Disused Stations of the Chicago Great Western - The Bellwood Mystery - Part 4

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In Part 4 of our Chicago Great Western series, we return to the Chicago to St Charles line and reconsider the placement and location of the Bellwood Station, in Bellwood, Illinois. As we strive for accuracy in our videos, we paid attention when one of our viewers, Jerry Hund, railway researcher and former resident of Bellwood, provided evidence to suggest alternative locations of the Bellwood station, challenging our location of the station nearby the Indiana Harbor Belt interchange. And so we examined Mr Hund's evidence, along with new and additional evidence that we unconvered in our own investigations. The result is a richer and more complete story of a rather mysterious station, which seems to have moved at least a few times in its lifetime.
We also address a few other relatively minor errors in the first three videos of the Chicago Great Western video series.
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IMAGE CREDITS (NPR = www.newspapers.com, FB = www.facebook, FL = www.flickr.com)
- Jerry Hund
- Chicago Tribune, NPR
- The InterOcean, NPR
- Historical US Geological Survey Maps, livingatlas.arcgis.com
- The Forest Preserves of Cook County, 1918, archive.org
- Sioux City Journal, NPR
- Star Progress, Bellwood Public Library, bellwood.advantage-preservation.com
- University of Chicago Digital Map Collection, www.lib.uchicago.edu
- US Library of Congress, www.loc.gov
- The Daily Chronicle, NPR
- University of Texas, texashistory.unt.edu
- S L Kramer, iagenweb.org
- Jon Habegger Collection, wx4.org
- Official Guide to the Railways and Steam Navigation of the United States, Porto Rico, Canada, Mexico, and Cuba, 1890-1930, www.google.com/books
- Google Maps, www.google.com/maps
- 1939 Illinois Aerial Photos, clearinghouse.isgs.illinois.edu
- Berne Ketchum
- Jim Rueber
- The Maize, A Magazine Dedicated to the Interests of the Employes and Patrons of the Chicago Great Western Railroad - Corn Belt Route
- Shoreline Collection
- The Trolley Dodger, www.thetrolleydodger.com
- Mark Llanuza
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- Opening / Closing theme
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MODEL CREDITS
- Great Western Station - Elizabeth Illinois Depot by TonyB
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
- Many thanks to fellow railway researchers and viewers for information and images regarding CGW stations, on Facebook, Flickr, and other social media venues
- Many thanks to Jerry Hund for keeping us honest!
- Great thanks to the people that created and maintain the Great Western Trail, both the eastern and western sections!
TABLE OF CONTENTS
00:00:00 Titles and Opening
00:00:23 Introduction
00:02:56 Bellwood Origins
00:03:42 First Bellwood CGW Station
00:05:39 CGW Station at Eastern Avenue
00:06:35 1911 Map
00:07:09 West Bellwood Station
00:07:53 Timetables
00:09:41 A Tale of 3 Stations
00:11:03 Indiana Harbor Belt Location
00:14:07 Distance from Chicago to St Charles
00:14:33 Great Western Trail to Sycamore
00:15:08 Closing
00:15:34 End Titles
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Комментарии : 30

@anthonyc1883 2 года назад

High admiration for the research, presentation and subject matter in general. Good that others out there contribute their knowledge to the effort, too. Great community, we railfans and historians from casual to serious!

@BeHistoric 2 года назад

Thank you for watching and the kind words! Indeed, it is actually very helpful when the railfan community, or viewers in general, contribute their knowledge and experience, even when it doesn't necessarily align with what we've found. Some of these locations are quite complex, as we've found - and it takes some real detective work from many people to get it right.

@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 2 года назад

Another thing worth factoring in is that a lot of old maps will often keep things that are long gone, as many old maps from the 1940s will show interurban lines that stopped existing in the early 1930s.

@madmattdigs9518 Месяц назад

I love this channel. I grew up in Bellwood and spent a lot of time at the current location of the Bellwood station under Mannheim Road. One of my best friends lived just a stone’s throw away from there. Then when I got older my family moved out west near the Winfield mounds location near Geneva road and Winfield road. I was excited to learn about the site and others nearby. Although it’s sad that so many existed but were not preserved. I love learning about the local history! This is great, I will subscribe and watch all the videos whenever I can.

@BeHistoric Месяц назад

So glad that you are enjoying this series and our channel! Thanks for commenting and the kind words - and for watching our videos! Very interesting that different series are touching on different aspects of your life. We often run into these very different historic/prehistoric threads that somehow overlap over time. Thanks again!

@SRJOY1 Год назад

Thx for creating this, thoroughly enjoyed. Please do more ! encore !

