From what I've heard the Internet, that would make Hama spells and Seraph Lore free turns, along with making Marin Karin's effects minimal due to not risking healing her. At that point, the only "threat" is Whirlwind.
Wow Steve Blum’s a surprisingly good singer. Sure, he’s just going “lalala” but he accompanied Wendee Lee well. Speaking of which, I also like that the melody of Sera’s song is used for Ginana’s death scene. Really hammers home the tragedy here, especially since Ginana only understood emotions in the final seconds of her life
Yeah Jinana feeling true emotions only moments before her death is truly a sad experience and it is fitting that the people of the junkyard are awakening both good and bad emotion. Also Heat has no chill in saying that shit to Argilla. Feeding time is defenetly one of the top quotes from.generic enemies
3:23 Jerkass has a Point. 14:12 If only Xenoblade 1 Skills/Skill Trees worked like this, then we wouldn't need one or two New Game Plus runs to get them all. 17:19 You know, I expected someone with a nickname like "The Slug" to look like a total wimp. 17:37 I respect her for refusing cannibalism, and even more for pushing Argilla away before she loses control! 18:29 Is that necklace supposed to be Heat's demon form? 19:15 Can she sense what's going on with Jinana? 33:57 Jinana got her eye-awakening a little late, but she had scruples from the start. 35:08 True, but they didn't know Bat was untrustworthy; they just met him.
3:23 Heat has a lot of that. 14:12 Don't some of them only unlock after VERY late-game quests against Lv 90s enemies? 17:19 Nah, this guy's pretty tough. 35:08 True, and he only "awakened" AFTER they spared him. That's a good point.
@@BigKlingy 14:12 Yep, and because monsters give pitiful amounts of SP, getting SP from rediscovering Landmarks in New Game Plus is significantly easier and faster.
The pendant on the cat's collar is something that is not explained until the very end of the second game. I will tell you it is *not* meant to represent Heat's atma specifially, it just looks similar.
35:10 I feel like besides Argilla’s argument Bat at the time was the second strongest of the Maribel so killing him would just weaken their newest ally.
3:17 Who knew that Yosuke later became a member of the Solids. 3:51 Since this game give every party member a small set of bad affinities that you can only change through skills, hence I don’t think any party members in this game can be weak to Earth in this game, based on what I know it’s Fire, Ice, Wind, Elec and Ailments. 5:07 Considering that Turdak has a 3D Model here it seems like a demom that could have been used in Persona 3 or 4, While from what I can tell 3 only really uses demons who got 3D models, new designs of where introduced in Noctrune rather and doesn’t use Digital Devil Sage demons. But it was something available to Altus during the PS2 era, but we had to instead wait for Persona Q for its big debut in Persona, comsidering it’s an optional personal you have to get from a siewuest that involves fighting Elizabeth, which has its own dialogue associated with it and she uses it during the fight, hence giving Turdak some significance by proxy. 6:12 Why would a demon who is a living skeleton be able to be effected by Poison, they don’t have anything that would effected by poisons so anything they should be immune. 10:31 Talking about Drop me nots, While I’m nit as annoyed by the drop system as others, especially since you make it last a long time but I disliked that you had to have Drop Me Nots in your Command Zeke , when their only useful for when your low on the drop gauge and rearranging your command deck resets every Commands timer, disincentivising going back into battle. 21:25 I should note about the Taunt strategy is by default playing with Fire in some regards, looking it up most required bosses from here on out use Physical skills in some regards, how dangerous it is to will depend on the boss and how reliant they are on physical skills but most do have them. 21:30, Despite the idea that Magic is so powerful in this game the 2nd and 3rd end of dungeon bosses encourage using Physical attacks as your main form of damage. And considering how I’ve seen players of SMT and Persona focusing on how well a character deals with bosses as the totality of how useful they are, but based on the early game more bosses make a Magic focused Serf weaker 22:20 A note about Usas design is that Usas is often described as a beautiful woman, while this design has both demonic features, like an incredibly large mouth or has design aspects that make her look silly and gaudy, like the bright red and green checker pattern pattern design, or the fact that her legs and torso look like parachute pants and the rings on her torso make her look like a clown. But of note, something I realise about DDS is that the demonic forms of the party and bosses while humanoid definitely are designed as if they where monsters, for example Heat has two featureless almost dinosaur like heads and crusted armour, Serf has sharp teeth and no eyes because his crow is embedded in his body…. Even in cases the demonic forms could be more humanoid if they wanted to do so, especially since a lot of the demon forms are based on gods who tend to be very human looking. 