Discontinued Pulley - What Do We Do Now?? 

I’ve been a heavy equipment mechanic for about 30 years. Watching this guy I learn from him. He one of those that if he wanted he probably fix anything.

one of the things I like about the MAN is he's honest great mechanic helps the world saves you time and money and there's your dinner

I used a garage door pulley from Tractor Supply it works great

i welded a pulley on a 5 speed murray 15 years ago , and it's still going strong .

I LOVE the "Breaks & Scrap' Em" reference. That is golden.

Taryl, I am recently disabled due to nerve damage in my back. I have worked my whole life ( about 45 years) most of them at 60 hours and to be unable to provide as I see fit for my family is a painful reminder that I am not invincible. Because of my hours working I had a bunch of neglected lawn equipment. Not having the knowledge to fix them only added to my depression. My wife bless her soul, found you on the" interscreen " and made me watch your videos. Happy to say, you gave me the incentive to "take up a hobby" and learn to fix my stuff as well as some people in town who needed a bit of service. Thank you for your knowledge in a manner that makes it easy to learn. Keep up the good work.

I had a JD LX176 where the snap rings that locate that pulley would not stay in the shaft to locate it because the grooves in the shaft were completely messed up. It started making a squealing noise and the pulley had fallen down onto the transmission. I drilled two holes in the pulley and put two all thread studs sticking up one either side of the pulley. Then I put a cross strap between them made out of 1/8 inch x 1 flat strap pinched between two nuts. I could adjust the nuts up and down to make the pulley set where it used to set and the strap was right on the end of the shaft to keep the pulley from falling on down. That was 7 years ago and is still working fine.

Taryl really deserves more views, he is bringing priceless knowledge, plus songs!

My poor Wizard has untold hours on it. I’ve replaced the engine, redid the transmission, put on new tires, blades, belts, and hoses, and a new seat. Pretty sure it’s a 99 or 2000. Repainted it, and it still mows great. I’ve used your videos and others to help me out. Informative and entertaining

Hey Taryl I had this problem recently with my 2005 broadmoor. I discovered that this smaller pulley has been working fine on my mower all summer: Genuine OEM Tuff Torq 1A646025810 V-Groove Drive Pulley 4.25" - Kept the same belt just fine, very slight increase in speed. Will let you know if it turns out to be a slow moving grenade pin pull. Also noticed the belt runs deeper in the pulley on the original one and it runs along the outer edge on the alternate one - making a comparable functional circumference for the belt. Love your content, grass rats shred!

Ran into that problem with my 22 year old Exmark.The deck pulley's with the bearings.. Super expensive...and super out of stock. I ground the rivets out and bought new bearings...put them back together with 1/4×1/2 bolts and loctite. Probably saved close to $80. All the other deck idlers and mule idlers I found at tractor supply...paid less than half of original equipment.

As long as the customer understands what he’s getting then knock yourselves out. Well Done. Simplicity is a virtue.

I was hoping you'd pull the pulley so we could see the ruined splines and stuff.

WELD IT! My toothbrush broke this morning and I just plastic welded it. It works great! Except for it's a little crooked, like Hillary.

My 10hp 1974 Simplicity Landlord I use for mowing, hauling, snow plowing. The old stuff was made great and not as hard to work on as this. Great repair on this. You're right - a dealer would never do that. The dealer I dealt with 20 years ago (sadly closed now so I can't get parts locally) was horrible. Their mechanics were the pits.

You Rock! I asked you about this a while ago and you nailed it. Simple elegant solution to weld the parts together. I fixed mine by buying a broken K57 with a threaded shaft, instead of the snap ring. I used your K46 Tough Torq video to learn how to rebuild the used trans. So grateful!!

It's really a bad deal when a company claims to make quality machines doesn't maintain a parts inventory to repair something that's less than 20 years old. Especially when it's a part that's known to fail. And there's my breakfast!

I have a 38" Simplicty lawn tractor, stripe master I call it.. It's a freaking beast. No longer concerned with stripes. They just happen :) So over powered with the 21 hp break+scrapem engine. It's been retired in my garage with about 150 hours on it for many years. It's comforting to have in reserve! Thanks for the vidjo. You rock.