@BeHistoric Год назад

Thanks for watching and commenting! More are in the pipeline. They just take awhile to research, film, and produce. Plus we have a few other series we are simultaneously exploring as well. Thanks again and stay tuned!

@RiisPark99 Год назад

Thanks for all the time you’ve spent on these projects

@BeHistoric Год назад

Thanks for watching and for supporting the channel!

@GOMF-eq4qc 2 года назад

Great detective work and thanks for clarifying.

@BeHistoric 2 года назад

Thank you for watching and the continuing support!

@al007italia 2 года назад

Thnks for the update. Hopefully new evidence for Bellwood will show up. If it exists, whoever has it probably does realize it as it is packed away somewhere with family memorabilia.

@BeHistoric 2 года назад

Thank you for watching! Yes, it is likely that more evidence on this location is to be found out there - hoping that this video helps to stir the pot.

@brianberthold3118 Год назад

been watching the vids .. great stuff .. i would think it would be at Bellwood since also at Bellwood was a Chicago Aurora & Elgin alone with the Chicago Westchester & Western

@BeHistoric Год назад

Yes, we know it was there for awhile at least, but then things get murky after that. Different sources point to different locations unfortunately. Thanks for watching and commenting!

@jamalwilliams7194 2 года назад

Nice video love it I use to stay on 23rd and Van Buren and Bellwood and my backyard was a piece of in old train track wonder if you can find out a little about that

@BeHistoric 2 года назад

Thank you for watching and the kind words! In our research, we'll see if we can learn anything more regarding that train track - perhaps part of an old siding.

@user-de1hg8cf6b 7 месяцев назад

OMG you were in my old stomping grounds one of those two two story houses was were my best friend lived. And that path going under the bridge part of the interchange between the Iindiana Harbor Belt and crossed Manheim Road went by the stone quarry acrosses the Eisenhower Expressway and i think it interchanged with the Illinois Central Railroad. I remember one time we saw a circus train parked on those tracks. I never realized a station was there. Is that stretch of bike path patrolled or safe to ride on.? Just wondering. Thanks for the walk down memory lane. Have a blessed Christmas everyone.

@BeHistoric 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching and sharing your rememberance of this location! Very much appreciated. The exact function of the building is still something of a mystery, beyond the fact that it was a switching tower. Whether it played the role of a station is still questionable. There are many incongruities in the facts about the Bellwood story - from the downtown area to the IHB. Perhaps more evidence will surface to clarify in the future. Regarding the IPP trail, we've ridden and walked through here on several occasions and have never had any problems or felt unsafe. Thanks again for watching!

@user-vh2pk6bd3g Месяц назад

It was a switching station called Red House which burned in the early 1970s, this was along the IHB line just west of 25th ave and Madison street

@BeHistoric Месяц назад

That too is very interesting. So the red brick tower was referred to as the "red house"? Thanks for the comment and observation!

@fleadoggreen9062 Год назад

50th and kedzie 60632 in Chicago had a huge roundhouse I think it had a turn table in the middle it was abandoned I think I was just 12 years old and played there a few times , any info on that , they ended up with the orange line train there, you guys have any info on the roundhouse? Or is my memory off, love ur show thanks

@BeHistoric Год назад

Thanks for watching and commenting! At present, we don't have any information on that roundhouse. Perhaps a viewer may have some info on it. Also possible that we'll run onto further information, as we continue to explore area railways. Thanks again!

@user-vh2pk6bd3g Месяц назад

I can tell you where there was a station which is now a private home ,it was along the IHB line at 29th and Korrell street

@BeHistoric Месяц назад

That's very interesting! This was a station on the IHB line? We will have to check that out in the coming weeks/months! Thanks for the comment and observation!

@zigman3105 Год назад

That station separates the Hispanic neighborhood from the black neighborhood in Bellwood.

@BeHistoric Год назад

That's interesting. Presumably you are referring to the massive IHB interchange structure to the west of 25th? It is massive, but curiously it helped to open up traffic, as earlier all of the roads and railways were at grade level - and train traffic would snarl things up both east-west and north-south. It's interesting and unfortunate that it ultimately created a major barrier between neighborhoods.

@Jacksirrom 2 года назад

please stream the library lecture, i'm stuck at work!

@BeHistoric 2 года назад

We're sorry you missed the library talk last night. Unfortunately, it was not up to us whether the talk was streamed or not. The talk was recorded and the video will be posted on the Wheaton Public Library's RU-vid channel and the City of Wheaton Community Page. Once the videos are online, we will post links to them on our community page. Again, we are sorry you missed the talk last night.

@Jacksirrom 2 года назад

@@BeHistoric cool, thanks, keep it up, love it