Join GeekWire's science editor Alan Boyle as he journeys 100 meters to the bottom of Puget Sound aboard OceanGate's Cyclops 1 submarine. Catch a glimpse of the abundant sea life at these rarely seen depths.
@@posticusmaximus1739 Scuba diving is a relatively new activity, and the equipment and techniques were not as sophisticated as they are today. the number of scuba diving deaths in the early days of the sport was relatively high. As the sport became more popular and safety standards improved, the number of deaths has decreased significantly.
Exactly this was great for going certain depths especially deeper than divers, find marine life ect take scientist and other people would of been great, titanic is way too fast, too many cut corners.
"If we're sucking in water in here, we're in a bad state.." That is such an eerie statement, and also when they are talking about the amount of pressure the vessel is subjected to at those depths. Terrifying.
From looking at his patent, it seems like the strain gauges he embedded in the various locations of the hull were meant to give real time warning of any dangerous hull deformation. The engineer he fired felt that the gauges would not give a warning in time to return to the surface. When the evidence is in, it’s likely that was an accurate assessment. Experts in the field felt that carbon fiber was just the wrong material to use for compression resistance. And they didn’t want his failure to destroy the safety record they worked so hard to earn. I think Rush felt his combination of carbon fiber plus strain gauges was an innovation that the existing community wouldn’t accept, so he needed to prove his theory. To keep the business solvent he needed the tourist money. It was a deadly combination. I think the Greek notion of Tragedy includes a hero with a tragic flaw, often hubris, that brings unintentional consequences to an entire community. By that definition, Stockton Rush and his story certainly qualify.
@@kinghades3356 People aren't supposed to pursue innovation by putting other people's lives at great risk, especially people that weren't aware of how big the risks actually were. It's one thing if he was putting just his own life at risk, but him taking passengers on such an unsafe/experimental sub is pretty much murder, or the very least, "manslaughter".
@@dopecat4012 if that were the case we would've never gotten this far. It's your kind that gets left behind the dust doing menial jobs for the rest of your life. You'll be forgotten and will cease to exist in anyone's memories.
The Cyclops is still intact and has always worked well. it is made of steel with two transparent domes, one very large. It can dive up to a maximum of 500 meters and is certified.
They tried, but you can not certifie carbon fiber, there was no procedure to o that, it would be to costly. But they took cyclops 2 version/hull 2 in a pressure chamber and it did well. Little cracks in carbon fiber over time, and it gets very dangerous. Acoustic sensors do not warn early enough, it's already to late at this point.
@@MrGunzoller Except in case of a Challenger it was one minor flaw that is easy to overlook, where is with Titan the whole concept was very stupid, and there was a lot of red flags along the way (and a lot of people did say so at the time). Their hull was so damaged from the test dive that they had to replace it. And it was a test dive, with ideal conditions. Yet, after that he said "Looks good, let's go". At the very least you should go back to the drawing board and do more test, or abandon the concept entirely.
I was thinking the same, probably alot safer as it was rated for that kind of depth but Stockton pushed it way too far and.. Well we know what happened.
The Cyclops 1 is a very quiet, maneuverable, and spacious vehicle. It seems an excellent shallow water submersible. Perhaps this man could one day make a deep water submersible after studying how to make deep water submersibles.
@@seeharvester Wise people will spin the wheel when there is a more than even chance of them winning and walking away with a cash-prize or soft toy. But for every ONE who wins a large cash prize there will be thousands who come away with their pockets empty. This guy gambled with his life and due to his own lack of perception he ended up owing the house and the house was quick to collect. He also shared that debt with four others who paid approximately £200,000 each for the privilage of being turned into pate.
@@RichBuddy at that time the wright brothers did every safety protocol that was available , and honestly safety field lacked those days pretty much non existent , but today with advancement in safety procedures such as sonar, comms, and structural safety such as making the submersible sphere, making the hull out of titanium, the titan was not implementing those, this was NOT an invention , James Cameron has a sub that dived 36000ft below while following all the safety protocols made for marine world.
Rush was a daredevil and he proved how far he could push the depth limits and number times using the carbon fiber hull. Unfortunately he killed 4 other people in doing so. Engineers warned him of the mistakes that cost him his life
@vibratingstring Engineers knew how to make rockets & space shuttle until Elon Musk came along, It takes a true pioneer to completely overhaul and change how things are done, Unfortunately in this case safety wasn’t a big priority and did not do the proper testing.
Stockton has got hammered so hard in the press and rightly so, but here in this video I cant help seeing him as just a human and sad that he lost his life, sad his wife is a widow and the 4 other people who died husbands, fathers and sons of someone. Stockton was a chancer, he took all the criticism as validation he was doing something new ,instead of doing something WRONG. If he was right the ability to make light weight low cost deep submersibles good have been a game changer in exploring the depths. Instead he had probably sent back deep sea exploring decades.
