That’s what tampering with evidence is lol she helped the other guy get rid of evidence of his crime which in this case was her dead body and you’re acting like 20 years is slap on the wrist no to mention she probably never gonna be able to get a job when she gets out
Name Original it is a slap on the wrist. She gets out and lives her life in 20 years while Vanessa is dead and her family will be left to mourn her for the rest of their lives. So yes 20 years is a slap on the face.
You telling me two individuals murdered someone in your own backyard and you didn’t even realize for over two months? This base is making the Army look like incompetente fools.
The nerve of this coward to kill himself after getting caught. He took her life and his own. He had a choice in his death. She didn’t. This hurts my heart.
It's a cover up the rabbit whole is deeper than what you think, this guy is decoy pretty much the real devil who did this is has high stats in the military and is being protected
Brutally beating with a hammer. Dismemberment, burned the body, and hid it in 3 DIFERENT PLACES??!!!! Bro wtf is wrong with those people if killing her wasn't enough
She wasn't the only soldier that was murdered at fort hood , there were several soldiers found mysteriously dead but they were all labeled as accidental deaths
CUTTING UP, BURNING AND HELPING BURY A BODY = 20 YEARS IN PRISON FOR "TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE"? SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY'S JUSTICE SYSTEM.
They charge with tampering to guarantee a conviction. We seen too many time where they try to over convict and the person gets off so , it's best to file a charge you know will stick because the judge will give the max on it.
They cut up her body and she’s only getting 20 YEARS????? Oh hell no idc if she didn’t kill her she helped her boyfriend cut up her body she needs LIFE!!!!!!!!
in 20 years or less this person who dismembered & cut up another human beings body will be back on the streets manipulating & lying about her past no doubt. I fear for whoever gets involved in her life in the future.
Can’t believe this woman is free on bond ! She killed a USA solider !!! Fort hood is covering up a lot bigger stuff ! Vanessa life matters ! No woman or man should be sexually assaulted or abuse in military !!! Let’s bring justice to Vanessa and her family !!! Horrible way she die in the hands and doing it so cold.
The real killer us still running the base. Cant believe so many soldiers kill and disappeared. Gregory was also kllid in the base fir sure and then they throw them out . They need to stop covering and find the real killer the Master of all.
Nereida Sanchez. The Military has been on a downward spiral probably since right after the Vietnam War. And it is not at all surprising to see that it has gotten this bad. God Bless.
@engineer99 completely irrelevant. "Portsmouth Virginia" ... next time, before you bring up this nonsense, take a stroll through Chicago's poverty-stricken neighborhoods 🙄
engineer99 are you kidding me? This shouldn’t have happened on a MILITARY BASE! She was serving her country she died on base not in combat!!!??? That should not be happening it is about the military. I am a woman 💀💀 you trifflin
Disturbing horrific story about young women who was there to serve her country and is brutally murdered chopped and burned and scattered... What a shame.. There is clearly more to this story but it ended with her and the monster.. Beware for the other monster in jail right now... She might end up committing suicide too.. Which we know is a COVERUP on the highest level..
Sheila Hall No the story sounds made up. Hopefully her family will have Vanessa body examined finding out the cause of death and that troll needs to take a lie detector test just insane . The whole story is botched . So did they kill that other man also. 😵🤮
I agree. There is no way no one would notice. He couldn't have done all that in one night. Rushing to clean up that room to leave it spotless...im sure the next shift would have gone into that same room the next day. Smdh this doesnt make sense
Victor De Leon I think the guy that “killer himself” knew more than he should have about the case and they needed him gone camera evidence gone as well Text call phone data missing body missing
Many things. One thing I've never understood "she was going to report him for having an affair with a married woman", I can think of no good reason to tell someone you were going to do that. You just do it. Either it's a 'story' being told, or she had other less just motivations. Apparently she told her friends and family that she was being sexually harassed, but was careful not to tell anyone who could do anything about it? Frankly, I think we're getting 'stories' from three sides on this. I certainly wouldn't want to be on the jury in this one.
