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Disney Leadership Is Damaging the Company Brand 

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Here, we're going to be taking a look at how the last two decades under Iger and now Chapek have led to a degradation of the Disney brand. The irony, is that these two public figures love to throw around "brand" as a corporate buzzword and frequently speak about how important it is to the company. Yet, the Disney parks have declined in maintenance and cleanliness standards, as well as a number of other areas including theming and attraction quality. On top of this, a recent slate of anti-consumer policies and park cuts have been implemented, leading to a revealing lack of the "Disney Difference" that once defined this company. Join me today as I break down how leadership, obsessed with promoting the Disney Brand, has made damaging mistakes with almost every move they make.
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@VSpoodle
@VSpoodle 2 года назад
I genuinely cannot express enough how disappointing it was to go through epcot and barely feel like I learned anything about the countries they showcase. Remember when the Mexico Pavillion was actually about the history of mexico??
@alfredocamba1995
@alfredocamba1995 2 года назад
It is our responsibility as the fans and consumers to not support bad business. Don't give them your money. They are not good anymore.
@laurellane1721
@laurellane1721 2 года назад
I hate what they are doing to EPCOT. It used to be my favorite park.
@fancywhale1881
@fancywhale1881 2 года назад
Epcot is so disappointing now, we used to visit it occasionally (It wasn’t ever our favorite park) but completely stopped since there just was nothing impressive about it anymore. They stopped caring about it and the last good aspect, the world pavilion, has been degraded to just IP which is so disheartening
@PeterParker-ff7ub
@PeterParker-ff7ub 2 года назад
@@alfredocamba1995 Some people arent but they still make money what then
@seven471
@seven471 2 года назад
I hate how they've made food and wine almost like an eternal event now. It's just becoming a drunken food fest. I hate epcot it's my least favorite park now
@kianna270
@kianna270 2 года назад
honestly as a local, the moment disney really pissed me off was when they fired a bunch of people from their parks instead of furloughing them. and then, made had a mass hiring when they opened up fully again, & made them interview in like spring 21 to get their jobs back. i know quite a few people who never went back to disney after lockdown because of that. my coworker had done the disney college program and landed a nice job at a hotel there, was fired, and she started working with me, then got an amazing job offer to move to germany and work at an american hotel there. really felt bad for her bc she was a huge disney stan, but she moved onto better things just like everyone else will.
@mikebrown8126
@mikebrown8126 2 года назад
Themed entertainment designer here (won’t say for who). There is most definitely a Renaissance happening at Universal Creative, while a Great Depression is occurring at WDI. You highlight this very well in your video. What is most damning is the abandonment of the guest experience at Disney. There is clearly a communication gap between the Imagineers and the Operations teams when creating these new experiences. They should be bouncing ideas off each other, not trying to commandeer the entire development process by excluding each other. Such a shame. There’s no question what Disney is heading towards… and it’s not going to be pretty.
@vikingshelm
@vikingshelm 2 года назад
Yup And that's just the tip of thr iceberg. Safe to say Walt wpuld hate just about everything Disney has become.
@kkraut
@kkraut 2 года назад
Is Disney too stupid to see it? Or are they in denial or just so short sighted that they figure they’ll deal with it later?
@mikebrown8126
@mikebrown8126 2 года назад
@@kkraut it’s the leadership. They’ve completely lost their vision. They are laser focused on profits and pleasing the shareholders, not pleasing the guests.
@joen8529
@joen8529 2 года назад
Also an insider here, prefer not to say “how and what” either…. and you are 100% correct. And thus, your story fully checks out hahah. To those reading: Mike is telling the sad truth. Disney needs to actually promote creatives, dreamers, and those with passion for the business AND it’s history… instead of all bean counters and company politicians. Hire the best and most dedicated talent to manage all things creative, instead of butt kissing yes men with agendas or dollar signs in mind. Actual gifted creatives at Disney are stifled by people who have no clue what makes the parks special. Again, this is the 100% sad truth. And it makes me really unhappy to say this.
@mikebrown8126
@mikebrown8126 2 года назад
@@joen8529 couldn’t have said it better myself!
@paulcampbell7518
@paulcampbell7518 Год назад
I hitchhiked from Pennsylvania to Central Florida to join the Disney Cast with a college friend who told me about the spirit, inspiration, and opportunity that Disney offered at Walt Disney World. It was 1975. I remember spending my free time being inspired watching Walt dozens of times (at the Disney Story Theater in Town Square, Magic Kingdom) explain his plans for the Florida property. I remember spending HOURS exploring the Magic Kingdom appreciating the physical realization of excellence, and the human capacity to approach perfection. As Cast members, we were self-motivated to be a part of those high standards in everything we did for the company. Excellence was the motivator. The money - mountains of it - came along with it. It was a miraculous formula - Mishandled and eventually abandoned long ago by unimaginative, incompetent company leaders.
@RichardDicksondlyrch68
@RichardDicksondlyrch68 2 года назад
The fact that hey're going to rennovate the Grand Floridan Resort -- a hotel whose entire theme is a Gilded Age/Old Florida resort -- so that it's -- wait for it -- more modern and with more IP is a prime example of this unimaginative corporate mindset. Sure, let's gut the thing the place is most notable for and turn it into just another high-priced collection of cubes with gift shops in it.
@hiker64
@hiker64 2 года назад
Dont forget the removal of the Luau dinner show to build that ugly modern timeshare tower.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
This is the second time I've seen this mentioned, but I don't recall Disney every announcing anything like this. What am I missing?
@AwkwardConverse-ation
@AwkwardConverse-ation 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment idk if it's true but I saw wdw news today talking about it
@brianhill6842
@brianhill6842 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment are you talking about the modernization of the Grand Floridian? I did see a very long RU-vid video featuring Ryan March discussing the resort the other day.
@ThrillRidez
@ThrillRidez 2 года назад
@@AwkwardConverse-ation WDWNT is not a reliable source.
@michaelmason6683
@michaelmason6683 2 года назад
I'm a cast member and am doing my best to keep the Walt Disney spirit alive.
@ashtonbyrd3686
@ashtonbyrd3686 2 года назад
Keep it up man!!
@katiekirk3268
@katiekirk3268 2 года назад
You are doing what the higher ups can’t, keep up the great work! Cast members like you are who I will always remember!
@justmemimi7338
@justmemimi7338 2 года назад
Thank you 💜
@GTNover
@GTNover 2 года назад
Thank you!
@michaelmason6683
@michaelmason6683 2 года назад
@@katiekirk3268 that's so nice to hear and is exactly what motivates me at Disney. I know so many guests are there for the old Time classic Disney experience.
@gokaury
@gokaury 2 года назад
Creativity and Imagineering at Disney completely died the day Joe Rohde left. He was their last pillar of pure childlike imagination and wonder. Leaving Disney for Virgin Galatic? It makes me think just how much of Disney corporate policies had to do with him calling it quits.
@chloewildner167
@chloewildner167 2 года назад
Rumor was he was told that the budget would be such at Disney that he wouldn’t be able to do anything interesting anymore so he should consider leaving.
@Mark-pe2sh
@Mark-pe2sh 2 года назад
Nonsense. It started a long time before that. Rohde didn't do anything to stop what happened.
@jheiden2
@jheiden2 2 года назад
Well, Imagineering should have more autonomy from executives above them, for one thing.
@ketchupboy3493
@ketchupboy3493 2 года назад
he is pretty old I think its a high probabillity that he just was ready to retire
@keithbarnes9419
@keithbarnes9419 2 года назад
I think it goes farer back to Mary Skylar's retirement. He had been with the company since Disneyland opened.
@polianacherubine4893
@polianacherubine4893 9 месяцев назад
came here from the Schaffrillas video
@josephtafur
@josephtafur 9 месяцев назад
Same here
@gavinelrod6307
@gavinelrod6307 9 месяцев назад
same
@joeybu8152
@joeybu8152 9 месяцев назад
Same here, quite more educated than anything in Epcot, despite of me loving the park itself.
@blooj249
@blooj249 9 месяцев назад
⁠same
@xpro718
@xpro718 7 месяцев назад
Same
@amymorgan1844
@amymorgan1844 2 года назад
I can’t believe the short-sightedness of companies these days. Doesn’t Disney realize that they are so profitable right now because of decades of relationship-building with its fans? If families don’t make it part of their kids growing-up experience (because it’s not financially accessible) their kids will turn into adults that aren’t fans, and won’t go regularly with their own families in the future.
@FadedWonderland
@FadedWonderland 2 года назад
So true! My family started going because my Uncle took his family every year. Then it became a family saving game to save money all year to take a trip to Disney every Spring. We did it for over 10 years. Now, we are only able to go because two of us have jobs and can pay our own way. I have no rush to go back because of how expensive it is now and how Disney has been cutting corners.
@melbrown7598
@melbrown7598 2 года назад
With most companies these days, it’s all about the short term profit… the future is their problem.
@butterbook
@butterbook 2 года назад
Agreed 1000%....in fact I have been saying for over ten years to deaf ears: "Will these children's children be Disney theme park fans?" Of course...responded with looks of bewilderment and confusion that such a thing could happen.