Devil’s advocate- maybe there was some backup interface besides the Xbox controller. I keep imagining they must have had a terminal of some sort. If it really was the only possible interface, that’s truly insane
@@sisofphil fact that there is no comunication between ship and sub except signals every 15 minutes is insane and almost darwinist...Not to mention some type of byonant locator that go to surface in case of SOS
He reportedly fired the "old white guy" engineers in favor of recent graduates because the youngsters are inspiring. Those old white guys possess decades of knowledge beyond a 4 yr degree, especially in risk assessment.
By all accounts Cyclops 1 has functioned as intended despite stupid design choices like the controller. Seems like if Oceangate stuck to 500m or less (and stayed with the steel hull design) they would've been fine. The Titan had no business diving 4000m. Stockton was a victim of his own ego.
as funny as it is to use a video game controller in theory the fact is you need something to control it. Rush did prove to be incompetent but lets not discredit Sony or Microsoft. The military uses their controls so what better controller to use than something that is tried and true. Just dont throw it at the wall when you are "losing". Their controllers are very reliable. Like people want to bring up what if it loses connection. When is the last time you played Xbox or PS5 and your controller lost connection lol
@umbreonpokemon8190 game controls are used by the military to operate ROVs, not manned submersibles. It being wireless is just dumb because it's an unnecessary risk for nothing other than aesthetics. And again if these were the kind of choices they wanted to make they should've stuck to more shallow depths where they had more room for error.
@@umbreonpokemon8190military doesn’t use controllers for manned vessels, imagine you are steering the vessel and connections drops or lags before you can brake in time and you collide, this risk should be 0%. wireless has no role in critical applications
People keep going on about this game controller, but if I was given a choice between a custom made controller and a game-controller I would choose the game controller every time. Why? The game controller would have had MILLIONS of hours of validation and bug fixes. You make your own custom one and you would most likely have 0.0001% of the testing and validation and verification of a game controller and would most likely have bugs in it. That was actually a smart and innovate choice and in engineering we have been doing things like this for years, choosing validation and reliability life over custom design. The fatal problem is he did not use the same mentality for the hull, which had almost NO validation or reliability data, the MOST important part.....
@@sixbells99 Yes, let someone else do the R&D but the problem is they weren't doing the R&D for this application. They were doing it for cheeto eating children. The R&D is there... at least some of it... but it's not "done" for this application in any way.
This is crazy everything seems so safe here and Stockton looked confident in his creation, they should've continued using the Dualshock 3 Controller and not that cheap Logitech third-party Joypad.
I feel like the problem is not that logitech products are bad and more about the fact that the submarine was crap and wasn't even designed to handle the pressure. I have a logitech G920 wheel for sim racing and it's pretty much the highest rated industry standard for gaming wheels.
Maybe it was safe In 300 feets not 12000 feets. The pressure and weight of water that deep is thousands times more. Maybe touristic trips to some lakes would have been acceptable with this same as cayak material sub.
The fucking PS 3 controller , this Is maybe yesterday was Lucky and Continue next step but now your playing Is not good so take the GAME OVER for your Playstation Controller
in ocean and space exploration you can't and you don't do this. nobody asked challenger being tested 1000 times before it blew up, and i bet if you were offred a trip to space for 250K you'd be tempted, even if it's been tested only a dozen of times.
OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush once said the glue holding the ill-fated Titan submersible's carbon-fiber hull together was "like peanut butter," calling it thicker than Elmer's glue and "pretty simple." In a 2018 video on OceanGate's RU-vid channel, Rush oversaw the bonding of the Titanic-bound sub's titanium ring and carbon-fiber hull. He said the glue affixing the titanium ring to the hull was "very thick, so it's not like Elmer's glue." He added: "It's like peanut butter." Earlier in the video, Rush said the design was "pretty simple, but if we mess it up, there's not a lot of room for recovery." - Chris Panella (Insider)
Creeped me out that they were using a ps3 Bluetooth controller and not something wired when I saw this a while back. Spare controller and wires on board as well? Hope they get found alive.
Dude tought he could MacGyver his way into deep ocean and convinced billionaires to go with him. Now they're crushed into red mist, maybe some bone splinters. At least it was a quick death. RIP.
Mr Rush doesn’t sound like an idiot in this video. I feel he is very good or outstanding in the area of ocean life exploring. He is not good at extreme depth submersible obviously and the tragedy is that he didn’t believe that is out of his depth. We all need to know our depth and boundary. Otherwise we would be reduced from hero to zero.
A lot of idiots don’t sound it. People often conflate how someone is saying with what that person is saying. If someone “sounds” intelligent he is assumed to be intelligent and vice versa. Nothing could be further from the truth. Stockton was arrogant, stubborn and ignorant and he paid the price for it.
Or maybe, just maybe he was an incompetent person who was confidently wrong about many things... and was a good salesman. I'll tell you something else, his company's name sounds similar to WaterGate, and his submersible was named after a disaster caused by hubris. But he sure was likable!
