DISPENSATIONALISM vs. COVENANT THEOLOGY

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What are the differences between dispensationalists and those who believe in covenant theology?
Calvinism vs. not Calvinistic.
What does the Bible say, can a normal person understand the differences and use the Bible to defend their position?
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@paulmandry2566 11 месяцев назад

Sir, I just came across your video. I went from years of affirming Dispensationalism to now affirming Covenant Theology. I studied the sacred scriptures, and became Reformed in my theology. I have studied and taught Covenant Theology many times in past years. Some of the things you state are so off the mark on what Covenant Theology is that I don't have the time or space to write about it at this time. You do seem to be someone who truly wishes to faithfully and accurately share the word of God with His people. So, I pray that you remain open to more relevant instruction on the topic of Covenant Theology. God bless.

@SpotterVideo 11 месяцев назад

What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the RU-vid videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

@edwardwalsh5477 11 месяцев назад

BOTH systems are correct but not contemporaneously. Covenants except the New C. applied to Israel - some still do. The Dispensation approach is broader than Covenant T. because it begins before Israel existed. There limitations and flaws when world events are stretched to cover more than Israel.

@SpotterVideo 11 месяцев назад

@@edwardwalsh5477 Are you claiming the Old Covenant is still in effect for some people, even though the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:6-13?

@edwardwalsh5477 11 месяцев назад

@@SpotterVideo It's not simple. After Jesus' ascension, the apostles continued with a kind of church but not the Pauline Body of Christ. Read Peter and S's sermons to see that they were a repentance, baptism and works for salvation much as what Jesus taught before His rejection but the Apostles never left Jerusalem to preach the gospel to every creature and the communistic community (characteristic of the Kingdom of God) failed - needing support from the gentile churches outside of Israel. Also, the miracles mentioned in the early chapters of Acts declined and by the end of Acts disappeared because Israel for whom these wonder works were to be a sign and characteristic of the Jewish Kingdom, often mentioned by the Apostles, also failed with "we will not have this man reign over us". Thus God rendered the Messianic covenant with Israel dormant with the stoning of Stephan. The opportunity for the 12 Apostles to carry their evangelistic mission became dormant also. In the meantime, God called ONE Highly improbable man to carry one new gospel (of grace vs. of the kingdom) to the whole world not just gentiles but all who believe Jesus to be God's son who died on their behalf and rose again as the transformed head of a new race succeeding the Adamic failure all around us now. ANSWER: Old covenant motivates most Jews who have expectation of a messiah but that's because they are temporarily blinded spiritually. Effective now is the period of God's gracious gift to the entire world, NOT ANY COVENANT. Remember that you are quoting a letter to Israel a covenant people and this passage appears prophetic to me. The old covenant is rendered obsolete but the new has not yet replaced it. When this current period ends and the tribulation clears the Earth and punishes Israel to God's satisfaction, the NEW COVENANT may begin between the entity of mankind and God. I'm still trying to sort these future events out, but the past is past, and Scripture clarifies what God was doing as He interacted with Gentiles (drowned in the great flood) Jews, apostles, disciples, and enemies of the Gospel of the Kingdom and God's sacrifice of his son for the portion of mankind that accept Him. The marriage supper of the Lamb is a separate event that is simultaneous with the horrors of the Tribulation after which I understand the new covenant will become effective. I hope that helps and I hope my analysis (with the help of commentators) does not mislead.

@SpotterVideo 11 месяцев назад

@@edwardwalsh5477 The Old Covenant was already made "obsolete" by the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:13, and completely passed away about 5 years after the verse was recorded during the Roman siege of 70 AD. The text of Heb. 12:18-24 was written in the present tense during the first century. We are not come to Mount Sinai in Heb. 12:18. We are come instead to the new covenant church of Mount Sion and the blood of Jesus in Heb. 12:22-24. How could it be any clearer?

@maxsmith3335 11 месяцев назад

Paul wasn’t forced to believe but also was unable to deny…My conversion was very similar. In one moment I was literally incapable of believing and in the very next moment I was incapable of unknowing the reality of God. You can’t unsee what you’ve seen. So while God didn’t force my will to believe my will is definitely held captive.

@Iccdoc 11 месяцев назад

You are regenerated by the holy Spirit. You cannot respond positively to God until that happens.

@johntrevett2944 11 месяцев назад

Can you show me, IN SCRIPTURE, where one is regenerated prior to saving faith?

@stevenaguilera9202 9 месяцев назад

@@johntrevett2944 It isn't Scriptural. Even Romans 10:17 says Faith comes by hearing and hearing from the word of Christ. And John 6:44 says Noone can come to me(Jesus) unless the Father who sent me DRAWS him. When you put these passages together, God draws people to Jesus VIA HEARING THE GOSPEL. And at that moment is when we decide to have FAITH or not. It's that simple. The "regeneration precedes faith" is alien and makes no sense tbh.

@johntrevett2944 9 месяцев назад

@stevenaguilera9202 I agree. I would agree with calvinism 100% if I was ever shown this in scripture, but it isn't.

@maxsmith3335 9 месяцев назад

@@johntrevett2944 John 3:8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” There is a reason one person responds to the Gospel and another doesn’t and it has NOTHING to do with the will of the individual. Either the Spirit of God moves on that person or He doesn’t.

@gregoryfairchild2460 11 месяцев назад

God is not the author of confusion. He said what he meant.

@X4ert 11 месяцев назад

Exactly....and HE meant what he said.

@lightworker4512 11 месяцев назад

God is oneness, Unity, transcends duality. Men are the authors of confusion. Men have their biases and agendas in the written word. The Creator does not have the petty low consciousness of man

@edwardwalsh5477 11 месяцев назад

@@lightworker4512 Didn't Jesus declare that he was here to set father against child, mother against daughter?

@Belmont1714 11 месяцев назад

@@edwardwalsh5477 You're twisting His words.