@josephbrown9685
@josephbrown9685 2 года назад
Bingo. The main reason I was a hardcore Walt Disney World fan is because I went with my family annually for decades as a tradition. My first trip was 1981 as a kid, so much of my fondness is nostalgia. We haven’t been back since 2019 due to a decline in quality.
@butterbook
@butterbook 2 года назад
@@josephbrown9685 I was lucky enough to experience the parks '72 through '89. Can't top those years and why would I try??? 😂
@AMagicProduction
@AMagicProduction 2 года назад
Many fans don’t realize it, but Disney IS NOT the golden standard for theme parks anymore. It happened gradual rather than a dramatic fall, but nevertheless they lost that title. Like mentioned in the video, Universal’s Epic Universe will be a game changer- and the fact that Disney doesn’t even have a plan to counter it tell you all you need to know about the current executives… this would have never happened under Eisner
@somecartoonweeb3947
@somecartoonweeb3947 2 года назад
They'll hastily announce a fifth park right after when Epic Universe gives them a butt kicking. "Duh-uh.... Disney's.... IP GALAXY!"
@whitney8072
@whitney8072 2 года назад
You're so right! Disney went from a passion project to a money grab. The theme parks are making more revenue than ever, but attendance has lessened. Universal is still focused on the consumer experience, unlike Disney, and they have been managing their theme parks very well through the pandemic.
@luisperalesbo
@luisperalesbo 2 года назад
Still, Epcot which is the least liked park has more visitors than any of the Universal Parks, excluding Japan. I dont think theyll change soon
@Ekshaggy
@Ekshaggy 2 года назад
In the last 20years WDW has changed to the point it is no longer fun. I used to praise them, "Disney know how to do a theme park", no more. Sucks, there will still be fanatics and die hards but I can't justify it. At first I figured it was a response to the pandemic with all the cash grabs and cuts, but this sees more like where they were and are headed. Still cannot wrap my head around paying for parking while staying in the resorts. Going to Disney feels gross the way they try and take advantage of guests.
@karlstrauss2330
@karlstrauss2330 2 года назад
At the time we hated Eisner, but looking back, Eisner was better than we give him credit for.
@flakeyjake3339
@flakeyjake3339 2 года назад
You didn't mention the "nostalgia" factor that I believe also exists. Many of us have very fond memories of family vacations with our parents at Disney parks, and bring our own children back now in the hopes to recreate those fond memories for our kids. I bet a lot of people keep coming back for that reason as well and that probably won't change for a while, until all of the older people are gone and the younger people, more disillusioned with Disney, grow older and decide to go elsewhere.....
@angusrock1563
@angusrock1563 Год назад
Well said!!!
@ifninomiko3883
@ifninomiko3883 Год назад
Nostalgia tends to only work the once if the new experience is significantly degraded from memory. I can only speak from my own experience of course. I tend to not return to an establishment if that was the case.
@merkerb
@merkerb 2 года назад
I’m very amazed that so many people look at Bob Iger as such a good thing and Chapek as some evil villain. Seems to me that nothing Chapek is doing could have been done if not set up for by Iger. Iger truly started the pay more give less strategy that has been running rampant.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
I won't complain about Iger's acquisitions, so much as his handling of them. Regarding the parks though, he absolutely was terrible. I think that he is better at controlling his public image than Chapek, but he's still a vain and arrogant person.
@wendyreinmiller8992
@wendyreinmiller8992 2 года назад
Chapek is just an unlikable person and not a good public speaker. Also Disney's PR team is just awful.
@merkerb
@merkerb 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment the seeming hate iger had for mark woodbury , ceo of universal parks and recreation, gave me more respect for Woodbury if anything. Look at the handling of everything since opening again from the pandemic Universe vs Disney. Iger must have been jealous!
@Masterge77
@Masterge77 9 месяцев назад
The biggest problem with modern Disney parks is that they have basically been stropped of their personality by out of touch executives who have clearly never been to a theme park in their life, and think they should be centered exclusively around their movies rather than making original, engaging experiences. Sure many of the original attractions weren't based on movies (or in cases like Pirates of the Caribbean and Haunted Mansion, would be made into movies), they were still as much of a part of the Disney image as the movies were. Now it just feels like you have attractions based on movies for the sake of having attractions based on them, while lacking the immersion that the movie-based attractions of it's rivals like Universal Studios Orlando have, all while sacrificing the original rides not based on any pre-existing IP for the sake of a quick cash grab. Like what does an Indiana Jones themed park at Animal Kingdom have to do with animals? It's called _Animal_ Kingdom for a reason. If anything, Disney theme parks now honestly feel like the parodies of them you saw in cartoons and movies, or parodies of Disney in general. Disney _as a whole_ now feels like a parody of itself.
@colinnikc6248
@colinnikc6248 2 года назад
I hope there come a day that Disney goes back to their old standards and then I can watch a video on how proud Poseidon is of their decisions.
@MrKidroboto
@MrKidroboto 2 года назад
This is why Tokyo Disney and Disney SEA are some of my all time favorite parks in the world. I've always had a great time there, absolutely astounding theming, service and food. Probably because they aren't owned by Disney, just leasing it.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
It's always been interesting to me how a company that's not Disney, has consistently been providing the Disney standard better than Disney itself has over the last two decades.
@madeleine8274
@madeleine8274 2 года назад
I went to TDR in 2019 and it may have ruined me on any other disney park. After my WDW trip last year, I think I'm done with that place for a long while, but I can't wait for a return to Japan.
@EEvtg
@EEvtg 2 года назад
Unfortunately they've been influenced and pressured by Disney to amp up their reliance on IP. The new areas they are opening at DisneySea are all IP based including a Frozen Land smh. I'm sure they'll be pretty well executed, but it's clear there's a creative bankrupcy at Imagineering.
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo 11 месяцев назад
What Disney was: A theme park and vacation destination that celebrated art, animation, and ingenuity with unique and well thought themes What Disney is now: a dilapidated shopping mall filled with cheap IP merchandise that costs more than a weeklong stay at a luxury resort overseas
@Bazil4444
@Bazil4444 2 года назад
Just an hour long roast of Disney leadership and I loved every minute
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
I honestly thought the video would be 20 minutes when I started writing the script. Even at an hour long, I realize how much more I could have said.
@namugriff
@namugriff 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment Should make it a multi part series. Would watch each one.
@jheiden2
@jheiden2 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment I for one, look forward to part 2. 🤓
@jheiden2
@jheiden2 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment one thing you really should add is one of the "disadvantages" Disney has with WDW. Keep in mind, WDW has all this land, which in a way holds them back. Yes, Walt praised it as a blessing. And it is. But all of that land also contributes to "overhead". It means more roads to interconnect everything, which require maintaining. Which also requires a large vehicle fleet, which require maintaining. Which requires gas/fuel as well more people to drive them. As you can see, this adds to everything. Look at Bay Lake. Roads around it, monorail around it, many boats go over it. Oh, and don't forget the taxes Disney pays for everything I listed above. This in no way is intended to defend them, but to point out that Disney has overhead their competitors do not have. In order to show "good returns" on investments, etc they need to charge more, compared to Universal. Sadly, if you want that level of experience, they need to charge more. But what they have done is cheapen much of the experience. One thing I hate is how much of the sight lines have been ruined by the Skyliner. I have nothing against the Skyliner, except for the ruined views. And now the Bay Lake Tower, and soon the DVC tower for the Polynesian. (Both cheapen the views at MK.
@seven471
@seven471 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment Keep going we'll watch
@kapitalcity8308
@kapitalcity8308 2 года назад
Former cast member under Iger/Chapek leadership. You hit the nail(s) right on the head. Awesome analysis
@carly2033
@carly2033 11 месяцев назад
Refreshing to see a fact-based take down of the REAL reasons this is happening; as opposed to the nonsensical “cultural warrior” reasons. A+
@Robb1977
@Robb1977 Год назад
40:57 that shot of "future epcot covered by emoji's" is the most disheartening thing i think ive ever felt. Simplistic character design makes me feel like im going to die. i dont know how else to explain it but that was genuinely upsetting and terrifying to me.
@vesperfromtheinternet5588
@vesperfromtheinternet5588 3 месяца назад
i thought it was an edit by poseidon to show how tacky it's becoming. you can imagine my horror when i realised that no, that is in fact official
@jaimeerindy4573
@jaimeerindy4573 2 года назад
I'm absolutely shocked that they built 2 massive lands with Avengers Campus and Galaxy's Edge and yet there's only 3 total attractions to show for it.
@russellharrison1462
@russellharrison1462 9 месяцев назад
congrats on the schaffrillas shout-out man, very well-deserved
@robertocartagena7776
@robertocartagena7776 2 года назад
This is probably a really weird perspective, but I’ve always felt like the frozen attraction in Epcot was really creepy. Like a very on the nose brainwashing. That’s what I describe it as I guess. The constant use of Frozen related buzz words like the literal word frozen and let it go is just creepy to me. Like “BUY OUR FROZEN SHIT👹👹” idk that’s just kinda how I see it
@NocturneFexy
@NocturneFexy 2 года назад
I'd say your enjoyment of that ride solely depends on if you like the IP or not, which doesn't make a great ride. I bet if you removed the IP from the Frozen ride, then it would be considered Superstar Limo 2.0.
