Yes they pamper these kids so much in school that it becomes a common behavior. The principal and assistant principal are afraid of the parents and won’t suspend a misbehaving child. Parents excuse was their kids have an IEP bla bla. They have behavior coaches now to calm down these kids and whenever the behavior coaches are gone, they go back to be violent and nasty toward teachers.
Teachers are not the kids' parents or mental health counselors, they shouldn't even have to be disciplinarians period. I'm amazed all teachers haven't walked out
It’s OK to pull them aside and tell them what appropriate behavior is. Also tell them you want them to be successful and graduate and they need to behave in order to achieve that. Some parents don’t care about their kids.
@@BriceBettner I know. Some students told me they were physically abused, sexually abused or just plain ignored at home. 🥲 As an instructor who cares about the students, I do what I can to help.
@@BriceBettner actually behavior management is apart of the job of the students educational team because in teaching independence we teach children how to behave in the adult world.
Notice how the students don’t even talk to him and try to persuade him to behave, everything he is doing is an attempt to look cool and gain attention and admiration of his peers
What prevents the students from acting this way in Africa or Asia? Sincere question. Are there consequences? What are they? How are they enforced? By whom?
I'm a parent that volunteers once a week in a classroom and this is exactly what ONE student is like. He talks back to the teacher, cusses, crumbles papers in anger, stomps his feet, hits his head, etc. Today as he did his worksheet he was saying outloud "dumb shit" while doing his work correctly. In the beginning of the year he was wonderful. Honestly he was one of my favorite because of how smart and kind he was. But about 3 months into the school year he completely changed. The teacher has done everything she could, the school counselors know, he was sent numerous times to the principal, to other classrooms... Nothing is working! The poor students in class ignore the behavior now...even while he cusses. The boy's mother is informed almost everyday of his behavior. It's disturbing and frustrating! I absolutely agree something is going on at home because this was a complete behavior change. What can I do at this point? Oh at this is second grade so the student is only 8 years old.
Office ..ha...there is not any office in my country...a teacher deals with such students alone without any help... Our teachers haven t got the right to send the student out ...
I'm not a teacher but here's what I say: don't step in unless it's getting physical at some point. Most students try to learn, so in the end as long as you're doing your job, the disruptive student will be the one to blame for it if they impede on other people's learning.
Here is what I have done in the past in response to this EXACT situation: Step 1. Finish what I was doing without allowing this to become an immediate disruption. (Don't give it more energy. Give him a second to be alone and cool off.) Step 2. Get the class working on their next step too so that they are not all feeding into this situation with their attention, and so that I have a moment to deal with it without disrupting their learning environment. Step 3. Motion to Caleb and get him to meet me for a quick talk in the back of the classroom. "Hi Caleb. I can see from the way you sat down that something is not going particularly well right now. What is going on?" Step 4. Genuinely listen and care. Let him express himself. Don't judge. See if you can do anything to help. Step 5. Assert your expectations for today. What absolutely MUST happen? What can be delayed or compromised? Offer him a pathway forward, and state what you will do if he does not take it. (Continued in the comments.)
Example from my first week as a teacher on my own (I got some but not all of the above steps right): "Caleb" in this situation kept cracking jokes and shouting out in the middle of class. I had only known him for 3 or so days. I worked in central Phoenix at the time (rough urban area). During class, I would pause to let the kids laugh with a brief smile of my own, then kept teaching. After the comments became a little more off-task and disruptive, I answered, "Ok, thank you, Caleb. If you have more comments to share, please raise your hand next time so we can keep going with class." He responded well to that for a while, but then acted out again. I then did steps 1 and 2, but by then class was over. I asked him to hang back for a second and then did the next few steps. It turns out, he was on probation and would probably be going back to juvy in a few days, so he was, quote, "Just trying to enjoy my last few days of freedom." I said that I could understand that. I asked if he was going to be continuing the class with us remotely after that, or if all his coursework would change too. He said it would change. In that case, I explained that I couldn't have him messing around in a way that disrupted other kids' learning, but that I would be happy to do other work with him that he actually cared about so that his last few days out here wouldn't totally suck. I asked if there were any books he wanted to read, any types of writing he wanted to try out and have me give feedback on, anything he wanted to learn that I could print out for him, etc. Our conversation was short but... I still have a lot of unresolved feelings surrounding it.
