@@SamGaleFilms yep, it even says in the script: "He calms down. He switches between being the old sweet Nic, and this unreasonable junkie." Not to say that Timothèe didn't do a great job but he definitely didn't have to look hard for inspiration.
Geraldine Ports same omg. I got this insane sense of dejavu when nic was asking his dad for money and the dialogue about needing it for turning his life around bc things were changing for him. Ended up calling my mom afterwards and told her to watch it bc this was my younger brother calling me in the middle of the night. Or reappearing weeks after not talking or keeping in touch.
@@MindTardis Yes, the dejavu was so strong. I didn't think to use that word but that's what it is. I'm watching a scene that I've already lived through. I hope your brother is doing ok. And you. It's amazing the impact addiction has on every person involved.
uhoh stinky - My brother relapsed again, but it’s yet to get as bad as it was the last time he relapsed. We’re trying our best to help him. I don’t know about @MindTardis ‘s brother, i hope he is doing ok
One of his best. He acts incredibly here!!!! He really transmits the suffering and struggle addicts unfortunately go through. I was so surprised to see him in that role
This scene always hits so hard, especially when he says “why don’t we just get some food” and the look on his face of utter disappointment and sadness is so heartbreaking to watch and then he says “say goodbye at least” and the feeling continues. This scene never fails to make my heart drop
It’s my first time watching scenes from this movie and I’ve never gotten such a feeling from the first time. It’s so underrated. I can just tell from the fact that I’ve never heard of it before I’m gonna buy the movie rn omg
This line hit me so hard. It’s like we spend our who lives trying to make our parents proud of us. There’s nothing worse than being a disappointment to them. Nic must have felt so hopeless in this scene, must have felt like some sort of monster his parents were just unable to comprehend, further isolating himself more.
Dude, but let’s also talk about how wonderful Steve Carell’s job was at portraying Nic’s heartbroken father. He held his own in this scene and really contributed an emotional and meaningful performance.
it hurts because here the dad was begging nic to come home and stay with him, and towards the end nic was begging his dad to stay with him, but he couldn’t let him because he hurt him so many times before
I don’t think he wouldn’t let him exactly because he hurt him too many times, more of he knew if he let him back in, if would make it easier for nic to relapse. He knows in order for nic to get better, he has to know when and want to get better himself. He knew he could no longer try to help him, and that he had to go through the denial of his own father to learn.
Dudes still tweaking, Timothee does a great job the way he avoids eye contact and randomly picks the fork up and is moving around. He went there with one goal in mind: get a few hundred bucks. Once that wasn’t gonna happen it was over
Timothee deserved an Oscar for this, more than anyone else. And Steve at least deserved a nomination. This scene alone is so powerful, so heartbreaking. It is hence, another proof of the immense amount of talent that they bear, but since, this wasn't a showy and glamorous film, even the thought of nominating it for an Oscar made the Academy nauseous. All they care about nowadays, is making political statement, not honoring TRUE, MEANINGFUL ART. P.S- at 3:23 the way he grits his teeth... The way he just expresses everything... Mind blown... Literally.
@@Bimfirestarter Of course they don't get handed the nomination. That wasn't even my point. But do you really think even the ones who receive an Oscar or an Emmy are always the ones who deserve it the most in their categories? As for submission, was First Man not submitted for nominations? Timothee's performance was submitted for a nomination by the way. Why wouldn't he be? He had received Golden Globe, SAG and BAFTA nominations, of course the filmmakers thought he must have a chance at winning.
The movie wasn't very good. It had a problem with being cliche and boring. There were scenes like this that were interesting but the whole of the film wasn't great.
My ex died of an overdose and was a severe alcoholic. Never understood addiction and thought some people could just quit....they can’t. It’s in their blood and who they are. He was always meant to die, some addicts just can’t be saved. Never believed it or understood it until I actually met him, rehab can’t even work for some people. They always go back to it.
I just turned 33 and I’ve been an alcoholic longer than I’d like to admit, but recently became aware of the fact that I’m an alcoholic. Before, I’d brush it off or justify my drinking by telling myself it was a phase or I’d eventually grow out of it. But I didn’t, and I just drink more now. It’s usually vodka, or high % beers, but it’s no longer social drinking or going out to drink. And it becomes a cycle. You feel sick from drinking, so you drink to feel better. Anyway idk what my point was. My dad was an alcoholic too, and did drugs, and he spent time in rehab when I was about 16 when I needed him the most, son and a single father. Fucked up shit. Idk when or if I’ll ever get the help I need but so far all I can think about is the appropriate time to start drinking and which store I’m going to go to today… because you have to cycle thru locations to avoid judgment of frequency. Addiction sucks.
the more i see timothee's acting, the more i am amazed by it. like, his acting is sometimes so detailed and subtle you won't recognize it at first, but the more you see it, the more you see the things you missed. his acting is so real and raw it's crazy. it's like the character he portrays is real, undeniably real on screen.
