminds me of Azura. 35:18 Well Heat sure adjusted fast. 38:04 This man’s eyes gained color after one look at Serph. I believe that’s what we refer to “hater energy”. 40:05 Ah. Well that’s probably important.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
24:34 I did not plan it that way and somehow it really worked. 38:04 Yeah that's a WHOLE can of worms that we'll get into way later.
@gavinbunting7354
@gavinbunting7354 2 месяца назад
21:55, I see the enemy’s in this game are just as funny looking as in persona.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
They share the same artist.
@gavinbunting7354
@gavinbunting7354 2 месяца назад
Ah, that makes sense.
@andresalasthemessenger
@andresalasthemessenger 2 месяца назад
Inevitable for Harley.. Gale? .. Hm? Sera?.. Huh.. (Help..) Summoned to the temple? ... Going there then with the rest of the Tribe Leaders even for Serph himself.. Inside the temple... ??!!... This is.. Something.. (Sera?.. Well that takes a huge turn of event..) Demon.. Mantra... Hmm...
@ikhwananimationsbeyondweeb4528
@ikhwananimationsbeyondweeb4528 2 месяца назад
10:27 After Battle Mukbang Party!!! 13:13 Slime can't die, too op. Pls nerf 14:56 Finally, farming karma can be a good thing 30:09 Had a feeling that voice sounds familiar 30:38 He said it! He said the line! 38:06 Colonel Beck locked in 39:22 The way he says it is like "I know who that is!" 42:02 Hirameta! *You learned Essence of Mantra*
@silveracies9876
@silveracies9876 2 месяца назад
1:44 I like Harley's animations here. They really sell that this is a man frightened out of his mind avoiding you at all costs. 18:04 Yeah... I remember hearing that in other games certain stats were busted like that (I seem to remember hearing that Nocturne gets a fair bit easier if you do a mostly physical build) so it makes sense they nerfed it for V. 32:20 I can only imagine the report someone gave the first time it happened. 39:56 ...sigh... of course someone would gain a mark THERE....
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
1:44 PS2 models could do decent things. 18:04 Nocturne is interesting because technically magic is better early on, due to how early you can get Force Boost (no Amp in Nocturne so Boost is 50%) and a heavy multi-hit Force spell. But physical is essentially required for the True Final Boss as it massively resists everything but that route lets your physical attacks pierce resistances. Fortunately stats only go up to 30 in Nocturne so there's plenty of time to pivot. 39:56 Yeah this one character design is kinda dumb.
@corpussakahagi2116
@corpussakahagi2116 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy I thought that stats go up to 40 in Nocturne.
@jrhamari
@jrhamari 2 месяца назад
14:17 Its funny you meantion water in regards to SMT since Im pretty sure Persona 2 has a water element thst is considered seperate from ice.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Yeah. P2 has a lot of weird elements. I think one early Persona game had every type of weapon with its own elements, like "Submachine Gun" and "Whip".
@jrhamari
@jrhamari 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy That sounds like a Persona 1 thing. I know that Ayase used whips iirc. I dont remember who used submachine guns in that game though. The only one I can remember is Kei using I think a sniper rifle? Its been a long time since I played the PSP version.
