Of course people are still looking at your old lessons Adrian! hat you put on the net is gold, an anthology that is invaluable for those who want to keep this music alive.
This video is awesome! I’m a teen that just stumbled upon New Order in my dad’s music library and became obsessed with them and Joy Division. I just started playing guitar today and I’m so happy to be learning one of my favorite songs.
My favorite thing about this lesson is your comment about how that guitar riff lands on a different part of the bar during the second verse. Stuff like that is gold for me because it makes me a better listener and makes me think a lot more about an otherwise simple song. I doubt I would have noticed this on my own.
This was just awesome Adrian! I appreciate that you included both the guitar and bass parts, I will definitely learn both and enjoy both! Have a great weekend!
Love your lessons and really love your choices, would really like to see a breakdown of one of the Gun Club's tunes, maybe For the love of Ivy or Fire Spirit.
Great lesson! I wish you would do more dual guitar/bass lessons, or even just bass lessons, for all these classic alternative/post-punk songs that you discuss.
The second bass part played on the record really sounds like a mistake, and I think Hooky mentions it in an interview, but it says so much about Martin Hannett as a producer that he left it in.
Thank you so much! I have loved Joy Division for a while and always wanted to learn some of their songs but could never find a guide that covered bass! Now me and my friends can play the song together correctly
Great vídeo, thank you, disorder is such a good song to play. I would love to see Romeo's distress by Christian Death, It is a great song. I love your channel, you have such a good taste in music.
Your New Dawn Fades video was how I discovered your channel, shocked that anyone would do a video lesson for this music I grew up with, and been a big fan ever since. (Side note apropos of not much: highly recommend Hook's book Unknown Pleasures to any JD fans, not great art but a rollicking good read.)
A famous musician once said to me ‘JD will be great when they learn to play their instruments’ I actually think their inexperience is the reason these songs sound so different and so atmospheric.
Well done Adrian I've been playing this in different places on the guitar and thanks for the bass as well I don't have one try most of hoots lines on my lower strings. Once again you explain things simply and make easier for the likes of me .CHEERS
Ah, takes me back to when we were kids first learning our instruments, this is one of the first songs we did. Never could figure out that weird bassline during the guitar breaks though, I think we just winged it somehow.
Great!! Would love to see you do a Modest Mouse lesson once. Maybe a bit of an odd request, but I've gotten into them and they have some amazing guitar work. Especially on Lonesome Crowded West. Isaac Brock is a guitar hero
On the original recording Bernard Sumner was using a Shergold Masquerader and Peter Hook was using a Hondo Rickenbacker copy - what they are playing in the Something Else show video on RU-vid
Kind of ironic that the opening of the first New Order single, Ceremony (actually a Joy Division song) was a very similar riff (albeit two semitones higher) to the first track on the first Joy Division album.
Late to he party, but great idea to include the bass line. I have a bass (bought for my son) that doesn't get played much, but it's cool to learn bass lines too.
Really like your videos, JD/NO are fun to play. Listening to their live sound, Bernard Sumner did an excellent job on guitar. One track I started figuring out is Spitfire by Public Service Broadcasting which has a cool sounding middle riff that's not too out of reach.
Great job, good lad. I only disagree with one statement: I think a song like this is all about the details! You did a fantastic video tho thanks. Btw in the last overdubbed part I think there is a lower power chord as well. Cheers!!
Been listening to JD/NO songs for 40 years but I've only just realised that the guitar part in the verse of this is very similar to the opening bass riff in Ceremony.
I've always loved your guitar lessons, but I especially love this video because you're playing a bit of bass. I've played both guitar and bass for years, but guitar is getting a bit beyond me due to some ulnar nerve problems that affect my left hand. I'd love to see some more bass stuff if you can (specifically, anything involving Hooky).
One of my all time favorites! I’ve been meaning to make a backing track of this song for myself, any chance you’ll be sharing yours? Also, Sumner was using a chorus/vibrato when performing this song. Not necessarily how they did it in the studio of course
@@latontolog it definitely sounds like chorus which would have been around by then, but Martin Hannet, the producer was known for doing things in an unorthodox manner. He had an entire array of delays he would use to create various echoes, reverbs, and probably chorus sounds
joy division sound as god today as they did back then. now i think this evening , while gaming online with my mates, i'll play joy division and the first new order lp.
Hello there Adrian, could you possibly prepare an Atmosphere lesson either entirely for guitar or for bass also? I feel this is their most thoughtful and sometimes overlooked piece.
Interesting to see how you play the bass part. I always play it with fretted notes only, and played in one position. The way you play it seems much more likely to be the way Hooky did it, as he rarely (if ever) uses his little finger to fret notes and favours open strings wherever possible. There's also that great ending where it holds on the low F and then ascends to end with the slide between ninth and twelfth frets. On a pedantic note, the Unknown Pleasures sessions weren't the first time they'd been in a studio. They'd recorded several demos (the second released as the debut EP), an unsatisfactory first album, sessions with Martin Rushent producing and their first time in the studio with Hannett that ended up on the "Factory Sample" release. As for equipment, it was either a Gibson SG or similar sounding Shergold upgraded with Di Marzio Super Distortion pickups and Fender bridge. The amp was a rare Vox that has a solid state pre into tube power amp. Effects were most likely either a cheap Melos tape echo or Hannett's secret weapon, the crazy Marshall Time Modulator. Hope this doesn't come across as too much pedantry and excessive detail!
Oh, and bass gear would have been horrible Hondo Rickenbacker copy into either a Sound City or Hiwatt amp (not sure when Hooky switched amps) into a dual 18" Vox Foundation cabinet. Which is the exact setup - with the Hiwatt - that I use in a Joy Division tribute, along with a Yamaha BB1200 (the non active version) for Love Will Tear Us Apart). The Yamaha bass can be seen in the LWTUA video, and was later replaced with the active version when the first one was stolen during New Order's first US tour.
Thanks for the comment Chris. Pedantry and excessive detail very welcome here! Thanks for putting me right that they'd been into the studio prior to the Unknown Pleasures sessions. Also, fascinating info on the likely gear used on this recording - thanks for sharing.
it was very interesting for me to look at this as i already know how to play the song on both bass and guitar and see how different it was played on this lesson, usually the guitar part for me is played on the 8 and 10th fret of the d and g strings and then for the second part of the riff at the 8th and 10th fret of the a and g strings, the bass part too is different i usually play it with a E flat on the g string to a G on the d string then to the B flat on the e string and back go the G on the d string