Yeah the details always really impress me on subsequent viewings! Like he’s very natural, so when you’re just watching the film you just see a character, but if you pay attention to what he’s actually doing there’s so much going on!
I was blown away with how he portrayed an addict this whole movie. Felt like I was watching a playback of my own life interactions. The subtleties that he brought out were crazy good for someone who hasn’t been through it themselves.
I’m a recovering alcoholic and I’ve had so many conversations like this with my dad in this setting. This movie hits so hard. My dad refuses to watch it
Steve Carrell in this film reminds me so much of my own dad. The hair, the facial hair, the grey, his physique, everything. Made his words so much more impactful for me as I’m struggling too, and it really felt like my dad was communicating to me.
this scene reminds me of that one scene in the basketball diaries with jim (Leonardo DiCaprio) when visits his mom and asks for money and she’s like heartbroken and she just turns him away
Another interesting aspect of this conversation is the clear signs of life long depression and resentments that his father is only acknowledging because he is an addict.
i absolutely love both of them. they were both amazing in this movie. i’m use to seeing timothée do more serious roles so i wasn’t surprised to see how well he pulled off this role but i was shocked over steve’s performance since i’m so use to seeing him do comedy roles. this movie was just amazing wow
it's unbelievable how accurate they portrayed this relationship, a troubled son and a dad who just wants to do better. way too relatable to my life and it hit deep. great work
Timothee Chalamet is the new James Dean Marlon Brando and Montgomery Clift with touches of River Phoenix and Leonardo DiCaprio. He has that tremendous range and talent as an actor right up there with all of them. He has that Old Hollywood talent. I predict he will win an Oscar before he's 30. Also check out his death of a salesman speech in Miss Stevens movie and when he declares his love for Jo in Little Women, it's very James Dean!!!
Timothy should have won an Oscar for just this scene. It's just soooooo very accurate. Anybody who has ever had an addict in their immediate or intermediate family will testify to the perfection of Steve Carell and Timothee's role in this film. It gets me every time
I know Steve Carrell is known for his comedy rolls and rightfully so, but the man deserves credit as an actor in general. He’s great in every serious role he’s casted in. This movie, The Big Short, The Morning Show, Foxcatcher, etc. The man deserves his flowers as a serious actor as well
I had a friend who struggled bad with addiction and this scene couldn’t be more accurate. The little quirks, mannerisms, sudden outbursts, etc. It’s really sad. Timothee was robbed of an Oscar.
My mother had recently gone through serious addiction and substance abuse issues. When I saw this, it hit pretty hard. Timothee did a great fucking job
The facial expression at 2:10 sealed this entire scene, possibly even this entire movie for me. Perfectly captures Nick's meek nature and genuine desire (but struggle) to do the "right" thing
As an addict myself, this scene is really hard to watch and seriously makes me cringe super hard because I've done Shit that's very similar to this to friends & family members. Constantly hitting up friends coming up with all sorts of reasons I need to borrow money. "Hey man my car is broken and I don't get paid until tomorrow. Could I borrow the amount I'm short to get it fixed and I'll pay you back tomorrow?" Or "Hey dude I'm kinda stranded right now. Could I possibly have $40 so I can get an Uber home and I'll pay you right back?". Of course I never paid any of them back and ended up owing up 5 different friends about $1800. It's really such a miserable way to live life. The second your eyes open in the morning, you're already stressing out, and scrambling trying to hustle up money otherwise you'll get sick. Anyone who's experienced Heroin/Opi withdrawal knows just how God fucking awful it is. There's a reason people will do everything in their power to come up with money to avoid being sick. I know it's Meth in this movie but still.
Same with me , I’ve been struggling with my addiction to alcohol , I’m not at the state yet where i go through withdrawal , but the minute i wake up after drinking i get so much anxiety and panic because i know i do extremely stupid things while I’m drunk and it always makes me cringe
I watched this movie on a plane and cried like a baby. this movie was so sad. timothee and Steve did a great job at both of their roles. this movie is so underrated
this reminds me so much of my own battles with addiction. just me and my dad lashing out at eachother with no rhyme or reason because we were just so frustrated with the situation and didn't know how to handle and come to grips with it. its crazy how accurate this scene is
This hits so close to home.... I’ve been struggling with my addiction to alcohol for past few years . this movie does an amazing job at showing all the ugly sides of addiction ... seeing his dad breaks my heart bc my mom sometimes looks at me the same way. sometimes I’ll be going strong , no drinking , no drugs or anything . Then I’ll relapse and my life falls apart all around me , and i drink more so that i don’t have to face how bad I’m affecting the people around me, seeing how his dad feels so helpless, they way he looks at his son with so much concern and worry... i can’t even count how many times my mom has looked at me while I’m drunk or after any mistake i made while drunk especially when he looks down after saying “this is who i am “ .. it’s so hard to look at yourself in the mirror and accept that you’re an addict and it’s just a look that’s filled with so much disappointment & anxiety. I hate that i make her so worry and i wish i could just stop but addiction is not easy. i pray everyday that I’ll finally drag myself out of this hole that I’m in, one day at a time ...
same :( he was so desperate spending even a little more time with him because he knew deep down that the second nic walked away he could lose his son to an overdose any day…
Not enough people are reading into the subtly of Steve Carell's performance. He plays the "straight" man in this scene and he truly makes it look easy. Genius acting.