@Bulkynemesis4534
@Bulkynemesis4534 2 месяца назад
I think this is where i ended my first attempt at playing this game. From now on i am completely blind
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 2 месяца назад
6:10- Weird seeing Hell Thrust as an early game skill. 13:00- If Slime is considered a Fiend in this universe, then the Fiends here REALLY got desperate for new members. (Though given how Demi is in this game, I'd like to think this game has random demons claim the cool title of Fiends since all of the actual Fiends are dead from Demi's adventure and no one can stop them from "joining" the Fiends given they're dead. lol) 14:52- Oh, that's nice since Macca farming in SMT games can sometimes be tedious and I doubt this game will have absurdly silly Macca grinding methods like raiding the Hell Vault in Nocturne or paralyzing and then mugging demons in SMTIV. 15:42- Weird indeed. Imagine trying to sell some extra stuff, like at a cash for gold place, and you get less money for something valuable because the shop keep tells you it's slightly pass noon or something. 18:50- Nah, that wasn't SMT BS; If it was, the enemy would get the perfect amount of press turns from crits and then either party wipes you (or in games where the MC dying equals a game over, focus fire entirely on him). Xp 20:13- Oh, that's quite impactful. Good to know. 24:00- Outside of that AoE spell and having a Void skill, I think this guy might have topped Nocturne Forneous as the weakest starter boss in a SMT game that I've seen so far. 24:40- lol As if I needed more reason to start seeing that guy as a joke. 29:21- Quite a performance, especially if it could stop someone transformed from being berserk. Looks like BigKlingy/10 Singing has some competition this LP. 30:39- Oh. So that's the meme line. Okay. Time to see how much Gale uses it in this game. [30:56- Oh wow, two in one scene.] 35:31- BigKlingy: WE DID NOTHING! Heat: I'll f^^^ing do it again. 40:32- You claim your name is Angel, but I feel like we're being lectured to by a mainline chaos rep at the moment. In other news, not much at the moment. Wanted to do some MD grinding, but MAN I feel not like doing it. Probably going to be losing a lot of potential gems that I should have gotten Yesterday and today, but oh well. Though it will make grinding in June SUCK since again, that's going to be Duelist Cup Month, i.e Ranked Mode 2 for the event, ruining my most staple grinding spot for MD during that month, and I need to grind from 42/100 to all of it as we only got like two days in July before the current pass will expire. My b^^^hing aside, I'll figure out some way to deal with it. At least for now I'm looking over my decks, fixing some mains, and setting up some potential pet/jank projects and decide what would be worth pursing first.
@BerserkerRohan
@BerserkerRohan 2 месяца назад
It does seem like the demon classifications are going to take some time to get used to. Hopefully you can easily grind Macca while also grinding for Atma points as well. There is also a shop in Persona 1 that is different based on the moon phase as well. It is basically getting ambushed by Ose in Nocturne. Hayagriva is a strange deity since one of his stories involved Vishnu taking this avatar to slay a demon also called Hayagriva. In another story, he would also slay another demon called Madhu. While a zebra in this game, he is normally depicted as a deity with the head of a white horse and if you are wondering, zebras don't live in India. Hayagriva is also in Buddhism but is very different there. It is probably some kind of powerful lullaby in that case. He doesn't comprehend. Also interesting and probably pretty obvious is that Nirvana's symbolism is pretty similar to its meaning in Indian religions. I wish you the best with MD and don't feel too down about not doing the grinding if you aren't having fun with it. As for myself, me and my brother played more TTYD where we basically did our preparations for Chapter 2 by exploring the new area of Rogueport and doing some sidequests as well. My brother also spent a good amount of time with the plane minigame. Next, we shall start taking on Chapter 2. For Gran Turismo 4, I wrapped up the last Special Condition Event for now with the Yosemite Rally 2 Normal and beating these Special Condition Events won us a lot of rally cars and this event was no expectation as we got the Toyota Celica Rally Car. Next, I took on the Type R Meeting and getting my car for this was kind of interesting as I was waiting a long time for a Honda NSX Type R to appear in the Used Car Dealer but recently, one did appear and now it was time to make use of it. It did really well in this event and also drove quite nicely and that won us a Honda HSC Concept Car. My next championship will probably be one of the more badly designed events in the game. Also my brother is still doing well with the things he is focusing on.