I strongly believe he wasn't an idiot, he knew what he was doing, but yeah, it takes one mistake or negligence for the world to transform you as an extremely evil person on the planet, especially the media. Since the accident happened, suddenly everyone became an engineer online criticizing everything based on what the media want them to hear.
@@albatrossflyer gluing titanium to carbon fiber then going down 3800 meters is what I would call smart. Using glass that rated for 4000 ft but repeatedly took it to 3 times what it's rated isn't what I call smart. I could go on n on.
R.I.P OceanGate Titan / Cyclops. Hope they would have got certification for this one of a kind off the shelf assembly if fibreglass submersible that eventually took 5 lives echoing the fate of Titanic. It’s an another milestone for deep ocean exploration.
This is a different sub altogether. As for Titan, He would never be able to get certification for that craft because carbon fiber composite is not acceptable for those depths. Another barrier to certification was the cylindrical pressure chamber.. the industry standard is spherical. Even the large oblong submersible James cameron designed for the Marianna trench only had a small spherical compartment where the human being would be, the rest of the vehicle is not as important as the chamber. We're people would be
I know he did not just say this gives people from all walks of life the opportunity to experience it... At $200,000 a seat? I'm pretty sure most walks aren't going there.😂
Oceangate seems too confident in their little pillbox, game controller combination! And the CEO is misleading. This is not a submarine, but a submersible. And it seems difficult to drive. Handing the controls to a guest seems to be a dangerous thing this company does. RIP to the CEO and his passengers. There should be absolutely NO TOURISM at the Titanic gravesite, ever.
Ok "Amy," are you gonna be ok? Glad to know there are still MEN out there with giant balls to risk everything for exploration. But what would you know about that? Keep to your kitchen and let men do the stuff that matters.
And those MEN with giant balls are now dead floating somewhere in the ocean while Amy is alive in her kitchen. Score: Kitchen 1 and dead MEN with giant balls 0
@@AVERYhornyMrDinosaurthe news is nothing if not a bunch of lair scum, but at the end of the day the photos of this sub and the titan are not fakable by the media. It is what it is.
@@SsgtHolland he wouldnt go down himself if he only cared about the money. im not saying that his ego didnt kill them, thats literally the reason they died but still. Every inovation through out history was made because of the individuals like him.
@@SsgtHolland He and OceanGate were LOSING money, don't believe the nonsense other people post on yt. it was passion and lack of funding, not greed that contributed to the loss of the Titan and all on board.
@@methylene5 No, he was building a business. To make money. Every startup loses money. But most startups don't put paying customers in their untested prototype. That is not passion. It is hubris and greed.
@@SsgtHolland "Hubris and greed", oh where oh where have I heard that before. Do you have any original thoughts of your own, or are you just going to plagiarise the current trendy internet group think?
No one gives af bout him, I tbh feel bad for those other two passengers who was 19 year old Suleman Dawood and his 48 year old father Shahzada Dawood 🫥💀
This is a different sub than the one that imploded people! The one that imploded was called Titan, this one is Cyclops 1. They purchased Cyclops 1 from another company.
The most horrifying part about the sub, is that it’s not rated to withstand the pressure at 3800 meters down, yet they did it anyway… it was literally bound to go wrong.
It was great that he had such a vision but man at what cost ? I saw that video of an actual tour to the titanic. The images were so good and clear. Could’ve been a real great thing but ..
He towed the Titan on that platform for 400 miles of open ocean and those rich people still got it in. The toupee - all mixed-up with the shredded carbon fibre hull. Maybe it's not lost for ever.
most of the rich already went on the Mir submersibles, or on Limiting Factor or were able to buy their own craft from Triton Submarines. most of the ones who either didn't do their homework or didn't have the 15-30 mill bailed when they saw the Titan
We have stain gauges on aircraft, they still required me to NDI them, but pilots being so so smart alway knew better. Anyone thats inspected carbon fiber could have told him this was going to happen. The kid driving the sub sounds great until something goes wrong
“We’re gonna lower the platform about 20 feet, go do the dive, then in about 3 years we’re gonna go down to the Titanic and crush ourselves in instant death it’ll be a good time”
Anybody whining about the gaming controller. That's the one thing that's well tested by millions of people. It has been improved for generations of consoles.
I think I'm going to make a frame out of two by fours and wrap it with those painters plastic sheets. Can't figure out how to make the door tho. Start out by exploring under docks at the lake.
@@agradina At 1000 m seawater you're looking at 100 bar, 100 MPa, 98.7 atm, 1450 psi, or 75006 mmHg. All are relative to the surface, but the submersible probably has >=1 atm on the interior during the dive.
if he didnt take four innocent souls with him, he would have been remembered as an eccentric man trying to create new technology, which is admirable. but he is now forever deemed negligent, and almost a cause of manslaughter