@lightworker4512 11 месяцев назад

@@edwardwalsh5477 No, he never said that. Jesus never wrote one word down as a matter of fact as he never came here to start a religion.

@jica4141 11 месяцев назад

Maybe I'm too much like a little child (tho I'm 72), but i keep things simple ~ only 2 labels i use are saved and lost. I've been thoroughly, completely saved for 63 years, tho the life that began as a seed has grown into a mature, fruit producing tree. My faith has been tested by fire, but my Father God has been faithful to His Word and kept all his promises to me. I expect to be with Him for eternity soon, either by death or rapture, but in the meantime, I'm going to share about Him at every opportunity and use my resources to spread His gospel of salvation. I have compassion for anyone who doesn't know the peace of God, and peace with God, that i do. I have sweet fellowship and harmony with Believers, which i believe the Father desires. I have guidance and strength to face what the fallen world throws at me from the inspired Word. But best of all, i have so much joy and contentment from my relationship and constant companionship of Jesus. Fasting, prayer, meditating on the Word, teaching and serving those in my small corner of the world keeps me occupied until that final day. Marantha!!

@christianuniversalist 6 месяцев назад

Being saved from God is not being saved, it’s being spared.-that is not the gospel.

@marieeab01 4 месяца назад

I’m with you, stay out of camps and follow the The Lords commandments.

@lw6138 11 месяцев назад

I really appreciate this.

@ThecrosseyedTexan 11 месяцев назад

I've always felt this way God can hold two different things in his head at the same time just like the rest of us can. I don't know why that's such a hard concept

@paullockyer7905 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for this explanation of the difference between Dispensationalism and Covenant Theology. I’ve always wanted to see and hear this direct comparison. It explains why some Christians I know have what appears to be crazy ideas sourced from replacement theology.

@rocketscientisttoo 11 месяцев назад

Wow, the allegorical approach is almost an exact parallel with the Roman Catholic approach in as far as the people could never really know what the Scriptures said unless and until they heard it from a priest.

@johnflorio3576 11 месяцев назад

That’s not what the Catholic Church teaches. Sacred Scripture cannot be privately interpreted (2 Peter 1:20).

@edwardwalsh5477 11 месяцев назад

@@johnflorio3576 Peter was right but what's the alternative? I say it's Scripture (not their personal opinion - Peter) that enlightens bible students. And it's not some Priest either. Jesus, himself, told his disciples that they did not need to find someone to call "Father" because they had "one father in heaven" and Hebrews (whole chapters 1-4) identifies Jesus as the everlasting, perfect priest of all post passion believers. Drop the sacerdotal system and go DIRECTLY to God in prayer on the authority of the personal savior "in Jesus' name". Paul promised that God's Holy Spirit will help those as they pray.

@lightworker4512 11 месяцев назад

⁠⁠⁠@@edwardwalsh5477I agree with you, you can connect to the Creator on your own. I’m Jewish, and the first Hebrew letter beginning the Bible is BET, the second letter of the Hebrew alphabet and not Alph (one). BET signifies we are born blessed ( Baruch) with a spark of the Creator concealed within us while being born in this world of contrast. Our greatest purpose is to reconnect to the Creator within us and integrate our divinity with our humanity.

@edwardwalsh5477 11 месяцев назад

@@lightworker4512 Since God is spirit and we are only part spirit, we depend upon Him to learn about and communicate with Him. The methods he chose over millennia, have varied - directly (Adam and Eve) until the Fall when estrangement began. Then thru His selected spokespersons such as Noah and later via multiple prophets but now, on the authority of Jesus, we may address Him directly. However, we cannot make our own truth. In the natural world, God shows some things about Himself (reliable, powerful, etc.) but from prophets we get verbal communication opening the path to closer relationship and better understandings. His current highly accessible communications path is remarkable with nature, the written word, and His Holy Spirit combining to provide us with all we need to know in order to relate properly to Him. Currently the Holy spirit does not reside within all earthlings, Jesus promise of Him "will be in you" is being experienced by millions around the globe right now. Wonderful opportunity for the mending of the human divine relationship broken in the Garden.

@danielsilva9502 5 месяцев назад

@@lightworker4512 What about Jesus?

@thirdplace3973 11 месяцев назад

"You can't read the Bible and know what it says, you need the secret esoteric meaning of the text explained to you." This is Gnostic philosophy.

@DonnieHall-we9ry 11 месяцев назад

God bless you Brother Barnett ✝️✡️🇺🇸❤️

@Iccdoc 11 месяцев назад

Even the ability to respond and the desire to respond is given by God.

@michaeloreilly4040 5 месяцев назад

Or... We're all humans with no actual connection to the supernatural because the supernatural doesn't exist, and we're all just trying to figure out a good way to live.

@michaeloreilly4040 5 месяцев назад

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that none of us have any hard proof of anything, so in a world with no hard proof, we're all just trying to figure it out.

@charlespackwood2055 11 месяцев назад

Man, your church is going to be one of the smartest around.

@RezuSlasher 11 месяцев назад

It would seem that if the Lord says something that He intends to be primarily symbolic, not primarily literal, He'll plainly say whether it's a parable. He didn't leave anything unsolved (of things He intended we should know).

@tomcox5063 Месяц назад

Great presentation! I see so many of the covenant camp spewing hatred towards those with a Dispensational view. These are secondary issues

@billgolden4029 11 месяцев назад

Covenant theology believes in the principle of the anology of faith or let the Bible interpret the Bible not in allegory

@roycemcdougal9842 11 месяцев назад

It seems both have chosen to use time elements as they decide (ie. 1 day = 1 year, 6 days of creation = 1 days is but a 1000 years) Please decipher, thanks.

@johnpatmos1722 11 месяцев назад

Five minutes into it, the speaker is so confused and unsure of his own understanding of the subject and leaves us with only a vague and likely skewed view on the subjects.