@jaredfayette2567
@jaredfayette2567 2 месяца назад
@@BerserkerRohan Probably, though until Klingy gives us a major reason to take note of them, I'm not going to worry about them too much in this game. Atma seems easy to grind if you have a special skill that lets one character get a huge surge of them ASAP if that person needs to grind for something. Macca will probably be harder to grind if it's there's no other method for it than just rushing fights. No, getting ambushed by a Demon with Beast/Dragon eye is its own special hell compared to the usual SMT BS. Trust me... I know from my Nocturne Hard Mode Run... Thanks for the information on Hayagriva. Not sure why they went with a Zebra here for him. Thought maybe the appearance would tied into Buddhism since you said he appeared there too and the looks was a reference to that, but online searches quickly dismiss that idea. Guess the designers wanted an excuse to have a Zebra enemy in the game. I mean it fits; Sera was even cradling him as she sang. Indeed, he doesn't comprehend. Xp Thanks. Yeah, MD grinding sucks. I also don't want to do it and have fun elsewhere, but the catch 22 with that it's also needed to have fun as you need to do those matches to grind gems and points for the pass. And while there's probably some sunk cost fallacy in it, I already paid gems for the Gold Pass so not doing it would be a lost on those gems (which you DO get back as the MD passes always pay out the gems you put in) and the other bonus resources and bonuses (namely the new Dueling Mate and SR/UR points), so I want to at least get that out. Though if does your mind good, I'm just not going to worry about grinding tonight and instead just play tomorrow while I do something else tonight. Good to see the two of you enjoying the remake. Hope Chapter 2 goes well. Also yeah, the Plane Game is interesting. Got the hang of it so I finally make more of a profit than 2 pallor coins per run and got some stuff with it recently. I still need to check out the other mini game though and see if that's worth it. Well done on finishing up the final Special Condition Event. And nice to see it profit you well with a lot of nice Rally Cars. And nice to see the Honda NSX Type R come up at the literal perfect time for you (assuming the Used Car Dealer has a rotating inventory like that one merchant in TTYD that is) to clear the Meeting with ease. Although now I'm worried with how bad we're talking with the upcoming event if it's considered very badly designed. Best of luck with it and hopefully it'll be as painless as possible. Also nice to hear your brother doing well too.
@BerserkerRohan
@BerserkerRohan 2 месяца назад
@@jaredfayette2567 I can see that being the case with grinding but maybe later battles will pay out nicely with Macca. That is on another tier of awful. The design probably would have been too bland without the stripes. Comprehending is something he doesn't do. Nice to hear that you have plan coming up for MD as well. I think the NSX appeared around when I did the Pan Euro Championship. How the Used Car Dealer works is that it changes every week and also follows a 100 day cycle as well but the NSX appears somewhat rarely so I need to check constantly to see if it appeared. I don't think the next event will be hard with how I tackle it but I don't like how it is designed but that will make more sense when I take it on.
@TheJaredPunch
@TheJaredPunch 13 дней назад
29:15 I wish I was Gale here… 30:37 Gale:
@bradleyharris774
@bradleyharris774 2 месяца назад
6:38. I once read someone saying there are two bosses JRPG Fans all fear fighting. The DDS Superboss and Elizabeth from Persona 3 FES. I think both are worthy of that title. 30:35. I was hoping you'd keep a running tally whenever Gale says "I do not comprehend" because it's basically his version of Ryuji's "For Real!". 33:40. Reminds me of the Baby scene in Xenoblade Chronicles 3. 39:54. Stay classy Atlus.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
6:38 Looking forward to getting to Liz in Reload. It's probably easier there, though. 30:35 Yeah, it's a VERY obvious catchphrase. 33:40 I LOVE Eunie's delivery on "You got any BABIES?"
@SomeAsian
@SomeAsian 2 месяца назад
...Did you almost kill the boss in a single turn with a gun?
@galladeforce
@galladeforce 2 месяца назад
15:24 To talk about the idea of Solar Noise, Based on what is said in this video, comsidering that to the player we haven’t been told anything aboit it in universe, Solar Noise on the surface looks to me as a uninspired way to put a new flavour on an old mechanic, Since it changed it from how much we can see of the Moon to just how intense the Sun is emitting solar radiation at that point as something that has an effect on the gameplays, when the two are closely linked in peoples made While not having the basis in real life like the rumour that the Moon has an effect on the human psyche and the fact that demons in folklore will sometimes become more powerful under the film, making demons more powerful and act weirdo, one of those cases where a game series is trying to be different but isn’t really. 17:53 I should note that I actually prefer how SMT V does stat gains for the Nahobino than here and other SMT games, admittedly a lot of SMT games allow you to build the Protagonist into exactly what you want, but like pretty much every case of extreme customisation you can build the character in such a way where it can create issues for you, like ignoring bulk entirely making your MC very frail, trying to make a build but realise you have to pivot later because you found a better skillset, despite having all these skills available they can end not being able to be used at all, making the game harder due to how you allocated everything alongside the opposite idea of breaking the game, Having set stats for the most part apart from one, it means you can create builds but the game can be balanced around a more consistent stat design, you cannot for example neglect either accuracy or bulk, you can possibly use both Physical and Magic to some effect hence not locking out offensive options due to your stat allocation. Albeit with Serf, I actually find the idea that you can allocate his stats to be a bit more puzzling, because unlike the other Protagonists he’s not inherently different form his allies in terms of being, both Heat and Argilla are humans who can turn into demons, and skill wise he’s just as customisable as his allies are. 22:19 I should note that I find the idea of a demon eating Zebra a silly concept since it’s a demon based on a type of real life animal, one that is a herbivore the juxtaposition between the diet of the animal and the diet of the demon is hence just as much funny as it is horrifying. 