To the Guillen Family, you are in my thoughts and prayers...may Vanessa RIP. This is absolutely heartbreaking and I pray Aguilar spends the rest of her life in prison.
@@dawnatkinson4307 PLEASE I BEG YOU... go on Google right now and Google women being released from jail due to covid/ pandemic reasons related to murders... then you could do the same with men! You will be SHOCKED
My cousin was killed in the military too and they said he committed suicide.. at the funeral he had bruises on his face like he was beaten.. sad government
A had a dream a while back that god showed me about ppl thats serving the country how they were being killed and lied to by the government but suppose to be protected
The same thing happened to my child hood best friend! He was fighting for a top position in the U.S. Army as a ranger and 4 days before we were supposed to go to a concert (he even paid for the tickets ahead of time) he was mysteriously found dead in his room. The army said he committed suicide, I don't believe that shit.
@@Banjoandguns I'm not going to post his name because right now his family needs some space and two I don't want to draw any attention away from this poor girl who has been missing for two months.
Everyday I drive to work I pass by the place they buried her for a while I didn’t realize this however I literally felt uneasy driving down that long country road. The energy was just bad now I know why smh may she Rest In Peace. being a veteran I know some of the things she went through so my heart goes out to her friends and family.
This is a big cover up he didn't because i herd the audio where the guy time also says he confessed this before he died and he had took a lie detector test that Vanessas family Lawyer says it was found he was lying and how he killed and cleaned up the blood in the room in 43 minuets no one herd her screaming imposible
That women should never be let out of jail I know she didn’t kill her but what she helped do to her body after the fact in my opinion deserves more then 20 years
Yes.. More then twenty imo.. Once u do something like that you are no longer just a human being, you're a disgusting monster they should never be trusted again
@Anthony Johnson Or maybe he's really the killer anad his gf was telling the truth. Anything is a possibility. He was involved either way and he took part in her murder/to what happend to her.
@Anthony Johnson hmm conspiracy. I believe there is a possible that there might be other men involved but that man and his gf ain't innocent. I truly believe they are the killers and culprits. The girl did not get justice at all. Military is an evil place..not safe for women. There has been many murders but they aren't getting justice. I lost all my respect for these people. They're like animals.
@@allee5451 what I cant get past is vanessa, told her family about a sgt, sexually assaulted her , but now the military is saying the black man killed her over vanessa spilling the beans about him sleeping with an ex military's wife ?? and now hes dead as well ! 🙄c'mon , this is a coverup, and I only pray that vanessa's family get real justice someday.. 😔
How is this surprising? Its always been like this and there is nothing you can do, am i being negative? Nope just stating facts and its often sad but true, even if you tried you wouldn't even make a dent on the system
Wake up and smell reality. This is exactly what happens. The USA is a country completely fixated on war. We have over thousand bases all over the world. We are currently involved in multiple wars over oil. We practically never help people in actual need. We have a WAR on drugs, a WAR on poverty, and a WAR on anyone that doesn't look like Jesus. The USA worships war by all kinds of names. It loves to make fun of the poor. It could care less if wages are able to maintain housing. For real, wake up and reality a sniff test. The USA is a dumpster for the elite.
@@ashbloodhound1446 I wasn't suggesting that at all lol. My point was since it's a black guy that killed her the media lost interest (can't race bait for ratings) and the violent BLM protesters don't care. Same as when black people kill black people which happens wayyyyyy to often or a cop kills a white guy which is actually more common the media dont really care and BLM can't really fundraise off of it so it stays as local news if that.
So he killed her because she was going to allegedly snitch on him for having an affair with that married ugly red headed thing? Why would she care? There's more to this madness. RIP Vanessa
Thug Nasty so venessa tells her mom the sergeant sexually assaulted her & the person they claim is responsible for her death commits suicide?? the conspiracy here goes higher up
It was the easy way out. He knew his life was over once he got caught. They say suicides go to hell so maybe it's a good thing, he'll suffer for life there idk.