@NocturneFexy
@NocturneFexy 2 года назад
@@Attmay Superstar Limo was trash, but what sucks about the Frozen ride is that it could've been good, but they did the bare minimum with it. Putting in animatronics over barely themed scenes and have them sing fan favorite songs for no reason doesn't make a good ride, it's just tacky fan service at best.
@MonStarGuy
@MonStarGuy 2 года назад
I'm a former Disneyland Cast Member, and I'm watching this video for the Schadenfreude after years of abuse at the hands of mid-management.
@MonStarGuy
@MonStarGuy 2 года назад
28:19 Ah yes, the Cheapek era. It really is like the Pressler/Harris era on steroids. Has Cheapek has announced what base-metal color he's going to be painting Tomorrowland?
@handroid3023
@handroid3023 2 года назад
An hour long video by Poseidon? One of the best things to see in my subscriptions feed :) But in all seriousness, there's a reason why places such as Dollywood have been winning the customer service awards and not any Disney park.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
I really need to go back there. I haven't been in about 15 years, but I think I would appreciate it a lot more now.
@abbysc417
@abbysc417 2 года назад
We live two hours away from Dollywood and it’s absolutely stunning. The service is impeccable and although their attractions are nowhere near WDW in terms of technological advance, the general theming, ambiance, and entertainment is well worth it.
@victoriabell9546
@victoriabell9546 2 года назад
Idk... Tokyo Disneyland is still gaining customers....
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 2 года назад
@@victoriabell9546 Thats because Disney doesn't run that park the Oriental Land company does
@victoriabell9546
@victoriabell9546 2 года назад
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Exactly. Which is why they're gaining more customers. I'd rather we not count out **every* Disney Park. Though, TDL probably isn't for everybody.
@mayamaldonado5004
@mayamaldonado5004 2 года назад
I just went to Orlando last week, visited Disney first and Universal second (for the first time in 10 years). Everything you said is spot on. I was super underwhelmed and disappointed with Disney. The service, food, theming, everything has gone downhill. It is not worth the price tag anymore. Not to mention the poor cast members who are working understaffed at a stressful environment with a small wage (in comparison to how much these parks actually make in one day). I did, however, have the best time at Universal. They are really picking up and executing all the things Disney is lacking. Definitely worth the price tag, definitely less stressful.
@StanBlankPlushelodeon
@StanBlankPlushelodeon 2 года назад
I took a Disney vacation late last year, and despite the one Universal day being cut in half due to an incident, I think I had more fun there than at the Disney parks. The most use that Galaxy’s Edge has to us was a water bottle refilling area.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
Out of curiosity, what did you like about it?
@StanBlankPlushelodeon
@StanBlankPlushelodeon 2 года назад
The wait times were more fair and the attractions were just more fun in my opinion. The Amazing Adventures of Spider Man was one of the best rides I think I’ve ever been on. And as somebody who doesn’t care for the Harry Potter franchise, I had an amazing time on Forbidden Journey. Plus both had lines that were shorter than Slinky Dog Dash, which is what we spent most of our day in Hollywood Studios waiting for. The longest Universal line we had was for the Hogwarts Express.
@StanBlankPlushelodeon
@StanBlankPlushelodeon 2 года назад
I think that proved that guest experience is much more important than IP, because while Disney has more IPs that I like, Universal was a more fun time where we could just do whatever we wanted without planning every move, and as a result I would plan to return there rather than Disney should we go back to Florida.
@66Roses
@66Roses 2 года назад
I once watched a video by a corporate insider who described this problem essentially as, "Corporate culture doesn't know how to create, only to buy." Disney was built on the idea of innovation at all costs, and now their only solution to a problem is to buy one.
@msherd130
@msherd130 2 года назад
I think the perfect example is how now that is coming to light that Genie+ is a total disaster, Disney is telling guests to only expect getting 2-3 rides with the service instead of scrapping the program. The only motivation here is money and guest experience isn't even part of the thought process.
@tomm2213
@tomm2213 2 года назад
AND its a big fat headache trying to get ride times. NOT enjoyble. And yes I know how to work the system.
@jmn327
@jmn327 2 года назад
The Iger quote disparaging Expedition Everest really captures the disconnect: the allure of Disney World was never just "here's Disney characters", it was "here's how Disney handles (insert interesting topic here)". As a child I loved everything from dinosaurs to history to film and music, etc.; *all of that stuff was featured at Disney World*, and the fun was in seeing how Disney handled those subjects. That could be done without a single preexisting Disney character! Importantly, this helped create loyal, repeat customers; if all you're getting as a "Disney experience" are Disney characters, you're likely going to turn a lot of people off, as, honestly, not everybody likes Disney properties. Plus, there are simply too many Disney properties now; it's such a sprawling universe that it's hard to find consistency in themed design with them. It feels like imagineering for years would think "here's an interesting concept, maybe there's a pre-existing character we can attach to it" (like Splash Mountain), but under the Bobs it's been "here's a property we own: now figure out a way to get it into the parks" (like the Guardians rides). But it goes deeper: I don't necessarily care about rides that "immerse" me in a movie; if I want to experience a movie, *I'll watch the movie!* Film and theme parks are two distinct mediums with different strengths; grafting one onto the other minimizes those strengths. Potter works at Universal because as a book series it's very sensory driven: you read about the foods, the scents, the lived-in world, and you want to experience it. Star Wars and Avatar are film-based franchises and *do not* work like that; they're visual, so trying to make a whole land based around it that will engage you in the scents and tastes falls flat, because, well...what's the Star Wars equivalent of Butterbeer? Blue milk? Nobody cares about the blue milk. What's a location in Star Wars you want to visit? Star Wars isn't about the locations, beyond "this is the ice world"/"this is the cloud world", etc. Maybe something like Tolkien would work for that, but most film franchises just don't. And yeah, getting into the anti-consumer policies is a whole other ball of sadness.
@rexpositor6741
@rexpositor6741 2 года назад
It’s simple. Disney has shifted it’s focus to a guest that is willing to go into credit card debt for a less sophisticated mire general product. So the quality of the rides, the hotels, the restaurants appeal to the lower consumer. I’m sorry but it’s true. Look around the parks. Scrambling for cheap merch, fist fights, etc. Disney is no longer a high end place…on purpose.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
I do like to refer to the Mainstreet Emporium as the Arena.
@itsbeebaby
@itsbeebaby 2 года назад
I think that’s kind of what he was saying when he mentioned that it was once in a lifetime so they’re willing to blow money on pretty much anything.
@ImpoForrest
@ImpoForrest 2 года назад
There’s such a stench of classist language in this comment. “Less sophisticated” “lower”. Yeah Disney is targeting lower income people but you don’t gotta depict them in such a condescending way.
@dymaxion3988
@dymaxion3988 2 года назад
I think that the way a company views and treats its customers affects their behaviour, especially in entertainment where the product being sold is an experience that guides the emotions. Treat guests as if they want experiences that are as meaningful as they are fun, and will appreciate every corner you don’t cut, and you might be surprised at the result. Treat guests as if they only want to see their favourite characters, and won’t notice anything beyond the surface of what you present them, and you probably won’t be surprised at the result.
@peachy_lili
@peachy_lili 10 месяцев назад
@@Nick-ue7iw Not all these "lesser" poorer people being targeted are the kind to start a fist-fight, but yet you sound like you are saying we would? Just a thought, reading comprehension is a great way to prevent looking like an asshole
@fernandoalvareztorrico8743
@fernandoalvareztorrico8743 2 года назад
Foreign tourist here. Disney has ceased to attract many international tourists because of how low the offer is in terms of value for you buck. It certainly feels like Disney thinks that people should be paying premium dollar for the brand and not for the experience. From luxury hotels outside Disney being much cheaper than those offered by them, to overpriced food and merchandise, the Disney experience is much like paying 100 USD + to visit a luxury mall where you have to spend more money to try to experience something you most probably didn’t want to in the first place. Disney is not a destination I would choose in the near future. And frankly my family has much better time at Universal.
@backintimealwyn5736
@backintimealwyn5736 2 года назад
I think they planed on attracting masses of chinese tourists. In Paris , my town , they have a peculiar way of doing tourism , it consists mostly on touring all monuments sites as fast as possible, take a picture, not visit them and then go and buy as much perfume and bags as they can . SO Paris had to adapt to that kind of "brand tourism" and luxury french boutiques to sell lower quality products with the brand on it , or "PARIS" written in big at the expense of the brand itself.It reminds me of what I just saw about disney , when theme , creativity and coherence are made irrelevant, because this type of tourist did'nt buy a themed florida hotel but "Disney".