35:02 An issue I see with idea that Bat should have been killed is that like most cases where people say X should have done Y it’s going to be based on the idea that we know through hindsight that letting him live allowed him to betray us and that he is opportunistic and power hungry, The Embyron don’t know what Bat was like, where his loyalties where and hence him betraying them wasn’t sometime that anyone would have thought up as a possibility, hence no need to kill him either for pragmatic reasons, he’s a powerful ally in the fight against the Solids and in cases like Argilla her own morals. I do however think that Bat not dying back there was influenced by how they wanted based on how they would use him in the plot later, he has to still be around so that he can betray you and later serve an antagonist role. Because the main cast has been shown willing to kill and have killed before, hence they have to invent justification for it, which they do on Argilla’s end, Bat being killed isn’t needed for their goals in that instance and hence they don’t need to kill him, defeating the Vanguards by default would involve killing Harvey hence why that happened. But Bat being killed and eaten also doesn’t seem to be treated as something that would have a negative effect, Jinana’s reaction to the others stopping Heat isn’t her downright agreeing with Argilla on a moral level, merely saying that that would be what normally happens. In other pieces of media, even ones that like this use the “fight me to prove yourself worthy” plot point would portray murdering a member of a group your allying with as something that would break considerations of alliance. So there would be a pragmatic reason to not kill him. Which leads to a discussion in regards to how Jinanan and too a degree Argilla is written, Since eating members of the Maribel is never acknowledged in story it can be chalked up to gameplay and story segregation, But before this point we don’t know that Jinana like Argilla has moral misgivings with eating the demons, and the scenes that address it don’t show her having any particular issue with it. Itaccidental give the implication that Jinana is herself against eating Demons, but doesn’t have any issue with the members of her Tribe doing so since we aren’t shown that her trying to rein in her troops from doing so. Which is something I find weird to be honest based on how I see both characters and real people with strong beliefs around the morality of an action, not only acting said way but encouraging it in others as the moral way to do things, trying to create rules that discourage that behaviour if they are in control of something and calling out others for doing so, Jinana seems to be even more against eating demoms than Argilla is, Argilla is shown to not like it, and will try to stop it if it’s needless or in this case a friend who just died, but Jinana doesn’t eat demons period , she would likely be surrounded by people who have no issues with eating demons based on how most of the cast is portrayed. Which would make the conflict come up often.
3:35 feeding time 19:00 "no, go back to metaphorical sleep" 34:17 why did it cut away!? The Usas fight in a nutshell: "BigKlingy NO" "BigKlingy YES" *Enraged! (Weakened defense drastically)*
The Lesson of The Day: DO NOT TAUNT BOSSES UNLESS YOU HAVE DEKAJA!!! 0:30. Descending further down into the Dismal Depths of the Deadly Dungeon. 19:23. Jinana has a really bad case of the Munchies. Lucky for her there are 3 tasty-looking snacks within arms reach. 22:33. Maybe if Usas' design hinted more towards her affinity to Expel/Light, then it would be better. If I was playing this game for the first time, I'd have not idea she specializes in Expel. I would assume she specializes in Fire and Force because of the red and green. 32:08. Much to Heat's disappointment/annoyance.
You can get Dekaja as a combo skill via any two debuffs. I might try that at some point. Also, this game's superboss uses the Taunt + Dekaja combo on you, lol. 22:33 Agreed, it seems weird she's an Expel user.
33:41 Something interesting about the Japanese version of this scene, Jinana refers to herself in third-person, in fact she refers to herself in third-person for all of the voiced cutscenes.
When someone gets a bad feeling, always listen to it. Thanks a lot, Bat. Turdak's a pretty simple design, just a dual-wielding skeleton, but I like it. He reminds me of classic Yugioh monsters for some reason. 8:03 ...WELL THEN. So Jinana didn't eat anyone... no wonder she and Argilla connected so well. Usas is definitely an odd design for sure. Pretty interesting that they can pull off a combo attack of their own, though. They didn't spend much time together, but man, Jinana and Argilla really connected. Also, Heat, your timing is horrendous.