24:29 While Lex Lang isn’t the first Dr Cortex Voice Actor, but he has become the man who is most associated with the the character in the modern day, since he has been the characters main voice actor since 2004, has played the role more times than anyone else and has both more games as the role, 9 compared to 5-6 Also for some analysis of the games setting based on what we see now, it is post apocalyptic world, one that now as a general rule requires you trample on end devour others for power and otherwise you might lose your sense of self and go berserk. Hence being punished for not following the way where you dominate and eat others. That to me sounds like the kind of world that you would see a character who follows an SMT Chaos philosophy around the aforementioned survival of the fittest would implement if they had a chance to collect a world. Since even people who don’t want to fight or eat others would have to capitulate. But it also has aspects of the story that can work to deconstruct it, Argilla, one of your viewpoint characters and main protagonists is fully against it, showing moral disagreement, showing how it can effect even so what whose used ti battle and fighting, Harley is horrified by it, or the idea that the situation isn’t natural and comes from an outside influence, for comfort to exist out of desperation to save oneself there has to be an incentive not only do the Demon forms of the party come from an explosion from a piece of unknown technology that could have been sent from else, but Angel here has to decry a battle over the Black Haired Girl to incite conflict that wouldn’t be there otherwise.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
17:53 I've seen someone else describe it as a "safety net". 24:29 I still have nostalgia for Clancy Brown, but Lex Lang did a really good job in the remake and Crash 4.
@themis-xis9265
@themis-xis9265 2 месяца назад
REND SLAUTHER DEVOUR YOU ENEMIES Translation: I forgot you were doing a playthrough of DDS I tried playing and stop at the very beginning, emulation troubles 24:26 Knowing the mutants cortex and Brio created Hayagriva would totaly be a mutant
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Well, hi then.
@themis-xis9265
@themis-xis9265 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy Hello I should really get back to watching the p5 playthrough I got caught with school and applying for uni and forgot lmao
@billyhelbert6686
@billyhelbert6686 2 месяца назад
So this just occured to me but are you going to do more SMT games? Like Devil Summoner? Maybe the... I can't remember what it's called... Devil Hacker or something like that?
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
I might do a Devil Survivor game, seeing as it's basically SMT + Fire Emblem. Also Nocturne is on the list for someday. I just find DDS a better starting point.
@billyhelbert6686
@billyhelbert6686 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy Completely understandable. And I can't wait to see those when you get to them!
@smorelion1398
@smorelion1398 2 месяца назад
🦓
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
It's funny how there's a band called Zebrahead and this guy's a literal Zebrahead.
@DiegoG2004
@DiegoG2004 2 месяца назад
Hey, Zebra for... breakfast? Dinner? Is there even a day/night cycle in here or is it just Solar Noise. 1:15 And thus we bonk it out of existance. 1:57 In typical RPG fashion, we know our objective, so we go everywhere but there. 5:28 Budget Maragi. Works. 7:42 Weaken them so they inflict themselves with perfect catch rate, then slice em in half for more exp. Truly an edgy Pokemon. 11:27 There we go, that's the first eat pun. This is a Digital Devil Saga playlist now. 12:18 And also Argila hasn't even started on her ??? since she doesn't want to eat. Which may lead to a very funny scene in this very video. 21:14 Heat learnt Personality! ...by being a simp for "Naked Girl" 22:41 Physical attacks include Guns but don't include Hunt skills. 25:54 Bosses must be shared. How nice. 28:00 Oh dear she's glowing. 28:05 Oh dear he's a demon now. 28:40 Not to worry, Naked Girl is here. Except she thankfully has clothes now. 30:23 So uh, one of Gale's pastimes is Ace Attorney. Just going to... throw that out there. 30:38 Ah we're doing the Ryuji funny redux. Got it. Doesn't seem to combo into Sera's "I'm sorry", though. 31:42 Ain't that convenient, it *just* got mentioned. 34:43 Also, depending of where you look up DDS, this place might also be where tribe leaders pay their taxes. 35:00 Yes, animal. That's as far as you need to know, Serph. (What, I'm a dog person) 35:41 And Cielo's is...? 37:42 Are we meant to ignore the fact that whatever that thing is has upside down human top halves? Yeah? Okay, just checking. 38:04 Whoever that guy is just learnt Personality, I'm sure he won't be relevant for a while. 39:15 This is probably the strongest being to have the name Angel in Shin Megami Tensei. Angel is a low level demon most of the time so... 39:54 I guess someone was bound to have it on their butt. Gonna run out of spots very fast with all these people. 39:59 There's the line again. Now with its context. 40:57 Thank goodness black hair is rare here, else that would not narrow it down very well. Also i guess she's a win condition now. 41:25 Angel certainly did not like that question. Next time, what all this demon eating is actually good for.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
5:28 We'll get the real budget Maragi soon. 22:41 Actually Gun is a separate element too. 35:41 Rainbow Arch, but we haven't seen him in action yet.