@peteverhelst2088 8 месяцев назад

I’m of the reformed perspective. I’ve heard one of our ministers say that there never was a covenant of works. It is all grace from the creation onward.

@fightthegoodfightoffaithmi8676 11 месяцев назад

Psalms 19:13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression. John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

@philipbuckley759 11 месяцев назад

good presentation, on both systems....thanx...

@besearchingforwisdom6267 11 месяцев назад

The only way to find peace in dying is to know about dying, and the opportunity we have for eternal life in the finished work of His Son, the Messiah, Jesus the Christ... Repent and believe

@notsure2105 5 месяцев назад

All I can say is when studying the Bible is cry out to God for the TRUTH. What is the TRUTH ? God will lead you and show you. So many of the teachings of the Church today no matter the denomination have been man made. They only cause division. Satan has attacked the Church continually over the time of the Church and the Church overall has failed in guarding the flock.

@blueeyesftlaud6593 11 месяцев назад

Allegorical..just let's everyone do what is right in their own eyes

@edwardwalsh5477 11 месяцев назад

Read history such as Judges to see where that leads. Not good except when everyone's eyes are free of "beams"; Jesus.

@notmyhome 11 месяцев назад

Amen and what a great day when we see HIM!

@bobwilson3980 11 месяцев назад

Us non believers will say the same thing. I bet we both will be surprise.

@Abacab965 11 месяцев назад

@@bobwilson3980ohh you're gonna be surprised alright !

@bobwilson3980 11 месяцев назад

@@Abacab965 what have you seen that make you think that anything in that old book is real. Because I haven’t seen one damn thing.

@bobwilson3980 11 месяцев назад

@@Abacab965 I see no reason or “proof” that any of that crap is real. I’m sure that those olden Kings had to make up god stories to stay in power. Especially when you order people to cut women’s bellies often to kill the unborn. To think that that god got carried over as the good guy.

@notmyhome 11 месяцев назад

Read 2 Peter chapter 3

@kelvinwilsonpoet3200 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for this history lesson. However about this new Jerusalem. It has 12 gates, each named for a tribe of Israel. What of the church? There is no 13th gate marked the church?

@rickyharris6608 11 месяцев назад

Good job

@suzanholland 11 месяцев назад

and then there is the Biblical view, which is neither of these

@gordonwells1626 11 месяцев назад

Agree Suzanholland…..The Apostle Paul calls us the Metachos (Partakers). This CT DP stuff is tedious and goes nowhere in the end….a distraction

@michealferrell1677 11 месяцев назад

Eschatology is a house with only two rooms in it one room consists of this age and the other the age to come . We can disagree a little on how the furniture is arranged but that is it .

@paullavoie5542 11 месяцев назад

My point has always been that 'your interpretation' always starts with the Bible couldn't possibly mean that so it must mean this..

@stevenaguilera9202 8 месяцев назад

When speaking against Covenant Theology ?

@n8thanisagpa584 11 месяцев назад

what do you believe pastor?

@vincentkyt 11 месяцев назад

Thank God for you pastor John

@johnfroelich8554 11 месяцев назад

Not so fast

@suzettebuxmann5913 6 месяцев назад

The English word testament derives from a Greek term meaning “covenant.” In Hebrew, it means “agreement,” “covenant,” or “contract.”

@All-Things-New 11 месяцев назад

Not sure that John PIper called be called NCT. He is a pure Calvinist. NCT sees One purpose revealed in Christ. NCT sees the Law as promise and shadow, not as an "administration" of the one Covenant of Grace as in CT

@deezynar 11 месяцев назад

The human response to God is to hide from him, and/or mock him. Adam hid because he had died spiritually. God hunted Adam down and redeemed him without any cooperation, or permission from Adam. Salvation happens by the Holy Spirit entering a predestined person at the moment that God set for him to be saved before the creation of the world. There is scripture for every claim I've made above.

@cowgirlo99 11 месяцев назад

Amen

@michealferrell1677 11 месяцев назад

Covenant theology uses the biblical model and Dispensationalism imposes an interpretive grid that is foreign to the text . That is what I learned after much time in SBC circles

@edwardwalsh5477 9 месяцев назад

So SBC thinks Dispensationalism is not Biblical? They have much to learn. Without divisions in Scripture and in time among people groups, there's too much contradiction in the Bible to be an effective guide. Too much to write here but there are books which will point the Biblical basis and different applications of BOTH covenant and dispensational "rightly dividing" of scriptures.

@michealferrell1677 9 месяцев назад

@@edwardwalsh5477 What I was trying to communicate is that I left the SBC ultimately

@edwardwalsh5477 9 месяцев назад

@@michealferrell1677 that's OK so long as you seek God's merciful salvation thru Christ alone.

@michealferrell1677 9 месяцев назад

@@edwardwalsh5477 I agree , and I am trusting in Christ alone

@edwardwalsh5477 9 месяцев назад

Isn't God great! With all the complexity of the material world (atoms to nebulae) and the mysteries of the invisible world living vs non-living and the constraints of time, even a child can understand God's plan for salvation and move to accept it!@@michealferrell1677

@bop-ya-good 7 месяцев назад

I have not entered into a covenant but participate in the dispensation of grace.

@arpik903 12 дней назад

Most Dispensationalists don't know enough about Covenant Theology to offer an opinion.