Getting a bad feeling. Still better than characters saying "IT'S NOTHING!" I think Turdak is in Persona Q, but not any of the main games. There's actually a few enemy combo attacks, though some are kind of rare.
I have finally discovered the power of screeen recordings. Downside’s needing to turn off notifications to avoid unwanted interruptions. Edit: on topic of this game, I really wish Crispin Freeman (Heat’s voice actor) was in Persona with his character Persona being Alucard (a character he voices in Hellsing). I think Laura Bailey speaks in a German accent in that show.
1:28 Remember this room for later as it will serve as an entrance to an optional area. One thing that the game does not tell you is that whenever someone leaves the party, when they come back, they will have mastered any unmastered mantra that they had equipped.
0:37 Interestingly enough, actual slugs do in fact live underground. Sure, it's probably just a coincidence since Mick's nickname is different in Japanese, but it's still cool. 1:29 So it's basically just Sky FC and SC. 2:25 Ehh, you know what they say, there's no kill like overkill! 3:09 Hi, Yuri Lowenthal. 3:14 Of course, out of every single possible emotion, Bat's just had to be Chronic Backstabbing Disorder! 8:09 Yeah, that'd make sense. 8:36 Task failed successfully. 10:00 Well, f*ck. 10:29 If only this game had some sort of turbo mode, that would make this so much more bearable. 17:11 It seems this was a bloodbath... f*ck you, Bat. 19:02 That was cool, how Gale's eyes temporarily gained colour, but then went back to being gray, showing how in that moment, he was feeling emotions. 19:31 And now, we have to put her down... again, f*ck you, Bat. 22:39 I'm guessing this "later" is going to come sooner than you think. 23:10 Yep, Unicorn has Dekunda, there go the debuffs. 31:57 That was a fitting way to end the fight. 34:02 On one hand, I now ship this, on the other hand, that just makes this even more tragic. 34:16 HEAT, NO. 34:51 Oh hi, Traitor McBackstabber! 35:32 Who are you and what have you done with BigKlingy?
3:09 Yeah, definitely Yuri Lowenthall here. He's also Serph but only in grunts. 19:02 He came CLOSE to awakening, but not quite. Hm. 34:02 That feel when you only start shipping something when one half of the pair dies... 34:16 SLAP. 34:51 This guy's like Naesala, except with no redeeming qualities.
3:18 Yeah with the combination of my friend calling Bat annoying, the cutscene after the battle, and how his demon form was not Vedic or Hindu, I had a feeling something was going to be done with him. I didn't expect this soon. 9:20 Hey you always need back ups 18:26 Cat! At first I thought the metal parts on the cat's collar looked like Agni's mouth heads but on rewatch, they kinda look like the symbol for the devour skills. Taunt reminds of Swagger in Pokémon. They do have a similar idea. 32:19 Magic is still growing! 33:21 Jinana has a tear marking on her face, and her death caused Argilla to start crying. I feel like that has to be intentional from a design perspective 34:16 I had a feeling Heat was gonna say something like that
3:18 They don't waste much time with this story. Bat's revealed as a traitorous a-hole pretty much instantly. 18:36 Taunt kind of IS Swagger, though minus the confusion. 33:21 Yeah that tattoo was pretty unsubtle.