Last I knew, BASCO discontinued that part because it was determined the pulley diameter was blocking airflow to the K57 causing failures. They were substituting a pulley with a smaller OD with the same ID to allow more airflow. Because the new pulley lacked the flanges to keep the belt on, the new pulley is supplied as a kit with a belt retainer. You should call your local rep.

As always, when Taryl addresses his critics, the voice slays me.

I will probably never have most of the things you fix on the channel but I really enjoy watching you tinker about with them and fixing them. Keep up the good work and great content 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

besides being a great mechanic taryl is funny and entertaining. i watch his videos even when they don't pertain to anything i'm working on. i had to scrap my campbell hausfeld air compressor because i couldn't find the parts to fix it...the no longer available issue. i learn from taryl's videos, too.

I've found that Briggs changes the part number after so many years to make you think it's obsolete. You have to search for slightly newer models and compare the parts to see if they're the same. Often times its the exact same part with a different number. Briggs is far from the only one pulling this scam.

Good Fix. Another method: drill a 1/4 inch hole, on the seam where it is spinning. Half on inner pulley ring, half on driveshaft. Tap for fine threads, then install a grade 6 or higher, bolt, of shorter length than the hole/threads you made. Tighten good. FIXED, and can replace later, if needed.

It's always great when a firm like Simplicity, privately held, is bought out by a large firm. At one time they had outstanding support for older machines, but support for old machines doesn't pay for yachts, so there's your dinner. I guess Snapper got abandoned too? Good video, thanks.

Happy Sunday

When you are forced to either part out the tractor or do something drastic. Sometimes the best solution is to go ahead take matters in your own hands and get her done. Very nice job grass rats

I've got a 2011 Conquest (Simplicity). Love the thing... no mower deck, but has a Johnny Bucket Jr. Holy tamole is that little unit slick. I can tote almost 500# of firewood in it. It's got a tooth bar and She'll Dig. The best part... handling the weight in the front is no problem; it's got real, no bs, power steering. I'm talking Danfoss steering unit, cylinder that runs off the Tuff Torq, but still maintains the Tiny steering radius... What a blast. Also, the auto-choke briggs never gives me one bit of trouble. Only thing it needs a larger battery (Batt-ry, Taryll), but they left enough room that the big Yuasa that came with my excavator just fits Exactly in. Love Simplicity... the very last of real true full US made riders. Look at how well fitted those handles were he removed and how the fender pan was thicker/heavier than he expected. The new ones have a full Four Wheel suspension, and a high speed tranny to let you go faster over your bumpy yard. And you can find 'em used for Cheap 🐦. I'm telling ya, those Johnny Buckets are so handy and practical, you won't believe it. No loader arms to bend, you can Slam right into snow, ice, soil. Grab one if you can find one, but remember to mount it to something that can handle it, or just expect to give attention to your lighter machine's front end, or just sacrifice it and get a new one to mount the bucket on. I'm telling you, the tight turning circle with the stout Johnny Bucket is a hoot to use and so useful too 👍 ~

Good quick fix!Enjoyed watching.

The garage door pulley is also work well on the carriage to replace those cheap plastic ones

I have a 1979 Roper GT 18 and a 1979 Sears GT 18. Identical tractors both made by Roper. Both still working. I mow with one and plow snow with the other. Still working.

Great solution! When the option is scrapping something or thinking outside of the box, there is no harm in thinking outside the box.

I would have found a pulley with 2 set screws and put that on. I have already had to replace a transmission pulley with the same issue so i went to rural king found a pulley and put it on and it worked great! I did that a year ago. You do great work Terrell. Just tossing out another suggestion. You have helped me fix a few mowers you have great skill and thank you! Tech

So this is your third 'parts not available' solution in a month! And all three problems were solved, where many shops would have simply expressed their condolences. Nice work!

I have a 1956 Simplicity 2 wheel garden plow handed down to me by my grandfather back in the 60's I'd like to restore one day.

Hey Taryl I work at a Small engine repair shop that uses a system called Ideal and I found 6 - 7 of these pulleys in stock across the country I check anybodys stock across the country that has this ideal system

"love tap, baby love tap"...Taryl is a huge B52's fan.

Pretty damn good when you can tell what size bolt with your hands good job

Happy Birthday Taryl!!