@wadem4955 4 месяца назад

Covenant theology vs Dispensationalism is essentially kind of like Catholicism vs Protestant. It steps out of the whole error, but retains many of the errors still clinging to the root that GOD deals with mankind differently throughout time and that "the church" replaces Israel. The sovereign does not adjust, HE adjusts us which is why the new heart... very important... New Hearts... Same Law... Also....Only Israel and Judah are in the new covenant... Grafted in to Israel.... Not the other way. It is a wild (gentile) olive branch grafted in. That branch will produce olives... just like the root. If it priduces acorns, pine cones, cherries, holly...etc... it will be broken off and replaced with the branches previously broken off grafted back in... Rom 11... One tree with one root... One GOD, One Law, one flock one shepherd. Once grafted in we are no longer gentiles Eph 2:12 we are fellow citizens so we need to stop clinging to our fleshly blood lines... This is Rom 8:7 carnal mind thinking I'm not Jewish so the Jewish things Jesus does don't apply to me...wrong... In HIM is neither Jew nor gentile.... just GOD. So if HE did it, if HE walked it, then it is our example 1 Pet 2:21, we should imitate 1 Cor 11:1, and walk as HE did 1 Jhn 2:6. We cannot reject the part of THE WORD in the flesh we think is Jewish by refusing to imitate that part of HIM... The Church began in the garden where two or more people were gathered HE was there. Church occurs more often in the Old Testament than the New, and it's always been grace thru faith which is why there isn't 1 single New Testament believer in Heb 11 The Hall of faith. Romans 1:20 HIS invisible attributes revealed in what has been made... The Heaven and earth are called as witnesses in Deu 4, and Deu 30... Why? Because unlike man Heaven and earth have no choice, and obey HIS commandments intrinsically. Man given the choice to disobey has the Heavens and earth right outside our windows showing us neither HE, nor HIS commandments change. Come out of her my children.....Rev 18:4

@danielnorman8595 11 месяцев назад

Now you know why people become atheist. Theology is not easy. That's why you need to read the scriptures time and time again so that you can weave together the seemingly paradoxical into your theology And come to an understanding. And you always wind up leaving it at this God is sovereign and we cannot know the mysteries of his purpose. Only our place, which is a slave that needs to obey.

@rolandobartolome7350 7 месяцев назад

The deceived doesn’t know that they are

@davescrimshaw7781 11 месяцев назад

The best, clearest and concise explanation i have heard.

@allison2941 11 месяцев назад

Had to turn this off. This is a great misrepresentation of Covenant Theology. “Somebody” has been indoctrinated in Dispensation theology and has not thoroughly studied covenant theology.

@user-dh3sd4so9b 8 месяцев назад

Exactly what I thought I didn’t even recognize my own Amil position Covenanters uh😳🤦🏽‍♂️???

@Watchmanonthewall626 8 месяцев назад

Racial Covenant Idendity are what all the covenants are based on.

@johnygoodwin3441 8 месяцев назад

I agree, this is really awful

@kyleoliva2411 7 месяцев назад

Correct, catholics would be covenant, and decidedly not calvinist. Starting out the gate with a misstatement like covenant theologians are almost 100% Calvinist is pretty wild.

@wish01bone50 7 месяцев назад

You are correct. It is a gross misrepresentation of Covenant Theology. Not only does he get that wrong, he even gets Dispensationalism wrong also. Nobody interprets the Bible in a literalist way 100%. Covenant Theologians are literalists in the classic definition of the term. Interpreting scripture by it’s literary genre and also interpreting scripture by scripture or the analogy of faith.

@lukewagner8871 11 месяцев назад

To simplify it. There are two covenants, law and promise. Galatians 4:21-26,28,30-31 KJVS Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? [22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. [23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. [24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. [25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. [26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. [28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. [30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. [31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. In the previous chapter Paul writes this. Galatians 3:16,27,29 KJVS Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. [27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Only those in Christ are heirs of the promise. The promises God made to the Fathers are in Christ. Ephesians 2:12-13 KJVS That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 2 Corinthians 1:20 KJVS For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

@Imsaved777 11 месяцев назад

My question is, how could anyone believe in covenant theology?

@gsp8489 3 месяца назад

Well, I was raised dispensational without even knowing what it was a thing until recently and based on the research I've done in the last six months, CT is really not like he is describing. His description of it really seems like he is basing his talk on what he heard another dispensational preacher describe CT as and not by actually reading or listening to any one who actually holds to CT themselves

@patrickmccarthy1121 2 месяца назад

My friend, this is not a true representation of CT. Plenty of better resources out there if you honestly want to know how people can believe it

@warriorpriestblog 22 дня назад

Tradition and a desire on the part of Gentiles to possess what God has promised to the nation of Israel.

@patrickmccarthy1121 22 дня назад

@@warriorpriestblog the church is Israel my friend

@warriorpriestblog 20 дней назад

@@patrickmccarthy1121 Funny. The Bible says the exact opposite.

@unworthy_outcast 11 месяцев назад

I disagree but you are an incredible teacher. I am not a Calvinist by the way.

@davidchase1439 11 месяцев назад

Being a reformed Baptist do see millennium still and believers water baptism

@Waltham1892 11 месяцев назад

This is very much like listening to folks talk about Star Wars vs Star Trek. Except, I think Star Wars and Star Trek are more important than this.

@MrMan-jf8yi 11 месяцев назад

In a spiritual sense, I see Judah as representing the church and the house of David as representing the nation Israel. In this view Judah being saved first represents the rapture. "The Lord also will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem will not be greater than Judah." Before the rapture the church will be on fire for the Lord to bring the lost to a saving knowledge of Christ through the gospel. "On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a firepot among pieces of wood and a flaming torch among sheaves, so they will consume on the right and on the left all the surrounding peoples, while the inhabitants of Jerusalem again live on their own sites in Jerusalem." I believe there is a physical and spiritual application to prophesy so Calvinism and Dispensationalism is a division of man not the Spirit. This could also represent the 144,000 before the war of Armageddon.