Another design aspect I just realized about Bat's demon form. It has eyes when the party's forms don't I don't think Harley or Jinana's forms do either. Usas does have something resembling eyes in concept art but their more small compared to the big ones on Camazotz
1:30- Ah, so like Golden Sun's first two games and Sky FC & SC. Noted. 3:14- On one hand, not surprised Bat would rat us out, but on the other, MAN he utterly hates us if he already pulled the betrayal card on us. You'd think that would at least come in the next arc or two. 7:05- The frikin disrespect. 8:11- The fact he is on there implies a lot more than just outing his leader for the stuff he's going to do here... 10:25- It's mystic chests all over again. 12:07- Okay, they decided to be a lot harsher with chakra drops in this game compared to Nocturne. Think it was % based for the amount recovered and was A LOT cheaper to buy (3K here versus the 600 or 1.8K depending on the mode you're playing on). At least we can buy them. *Glares at SMT IV* 14:08- That's concerning... Both for the fact we'll be down a member AND more importantly, I'm not sure if we can trust Heat unsupervised given he's a lot more kill and eat people-happy than everyone else. 19:02- Have we've seen characters flicker back and forth between having emotions and not before like what just happened there? 22:40- Oh no. How badly does this remark age Klingy? (24:08- Dang, not even two minutes before you were proven wrong.) 34:19- If Argillia wasn't going to, I probably would have slapped him for saying that at the worst possible time. 35:27- You know this world is effed up if even *KLINGY* of all people is calling for violence. 36:11- Which really sucks. Why is it always the more understandable characters who die first? In other news, decided to do what I said last time and decided to go into the Pit in TTYD and clear it out entirely. After the more boring floors, made it to a point where I was finally starting to get some actual challenge from the game and even had to use up my first Life Shroom due to how stronger the later enemies were. And the boss at the end of it was certainly more than I bargained for, especially given I didn't have Feeling Fine Equipped on anyone, but I pulled through eventually. Flurrie was the MVP since her Dodgey Fog was absolutely a difference maker and healing became less of an issue when she was getting back 11ish HP back after a Power Lift. Also without meaning to, I inadvertently got all of the stylish commands for the hammer during the slow mo of the finisher, which was hilariously met by the double exp boost (for a boss that only gives ONE star point). With the Pit done in one try, I'm going to settle another loose end with the recipes. Thankfully it's going by faster than I expected as I'm at 51/58 at the moment. Just need to go run about for the last things that I need (though on that note, this, has made me realized how (even disregarding my rush to get everything I missed), how much of a hassle cooking is in this game compared to 64 since there's a lot more specific recipes and harder to obtained ingredients as well. A bit of a complaint if I can air it). But given how much faster that's been going, I have some free time to goof around before the final area, so might just mess around with some easier fights elsewhere... Although I just realized I never did find that Amayzee Dazee, even with the Pit (though I probably skipped its flowers as I got the Mover at almost near perfect spot to the end at 94), so that might put me back on my projected schedule time wise depending on how much of a prick it wants to be to show up.
A lot of the Trails series does feel like that. Bat seems like he doesn't want to mess around. Just Heat being Heat. They were also pretty cheap to buy in Persona 1 as well so you were generally pretty good on MP especially on Normal when MP recovers while you walk. My guess is that he probably won't be on his own so hopefully that other person can supervise him well. I think it is the first time we are seeing that. I remember Usas because they were in Persona 1 as a pretty solid Priestess Persona and I made a joke about their name for one of my thumbnails as well. I also remember Usas since this fight is really difficult if you are just Serph on your own. Heat kind of deserved that. Killing Bat earlier would have solved a lot of problems. Good work beating the Pit considering it probably took me multiple attempts to get through it all those years ago when I first beat it myself. There are all sorts of nasty enemies down below either because they hit really hard, have lots of HP or both so getting past them will either need a really good badge setup or using lots of FP. Interesting to hear that evasion was your key to victory against the final opponent as well since you can stack evasion but it multiples the value. Good to hear that most of the recipes are also done as well although it is a shame that a lot of those recipes couldn't have helped you in the Pit. If you want to run into an Amazee Dayzee, keep going back and forth through the Twilight Trail, specifically the forest area where you run into the Crayzee Dayzees since I haven't seen one spawn in the area before that forest with the Hyper Goombas roaming around. Eventually it will show up and I believe you probably have many methods to try and kill one. As for myself, the F1 video uploaded today and that was the first video with my new headset but since then, I think I figured out some good settings during the video I recorded today so we shall see how that goes when I edit that video and hopefully I will be close to finalising my settings for my next playthrough. As for Gran Turismo 4, all I did was test my car of choice for the next endurance which will be the Laguna Seca 200 miles which should be another roughly 2 hour endurance if I am remembering correctly. My car of choice will be the Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept to match the theming of my opponents using American cars and the testing showed the car has good promise so it shouldn't prove a difficult event. For TTYD, we just did a lot of cooking but I believe we will be starting Chapter 5 next time. I should have mentioned this last time but I found a new manga series to read and I am enjoying it more than I expected since it is kind of a pseudo horror story but it has proved a very gripping story.