Giving 💰so he doesn't get investigated or mentioned in this. Corruption is everywhere especially in the 🇺🇸 And what happened to Gregory Morales? It took them 2 months to make this story
I was in the same unit as Vanessa Guillien, same squadron. She died in the basement where i was living at the time in the barracks while i was active duty. Our chain of command tokd everybody to keep their mouths shut once newd about this hit the air. Definitely a corrupt unit.
Her mother and family said per Vanessa that she was being sexually harassed by A Sargent. Then apparently a Non Sargent kills her because she was going to report him for having possible relations with another person??? Why in the world would she care?!? Sounds like an excuse for The Sargent. No credible information that she was being sexually harassed. Okay.. What about the prositution raids a couple years ago IN Fort Hood? Then Another Fort Hood soilder goes missing for a year and they barely find him when they are pushing for Vanessa's justice.. Why would anyone believe this?
-Can Ameri- exactly! Like something ain’t adding up on god . Like it’s more too it. And the army is coverin it up . Smh .. what’s done in the dark always come to the light sooner or later
We would have to sign in and out of the armory room when I was in. There’s no way the army don’t know more information. Something with this case isn’t right.
Doesn’t add up tbh, not enough jail time, elaborate murder and no body or even blood? Ya smells like a cover up. Edit: just expressing my opinion, could of actually been that dude and his gf, I’m just speculating
I was signal to 25U. And yea people have a big misconception how how things are layed out. And from reading the Affidavit it sounds like it happened in the bay where most units keep their cages.
@@richie9878 right on. I was 31U attached to an armor unit and then artillery. It's so difficult for me to watch these kind of videos, but my curiosity gets me every time.
So … for two months or so the army had no suspects, then within a week they have 2 suspects and even a confession? How? Was DNA found on Vanessa Guillen‘s body?
FACTS!! I was saying damn they found her body quick as hell after all the news coverage. Then as soon as you heard they found the remains, they had suspects and one kills themselves. For a murder that was months old them cops solved the hell out of this case. Must of been all kinds of evidence to solve it like that. First 48 what? Someone knew something, that is the only way you solve a cold case that quickly. Makes you wonder if they would of took it seriously from the jump. I think a lot of people forget she was killed months ago. Sad, but Army did not care until the media got involved and made it national even though it was fishy from the start.
Tremayne Blair if it was a white guy that killed her I could only imagine the riots and the conspiracies people would spew out. “thE gOveRnMeNt wAs PrOteCtiNg hIm.l
He knocked her out first and put her in a toughox and beat her to death in there. So there would be no screams because she was unconscious and most of the blood was in the box. Witnesses did see him put that box that we now know had her body in his girlfriend's car though.
She said a sargeant was harassing her.. he wasn't even in her chain of command! Makes sense why "someone" randomly called her into work on her day off. They probably made this kid clean up the aftermath and do the dirty work..then blackmailed him..idk this don't make sense
HOW CAN YOU DO SUCH CRUEL, PAINFUL EV1L TO YOUR OWN COMRADE..?? Heartless, heartless to be betrayed by your own brother/sisters in the army. Then they covered up, and she served you.. Lord have mercy
My heartaches for Vanessa Guillen's family. If beating her to death with a hammer wasn't horrible enough, they dismembered her body and set her on fire?? What kind of human being does this to another??!! That is pure evil!! This is so disturbing! Anyone reading this, please pray for the Guillen family (right now). I can't even imagine what they are going through.
If I was her mother I would never b able to close my eyes without seeing my baby was killed like that then the body was treated like that. I wouldn't ever be able to find a place to find peace. All I would see is my baby being killed and dismembered.
Thank YOU SISTER!!!! As a man, I am so HURT this happened to anyone, and for IT to have happened to A MEXICAN QUEEN? BREAKS MY HEART TO PIECES. Is hard to hold my tears....May SHE BE AT PEACE AND NOT FEEL HURT ANYMORE!!!
Army bases are not monitored. There are certain curfews out there and these individuals must have been "working" in those curfews and probably had some time to kill that poor girl. Who knows truthfully, nowadays any story could be straight up lying or covering up some nasty shit.