@kianna270
@kianna270 2 года назад
@@largol33t1 they really are. i’m a local & love to go to universal during off season so crowds aren’t as bad. but even when i went to universal during off season, it was crowded! i think people are also going all out after lockdown. right when they started opening the borders for european people to visit and such, they started flooding in lol. i’ve had nonstop british tourists coming into my work. also lots of people from germany, iceland, etc. it’s pretty cool to see so many international people here
@mini3mayhem
@mini3mayhem 8 месяцев назад
So my family's favorite section of Disney growing up was Epcot, whenever we ended up going we would always make sure to spend at least half, sometimes all of the time we spent at Disney at Epcot. One of our favorite rides was actually the Norwegian one (mine is Big Thunder Mountain and was the only reason we ever went to Magic Kingdom other than Space Mountain). And then they changed it to a Frozen themed ride. I don't think we ever went back to Disney because we saw what was coming and decided that yeah no we probably should stop there and instead do other kinds of trips because that really cemented that Disney gave into the cash-grab urge.
@hothotheat3000
@hothotheat3000 Год назад
The power of the brand is too strong. They can hike up prices and cause pure chaos and the die hard fans will still show up for rope drop every day. Not me. They’re not getting my money. I was in town recently for work and a coworker wanted to go hop on the monorail for fun since it’s free, so we did. I’ve never seen so many miserable people. The kids were excited, but the parents looked agitated and exhausted. Compare that to Universal CityWalk where everyone looked much happier and the place was less crowded.
@ageoflove1980
@ageoflove1980 9 месяцев назад
Like I said previously. I think Bob Iger fundamentally changed the Disney business model, from an entertainment company that does marketing, to a marketing company that does entertainment if that makes any sense. At least thats how it feels, because everything they have made the last, lets say one or two decades, feels so bland and generic that you have got to accept that for modern Disney its just the means to an end, rather than a genuine attempt to sell you a specific entertainment product, like a ticket to a movie theater or a themepark. What they actually seem to sell you is the brand. It has become effectively a fashion company and people are just willing to way overspend on logos. I mean, who buys Louis Vuitton bags because they genuinely think they are of such a good quality that they are actually worth the price? Nobody of course, they buy it for the brand, the logos and all that. And for bragging rights "hey look how much disposable income I have so that I can waste it on stuff like this". It really has nothing to do with the bag itself any longer, the bag is just the vehicle, the method of delivering the marketing, and I feel thats exactly where Disney is at right now. Take the Disney cruises for example. You can get the exact same cruise Disney offers with lets say Royal Caribbean for half the price. So, what have Disney just sold you? Not the cruise, because if that was the actual product nobody in their right mind would buy it from them paying twice as much for the exact same thing... Thats also the reason Disney bought Marvel and Star Wars. Because if you really thing about it, its sounds rather counter productive right? Disney can make their own shows and films so why would they buy them? Well, again, their business is no longer creating memorable experiences, its marketing them, so from that perspective it really doesnt matter if you produce it yourself or just buy them. You can really see how blatanly obvious this is by two themeparks in Europe: The Efteling and Europapark. They offer a park experience for a fraction of the cost that is just superior in every way, just like the Royal Caribbean cruise is. Because thats what they do, thats their business; They sell an entertaining day at a park for a price that matches the enjoyment youll get out of that day. Nothing more, nothing less. And Disney seems to be so far removed from this concept that its almost painful to see.
@MrDrProfessersalt
@MrDrProfessersalt 9 месяцев назад
Man not me getting a disney plus ad on a video criticizing disney 😂
@aurea.
@aurea. 9 месяцев назад
The Devil works hard, but Disney works harder 😆
@emilyofjane
@emilyofjane 8 месяцев назад
The “more timeless, more relevant” line over the barrage of cringey emojis is poetic cinema
@ijs733
@ijs733 2 года назад
Universal does the same thing but at least they are honest about it. They also focus on making a good ride first.
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 2 года назад
They’ve also taken recent criticism to heart and try to improve upon it
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 2 года назад
@@Meatball2022 and for every FF (including Jimmy Fallon) we have 3 awesome Jurassic World rides, a classic dark ride reminiscent of the old Disney days in Secret Life of Pets, and an ACTUALLY immersive land in Super Nintendo Land.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
@@NinthShinigami You said exactly what I came here to say. I would also like to add Hagrid's and the Bourne Stuntacular to that list. 2019 and onwards, Universal has completely turned around the level of attractions that they're bringing into their parks.
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment oh yea I forgot about those two for a sec lol
@rexpositor6741
@rexpositor6741 2 года назад
The price of Universal is proportional to what you get so it’s fair. Disney though charges for top tier quality but delivers low quality product.
@KoopaKool12
@KoopaKool12 9 месяцев назад
Hey Posiden entertainment. You got mentioned in a Schafrillas Productions video. Congratulations!!!!!
@dr.kineilwicks7002
@dr.kineilwicks7002 Год назад
The last time I went to disney was 2013, we were in the area anyway for my graduation, the last time we had been was early 00s--I had seen Lilo and Stitch and wanted to go to Hawaii so we ditched several years of disney to save up for that instead and...never got around to going back. That last experience was a severe disappointment--for the happiest place on earth everyone was dour, we weren't informed beforehand that the parks would close early to 'casual payers' for the Halloween event, and the few rides we managed to go on felt like they were a few shades away from falling apart (not to mention if you dared to buy any of the merch you then couldn't GO on any of the rides). Compared to the Universal experience, which we went to the next day--we told the ticket lady we were there for the one day only (which we also told the disney ticket lady) and wanted to see the Harry Potter area. She gave us the fastpass, whipped out a map and outlined the fastest way to that section of the park. The entire experience at Universal was WORLDS better than disney, starting with the attitude of the people in front. I might have had years of pleasant experiences at disney, but that one experience destroyed any goodwill I may have originally felt for the parks. It ended up being like the satire theme park from the Foxtrot newspaper comic by Bill Amend--only focused on the price and the purchase over any genuinely fun experience. Strange how that ended up predicting disney's current state.
@bjmajor
@bjmajor 2 года назад
I've said and felt this for a very long time now and always felt I was one in the wilderness doing so; Disney has more than enough of its own characters to use; it does NOT need to buy other companies' IP. I was and am still against their buying The Muppets, Pixar, Star Wars, Lucas, Marvel, Fox, and who knows what else. In addition, they are making some of the worst decisions in history closing down learning attractions such as Universe of Energy and World of Motion. To replace World of Motion with Test Track: what were they thinking?????? Ditto for Universe of Energy, soon to be an attraction based on comic book characters instead of teaching about the energy crisis. It boggles my mind. Thank you for a great video and speaking your mind.
@chemweapon
@chemweapon 2 года назад
Eisner built things, Iger bought things, Chapek broke things.
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 2 года назад
As much hate Eisner may get, at least the man tried to experiment with the parks in a good way
@LTDLetsPlays
@LTDLetsPlays 2 года назад
I personally think iger bought things and broke things while chapek has done nothing noteworthy
@crann777
@crann777 2 года назад
@@vincentparisi2644 Losing billions? The only misstep from Iger was ESPN. Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars have paid for themselves multiple times over since their acquisitions, and Fox will pan out just as well. As for the pandemic, how dare Iger not predict a global health crisis!
@evilvelvet
@evilvelvet 2 года назад
Agreed on everything you’ve said! What I loved about going to any of the parks was the escapism and immersion, the theming is really what I want from the parks. The amazing shows, fun rides that don’t rely on just screens, and dining that is good quality. All of that quality has gone down massively, unfortunately!
@iced_latteZ
@iced_latteZ 2 года назад
For me the the older rides with no Disney movie theming always felt like new movies I’ve never seen before! They are telling a new story for me that is by Disney still. Now that so many rides are getting the Disney treatment it just doesn’t feel the same. Also I always loved the educational stuff that Disney rides had. I feel like that has been going away too :( also I don’t think you mentioned it but dinosaurs is also a well themed area of animal kingdom with a great ride. It fits with the rest of the park while it still being a Disney franchise movie. It’s possible to make it work. I just really really hope they don’t overly “disney stamp” animal kingdom ever because right now it has the least amount of it.
@KurtJohn3
@KurtJohn3 2 года назад
Many are hoping Disney will reverse recent decisions. The decisions aren’t recent, and reverse is a long gone option. Disney needs to eliminate positions, and hope the damage is short term.
@Pissgremlin5964
@Pissgremlin5964 2 года назад
Unfortunately the ones doing the damage are the ones in control. And they just reupping their contracts. How do we get rid of them? Besides boycotting. And there's to many pixie dust addicts to really put the screws to them.
@chapulin9922
@chapulin9922 2 года назад
You nailed it and these decisions have been in the works for a while. It’s like a cancer that has been expanding through out. You can’t just take out one tumor and call it a day. They have to eliminate the entire disease and then MAYBE the patient survives. Their anti family stance is thick and deep. I’m not sure they can heal from this one. There is a lot of cancer to remove in the executive layers
@ryanfischer6550
@ryanfischer6550 10 месяцев назад
Disney is developing a cult through DVC and it’s members will press hard to guilt you into joining them. Most magical rip off on earth.