That’s a good fix, I ran into a similar problem fixing a Deere 214 the deck drive double pulley bearings where gone and the shaft was worn in half so I got two pulleys from tractor supply one I tig brazed a bearing into the other already had a bearing in it, I then used a press in bearing case from a car bearing to space the pulleys and welded them together, sometimes you have to improvise , overcome and adapt 👍

That thing was really in great shape, for being 20 years old..... Looked great... Bodywork was sharp, appeared intact... Not crashed into every tree in the yard repeatedly... Someone actually takes some care of that thing.... I always kinda chuckle... Guys in our age bracket (roughly) will look at a 2002 tractor (or whatever) and say, like you did in the video "It's not that old!". Where like, my nephew, you can see his face cringe, when I say that... To him, it's older than HE is, therefore, it is an ancient dinosaur, and it's a miracle it still runs at all, being such an antique..... Heh heh heh!

Great repair,iv got a jd sabre with same problem but cast pulley (pos). I taped and ran set screws along side shaft and jb welded it together. Been 2 seasons of use now and no problemo.

Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!

Great idea....love this guy! He's nuts but real, I always learn something from each episode.

I worked in a small engine shop for years, it's the fumes....the fumes got to Taryl...love the channel, and I agree weld it on....good as gold!!!👍👍

Such a shame companies force people to scrap perfectly good equipment just because parts are NLA. `Recently needed to repair a 45 year old piece of farm equipment and much to my amazement, the parts needed were still available.

Thanks for your time

Ran onto that same problem with my 1969 Craftsman Garden Tractor. lol

Recently worked on an old Simplicity 18 Hydro and the center spindle and pulley were beyond stripped. Replacements available but insanely expensive. Put in new bearings and welded the pulley to the shaft. Yeah, next bearing change is gonna involve a plasma gouging but it has the tractor running and working without spending more than the machine is worth.

Whenever Taryl says he's going to pinch one off , things are going to get interesting.😂

Oh my lol i have like 3 of those pulleys in stock were a dealer for simplicty, snapper, and ferris. Open since the 1930s

loving the fix taryl.peace an love from scotland stu an family . u did what the punter asked for awesome.

i usually dont like to repair things like this. but if its for a customer, he wants it cheap. and if the customer already asks for welding... well yes. i once welded a wiperblade arm on the wiper mechanic, because a customer didnt want to pay for a propper repair. Although i struggled pretty hard to get used to your disguise, i really like your videos and have learned a lot.

Some wicked rock music she's putting out right there. Someone was a bit neglectful it would seem. I run my parents 96 JD lawn tractor alot as a workhorse and it still has the original transmission and hardware associated with it. We maintain everything and clean it as needed and are never rough or abusive.

I actually found a new pulley for my similar broadmoor same part number, after watching this video like a year ago. I made it a mission to find one and did from a dealer/shop in the UK. Had it shipped here no problem and now it's sitting in the box in my shop. Hopefully I'll never need it but I'll be damned if I give up my mower because I couldn't get one, you lit the fire in my --- to do it. lol He said he can still get them yet over there. So if this guy still would like a new one for this one I may be able to get one. "Taryl Rules All"

I love your channel I've been wanting for years your awesome and your family and crew are awesome too great job

Great video and great fix Taryl. It would be nice if these companies would maintain a parts inventory for their older machines. Sadly, they won't do it because it is one of several contributing factors to driving down the sales of newer machines. Watching this video makes me wish I were a machinist.

Craftsman is/was notorious for “proprietary” things like odd shaft size pullies and such. Ran into those quite a bit when refurbishing salvaged mowers and tillers……where there’s a welder, there’s a way……

Nice way to repair. I think I have a used one in my stock. I was going to sell it to a customer but decided to keep it for future use. They are hard to come by.

Love the humor, ALWAYS!

You are a mower genius!

Briggs and Scrap-Iron is a classic one here in Northern California that I hear at my shop, I have no problem with Briggs, easy to get parts (as long as customer has model, type and code which is only about 10% of the time when they call) and easy to work on.

Had a wheel horse back in the seventies with a horizontal shaft engine. It was very easy to work on and durable. It also had a manual transmission.

Did exact same fix 10 years agoand that one had been previously welded by a dealer.Still good today,Bricks and Scrapiron...