@DiegoG2004
@DiegoG2004 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy 22:41 And just like in P5, if it flies it's weak to Gun. 35:41 Fair enough.
@catharsisCatalyst
@catharsisCatalyst 2 месяца назад
28:20 least homoerotic Heat / Gale moment. I really like the song even if the flow of the lyrics feel a bit stilted. And I REALLY adore all the leader designs, too, even if the upside-down computer women are kinda silly lol. Again, this game has absolutely top-notch characters, probably Kaneko's best imo.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
28:20 I never saw anything between Heat and Gale, but Heat and Serph's subtext is practically canon. I'm going to mention this later, but the song is very classic 2000's dubbing, where they transliterate the lyrics and try and fit them to the music as best they can. It's... OKAY, but you can tell some parts are forced.
@cameronmclean6804
@cameronmclean6804 2 месяца назад
So devour skills are Physical almighty skills
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
Minus the unique properties with Freeze. Also, there's an actual physical Almighty skill as an endgame one.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 2 месяца назад
Nope. Hunt skills are not Almighty
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Yeah it's a lot like the self-destruction element in Nocturne. It's not physical or Almighty, but it scales off of Strength.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 2 месяца назад
@@BigKlingy Quick fun fact - you can cheese Metatron by using Null Phys + either Void/Drain Fire or Null Element (or Null Attack over both of these) and just doing nothing until Metatron runs out of MP
@corpussakahagi2116
@corpussakahagi2116 2 месяца назад
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 I think that bosses in this game have infinite MP. MP Thief (this game's equivalent to Mana Drain/Spirit Drain) is also a mute-based ailment skill and most bosses are immune to ailments. Another thing to keep in mind is that bosses cannot be devoured.
@B_A-tr
@B_A-tr 2 месяца назад
Wait, zebras dont even live in india? 8:31 arent pretas eternally hungry? 30:37 he said the thing 38:20 this definitly isnt creepy as hell. 38:50 i guess he does not comprehend either. 40:15 i just wanna mention the circle from the logo is there
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
8:31 Yes. Again, perfect first dungeon enemy.
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 2 месяца назад
21:15 bro maybe you just find her pretty/attractive 21:44 In this world, it killed or be killed....wait wrong game. Slightly unrelated flowey is actually one of my favorite villains in vide games. he go to be a loved to hate, but has his pity moments. Also the way he does 4th wall breaking is genuine unnerving at times. shame how he and the dremmurr are that focus in alot of fan work despite them being really important to the story and the themes 28:30 classic trope of the madien singing to clam someone who goes bersker. 29:30 hi fukka spin off voice actor.
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy 2 месяца назад
21:15 That's the thing... Heat DOES, but he doesn't understand what that is, or what it means.
@blazethegamerreacts1543
@blazethegamerreacts1543 2 месяца назад
Demon Consuming? what of Tree Frogs?
@MongoIndyleo
@MongoIndyleo Месяц назад
Wow I didn't expect the game to go THIS hard on the Hindu themes but wow that temple that totally won't be the final dungeon couldn't be more Hindu if it tried haha
@BigKlingy
@BigKlingy Месяц назад
Yeah it's... pretty unsubtle in a lot of ways.
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