@Trenacker
@Trenacker 2 года назад
I greatly appreciate Poseidon Entertainment's discussion of leadership beyond Bob Chapek. Bob Iger marked a major departure from Walt Disney's original vision for the parks. EPCOT Center was a celebration of certain essential ideas, not all of which could be linked to or boiled down to Disney IP. But it was part of what made the Disney brand, and the Disney story. Iger covered himself in glory for increasing Disney's bottom line exponentially, and Chapek seems to be doing likewise, but I agree that the current trend of catering to high spenders seems very likely to result in a diminution of the generational transmission of enthusiasm for Disney cultural products. The real question is whether we will see a meaningful fall-off in Disney Parks attendance over time. I continue to be surprised by the number of guests at Disney Parks despite what this video describes as pervasive "anti-consumerist policies."
@brianhill6842
@brianhill6842 2 года назад
I’m surprised too how crowded it is but I think it was from people who felt pent up from the last two years. Or ….it simply could be people who are clueless and are satisfied with lackluster experiences, people who don’t really understand what the Disney brand was.
@Trenacker
@Trenacker 2 года назад
@@brianhill6842 I'm concerned that there's a new and influential category of Disney parks guest, the social influencer. Their interest in the Disney park is much less elastic than the typical guest, who is concerned about price, quality of service, etc. That is because the influencer's purpose is merely to catalogue and experience. Whether they report good or bad results is secondary to their purpose. Traditional guests go to Disney World to enjoy themselves based on what is there. Influencers go to Disney World to enjoy themselves by the act of going in itself. It's unearned media for Disney, and depending on how large this pool of people is, potentially a new profit center. Travel analytics also point to the rise of a new, luxury vacationer, whom Disney is expressly interested in courting.
@czafft4309
@czafft4309 2 года назад
As a Floridian, I’m not surprised by the crowds. I live in a beach area and it’s been consistently crowded since late ‘20. Folks know they can come to FL with limited restrictions and enjoy their vacation after being restricted in their hometowns. Personally, this doesn’t bother me. What I do find interesting is the number of friends who in the past had no interest in WDW, are suddenly planning trips to WDW. The common theme has been, “might as well do it now because we probably won’t come back.” Let’s also keep in mind that the impact of our nation’s economy has not been fully realized yet. Will be interesting to see how this impacts travel decisions to WDW.
@brianhill6842
@brianhill6842 2 года назад
@@czafft4309 I love this last part about the impact of the economy hasn’t been realized yet. People running up debt on their credit cards might not be such a good idea. 😂😂😂
@mariomouse8265
@mariomouse8265 2 года назад
@@Trenacker If that is true, then the Disney brand can kiss itself goodbye. As the old saying goes: You get rich by selling to the poor and you get poor by selling to the rich.
@katemarlor1816
@katemarlor1816 2 года назад
There's some schadenfreude in your videos, but for the people who truly love the parks and the cast members, (maybe more than the IP), these videos feel cathartic. Even beyond that, they feel like reassurance that old school fans were not going crazy about the decline in the parks. I went in May 2011, then January 2018 and that was a long break from the parks for me. Or, at least, it was a long break. I looooved my trip in 2018, best food ever and perfect weather. There was a ton of construction, in prep for the 50th Anniversary, which I was happy to see. I want the property to look good, that's where I want my dollars to go. But, something changed. Retailed popped up everywhere, in places NO ONE asked for. I don't want an expensively- cheap do-dad, I want an overpriced, delicious cookie. I want jewelry that looks like it came from one of the treasure chests in Pirates, not a plastic necklace with Jack Sparrow. Now, with all these changes I don't know if I'll ever go there again. Why, why, why Disney have you decided to turn off and price-out people who come to the parks every couple years consistently, looking for a unique experience, in favor of IG and influences?
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
The merchandise is another huge factor of Disney's decline. They've had the tacky and cheap stuff for decades, but there was also plenty of other interesting and more quality items as well. Under Chapek, merchandise has become so consolidated and lacks the uniqueness that it once had. It's weird seeing 50th Anniversary Walt Disney World merchandise at Disneyland.
@katemarlor1816
@katemarlor1816 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment WDW merch at Disneyland? Didn't know that. Ripping off themselves... at their own parks. Cheap and lazy. You're better of getting merch from Etsy, those sellers care about quality and uniqueness.
@smileycindy
@smileycindy 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment The 50th anniversary merchandise was very lackluster and uninspired. It was also incredibly cheap from what I've seen (like the iridescent lettering peeling off the shirt when it's worn for the first time). I used to be able to trust that merchandise I got from Disney was good quality, but in recent years, I've experienced a lot of doozies.
@rissagratkowski2560
@rissagratkowski2560 2 года назад
This is exactly how I had felt. I always went to the parks to collect unique top hats that were themed differently. Now they only sell minnie ears and the same three hats that have been around for decades. Nothing exciting.
@arandomnamegoeshere
@arandomnamegoeshere 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment the merch is an interesting example of Disney's decline. I remember when DW stores had unique stuff. Now its largely homogenized. And often of dubious quality. I don't mind paying a premium for a nice bit of Disney themed clothing. But now it's premium for an uninspired crap garment. Anything actually interesting is out of stock (and still likely to be sub-par in quality). That applies across the board - beyond clothing.
@groovybaby95
@groovybaby95 2 года назад
I had been wanting to plan a trip because I was trying to stay oblivious to the fact that Disney is a shit stain, but this made me realize once again how horrible Disney has actually gotten. The last time I went (in 2019) I had such an amazing time. Of course, that’s when the world felt normal but with that being said it was a good time. I didn’t spend a crazy amount on it and it was fun! I worked there in the spring of 2017 at animal kingdom. It was right before pandora was opening. I was always confused why they were building it, but when you said that it was the highest grossing film at that time it all clicked. Honestly, I love pandora a lot but like you said had Joe Rhode not been the head of it, it would have been garbage. I miss the old Disney. I miss all the old promo videos, the shit that felt cheesy, and I miss the quality over quantity. It doesn’t matter that they just made all these rides and worlds. I had high hopes for toy story land and Star Wars land, as I should have, and they’re just so disappointing. (I’ve not been to Star Wars land, but just from what I’ve heard). I want fast passes back. I want the entertainment back. The parks don’t feel alive anymore and they need to. The cast members are burnt out because they’re overworked and they don’t care as much anymore to make meaningful connections because they don’t have the energy. I know when I worked there, I was exhausted constantly because of the amount of hours I was given. I couldn’t give it my all. I feel like the magic is still there, but Disney executives are trying everything in their power to take it away. What we really need is a hardcore fan to be ceo, or perhaps a group of fans who are dedicated to the work. Not these stuffy men in suits who really don’t give a shit about what Disney really means. It’s not about IP, it’s not about the money, it’s about the memories you make and seeing your kids face when they meet Mickey Mouse for the first time, having meaningful interactions with cast members… Stuff like that. The average family can’t afford that anymore and that really sucks. Makes me so mad and sad.
@zuzuspetals9281
@zuzuspetals9281 2 года назад
I want the E,D,C,B,A ticket rides back and you all just wait your turn in line, hand stamps, no parks to hop to, watching fireworks, mule rides, root beer in the saloon, concerts at night, it was family fun and relaxed. Disneyland in the 60s and 70s was amazing.
@charvelgaming2975
@charvelgaming2975 2 года назад
The whole experience has changed when visiting Disneyland for me. It's so busy for starters I can't help but compare when I went as a child in the 80s. We could easily do 30-40 or even more rides in a day. Having to use an app takes away from the magical experience. However if you don't use it you won't be able to maximize how many attractions you can do during your visit. Also agree on all.the nickle and diming of food/merchandise etc..
@peteg475
@peteg475 2 года назад
They're supposedly big on changing the parks to push the IPs, but they still make baffling decisions like only giving the high-quality and well-loved "Tangled"...a bathroom.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
It's certainly odd. I understand that there wasn't really any room for an attraction in that specific space, but the rest of the New Fantasyland project seems like a mostly waste of potential.
@peteg475
@peteg475 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment It just seems - wait for it - ill-thought-out, lazy and cheap. "Hey. Tangled was really good and really popular. We have a small footprint over here in this corner where we can put a downsized version of the Tower. Oh, it's right over a bathroom? Theme the bathroom to the movie...DONE!!... NEXT!"
@wt7553
@wt7553 2 года назад
They announced New Fantasyland to counter the upcoming Wizarding World. The problem is Disney animated films were at a low point in the mid to late 00s so there wasn’t a strong recent property to work with. When New Fantasyland was announced they leaned heavily into the Disney Princesses brand that had successfully revitalized older IPs for a new generation of girls. They scaled back a little by adding Mine Train. As luck would have it, Tangled and Frozen were massive hits, but there was no place to put them after the massive expansion. So Tangled got a bathroom and Frozen got the empty space after Snow White closed. New Fantasyland, Pandora, and Galaxy’s Edge all fell short in different ways because Disney rushed to compete with Universal. New Fantasyland left out popular new films. Pandora was based on a high grossing film with no staying power. Galaxy’s Edge attempted to get ahead by aiming for the sequels but ended up being behind the more critically acclaimed Mandalorian which along with Book of Boba Fett would have justified building Tatooine instead of Batuu, planet that’s not even in the films. At this point, Disney is so far behind Wizarding World I don’t think they can catch up. They’ll certainly be behind Epic Universe.