@glendagaskin151 9 месяцев назад

Dispensations have been simple for me. Why do we think we have to have all the answers. We live under grace. Adam another. Moses was given the law. Prophets warned the Jews. God was silent for 400 years. Then Jesus came to His own and was rejected by His own. The cross and the Apostle Paul were the last messenger of God. The people that think God has spoken to them outside the Bible. Jesus came and still people tried to get around Jesus Word. The truth that they don’t accept is the Book of Revelation is God’s final word. The simplistic truth is God sent Jesus and we have to believe. The church is the revelation of Jesus as Lord. He is coming back. That’s what matters. We are saved by God’s grace. The church was proclaimed by Jesus. I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL. IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP SEARCHING. HE IS FAITHFUL.

@gregmahler9506 11 месяцев назад

@12:43 - this was already fulfilled and it’s interesting that Luke uses the word “pierced” to the heart. Zechariah says “look on the one whom they pierced.” “Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ-this Jesus whom you crucified.” Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?”” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭2‬:‭36‬-‭37‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬ Notice how Peter also lays the blame on them for crucifying Jesus when we says, “whom *you* crucified.”

@user-uv3yc5bn7o 11 месяцев назад

The MOST RELEVENT verses in the Bible are almost never discussed. Revelation 2:9. And Revelation 3:9.

@parenthope3 11 месяцев назад

Very important...when I use the word Calvinism, I qualify that John Calvin was NOT a Calvinist.

@johnwhoissavedbygrace9975 11 месяцев назад

I got about 5-10 minutes in and couldn't finish. I know, from other videos, you're a smart guy. But it seems your understanding of covenant theology is very very wrong.

@markb.8756 11 месяцев назад

Do you have a link that explains CT as you understand it?

@TheMaineSurveyor 11 месяцев назад

@@markb.8756I’m not if this channel allows links in comments, but RC Sproul has a lecture series called What Is Reformed Theology? on the Ligonier RU-vid channel. It gives a basic overview.

@scottw1828 11 месяцев назад

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 BY WHI CH YE ARE ALSO SAVED, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 2 Corinthians 4:3 - But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: Luke 18: 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 AND THEY UNDERSTOOD NONE OF THESE THINGS, and this saying was HID FROM THEM, neither knew they the things which were spoken. You would have to believe the disciples following Jesus were lost at this time. That is ludicrous. They didnt un derstand the death, burial, and resurrection, much less believing it to be the good news gospel of our salvation.

@paulvoit5610 7 месяцев назад

Dispensationalism divides the Body of Christ into two distinct and separate bodies. In Galatians Paul denounces Peter for doing this.

@markanthony3275 6 месяцев назад

No it doesn't. Dispensationalism acknowledges the ETERNAL covenant God made to Israel. What does the word ETERNAL mean? It means nothing changes it , not even the new covenant or ANY other covenant for that matter.

@shayalynn 2 месяца назад

@@markanthony3275 Jesus formed a new covenant which is the only one that saves us. We only inherit by becoming joint heirs with the Son, who inherits from the Father. This includes Jews or Gentiles. It doesn’t matter. We all need Jesus. Being a physical descendant of Abraham doesn’t benefit anything. That’s why Jesus said to the scribes and Pharisees: “And do not presume to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father,' for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.“

@shayalynn 2 месяца назад

@@markanthony3275 Galatians 3:7-9 King James Version (KJV) Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Galatians 3:7 (Interlinear) Know then that those of faith, these are the sons of Abraham. John 8:39 "Abraham is our father," they replied. "If you were children of Abraham," said Jesus, "you would do the works of Abraham. Romans 4:16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may rest on grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham's offspring--not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.

@markanthony3275 2 месяца назад

@@shayalynn It doesn't benefit anyone that's true. However, God chose to deal with the people of Israel in a different way than those in the new covenant. In Ezekiel ch 35 :24-27 God is talking about the future, and He says of Israel..."I will take My people and I will put My Spirit in them and I will write my laws and commandments on their heart." When a person becomes a believer in Jesus Christ they receive the Spirit of God immediately. So who are these people who God calls "My people" who do not as of yet have the Spirit of God in them? It can only be the physical nation of Israel. God has two distinct peoples, and two distinct plans for them. Israel will go through the Tribulation, the church will not. Jesus will rule the world from Jerusalem and not Dallas Texas.

@formersarge 6 месяцев назад

I feel both descriptions were messy and not accurate.

@creamzzzz 11 месяцев назад

Helpful video

@dfelcman 11 месяцев назад

This is possibly the worst representation of covenant theology I’ve ever heard.

@neilwani1178 9 месяцев назад

There is one passage in the Bible that shows how people treat God's Word. In Luke 21 12-23, Jesus answered the question about the destruction of the 2nd temple. But in Luke 21 24-28, Jesus said Jerusalem will be trampled by the gentiles till the times of the gentiles will be fulfilled. And then the 2nd coming. The passage that shows how a person treats God's Word is Revelation chapter 11 when it starts to talk about the city of Jerusalem in the future. Rev 11 2 is future. The times of the gentiles will end 42 months from an event at the future 3rd temple in Jerusalem. It will be at a time 2 prophets will appear in Jerusalem. Why dont you covenant theology people post your study of Revelation chapter 11 here so people can see how you treat God's Word.

@brucedavenport7016 11 месяцев назад

There is only one type of Christianity that will guarantee your salvation. The one God established through his Son Jesus the Christ. Everything else is white noise! Repent, be baptised, get filled with the Holy Spirit, walk in Christ.

@mauricerobertson1944 9 месяцев назад

Jesus said that HE is establishing a new covenant through his blood for the remission of sin. Even if that is the only time the word covenant appears in the bible! Nothing can trump that. The word dispensation only appears 4 x times in the NT and the word Covenant 292 times in KJV. Dispensational theology created by man in the 1800. Spurgeon never preached dispensation theology. Why?

@suzettebuxmann5913 6 месяцев назад

The English word testament derives from a Greek term meaning “covenant.” In Hebrew, it means “agreement,” “covenant,” or “contract.”

@MaryLewis-jt5jx 5 месяцев назад

I heard Piper say he believes in a Millennium but Gentiles will be the leaders not Israel.

