Discussing Persona 5 Royal with Fither (Part 1) 

I really hope he won't say "MY" Velvet Room, cause I don't want to have to kill him, too.

@@Shalakor no he’s secretly Philemon

I believe the most popular theory is that he is directly connected to Philemon, who was Igor's boss in P1 and P2 and basically the one responsible for Personas in general. He has been absent since despite Atlus (iirc) claiming that P1 and P2 are canon, and also is very curious about humanity and the reasons they do things.

@@PathBeyondTheDark philemon is more like a shepherd for humanity, it's not that he's curious about uh, "us" i guess, he's there to guide humanity. the canon reason as to why he doesn't come back is that if he does, then nyarlathotep also does, as part of their deal. That, however, doesn't prevent Igor from acting on his behalf. What's the logic behind José being connected to Philemon?

@@gastonzumbo9860 probably his referring to "that person" and the promise he made. He is a very interesting character, and I kinda like that we aren't told things about him

Both of Yusuke's showtimes are my favorite. The one with Ryuji is goodlfy and fun. Then the one with Ann was super badass. Unsheathing the sword, the twirl the the sheath into the cut was too cool.

Don’t force it, start doing content and integrate yourself naturally

I’m just starting out too! I’d just come up with a plan for they types of videos you wanna do, and find others in the community you enjoy. You can always try reaching out to them in private if you’d like, that’s more or less how I was able to kickstart my channel.

Good luck

Let’s do it lol. I’ll join u

You must forge a contract. I am thou thou art I

Yeah, I really feel like that fight is only extremely tough until you use elemental items. I watched my friend do it before I got there, so I just made sure I had a good number of elemental items and it makes the fight super manageable.

I would love that

Well all of the initial phantom thieves didn't get much either. That being said, I am disappointed by that with Haru especially.

@@ThaPlaya1994 The initial PT have the whole base game. In addition to a few more scenes. Haru had nothing, and now has nothing. If you cut Haru from the game, what would be missing really?

@@Eliwoodfan10 Life wall cheese

@@Eliwoodfan10 We would be missing best girl, of course

@@gavo7911 Eeeeeeeh. When you subtract zero from anything nothing really changes. (Real talk I think she does have a good social link and character, but she still comes too late for me to get invested or care. She's no Renault from FE7.)

Agreed

I first tried it without fusing anything special because all I did was build up a chain with what I had I don't really see how it was that hard unless you are really underleveled and don't have a variety of personas.

I thought it was extremely frustrating but I liked it for that if that makes sense. It’s like the same type of enjoyment I get out of playing dark souls

@@bruis1527 I feel the same way about Sleeping Table in Persona 3, sometimes its nice to take a step back and have to actually fuse specific things for a boss rather than going in with no strategy and winning first try.

I don't remember having problems with that fight

Kasumi Kiryu

There's certain days where you can take any party member of your choice to the jazz bar to learn a new skill, including things like charge, meditate, and debilitate.

@@Shalakor oh yes I took Makoto there a lot cause I was dating her and she got Heat Riser. What's funny is they can relearn these skills on a NG+ iirc if you take them to the church and relearn them

Jack Flynn yeah I love him, he's very enjoyable to watch, but he killed and hurt a lot of innocent people. He could have been saved from himself, but he wasn't

This is a crazy theory lmao what's the lore behind it? Like how do they come to that conclusion?

It is implied that Yuki and Elizabeth have sex in p3

@@nus5726 Well yeah I know that, but why do they believe that jose is the kid?

Well, like they say in the video Jose does kinda look like a velvet attendant and he does say that he has a female master and he does not seem to have a relationship to Igor. Obviously this theory is mostly likely not true but it has some points

@@bradleysmith4967 I think it's due to the possibility of Makoto and Elizabeth sleeping together during their final date.... there's nothing to prove that the Velvet Attendants don't have the anatomy to be able to bear children.... it's just a theory and i find it quite fun.

I think your opinion of her only stands up when you view her as a social link and not as a new party member. The new content with her is tied directly into the 3rd semester, and so it’s important you have a connection with her as a player. Otherwise she’d just be some random character who just suddenly gets a ton of screen time 100 hours into the game. People complain that Haru just comes out of nowhere in base P5, and I think they didn’t want to do that again. Maruki is in a fairly large amount of scenes in the game even if you ignore his social link, with all of the other characters going to see him. If you decide to ignore him, I promise that he would feel intrusive as well. The difference is in their roles in the new semester. Because Maruki becomes the villain and you can’t unlock the new semester without maxing out his confidant, they can leave his relationship with the MC to the social link, but since they want to allow Kasumi space to grow and bond with the player once she joins the party, they hold back the second half of her social link until then. Which mandates having more scenes to establish a familiar relationship with the player and her personality. I mean, were you constantly annoyed by how Makoto kept showing up for the first two months, or how the base game made Akechi such a primary character before he joined you? Yes, Kasumi and Maruki are additional characters added to Royal, but they still also have large roles to play later in the narrative. So that needs to be set up. It feels unfair to negatively judge the game for introducing them early and making you understand that Kasumi will be important. The game needs to communicate that Kasumi, Maruki, and Akechi’s confidants are all things you should prioritize even for new players, so it gives special attention to these three within the central story. All of that makes perfect sense to me.

@@Zakemaster I think it is hard to view her as a party member, especially since she is only playable for one palace. As for her appearing too much, I think they could have turned her 5 -> 10 ranks into something like 10 -> 15 especially since her confidant is weird enough with how slow it advances. Does she even have to be maxed at 5 for 3rd semester to unlock? I would think it would be weird to have her not maxed going into 3rd semester or getting the original P5 ending without 3rd semester and having her maxed and she just disappearing from the story. I just prefer the way Marie was handled and how if you ignore her she will just disappear or you max her and get the extra dungeon and that awesome post credits scene. You bring up some good points though, thanks for being civil.

@@Cheesepuff44 A bit late, but if you don’t max out Kasumi’s confidant at 5, you can’t do Sumire’s confidant at all, and I’m also 90% sure you don’t even unlock her Showtime. As well, she goes the whole game without ever tying her hair back up and regaining her confidence. So no, it’s not required, but it has some nice character development.

@@eclecticspaghetti Ah I see, that's neat.

My biggest thing will Marie tho is she is a non-factor of persona 4 golden’s story. She is no where to be found until her sudden palace. Kasumi was the vocal point of persona 5 royal so I’m fine with the amount of scenes you get with kasumi. I feel Marie was never really there/ not a vocal point of persona 4 golden even tho she was suppose to be the new, interesting character

I actually loved the fact that I hated his boss fight if that makes sense. Like the fight was very befitting of his character and gave me a reason to hold anger at okumura

At least it was the one challenging part of p5r, you gotta admit the game was way too easy esp w all the new additions

@@user-dy7ls7uo9j True. Royal was a breeze. But there's a difference between a nice challenge and that one difficulty spike that ruins your evening.

@@Ashyson780 As said in the video, for some reason, it's easier on Merciless mode. You didn't feel the pain that is this boss fight on Normal mode.

@@Ashyson780 It really was. I didn't mind it, but still. It felt like it went by too easy.

That’s lowkey lame tho

@@sergiosalazar8702 Very much like the boss fight itself. I just felt like I wasted enough time.

Yeah I gotta figure it out. For some reason it runs really hot even with the gain turned all the way down.

@@pkft1627 Audio is always tricky with how different one thing will sound on different systems. You'll get a hold of it for sure 👍