@@BerserkerRohan I guess when I think about it. Though Sky FC and SC are probably the most "too big for one game" pair. Yeah, Bat's letting the hate through through him. Interesting to hear how much MP recovery there is in P1. Let's REALLY hope that's the case and Heat isn't going alone anywhere. Also interesting hearing about another demon from a really old school game being brought back for this game. Absolutely he deserved it. True, but that's the unfortunate thing for our characters just learning how to have emotions and different feelings; Need to learn the best time to act on them and when to make tougher calls. Many thanks. Yeah, I was REALLY surprised by how many 15+ HP enemies there were down there and just how hard later groups hit. It was more of an improve move to do the evasion stuff since I didn't have as much healing by then and Koop's Shell Shield kept getting destroyed quickly. Know how powerful dodge Strats can be when stacked, but this was just me pulling out anything that could improve my longevity. And thankfully, the improve worked and pretty sure if one or two of those misses didn't happened, the fight would have ended poorly for me. If it's any consolation on the recipes, I did have some good items that I cooked that did help me in that final fight in the Pit. Also no need to worry for the recipes or Dayzee as I got done both tasks between the time of my first comment and this reply; Got lucky with the latter as I thought I was going to be there way longer. As for the fight itself, wasn't afraid of sleep because of feeling fine, but the damage from it was mean. Though thankfully I had more than enough DPS to end it after that blow. With that done and some other BSery, just got one more thing I want to check on before I dive into the Final Chapter. Ah, right the test video. As I'm writing these last few parts, I'm listening to it right now. Others have already pointed it out in the comments for it, but you do sound more muffled/compressed compared to the previous mic. But other than that, the head set seems to work without any other issuesand I hope it's just a matter of messing with those settings to get what you want. Here's hoping the new settings you're testing resolves that one flaw before you're all good again with them. Nice hearing that the testing for the next even in GT4 is going well. And fun to see the extra bonus of your way of beating the next event is also a matching theme too; Always fun when you can line things up like that in games. I'd say good luck for the next event, but it seems like you're already in a great spot for it. Also good work you two for TTYD on your end as well. I'm sure that Chapter 5 will be a breeze for you both. Good to hear you found a new read that's already proving to be a great read. I need to get back to reading more. Might be tempted to continue reading the Yugioh Magna after I read the first three volumes in a 3 in 1 collection from Christmas if I can find a good spot to store them after reading them.
@@jaredfayette2567 Cold Steel 1 and 2 feel that way for me as well. He is probably the guy we least wanted to get emotions. It did look really different in Persona 1 since it had this voodoo doll like design in that game. That is one interesting thing about this story. The Wizzerds are probably the worst due to their high defence in addition to everything else but aside from them, there is all sorts of nasty stuff done there. Probably the safest way to keep yourself safe is a Double Dip Boo Sheet which is something my brother did a decent amount last playthrough since he was using danger strats and those gave him extra insurance. At least in your case, evasion really worked out. Good to hear the Amazee Dayzee wasn't a problem for you either. Luckily, I think I have figured out how to make it sound less muffled and I think I have almost figured out the perfect settings too so hopefully I will be fully content next time I record. I always like to try and match my opponents whenever it is possible for me. The only thing now is once again finding the time to do the endurance which might not be this weekend but I guess we shall see. I am looking forward to Chapter 5 as well but that was too be expected. I will probably reveal the name once I do finish reading it.
Heat continues being awesome. 0:33 Completely skipping the ground floor as those don't exist in this language setting. 1:57 Weak to halving their HP? 2:23 You could do Taunt -> Taunt -> Dekaja to reach -4 defense in 3 actions with no +4 attack. Let's just say we might be seeing that strategy later... 3:11 God dammit Bat! 6:10 That didn't say weakness, i feel robbed. 11:16 Behold the spinning Serph, you'll be seeing him a lot. 17:03 Gigantic boss door 17:24 *yeet!* I'm noticing these people really like yeeting each other. 19:00 Gale tries to learn Personality but opts not to. For now. 19:39 Meanwhile Mick learnt Personality. And it's apparently evil laughs. 33:52 Jinana learns Personality... though we don't have much time to see what that entails. 34:16 The slap was so powerful we needed to move the camera away.