It’s funny how when a gun or any types of item is gone missing, in the military they will make everyone go search for it until it’s found. She went missing and the military did nothing..so an item is way more important than a person’s life?? Even in the military is corrupted.
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@@dknight4067 Dumb people do dumb shit. I don't know what you expected, criminal masterminds?? This is what this kind of people who would stoop to that level look like. Ta-da!
The sister talk and they said someone inside of the army is giving them information I believe is all false they giving them fake info so they stop the investigation
I wish people like you would actually say what you mean, “oNlY ShEeP WiLl BeLiEvE tHis” without actually telling us what tf to believe or site some sources wtf
I’m stuck guys..Now who’ll help me !!! I just sign up for the army...Now I’m on future soldier list..I’ll go for my training on July..I didn’t know the Army’s dark secret 😢😢😢😢
My theory: Superior officer sexually harassed Vanessa. She was then going to report him. He got this soldier and his girlfriend to kill Vanessa by blackmailing them with something really incriminating. Then superior has him killed makes it look like suicide and the girlfriend goes to prison. Seems convoluted like a movie plot but seriously is it that impossible?
Andrew Wong get outta here, they’re both Israel. I bet you a gentile got mad and murdered her. Justice will reign soon on y’all creatures. Don’t even know what time you’re in.
This story doesn’t make sense, reminds me of when LaVena Johnson was murdered. The military said it was suicide to cover up the truth. I pray Vanessa and LaVena get justice.
The two responsible for her murder are not the only ppl responsible for her death. That base is corrupt and needs to be shutdown. Supervisors need to be held accountable for why happens in their unit and under their command. Who was Robinson's direct supervisor? Why wasnt Guillens report taken seriously when it was first made?
Dead soldiers dead citizens no one's going to be held accountable don't join the military don't become a civil servant stand up fight for change spread the word
This is so sad. I dont know why this isnt getting more publicity in national news. I thought the black lives matter movement was supposed to get justice for everyone🤔
I still dont understand how he managed to remove a grown human dead body from the base, that would mean anyone can just sneak anything in and out of the base without anyone noticing, do they not have any type of security in that base!? Someone needs to get fired this is unacceptable and unbelievable this makes our army look like a joke
It’s messed up. I can’t believe they tortured the life out of her and buried her in multiple places. That poor girl. She didn’t deserve this. Is the sergeant who sexually abused her being interrogated or not? I believe this is a cover up for his mess. He is the main suspect if you ask me.
It's possible that she never screamed at all! If she was showering would it be possible that it all washed down the drain or that they did it quick clean up before they put the body in a trunk? I've been with my son to an army base on a Sunday and it feels quite abandoned in the motor pool....
A ella no se le dio la oportunidad que si se le habia dado a la persona que murio en minesota cuando estaba siendo por la policia a ella si la mataron con mucho odio de acuerdo a las imvestigaciones es muy triste saber que fue descuartizada.
Google global truth project and read 'The Present' for the truth about life/death explained simply. Everyone needs to read it asap b/c it can change the world.
@@meanmr.mustard4268 As soon as that statement said evolution is a fact...you lost me. It isn't a fact. The theory of evolution is false and proven false if you do a little searching. I won't get into an argument over it here...there are those who explain it in much greater detail. Don't wast your time with that site. It's written by someone who doesn't have the whole story that can be found quite easily. Even atheist scientists are now speaking out against Evolution theory. It's put our scientific knowledge behind the times and stunted it's growth.
@@Redmow51 Right. It's funny how it most cases scientist are expected to try to disprove a theory to see what remains afterward but in this case, a lot of them are working backwards. They believe and push it and try to quite objections. It's so obvious.
@@DoctorSpicy So what if the killer is Hispanic? What word then? Or if the killer is white? Or...or...or. Silliness. This murderer is a murderer for reasons other than his race. He's immoral. Didn't think too much of himself. I can think of alot of people like that of all races. We are all in a fallen state. Even those who try to do good fail constantly. Getting stuck on race keeps you behind the curve. Ignorant as to what is really going on in the world. And, therefore, easily driven by the evil in the world.