@kevinmoore3033 6 месяцев назад

Don’t let hatred for Jews cloud your ability to understand God’s Word.

@frankb9575 11 месяцев назад

Good morning Pastor John! I send your videos to people I know. Thank you for your service to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ 🙏 would you do a Bible study on The people or or explain how these cave man type skulls came about. Or were they regular people with differently shaped heads? Thank you and God bless you and your family! Frank B

@BranDonShowReal 11 месяцев назад

Micro evolution is real and proven. A lot of these skulls have been proven to be types of primates but there is no empirical proof they were types of humans. So much of the science we were taught has not been proven but is taught to us as if its factual

@imamjimjamlawrence 11 месяцев назад

Well people used to live a lot longer. 900+ years. Could that have something to do with the different shaped skulls?

@jeremy85 8 месяцев назад

this is a huge misrepresentation of covenant theology, to say we don't take the bible literally when it is literal is a lie. if anyone is wanting to get a true representation, i recommend you go to a believer of covenant theology to get an honest representation, rc sproul has an entire series on this for example. paul washer, voddie bauchman, charles spurgeon, john owens, are all examples of covenant theologians you can find tons of material on.

@SpeculativeEschatologist 4 месяца назад

New Covenant Israel Theology God made a New Covenant with the house of Israel into which 11 Israelites, having been discipled by God's genuine Son, entered. When Jesus of Nazareth (while still on the cross) drank the fruit of the vine, that New Covenant became active. Since Jesus had never sinned, all the blessing of the law of Moses became His inheritance- and the Treasury of New Covenant Israel. Since then, the gospel has been believed by gentiles who have been adopted into the house of Israel.

@paulgarduno2867 11 месяцев назад

In a few words; God couldn't explain what HE intended to say. But I can explain to you what really means. 🤔 nah !!! Allegorical could be anything! No wonder, so many different churches.

@travissharon1536 11 месяцев назад

The way you mentioned the dispensationalists were not always Calvinist, it makes me worry that you are of the opinion that there are only two choices, Amrinian Calvinism, or Bezan Calvinism.

@kevinboutwell2243 Месяц назад

Just to be clear the dispensation of grace is not whats being described here. I’ve never seen or ever will see anyone that isn’t a true dispensationalist according to Pauls gospel explain it correctly. It’s impossible to explain the dispensation of grace without understanding.

@newtsguy 11 месяцев назад

I know of no covenant theologian who alegorizes. Notice he has said "this is extreme." He knows the difference. He is a liar.

@RUGRAF-rf8fi 9 месяцев назад

The Bible explains itself. Man always mucks it up with it’s need to make it confusing or distorted. Christian true Christian is the only “ denomination” and follows the word of God guided by the Holy Spirit. Yes there are imagery to represent various aspects of prophetic texts. Let the Holy Spirit be the guide. The only rules and regulations for the True Christian is Jesus Christ’s. Seems too many want to be the governor of God’s word. I enjoy learning and connecting the two testaments and getting deeper understanding of each.

@philipbuckley759 11 месяцев назад

also know your subject.....dispensations....

@kyleoliva2411 7 месяцев назад

Catholics are covenant and decidedly not Calvinist, not sure how you could say almost 100% of covenant theologians are Calvinist?

@donhaddix3770 5 месяцев назад

DISPENSATION and COVENANTS do not contradict.

@randyd9805 11 месяцев назад

Scripturally the New Covenant did not begin until the veil of the temple was rent after Christ made the once and-for-all-time blood sacrifice of Himself on the cross as the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. EVERYTHING in the 4 Gospels prior to that was actually still under the Old Covenant including btw when Jesus tells Nicodemus, a Jewish man still under the law, that he "must be born again" and that you get born again by believing in the only begotten Son that the Father gave to the world as the sacrifice for our sins. This is crystal clear that the new birth was an OLD TESTAMENT DOCTRINE. It began with Adam and Eve believe it or not. This is very clear and indisputable if you simply believe what the Bible plainly states in crystal clear language. You will find over and over in the 4 Gospels the law is still being kept and Christ Himself perfectly keeping the law to the minutest detail from birth until death. You will find Christ teaching people to keep the law a number of times!!! I don't hold to either of the man-made distinctions of Covenant or Dispensational Theology because they both have serious errors. Some dispensational teachers, not all, teach that people were saved in different ways in all 7 of their supposed dispensations. That is so extremely unscriptural it makes me hot under the collar to think about it. Salvation has always and for all time been and will be by grace through faith in the shed blood of Christ. The teaching of especially Romans and Galatians make that so very, very clear. No person ever has been or could ever be justified by keeping the law or any other method other than faith in Christ. Some dispensationalists actually go so far as to teach you must be martyred during the tribulation period in order to be saved. That my friend is utter lunacy. I will say, if I was forced at gunpoint to take one side or the other I would certainly side with Dispensational Theology of a more conservative type that does not teach different forms of salvation in all 7 dispensations.

@onceuponareset-ho7fg 11 месяцев назад

John MacArthur calls himself a "leaky dispensationalist". I'm assuming that this means that he knows that his views on dispensationalism, has some holes in it??

@jafojafo5412 11 месяцев назад

No because he’s a lordship salvation believer .. which doesn’t fit with dispensationalism

@llewellynGS1 11 месяцев назад

Dr Barnett I am not sure what side you fall on (Calvinist? Dispensationalist? Other?) but clearly you have not studied Calvinism/Covenant Theology well at all. As someone who has been reformed in theology for over 15 years I can say that you have some gross misrepresentations here; and you mention some areas that I have never heard any reformed person talk about. First of all, you seem to say that a big thing with reformed theology is to see the Bible “allegorically”- this is totally false- where did you get this from? Secondly you mention that the covenant of grace can’t be a thing (you insinuate this) because the word grace isn’t mentioned until genesis 6. It seems very shallow to me, to say a doctrine can’t be true because a word does not appear. We for instance believe the doctrine of the trinity, though that word is not in the Bible. The convent of grace was first spoken of in Genesis 3, when God first promised a redeemer. Also, you say reformed people believe in replacement theology which is also not true, though I know there are people who believe that. However this does not represent most reformed people. You do not represent at all the main tenants of reformed theology- you don’t mention them at all. Best to stay off the internet, if you are so far off with your understanding.