Taryl, you are going to save the world, one lawn tractor at a time! I always get a kick out of your performance art. It makes fixin' these damn things almost fun.

Great fix Taryl! Ran into that a few times myself!

I run into that frequently, because I run old stuff. My regular mower is a 1968 Simple-City. Works great...now anyway.

I have the same mower but an 07 or 08 . Taryl next time you do this you can save some time by unbolting the the hydro from the mower. Just support the rear of the mower (engine hoist with straps ect) , disconnect the belt from the hydro pulley and I think it's just 4 bolts and the hydo with wheels still attached rolls right out. ( disconnect the rear neutral arm also I think). We change the hydo oil every 200 hrs and got this procedure down so it's pretty fast. One of the last years with the Vanguard ( Simplicity went with cheaper B&S engines later) so it's a keeper but didn't know about the pulley problem. I wonder if TuffTorq possibly supplied the pulley with there unit. I have 450 hrs on mine , how many hours on this one?

Sometimes welding is the best fix, those who are concerned about melting the oil seal can use a hose and let a bit of water circulate over the transmission and around the shaft with the help of a rag to retain enough water around the shaft, but do it over a sump, on steep ground or use a tray to catch the water because if you weld over a puddle of water or in the rain you will get nasty electric shocks, with some welders the voltage can be high enough to be dangerous.

Something you must remember, a lot of Manufacturers share and reuse parts over many different models and years. I bet if you would have Googled this pulley, you would have found a similar machine that uses it. Personally I'm working on a vintage Yamaha at the moment and it has some parts that cross reference to Kubota. Sometimes you make things look and sound a lot harder than they actually are.

Right from the beginning of the video I thought this was going to be a welding job of the trans pulley. Good video- as always.

I was hoping to learn some secret fix for this, I’ve welded several that I couldn’t find pulleys for. I ran a garden hose under the pulley to keep the heat out of the transmission and not melt the fan, but it worked and saved the customer from having to buy a new mower.

Funny this video popped up as I'm going to look at a mower identical to this one, it appears to be in good shape and I know he took care of it, even after the video I'll still probably buy it

Your the man taryl !

Thank you for the video taryl. I've always wanted to see you work on a simplicity lawnmower. I used to have one. Now I have a john deere. Much easier to find parts for.

Always great tips that could also be applied in other situations.

I watch a lot of your videos. My John Deere LA115 has a Briggs and Stratton engine it is 19.5 Hp. I found out that model and year know go thru the head gasket. Seen i watch your video I thought try myself, I got fix.

Good, resourceful repair.

1985 Ford YT 16H

Yes sir just add some new steel to it and now it better than new my friend!

Tension clamp tip. Nice!

I always enjoy Taryl's singing

Great job as usual!

We DO like your songs. As a long-time Tull fan (since 1970), your reference in a prior video to a Jethro Tull song was fabulous.

great video had me wielded to the screen the hole time!

Thank you for the video.

Have a '96 Broadmoor with the turbo grass catcher. Just put new bearings in the blade spindles. Hope to get another decade or 2 out of it.

I have a similar design pulley system on my John Deere (ish) mower. The rear drive pulley will always be running at idle, use your parking brake to stop wearing down that pulley and belt! I'm pretty sure it's in the manual. I bought mine used so I didn't have the manual, I had just realized a LOT of driving components were running at idle unless the parking brake is engaged.

Every season there's a problem with a pulley it's that one or one on the deck great fix Taryl 👍

Very good post, good and informative, cheers !

🎵 BAD PULLEY ...🎶 was on the " B " side of " Bad Motor Scooter " by Montrose with Sammy Hagar singing ...

Love the videos can't wait to see the next one 🕜🕜🕜

Well done !

Looks to be in good condition. Sad that such a simple part failed.

That was my first thought to weld it. I'd have no problem doing it in my shop.

Taryl, you are the man!

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I had a old Snapper with Briggs 5 hp quantum, given to me, it would run, but carb was all gummed up even after cleaning it it leaked. but did run. carb was discontinued , I ended up retrofitting a B&S Primer style carb from a 6.25 Quantom engine on it. and with a little bendage of some metal around the carb to accommodate the differnt carb. and throttle cable removed and new Filter box for primer style, it worked. All parts I had on hand used parts from scrapped mowers.