I will also add that whenever I follow the above steps, the student's misbehavior is ALWAYS, I repeat, ALWAYS, the result of some other truly emotionally-taxing thing happening outside of class. Sometimes it's not so serious, such as, "I skipped breakfast and had an argument with my friend before school," in which case you can point out what's going on and the student will very typically be able to calm themselves down and get back on track behaviorally.
After I invite student to the back of classroom for a conference, what would you do if the student started disrespecting you and arguing? Or if other students in the classroom start misbehaving once you take their eyes off of them? That’s what happens in my classroom at my school. Several disruptions occur at same time, or students defend negative behaviors or laugh. And to be honest, I am a strong teacher with good classroom management, but these things happen at my school.
Can y'all not see that the teacher escalated the behaviour by A. giving the behavior attention and B. Her tone of voice she was using she should have used an even neutral quiet voice but also she singled him out which caused the outburst of "what are you looking at?" The teacher could have handled this situation much better.
@@bluelikekrishna ok the student was already in a foul mood and the teacher acting how she did escalated the situation because when you start yelling and shouting and making a fuss the student will escalate as well so if you don't react and talk calmly with out catching an attitude there's a better chance of avoiding escalation instead of just picking on the student and getting her self escalated thus the student pushing back and lashing out.
This kind of thinking is very as you put it stupid because when we learn how to deal with the behaviours and what they actually mean because behaviour is a form of communication and almost always has a purpose because some kind of need isn't being met.
@@ravengreywitch510 The school is to fill the need for education . If a kids need is to be the center of attention or the baddest SOB in class or demand the teacher spend all their time dealing with them they need to be elsewhere. Put your kids in that situation if you like, I won't.
@@nunyabidnis5407 it's not always attention that's what so many people think this is why behavior management is important because that teachers was reinforcing negative behavior and escalating the student further listen to her voice and observe how the student reacts to how she talks to him and it seems to me he was agitated even before he entered the classroom so something must have triggered the foul mood and the teacher treating him the way she did caused his mood and behaviour to escalate.
@@nunyabidnis5407 yes education but also more importantly it's to teach the children to be independent and behaviour management is very important because you can work out bad behavior. And I detest your first statement. Just because someone has poor behaviour doesn't mean that they are stupid kids have different ways of learning. Treat a kid like they are stupid then they will act like it. So no I don't agree with your very harmful statement that "stupid is forever." I think a growth mindset would be a step in the right direction for you.
This is NOT how it happens, the disruption almost NEVER comes from one student acting out alone. It occurs from usually at least 3 (and usually class sizes are around 30+) who see an opportunity to disrupt the class and piss off the teacher. Their disruption escalates llittle by little, noises, things said under their breath, until the teacher tries to address it and gets angry. Then other students join in. Once that happens the teacher can in no way single them out as the instigators...and they know it!
How defiant Caleb was in high school that he had a bad attitude and he crumpled the paper and make it like a ball and then he throw it at the floor and the teacher is not playing any games with Caleb because if Caleb doesn't pick the paper up he would have to go to the detention.
I Would NOT Aloud No Student like that in my class, Becaused He Does NOT care at ALL, He has Bad Manners, he has NO respected for Others and himself , So I Would NOT wasted My time with him at ALL!!
So, the better way to deal with Kaleb is to set with him and ask him so politely, how can I help and put him in a activity that he should forget about his current situation. As a teacher I would prefer to build a good relationship with Kaleb.
Stop badgering him and choose your battles. She could’ve easily ignored it and kept on teaching. If he doesn’t want to participate then leave him alone. As long as he does not disturb the class, then he’s fine. His reactions are directly a result of her power struggle with him.
@@abdulsarhal1809 That doesn't work. Kids aren't interested in being talked nice to to "get through to them." Their brains aren't mature enough yet, they're not mini adults, they don't care what you're saying...even if you do manage a come to Jesus moment, they might not have the tools or attention span to do anything about it. They need simple and firm consequences as a result of their actions.
@@jflsdknf Thank you for your response. I really appreciate it but there is always a way how to solve these issues. I have had a lot of disruptive students and now they are my friends. Thank you and good luck. :)
She didn’t have to say anything. It’s obvious something is bothering Caleb and calling him out isn’t going to build trust. A simple “Welcome Caleb” if he was just entering the class, then move on with the lesson. Once other students begin the assignment then check-in on Caleb.
@@zaebos0079 no he is right she zeros in had she ignored and kept an even tone and not gone straight for him he would have de escalated. I'm also studying to become an Educational Assistant by the way which is why I'm pointing out what she could have done.