@19kilo241
@19kilo241 2 года назад
The greatest sin of New Fantasyland was replacing Snow White with a meet and greet. Borderline criminal. They should have at least given us a clone of mr toad or Pinocchio in that space.
@zammyb4535
@zammyb4535 2 года назад
NTM that the bathroom tower ruins the (once valued) site lines from Liberty Square.😑
@alyssabaines7911
@alyssabaines7911 9 месяцев назад
I've never been to a Disney park (I'm from the UK and we've never had enough money to really go), but I was so jealous when some of my friends got to go when I was younger. Now if I had the chance for a once in a lifetime US trip, I'd probably go to Universal and/or Busch Garden Tampa Bay - the rides and theming interest me more than what Disney has (this may be mostly because one of my special interests is roller coasters specifically which those parks give me more variety of (like Velocicoaster, the Hulk, Iron Gwazi, Sheikra you get the idea)). Came from a Schaffrillas video, this is a very well made video!
@JacobK227
@JacobK227 2 года назад
Great video, as always! The replacement of the Great Movie Ride is probably the most blatant slap in the face to Disney fans I have seen. I wouldn't have believed you if ten years ago you told me Indiana Jones would outlive the Great Movie Ride. Replacing arguably one of the best attractions which held together the theming for the entire park for a cheap feeling ride just to cut on maintenance costs is disheartening and does not make me hopeful for the future. Though I preferred Malestrom, at least its replacement made sense given the demand for a Frozen attraction. Who was asking for a Mickey Mouse cartoon ride? Some points of contention: I don't think Winnie the Pooh is as bad of an attraction as you make it out to be, plenty of value there for an attraction with little wait, though certainly not on the level of what it replaced. Also, I actually enjoy the theming of the France pavilion expansion as it sort of transitions into an aesthetic that more closely resembles the world of Ratatouille, so the detail of the original theming may not fit as well.
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 2 года назад
I’d say the removal of GMR was a harder slap than Will Smiths to Chris Rock
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
Little wait for Winnie the Pooh? As of right now from checking the app, it's a 40 minute wait. I don't hate it, but even the Disneyland version puts it to shame. I also appreciate the courtyard for Remy does fit the aesthetic of the film, but it's the details that are missing. Even watching the shots of Paris from the film, the buildings are animated with much more texture and contrast than what Imagineering delivered with the ride.
@JacobK227
@JacobK227 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment It's definitely not worth a 40 minute wait, though it does seem to just be a busy day at MK. Under the Sea and PoTC are also 40 minutes and I think we can agree that's a wide spectrum as far as quality there. Also, like you said in the video it's an attraction you're likely to have available on Genie+ (I hate that that's a selling point of any attraction). I think you're right that the Disneyland, and certainly the Tokyo version, are better. Though for an attraction built in 1999, the ride vehicle and set effects make for an attraction that I think is a lot closer to the "Disney difference" you mention than something like Under the Sea which was built 13 years later and somehow seems more dated. And yes, especially if we are including the ride itself the France pavilion expansion is missing much of the detail that the film has.
@mcwjes
@mcwjes 2 года назад
I think Winnie the Pooh is best if you have small children who need an engaging wait and a tame ride. It's painful for adults, but wee ones love that chaos.
@seven471
@seven471 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment To me what's sad about that whole area is it's always covered with people sitting on the ground sweating in the sun with their head in their hand waiting to get on the remy ride because they're in queuing
@ethanol1586
@ethanol1586 2 года назад
I feel like Iger really started the whole "ip before quality" and just handed the dumpster fire to Chapek. That being said Chapek clearly isn't doing anything about it and is just making things worse
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
Nah, Chapek actively made it worse. He was Chairman of Parks and Resorts for six years and you can see his influence. It's the difference between Cars Land and Avengers Campus that shows the contrast.
@chileanyways196
@chileanyways196 9 месяцев назад
I think adding in characters from the potc movies to the potc ride actually works and it’s the only instance where ip inclusion doesn’t seem forced to me. Plus it led to Shanghai’s amazing and innovative version
@MalakiaLaGattaNera
@MalakiaLaGattaNera 2 года назад
Thank you for these videos Mr.Poseidon. I find it hard to make my non-theme-park-goers friends understand how much damage has been done (and will continue to be done) but your videos are a good introduction to our common 'plight'. It's so disheartening to see this company that practically raised many of us fall so hard. Blizzard, Bioware, Disney... so sad.
@thatoneguy8834
@thatoneguy8834 2 года назад
I worked with Steven Davison on Harmonious and the entire experience was a disaster. Steve was in the midst of a substance use addiction and his partner served him with a divorce and a domestic violence restraining order. The management kept throwing money at the project the show went from a budget of $240 million to a final price of $580 million. With the chaos swirling around Steve It isn't surprising that the show is a mess.
@uglystupidloser
@uglystupidloser 2 года назад
The people in charge aren't worried on quality. It's just a machine to make money. For investors, and their bonuses. Without someone in charge wanting to offer quality for consumers and encouraging their teams to explore artistic ideas, Disney won't be anything more than a money pit. Because that's all it is for the leadership now.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
It's a pretty stark contrast with Eisner I think. I recognize that he too attempted to make as much money for shareholders as possible and wanted to shore up his compensation. Yet, it's very clear that he appreciated the product and was heavily interested in the creative process, knowing that people came to Disney specifically for a unique and high standard experience.
@frankw7091
@frankw7091 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment Yeah, I never thought I'd miss Eisner but this new guy is a disgrace. Iger not too bad.
@timkunk3498
@timkunk3498 2 года назад
@@PoseidonEntertainment Yes but Eisner attempted to become the "face" of Disney. A position for which he was not qualified. What's the last thing Walt Disney wrote. Kurt Russell. I do believe at the time, Walt was trying to say who should be the face of the company.
@shawbag11
@shawbag11 2 года назад
With how much money they make u would have thought they could cut us some slack. i mean sure alot of people go to the parks but if the price keeps going up its going to be out of reach for most fammilys so not as many people will be able to go. and really do they need to charge 9 quid for a single ride of rise of the resisstence when they have already charged u 20 quid just for fast pass for the day? i mean surly thats pushing it a bit far
@b.c4440
@b.c4440 Год назад
I’ve only been to each of the American Parks once but Animal Kingdom was by far my favorite specifically because of Everest. I was so impressed by how immersive it was. I had so much fun in the queue that by the time I got to the ride I had no time to be nervous. It’s also was just a really beautifully designed park. I’m sad to see that all the parks are being chipped away at slowly. They really had something special and impressive.
@danfrett4852
@danfrett4852 2 года назад
Very much enjoy your video essays! They are all very thorough and well researched. Been a Disney fan for as long as I can remember and the nostalgia of it is why I keep defending the parks but your videos definitely brings a lot of issues into the light. Thank you for creating! Will keep my eye out for more.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
I used to defend these parks as something "not just for kids", but I had a difficult time trying to do so. With the many changes over the last five years, I've now realized why.
@foreignparticle1320
@foreignparticle1320 2 года назад
This problem is replicated in the Disney Theatricals business unit. The Lion King musical was groundbreaking, but every subsequent attempt at stage adaptation has been simply to convert the film to the stage, rather than creating a theatrical experience in the way that Julie Taymor did with TLK. The epitome of this problem is the Frozen musical, which is merely a piece of merchandise itself, as well as a trigger to sell the copious physical merch in the theater foyer. As a piece of theatre, it's dull as dishwater - reflected in its premature closure on Broadway. Formula, formula, formula. Innovation, originality and risk are now rare factors in Disney's business practice.
@ARIOCH_VL
@ARIOCH_VL 2 года назад
Current Disney reminds me of Sega back in the day. Bad decisions one after the other while a competitor looms with a killer product. Back then it was PlayStation, in this case, its Epic Universe. I’m a former Cast Member and was compelled to apply back to Disney recently, just because I want to make a difference. Sadly, even recruiters seem to have their heads up, well, you know…
@colincopland3665
@colincopland3665 2 года назад
The Disney Formula according to Walt: Detail-rich immersion in entertaining stories for all ages, delivered daily with respect and charm from our cast members to our guests. The Corporate Media Empire Formula according to Bob Iger: Conceal creative bankruptcy by going on a shopping spree of intellectual properties (Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, 20th Century Fox) in order to shoehorn more mass-produced merchandise into any available square footage of the parks and resorts that’s staffed with a skeleton crew of sales clerks.
@pepperread1184
@pepperread1184 2 года назад
I completely agree! We have visited many times over the years. We always felt like we were in a beautiful, clean, happy bubble when visiting Disney. Our recent visits have been disappointing. The lack of cleanliness, obvious employee dissatisfaction, limited/reduced access to attractions, exorbitant prices for less/poor services left us sad and wistfully reminiscing past experiences. We, who regularly visited, have decided to not go back.