@Rood67 11 месяцев назад

Doc was firing on all cylinders until he ran out of gas and run off the road; only the Jews will be on earth during the millennial reign?!? Jesus stated, where I am, there you will be also Jude wrote thanChrist is returning with thousand thousands of His saints Paul wrote that we will reign with Him (Jesus) Jesus laid out His plan for believers with the parable of talents; those who have been faithful will rule Jews are not the only ones living after the tribulation period. I have no idea where Doc got this thought from.

@Abacab965 11 месяцев назад

I must agree with you !

@JesseMgala 11 месяцев назад

At what minute mark did he say that "only the Jews are living after the tribulation period?" I'll wait.

@Rood67 11 месяцев назад

@@JesseMgalaou could just watch the video and listen. But since you’re too lazy for that; between 17:00 - 18:00 specifically around 17:30 - 17:46; with the statement being around the 17:40 point.

@JesseMgala 11 месяцев назад

@Rood67 I did watched the video and couldn't find your assertion. Maybe you should watch it again. I watched at the minute mark you've given me and here's the transcript. "...they become with 144 000 and *anybody that survives a tribulation that believed* through the message of the angel, the two prophets and 144 thousand, *they become the literal physical human beings that cross over from the tribulation into the millennial world of chapter 20 of Revelation..."*

@Rood67 11 месяцев назад

@@JesseMgala I'll not argue the point with you because you appear to only want to argue and be cantankerous. If you listen from 17:00 up; he specifically states the remnant (Jews) living in Jerusalem with the 144,000 will be the only people to inhabit the millennial kingdom. When by scripture, any that survive the tribulation period will be alive on earth during Christ 1,000 year reign. And by scripture, those that accepted Christ as their Savior now, will rule and reign with him.

@jaspin555 11 месяцев назад

The book of revelation makes apparent use of apocalyptic literature and terminology from OT prophets. It is silly to see everything in scripture as being all literal or all symbolic, it takes the Spirit of God and wisdom to understand. Yes, angels will at times give interpretation to things, but that does not mean everything else is literal. Take beasts and horns. These are clearly built off of Daniels prophecies, where we see they represent kingdoms and powers on earth. Ultimately we should not be sold out on any mans interpretation of scripture, but we should be sold out on seeking first God, and being in the spirit and prayerfully asking for understanding of his word. Are we followers of Yhwh or John Maccarthur?

@Paul-in-Australia 11 месяцев назад

I am a follower of Jesus

@jaspin555 11 месяцев назад

Im not saying we cant listen and learn from others obviously. But i do think the dispensational vs covenantal debate is much more nuanced than presented here. There are errors in both extremes.

@jaspin555 11 месяцев назад

@user-py2lu9hk4d wait, try telling God what exactly? Im confused about what you mean.

@cecilspurlockjr.9421 11 месяцев назад

@jaspin555 There's error in any extreme ideology .

@cecilspurlockjr.9421 11 месяцев назад

YHWH of course . Certainly never John MacArthur. Anyone who ties limited atonement to the gospel turns it into another gospel, a false gospel actually.

@philipbuckley759 6 месяцев назад

the basics....dispensation believes that Genesis 1 - 11 is literal, and that Israel still has a place in the plan, of God, and is not replaced, by the Church...where Covent teaching is the opposite...Gen 1 - 11 is allegorical, and the Church replaces Israel....

@stuarthart7888 5 месяцев назад

As a Covenant theologian I do not recognise so many of the statements made here. For example, I do not hold to the allegorical approach, unless obvious, as dispensationalists also do, nor do I hold to the church replacing Israel. But I do believe, as Paul wrote in Ephesians 2, that there is now no barrier between Jew and non-Jew. There is only one people of God. As jica4141 said, there are only lost and saved, and Jews and non-Jews are in both those categories.

@joelnorton9742 9 месяцев назад

Not all who believe in dispensations Are one thing. Not all who believe in covenant (new, old, melennial) believe in one thing.

@Samuelh777 2 дня назад

Covenant Theology ultimately leads to replacement theology which is very dangerous. We did NOT replace Israel. According to Ezekiel 40-48 and Revelation 20 the messianic kingdom of Israel will have a glorious future during the Millennial reign of Christ. A literal 1000 years after the literal 2nd coming of Christ. There are at least two reasons why literalism is the best way to view Scripture. First, philosophically, the purpose of language itself requires that we interpret words literally. Language was given by God for the purpose of being able to communicate. Words are vessels of meaning. The second reason is biblical. Every prophecy about Jesus Christ in the Old Testament was fulfilled literally. Jesus’ birth, ministry, death, and resurrection all occurred exactly as the Old Testament predicted. The prophecies were literal. There is no non-literal fulfillment of messianic prophecies in the New Testament. This argues strongly for the literal method. If a literal interpretation is not used in studying the Scriptures, there is no objective standard by which to understand the Bible. Each person would be able to interpret the Bible as he saw fit. Biblical interpretation would devolve into “what this passage says to me” instead of “the Bible says.” Sadly, this is already the case in much of what is called Bible study today. Dispensational theology teaches that there are two distinct peoples of God: Israel and the Church. Romans 11:25-26 makes that clear. Dispensationalists believe that salvation has always been by grace through faith alone-in God in the Old Testament and specifically in God the Son in the New Testament. Dispensationalists hold that the Church has not replaced Israel in God’s program and that the Old Testament promises to Israel have not been transferred to the Church. Dispensationalism teaches that the promises God made to Israel in the Old Testament (for land, many descendants, and blessings) will be ultimately fulfilled in the 1000-year period spoken of in Revelation 20. Dispensationalists believe that, just as God is in this age focusing His attention on the Church, He will again in the future focus His attention on Israel (see Romans 9-11 and Daniel 9:24).