They didn’t even tell the family, it turns out they found out while watching the news. She also said she had been harassed by a sergeant. This feels like a cover up
That's not true the were talking with the family since the investigation began in April. The family is just emotional (understandably) and wanted their daughter to be found.
She herself was the one who told her family about the harassment but was to scared to file a formal complaint. Also the day she went missing the sergeant said she was there for all the checks, which later he admitted he didn’t see her at the 3pm one. The army isn’t being transparent either, not saying I’m right but it seems to shady.
@@absolutelynot7823 Exactly she never filed a complaint so that means her chain of command was unaware, and a person on CQ not actually checking the barracks is common because people are lazy. For there to be a cover up it would mean the Army, CID, the FBI, and local police are all involved.
WHO CALLED HER TO GO IN ON HER DAY OFF??? Does this kid have the authority to tell her to come in..seriously doubt it! Let's you know someone higher is involved WHO HAS ACCESS TO HER PHONE RECORDS (WHOSE NAME IS THE PHONE BILL UNDER THEY CAN EASILY REQUEST THIS INFO FROM THE PROVIDER)
I believe the killer did not kill Guillen because she was going to report him about his affair. The worst case for Robinson would have been that he would receive a Dishonorable Discharge. My belief is that Robinson was dealing guns and she discovered it. Just my thought.
Person goes missing for two months they barely do the investigation about the person missing... Now they're saying that this person killed her in the military base was able to go home get some sleep come back to the armory room get the dead body out of the base cut her off set on fire without anybody noticing anything? There was no camera showing that it was going on? What a joke
@h2 8 ok that's kinda what I mean like they should of had cameras at the gate where they leave and enter... Like isn't it Weird they barely brought it up like couple months after she was missing? Or was they hiding something.. because as of now there is 9 people missing in that military base..
So, was she the first girl he ever made a move on? If so, was this his first rejection or has he killed every single rejection? I mean anything is possible but I doubt this theory of yours.
Daniel Garcia you do know people have killed for getting rejected right? Someone at the community college i went to Northlake in Irving killed for getting rejected. Im sure they been rejected more than once but maybe that one time was the last straw. So like you said yourself “anything is possible” and this theory is possible.
When so much wickedness is released into the general population, without belief in God, for so many, this is the the kind of results that happen, more and more. We as a Nation need to repent and recieve new life, love and purity from God, in Jesus Holy Name. Bad things have always happened, but they have greatly escalated in rates of occurence, since so many people have turned their backs on God.
@@kathleennorton6108 and its only going to get worse and there is nothing we can do about it ;) sleep well hoping you don't wake up in a world where the anti-christ is in power
@@falseprofit2569 The gates of hell cannot prevail against the Church of God. This is the truth. Rise up Church and storm them, in Jesus Holy and Glorious Name. Jesus is coming back for a glorious Church without spot or wrinkle. Hallelujah!!!
@@flowingdown5270 I'm mean there was probably so much evidence. And they were able to pinpoint where the body was. That means someone snitched. So they found the body and got who did it. What else do you want?
@@richie9878 That's what you'd assume. Doesn't have to be and likely isn't the full truth at all. Even if it is, she's been gone for months and it was radio silence on their part the whole time. There was definitely some kind of evasion of transparency and truth somewhere along the line. This isn't the first case of it's kind, especially of women and it's surprising that we're getting any story at all. That alone is enough ground that shady shit is going on systematically. It's only in their favour so why WOULD they be honest about this shit?
Yesenia STFU! You’re a moron. You have a black lives matter as your logo but you say she deserved it? George and whoever is killed unjustified deserve justice! Please delete your comment because you deserve karma
I hope people do protesting and more for Vanessa, an investigation that goes more depth. For not only Vannesa but for all other woman/man who have died unexpectedly. Its something very serious and shouldn't be taken lightly. All this sounds ridiculous their is definitely more to the story and the people involved they need to pay for what happened to her.
My husband is in the army and we were almost stationed at that base now everyday he goes to work I worry a lot we have a 7 month old baby and I can’t imagine him not coming back one day 😭💔