Darn.. It was all a trap.. Losing a leader to be leaving herself open to the enemy leader while Serph & 2 to be lured there till they realized it was a trap.. (Damn it that guy from earlier who shouldn't & Heat has a point of well just killing him off. I had a feeling he has ill intention..) The man tho who attacks Jinana.. Yeah.. Must be another time to face him later.. ??.. Uh oh.. Not good. (The song from the other end.. Her humming.. Gale's memory.. Huh.) Jinana... So she too was like Argilla yet meets her own end.. (The fight can be a joke but it gets tougher so prepare the worst...) After that, Jinana?... Mm... That's tragic.. Aww.. Argilla to her as a comrade (or a friend..) Yeah.. It seems was inevitable for her BC.. she knew the risk if she loses her way.. & Heat.. Ouch.. (Argilla is serious.. I agree with that..) ??... That thing.. That's bad news they were being watched..
As much as Heat was right i agree he had that slap coming. I hope Bat gets comeuppanced big time. RIP Jinana. I also cannot wait to see 10 slots at level 30. These characters are gonna be broken
I disagree. He had a point, And correct me if I'm wrong, But did he awaken to his emotions? Doesn't seem like it. He thinks in a pragmatic way. Besides, A simple slap, A simple word, can sometimes break and destroy everything. God, Atlus and their writers sometimes piss me off...
well gonna be of having Sonic Frontiers on my switch finally of it being on sale on the Eshop and a good one at that, to give me another Sonic Game other then just Sonic Mania
Is it possible to get petrify skills this early in the game? You could cheese the fight by stoning the two unicorns, preventing them from doing anything but also preventing her from summoning more. Same strategy as white rider kinda.
Stone Gaze is on the Evil Spirit Mantra, which requires mastering the first Death one, and costs 25000 Macca. I think it's theoretically possible to have it by this point, but it might take some grinding. It's something I could test one day. (Or in New Game+, where you keep all your mastered Mantras)
@@BigKlingy Cool! By the way, I can't find any easy access to the JP text, but I heard that the "stone" ailment is actually "rock salt" in the Japanese version (or at least more closely implied than in English), which has some biblical implications that might make sense later in the duology.
@@BigKlingy Yeah again it's just something I heard second hand, but apparently SMT5 Vengeance also has "saltification" as a thing according to pre-release coverage.
@@BigKlingy While having this conversation I also discovered that one of the tracks in the DDS2 soundtrack is called "Road to Sodom" which, well, that does kind of support it haha
Hi BK, long time viewer, but don't post much, but I have to echo the others: Remove Taunt now. Sorry, I don't mean to be harsh but it's just so odd to see you tiptoe around the dungeon for statues, but then you fight too aggressively, almost past the the point of carelessness. I've loved all your Persona LP's though and would love too see more mainline SMT on your channel. I'll definitely keep watching this one because I have yet to play it myself. I guess I'm one of those dreamers always hoping of a remaster or remake of the duology at this point. I'm still on a grindfest in Tartarus (P3R).
I make MUCH better use of Taunt against the next boss, don't worry. So the thing with this fight was, I was actually afraid of making it look too easy, so I held back. Holding back made it summon more Unicorns, and Dekunda ruined me. In my practice run I killed her before she summoned any, and for such a dramatic story moment I wanted to avoid that happening. The next major boss went FAR smoother without being a complete joke.
Heat has a point tho. We should devour who we can, Not only to get stronger, But to prevent our enemies from getting stronger. Also, Why did she resort to slapping him? I swear, Atlus and their writing sometimes piss me off. What, Physical violence against males is ok?!
First of all, under normal circumstances, I wouldn’t be ok with a girl beating up a boy because they can. But unlike with Persona, this wasn’t meant to be played for laughs. Second of all, even if there is logic behind devouring Jinana, Argilla is the one most opposed to the devouring system out of all of the team. Argilla would never willingly do, and especially not to someone so precious to her. On top of Heat’s poor timing, it’s no wonder Argilla slapped him.
For Blue Lions it would probably be Dimitri and possibly Felix since they do great damage early on, Dedue, Sylvain and Annette I'll say are behind them due to their personal skills.
I'm not the biggest authority on 3H gameplay, but Felix's personal skill adds decent damage early on via lacking a battalion (but late-game, battalions far outweigh its benefits). Dimitri's also amazing. Ingrid is apparently a lot weaker on Blue Lions than when recruited out-of-house due to Pegasus Knight having absurd NPC stat scaling. Byleth is also really good obviously.