@aservant2287 11 месяцев назад

God chose Isreal for service only to bring forth Christ's plan of salvation but not for salvation. There's no partiality with God Romans 2:11 and it's the Father's desire that ALL would come to knowledge of forgiveness 2 Peter 3:9. But it says in revelation 13:8 that the names for the lambs book of life were written at the foundation of the earth so He knows already who will be saved but He gives everyone a free will to choose. That's the sovereignty of God, He's the beginning and the end but man chooses life or death not the Lord

@stephenbailey9969 5 месяцев назад

Too institutional in concept. Israel > The Church. The scriptures make it very clear that the covenants (promises) to Abraham, Jacob, Moses, David are fulfilled in the Lord Jesus the Messiah. Will temporal Israel have a place in the end times? Probably. But nothing in scripture says that temporal Israel will be the good guys. The promises are still fulfilled in Christ, be the person Jew or Gentile in cultural background. As the prophets pointed out, just because a person was born of Israel did not make them redeemed. It was always by faith.

@johfu4705 11 месяцев назад

This is a very simplistic and inaccurate presentation of covenant theology.

@gsp8489 3 месяца назад

This presentation reminds me of when you didn't read the book so you ask your buddy what it was about and then write your paper based on that description the night before its due. Also, your buddy didn't read the book either, he just watched the movie.

@davidchase1439 11 месяцев назад

Are d Some pre mil CT like a Spurgeon

@davidchase1439 11 месяцев назад

I see Bible same way As Dr MacArthur so guess more like a calvinist baptist!

@philrussell6920 11 месяцев назад

Nonsense. He has misrepresented Calvinism in too many ways to be enumerated here. Do not be deceived by this relatively new theology. It misinterprets scripture and contradicts two millennia of Christian orthodoxy.

@ForeverHisforever 11 месяцев назад

IT'S COVENANT THEOLOGY

@cecilspurlockjr.9421 11 месяцев назад

Nowhere in scripture do we see GOD predestining or selecting people to believe . Those who are in CHRIST because they have heard and believed the word of truth are predestined to the adoption upon the redemption of the body unto glorification where we will be holy and blameless before GOD.

@SpotterVideo 11 месяцев назад

Read the recent book "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism" by Dr. Ken Wilson, to see the original source of this man-made doctrine.

@cecilspurlockjr.9421 11 месяцев назад

@SpotterVideo Thank you , I know, I watched him give a presentation on his book . Actual theologians know all of this stuff about augustine and Calvin, but these calvinist u tubers have blinded and indoctrinated so very many new or biblically illiterate Christians with their blasphemous gnostic teachings .

@SpotterVideo 11 месяцев назад

@@cecilspurlockjr.9421 How much do you know about the New Covenant, which is not found in the man-made confessions of Reformed Covenant Theology? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the RU-vid videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

@JesseMgala 11 месяцев назад

@@cecilspurlockjr.9421There are two entities that God has predestined, the elect among the Jews and the church. Any Gentile who believes in Jesus as the Scriptures say will become part of the church, His body. The elect among the Jews is what will make the "all Israel" in Romans 11:26. There is another group and this may include the both Jews and Gentiles. Rev 13:8; 17:8 talk about those whose names have not been written in book of life from the foundation of the world. Conversely, there are those whose names have been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world. During the tribulation they won't worship the beast. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, *whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.* Revelation 13:8 NKJV The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And *those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world,* when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Revelation 17:8 NKJV Paul talked about predestination. in whom also we, _the church,_ have obtained an inheritance, *being predestinated* according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Ephesians 1:11 KJV

@theeternalsbeliever1779 11 месяцев назад

Your assumption is clearly wrong, as Christ Himself stated twice in Jhn 6 that NOBODY can come to Him unless the Father calls them first. Later on in the same book, Christ told the disciples that He chose them, and not the other way around. None of the prophets or apostles came to God because they volunteered themselves. As Christ told Peter in Matt. 16, he knew who Jesus was because he Father made it possible for him to know.

@logannicholson6400 11 месяцев назад

Wow. You really need to learn what covenant theologians believe before you try teaching it. You created enough straw men to save the Kansas wheat crop.

@StarckCA 11 месяцев назад

Exhibits a very poor understanding of Covenant Theology.

@joykeebler1916 11 месяцев назад

- things are hidden into so the word of God as for Satan and the Devil and his angels to manifest towards and into their judgements

@user-lv6rd3lo7x 7 месяцев назад

How are the Jews going to see the Lord Jesus whom they have pearced,they are all dead 2000 years ago.This will only happen at Jesus Christ second coming with the resurrection so it will only be spiritually seen.

@philipbuckley759 11 месяцев назад

use technology to get better visual aids....

@bigbadmamajama11 6 месяцев назад

The only issues with some of the Dispensationalist view of Israel is to ignore genetic lines, most of us could claim that we are Jews, many of us have Jewish descendants in our heritage.

@johnday8677 11 месяцев назад

Why was I sent this completely useless waste of my time of a discussion about a farcical book of fiction made up by men. The reference to Hitler , brought up a Catholic, being influenced by Luther is daft.

@eltonron1558 11 месяцев назад

Small problem. Ever wonder why a book you call a farce, has lasted so long? Stood the test of time? Revered by millions? It documents God speaking to great crowds that HEARD HIM, at least twice. Yes it's by men who WITNESSED such things, so now you know the real reason it has credibility, not to mention the generational word of mouth, that relays the event WITHOUT the Bible.