Fuck this is amazing acting but also extremely realistic. I wouldn’t wish addiction upon my worst enemies but also I wouldn’t wish the horrible pain and suffering addiction causes to the loved ones of addicts as well. If anyone out there is struggling whether if it’s with drug abuse or just your emotions/mind/etc. please remember that you are not alone. Forgiveness is always possible. You are loved no matter what you have done. Before you love and want to give to others, you must first learn to love yourself and fight for your own true well being. Never give up, there is always always always light at the end of the tunnel. Sometimes all it takes is you to be honest with yourself.
I love reenacting such emotional scenes from movies, and this is one of the most difficult scenes I've done. the emotional rollercoaster that nic goes through in just a short amount of time is astonishing
I put my wife, the mother of our child through this for years. Unbelievable she stood by me and our marriage survived. So grateful I get to love my little family to the fullest every single day.
I see a lot of people praising timothee in the comments, and RIGHTLY SO, he absolutely deserves recognition for his incredible performance here, but can we also talk about Steve carrel? He’s INCREDIBLE in this
My older brother is an addict. Haven't seen him in almost 2 years, I hope he's doing OK and finding whatever gives him peace. I just wish I didn't see him have these same confrontations with our parents. I miss you, brother.
I was blessed to have seen a free screening of this film in Los Ángeles.The real life father and son spoke afterwards, it was so dope! The realism of the film is really gut renching and honest about some of the more subtle and conflicting feelings (like self stigma and denial) addicts struggle with at their lowest points. It’s empathetic toward people who struggle with addiction without glamourizing AND it doesn’t demonize the loved ones who try to help. I would recommend this movie. The story is authentic, with good directing and acting! Timmy and Steve’s father son dynamic is performance perfection.
This movie split my heart wide open. Suffering with my own addictions, having a difficult relationship with my father. It was sooo real. I couldn’t stop crying for most of the movie
Why do I relate to his personality and I’ve never done drugs in my life? Like I’ve had these convos with my parents before, not asking for money. Just the anger and the frustration, that Nic is going through. I have felt as lost as he feels, especially feeling like a disappointment to my parents and just being so far gone to the point where talking gets us absolutely nowhere and in fact makes the situation worse. Just a total disconnect between parent and child, when the child is so angry and heartbroken there’s really no words that can be said. Just pure sadness. What’s worse is that he was reaching out and was upset his father once again was not supporting him in the way Nic wanted. Not to say that way is positive or healthy, but in that moment it was just another shirk from his already “seemingly disappointed father” he had to leave, he couldn’t stand being the target of such profound despondency.
I feel the same way, it's like parents stop feeling like they are parents, and they just become other people that I am supposed to be related to, but I just don't feel connected to them anymore. I don't why it happened, I don't know why me relationship is so different from the one's usually portrayed in media. I don't know the perfect solution but for now I have just decided to forgive and try to move on. Anyways I got to this video from this one and it's a great watch for people having issues with their close ones:ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P3X4jALZG_w.html
@@chilipepper71 it’s hard when your parents fundamentally don't understand you. But I have accepted that. I’m doing better and have established a healthier mind set.
@@natalietorres8047 thats good because I'm almost 27 now been clean from heroin almost 2 years. I had to move out my mom's place in order to quit using because living with her was such hell it always made me run back.
This movie is so good and the book is equally good. Timothee Chalamet was so phenomenal and convincing as a drug addict I forgot he was just acting. Also Steve Carell was so great and seeing him in such a serious drama rather than a comedy was amazing.
okay but when watching the movie i rewatched him saying “see you’re controlling me” like 1000 times like the pure like anger in timmy’s and disappointment in steve’s never fails to take my breath away THIS IS INCREDIBLE ACTING
Reminds me when my sister helped me out with a photo shoot when I was still a student. I was waiting two hours downstairs, and then she kept disappearing while I was on the shoot. She had zero interest and didn’t want to talk, and I paid her for petrol and as soon as she had the money she disappeared. I was too young to really understand what was going on, but you really also stop yourself from believing the blinding reality too. She’s very fortunately been sober a long time and it’s not a thought for her to ever go back. She has permanent disability as a result of the situation so unfortunately she really got taught a lesson. But man, that itching to not care about anything I was doing and only using me for money really resonates in this scene. Her desperation was so clear
As someone who’s been addicted to heroin for years and dealt with this growing up and putting my parents through hell it hurts to watch. I remember being in rehab a reading the book from the kids view this stories based on
It's crazy either way if you've been on either side of this. The way the hug each other in the beginning, the mannerisms and the length and then what happens after. So accurate...