@@ravengreywitch510 no he's not right, you're right about the tone though. I've got a teaching background too and once you allow students like him to change norms you lose in the long run because allowing disrespectful behavior will ultimately lead to other students misbehaving as well.
@@zaebos0079 he haven't you Heard of planned ingoring unless some one is in harm's way. His behavior wasn't putting anyone in danger so she could have continued to teach.
@@ravengreywitch510 I know planned ignoring. The teacher in the video doesn't react in the correct manner if there even is such a thing. But the behavior has to be addressed, doesn't have to be at that exact moment, but it must be done. All I was saying is that his behavior is not tolerable at all and he for sure harms others by acting like that, even if it's not physical harm. From my perspective teachers don't focus on explaining rules well enough. They have too many of them and they still are written using Negative examples e.g. Do not disturb class, Don't run. Etc. Also there are often no preventive measures e.g. telling kids exactly what to do so that it is visible whether or not they are doing what you asked them to do.
Great way to show what happens when you target a student and put the spotlight on them. They will shine and in this case, it is showing out. It would have been much more effective to get the class going in quietly checking in with Kaleb. Worst case scenario, he sits and refuses to do his work. There is no disruption to the classroom, Kaleb does not have to save face, and there is no relationship to repair. I see too many teachers mismanaging their classrooms the way it is happening in this video.
I am glad I read some of the comments beofre posting this. I personally did not like this video for several reasons; 1. It depicts what a number of Black and Brown students are going through everyday, especially in rural areas, 2. This teacher obviously cares nothing for this student, 3. Her classroom management is very poor (with students of color!) - BUT it was ironically crass how the makers of this video of the seven students we see, put FIVE Black students in the front of of the class room - as if to say "see this has nothing to do with race!" 4. Does Kaleb have an IEP? _ What grade level is he on? - Can he even do Algebra? 5. Given her tone, the sad part is honstly, it really doesnt matter what race Kaleb is, students who pose any behavioral challenge for many of today's teachers will get treated like this! - So as someone said below, Beacuse they have NO RELATIONSHIP with their students, all they try to do is one sided and they are quickly burnt out!- and do what many newbies (...and some oldies ) are doing - QUIT! SO THE STATE IF EDUCATION IS IN PERIL!
I would not have called him out in front of the whole class. That’s just asking for trouble. His was not that big of a reaction but she definitely set herself up for it.
Why is she calling out this student in class? Why couldn't she have spoken to him politely and welcomed him to class. He would have stopped what he was doing. He was not really being disrespectful Teenagers are not in control of their bodies, so he slouched in a chair and made a little noise. SHE disrupted the class and she called attention to him. If he was late, she should have already had policies in place to keep him from just coming into class late.
Teacher observation here: that student has to be instructed not wearing a cap during class. Caps, hats, hoodies off! They will try it every time but You’ll tell them every time. They are the raptors- you have to be the fence. 2nd observation: the furniture is totally not suited for such a tall man. Hew grew tall and strong, but his prefrontal cortex didn’t - he might behave like a ten year old in the body of an adult. Someone give this man a place where he can sit comfortably. 3rd he should sit in the front. 4th change the tone of your voice and don’t address him with his name all the time, he is not Siri. 5th deal with the paper later- if he’s without his material, it’s more painful for him when everybody else can work properly. I have the permission to send certain kids into a timeout without penalty for him or her. Will they learn there? Nope. But they will not learn anywhere outside of a 1:1 setting. I might have one or two kids without progress but the rest is fine and the kid hasn’t to deal with being a school quitter. He will eventually grow up, but I can’t change them during the valuable time in class. They know the game already and are used to confrontations with teachers and authorities. It gets them empowered. You have to play the all-seing-eye that is ready send laser beams and cannot break.
You seem to misunderstand what libertarianism and the first amendment in the class is. You can be individualized and not disrupt. Teacher should’ve just sent the student out into the hallway, walk out to them after a while and actually ask them what’s going on.
@@VlerkeDamne Not in my school. Leaving students unattended creates a liability. It can even result in a lawsuit. Teachers are responsible for students.
agreed! ive seen teachers pull this with other kids who are "disruptive" and it never helps. when a teacher treats that same student with some respect they do well in the class.
She is wrong. She could have asked him to step outside politely and she will deal with him shortly or ask him to stay after class to inquire about what’s going on. You never want to publicly humiliate a student in front of their peers. It makes them feel worthless and will make them retaliate more.