@monkeysrighthand
@monkeysrighthand 2 года назад
It's sad what's happened to Disney World. All of the reasons you mention in your video plus how complicated it's become. Disney was always great for it's unusual attention to detail, but also for how easy it was. We just planned what will probably be our last trip there. In contrast, as you said, we went to Universal in 2019 and had the most incredible time. I'm not big into rides, but loved Diagon Alley so much I wanted to move there... which is how I used to feel about sections of Disney World. Now it's anemic and dirty. Thanks for your reporting!
@jaythatguyyouknow5135
@jaythatguyyouknow5135 Год назад
In the 90s, when I was a child, Disney was the gold standard of everything entertainment. From attractions to movies, no one did it like the house of mouse. Now, not only has everything Disney become a disingenuous cash grab with little to no new innovation in most everything done under their brand but they have also become have followed suit of so many others in the entertainment industry. Add on top the way producers/actors/etc. attack when someone tries to bring up any legitimate issues and it makes it 10 times worse. For example, if a Star Wars fan has issue with the many problems of the new movies it’s not because they made a inferior movie. It’s because the audience if filled with bad people that don’t like the movies because they are/believe *INSERT “IST” & “ISM” ACCUSATIONS HERE* so they should be ignored and their concerns shouldn’t be addressed. I never thought that when I became a parent that I wouldn’t allow my children to watch, own or interact with anything Disney but that is exactly how things are in my home. My baby has zero idea who Mickey Mouse is and my oldest has zero interest in anything Disney even though they are at the age that most people start becoming fans of the Disney IPs. My family and I will continue to boycott everything Disney until things change for the better. That includes not even using free trials of Disney plus much less signing up for any of their services. I suggest anyone else that fees like myself and many other’s start doing the same thing. That way we send a message to the people in charge at Disney. The mess is we will vote with our money. Make inferior products/attractions, then we won’t waste our time or money on them. If they continue, then many of this new generation of children will not grow up with the Disney name and brands. There is plenty of quality content and attractions available to be entertained without ever giving a penny to Disney.
@kurajessie2013
@kurajessie2013 2 года назад
Although eisner was a controversial ceo, he was willing to take bold risks that actually benefited the parks and 'the disney brand'. Now under Iger, and now Chapek, they are turning a much loved brand into just boring, basic and unoriginal
@ryanjeanmski
@ryanjeanmski 2 года назад
It really is unfortunate, especially since the Disney Parks used to have so much love poured into it's artwork. I think it was really valuable that the imagineers were more focused on education and teaching about the world, whether it be our real one or one of fictional creation. Universal Studios is definitely climbing above them, while they use more IP they make it far more immersive and seamless. If Disney really wants merchandise sales, then they need to start with good experiences and movies. The demand for merchandise will follow. Not the other way around.
@drewinmaine
@drewinmaine 2 года назад
Disney is bleeding cash in pursuit of its very aggressive streaming ambitions. They are trying to make some of it up by squeezing every dime it can out of Parks. They could certainly do a much better job managing public relations regarding the changes to the park experience, i.e. do it in a way that's less damaging to the brand. However, this is what's behind most of their moves, particularly the ones over the past year.
@thebluetarp
@thebluetarp 2 года назад
Disney is creating rides now with no animatronics! I just can’t believe this is happening. Spiderman at DCA has literally zero animatronics. And not only that but it’s literally all screens. Between the screens are walls with paint on them. It’s sickening what Disney execs are doing to the theme parks.
@NocturneFexy
@NocturneFexy 2 года назад
I think it's funny that everyone SCREAMED when Universal was doing it, but no one bats an eye at Disney when they're now doing the same exact thing.
@thebluetarp
@thebluetarp 2 года назад
@@NocturneFexy um, eyes are batting over here!
@Joker22593
@Joker22593 2 года назад
I really like the "it's as small world!" additions. They're so easy to miss (except for stitch) that it's not distracting. Plus, it's a fun game to find them when you know they are there. The sound design of is also great. You only hear the character's music when you look right at them. Crazy. I will continue to repeat: The problem is that Disney won't build a third park. They have too much demand so they respond by raising prices, which is normal, but it's causing an overall loss of surplus compared to building a third park. A company always looks greedy when they stop caring about consumer surplus. That's why people who are sensitive to greed based issues are always complaining about inelastic goods: goods where the demand isn't based on the supply and the producer captures most of the surplus. Disney is fairly inelastic good due to copyright protections on their content and the lack of competition for their immersion level. Looks like Universal might be catching up on immersion though.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
A third park? I assume you mean in Disneyland Resort? They're currently tearing down buildings in Downtown Disney to provide pathing to a new and larger shopping area that will eventually be built, freeing up space for major park expansions or even a third park.
@ingridc0ld
@ingridc0ld 9 месяцев назад
I went to Disney World in December 2022 and it was awful. The only part I liked was Frontier Land. Everything else just sucked especially for the amount of money I payed for it.
@FIREBREATHINROB
@FIREBREATHINROB 8 месяцев назад
Great video 100 percent truth! I’m an annual pass holder since 2010 and they ruined the place.
@adlinreese
@adlinreese 2 года назад
You know what’s funny? Diagonally feels like they’re prioritizing immersion over sales and it’s a FRICKING SHOPPING MALL. That’s some dedication right there. Disney would foam at the mouth for that kind of opportunity and they’d do it wrong. Glad they passed her up tbh Uni was the right one for the job.
@bryansipes3601
@bryansipes3601 2 года назад
If Disney wanted to sell merchandise so badly, then why did they close Disney Stores all over the country? Oh... Disney Execs need you to actually come to the parks to buy the merch and along with that spend major bucks on lodging, admission and food.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
The closing of the Disney Store is more a symptom of the rise of online retail. Shop Disney Parks is wildly successful, so it makes sense. While I remember the Disney Store in a positive light, I at least understand why it made sense for them to do so.
@linkage432
@linkage432 Год назад
My experience with Disney started with the hotels and campground, and then came the theme parks. My parents didn’t have a lot of money, but we did come upon a cheap pop-up camper that we cleaned out and used frequently. Fort Wilderness campground was our spot, and I have a lot of good memories, riding our bikes throughout the campground, enjoying the pools and amenities, and sitting on a rocking chair, watching the boats, bringing back tired families from the theme parks. My sister and I would take a boat to the contemporary and ride the monorail around all day, hotel hopping, and just enjoying the Disney “vibe “. As time went on and we grew up my parents were able to afford tickets for the parks, and we soon found every nook and cranny in all of them. That cohesive Disney “feeling” was there as well in the parks. I was there for the opening of Animal Kingdom, rode space Mountain more times than I can count, took advantage of their after hours events, ate my weight in Mickey head ice cream and turkey legs, basically if we had a free weekend we were at Disney. I know things change, and nowadays things change quicker than before, but that Disney “vibe/feeling” isn’t there. My wife and I have two kids and had taken them to Disney when they were younger. Seeing Disney through the eyes of your children is something indescribable, even still, Disney just feels off. I’m not pining for nostalgia, I want new stuff that’s cohesive and feels like it fits. That spark is still there and can be found throughout the property, but that’s the thing, it’s not altogether, it doesn’t flow. Needless to say, with 2 kids it makes Disney way more expensive. My wife and I never renewed our Annual Passes and shortly thereafter Disney removed the majority of perks for Passholders, cause reasons I guess?!? The Disney I miss exists in my memory. I’m sure we will visit off and on but it won’t be with the same wide eyed wonder that I still had as a mid 20 year old. As this channel has pointed out there are a lot of other options throughout the Florida area and beyond that my family has had a blast at. Hopefully with the new change in CEO and pushback from Disney fans the ship can right itself. If not, you bet your ass I will be at the estate sale trying to grab a piece of Disney Memorabilia before the ship sinks.
@600HP_Camaro
@600HP_Camaro 2 года назад
My man gave CARS LAND a shout out!!! Thank you!!!!! Very well said - one doesn’t have to be a fan of the Cars franchise to appreciate the imagineering & attention to theming in Radiator Springs. This is coming from a Florida resident/WDW AP wishing I could be a Disneyland local instead. Poseidon, did you ever mention how DLR management seems to care more about their parks than WDW mgt? Curious what your thoughts are on the difference…
@maxrebo2466
@maxrebo2466 2 года назад
Cars land and radiator springs racers is one the last true Disney rides.
@two_another
@two_another 2 года назад
I’m still not over the replacement of Tower of Terror in DCA with Guardians of the Galaxy. Possibly one of Disney’s dumbest choices and a clear sign of the IP driven new management they’ve been taken up by.
@TouringBassist
@TouringBassist 2 года назад
And it's just downright ugly. They literally glued antennas to the side of the building and chose the ugliest possible color combos. Doesn't even match the IP. The ride system is fun so people dig it but I find it insulting in concept and nauseating to look at. Thank god the OG one is still one of the all time greats in Orlando but I'm sure they'll turn it into something dumb there as well.
@two_another
@two_another 2 года назад
@@TouringBassist They said they’re not replacing that one thankfully but I don’t trust Disney these days… More focused on cashing in on IPs than they are quality.
@lauragb3677
@lauragb3677 2 года назад
Our stay at the Polynesian and visit to 3 parks during that stay in February, reflected the negative points mentioned here. The paid for Genie experience was disappointing and nearly useless, as was reducing the early entrance from 1 hr to 1/2 hour. I was scouting it out for a family trip next year for 12 of us and my decision was that Sea World and the Hilton would be better for the age of the kids...waits in the Magic Kingdom for toddler rides were 90-135 mins....parents told me they got on 2 rides and saw 2 shows for their day in the MK park.
@two_another
@two_another 2 года назад
This summed up my feelings on how immensely corporatist Disney has became so well… It honestly makes me sad. They really only care about IPs now instead of creating anything genuinely interesting or of substance. It’s honestly amusing to watch Universal outdo them these days as before Harry Potter, Disney was considered 1st and Universal 2nd. But this is suddenly not becoming the case because of Disney’s mindless consumeristic ways.
@anaalicia5029
@anaalicia5029 2 года назад
I enjoy having Disney+, so many classics and recent bangers like Tangled and now Encanto, but for me the parks are now too overpriced. I can’t enjoy it when the greed is too difficult to overlook.
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
I really like the media side of the company, even if there have been a lot of misses. It's great having Disney+ just for the huge library of films.
@jaredhebert942
@jaredhebert942 2 года назад
Another good video; I don't think I recalled the parks getting hurt this bad & this long under Iger (it's even a shell from when my family & I went to Florida back in 2014!); I hope things are allowed to improve with Susan Arnold and Chapek (if he can get past his own vices as a student of Iger) as well as to refocus on what want Disney the company was in its best days - I'd love to see them undo the Mickey Mouse Protection Act or let Marvel, Fox & Pixar be their own companies again with their own IP ownership reset more-or-less, but I know they'd need to crawl & walk first. Also, I'd be curious to see how you might lead your own idea for a park for Universal, Disney or someone else as a creative exercise (as well as possibly getting the attention of some aspiring Imagineers).
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
The main issue with Iger for most of his tenure was just the lack of investment he put into the parks. He only made moves when it was absolutely needed like rebuilding the DCA entrance or putting a few more rides into Hong Kong. Otherwise, the parks mostly sat stagnant until Universal scared him into doing something. Now that the channel is growing, perhaps I might find the time to produce more of "Here's what I would like to see" kind of videos. Still, I'm hesitant to do so because generally I dislike seeing other people armchair Imagineer their own ideas and I think mine would come off the same way.
@Mark-pe2sh
@Mark-pe2sh 2 года назад
Disney used to regularly send me surveys after a park visit. One I gave them a completely honest review they no longer send surveys, not one since. I take a great deal of pride now in writing reviews of the poor quality of the food and the dishonesty of the food vlogs claiming they ate at the various "quality" restaurants in WDW. Each of the food vloggers makes claims about the food that was prepared for them. I have friends who like to go to Ohana, Boma, etc. We watched the food reviewers claim various food items were on the menu when they were not for available for anyone other than the food reviewers. Even one reviewer claimed Ohana was serving Hawaiian rolls instead of the advertised two types of dinner biscuits. The Hawaiian rolls were "heat and serve" biscuits we used to buy for $1 a package a few years ago at Publix and they weren't heated. They give you sweetened butter to give the impression you are getting something special. Ordinary, cheap biscuits with a $55.00 meal. I tell people to go to Fogo de Chao a couple miles away and they were get a meal that surpasses any meal they will get at any disney, institutional food serving establishment with better service and superior meat choices to the tough steamship beef disney serves at prime rib.
@WEdway33
@WEdway33 2 года назад
This is so true, you need to be the leadership in Disney. You know more than any of their execs. I actually scheduled my next trip to Universal. There is no longer a reason to stay there. There are so many off site hotels so close to Disney or actually in the center of everything that exist. They removed the nostalgia in place of a shopping mall with half ass attractions. Thank you for these videos, you put into words what us Disney people are feeling....
@BendyBabyBri
@BendyBabyBri 2 года назад
I’ve been thinking a lot about this topic lately. Thanks!
@grandpawjeff8710
@grandpawjeff8710 2 года назад
We have been going to WDW since shortly after it opened going on our honeymoon, later taking our kids and grandkids for years. I am sad to say with all the price increases and complications of trying to get on rides that we will no longer be going and that really makes me sad. I am a very big Disney fan but I think they have gotten away from having a place that you could take your family and have a good un stressful vacation. This is NOT what Walt had in mind.
@emilyofjane
@emilyofjane 8 месяцев назад
Bob Iger began chipping away with an ice pick, Bob Chapek came in with a sledgehammer, and now Iger is back to finish the job with a bulldozer.
@Patchwork101
@Patchwork101 2 года назад
I really appreciate you talking about Iger's role in all of this. With Chapek's many blunders since taking over, I've seen a lot of people starting to remember Iger more fondly when a lot (but not all) of Chapek's decisions continue the direction that Iger started!!
@LauraBow
@LauraBow 2 года назад
I do notice there's a lot of vids of Disney rides looking old and unkempt/ broken down. Like how are they going charge a premium price and have rides looking like that?
@ashtonbyrd3686
@ashtonbyrd3686 2 года назад
Honestly, it’s sad to see Disney becoming something unrecognizable..Sure, it does give us good movies, and some other things. But the problem, it’s relying too heavily on IPS for new rides and toys. I love new rides like the next guy but relying too much on your new movie for another cool ride or so you can get more merchandise is just makes it a tad silly. I still love the Disney company itself and it’s fanbase/group. But, I miss the old days where we they didn’t have to shove too much IPS down people’s throats. I just want the best for the company even if their boss is cheap like Mr.Krabs from spongebob squarepants lol. Sorry for my rambling, I was just giving my opinion but doing it in a respectful and understanding manner.
@slob5041
@slob5041 Год назад
I think what iger and chapek didn't understand is that these rides are their own ips in themselves, and when they alter to mix in ips they consider to be more popular it becomes more like smash bros than just a self contained property.
@Midwest_Coasters_
@Midwest_Coasters_ 2 года назад
I hate that Disney just completely ignores sightlines now, it's sad
@PoseidonEntertainment
@PoseidonEntertainment 2 года назад
I thought about including that into the video, but the paragraphs were all long-winded as is.
@deadpilled2942
@deadpilled2942 Год назад
I miss the Michael Eisner risk taking. I know Euro Disney was a huge blunder, but so is the Star Wars experience, and the Jedi Hotel debacle
@claudiaaguilar6845
@claudiaaguilar6845 2 года назад
The Disney Company does not care about the parks, in fact they are just an annoyance. Like the closing of bank branches in lieu of virtual transactions, Disney is looking to grow its virtual presence where they can really rake in the money and affect the culture in all sorts of dark and corrupted ways. They even admitted as much.
@atsirdsart7386
@atsirdsart7386 3 месяца назад
Wow, Bob Igers statements on the commercialization of the Disney Parks are disgusting. I assumed his poor management of the parks was based on incompetence, but it sounds like it's all very calculated. I felt real magic and a quiet sense of dignity when I visited the Magic Kingdom last year for the first time, but I felt nothing when I was in Star Wars Land. It was tacky and everything interesting available in that area is nickled and dimed out of you. Or, more realistically, 50s and 100s'd out of you. The Cantina doesnt even have seating for 80% of its patrons, to ensure you don't stay too long. They make you stand and eat, and rush you out to get new money in faster. Its despicable. I wish Walt were alive to see his company being ran into the ground.
@phillipdingeldein4072
@phillipdingeldein4072 2 года назад
Intelligent, perceptive and observant (a real rarity anymore). Thanks for the great content in all your vlogs!
@officialmonarchmusic
@officialmonarchmusic 2 года назад
I'm so thankful you called Disney out for only showing sequel trilogy scenes, it's completely ridiculous and never gets called out for some reason
@laurawallace8423
@laurawallace8423 9 месяцев назад
As a now adult who started going to the parks almost 30 years ago, I was most recently disappointed with the insistence of IP at Hollywood Studios and Epcot. I used to love those parks because if I wanted 'stereotypical' or traditional Disney, I found that at Magic Kingdom. But if I wanted something different, exploratory, but still magical, I could visit the movie or international magic of the other parks. I agree that this downfall is the direct responsibility of the corporate figureheads who do not actually appreciate the artistry and imagination that are required to make their parks a success. I hope this trend will reach a peak and those in charge will finally listen to those fans who fund their paychecks. I'll keep my fingers crossed, but continue to lose hope each day.
@brettmarquez562
@brettmarquez562 2 года назад
The level of detail in the Harry Potter areas of Universal is extraordinary. I think Epcot has great detail, but the missed opportunities to include area specific rides is ridiculous. There should be a CoCo ride in Mexico, and a Mulan ride in China to give an example.
@verraque
@verraque 2 года назад
legit find myself watching these videos because of how well the narration is done. like almost too perfect of a speaking voice
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