hearing people refer to hank green as "from tiktok," like he wasnt the main face of crash course for like 12 fucking years, and also an author himself , is crazy
Spoilers?? - - In the middle of watching this I was hit with the horrifying memory of me being 13, reading TFIOS, being called down to dinner and my mom saying “what’s wrong?”. I barely choked out “the cancer came back” and then threw up on my mashed potatoes from crying too violently.
one time hank green replied to one of my tweets and told me to stop responding to trolls on twitter for my own sake and i never responded to a troll on twitter again. thank u hank green, john greens brother
I love how the whole point about John Green books is how he's able to see teenagers as complex people instead of just grown up children, anyone who was into the rookie/tavi gevinson bubble knows that teenagers do talk like that if they are given the right space for it
As someone who works w teens, I definitely agree but think it’s more of a “giving the right space” for a particular type of teenager in a particular era haha
I have so much respect for John Green, especially bc so much of his life rn is centred around raising money for charity and advocating against tuberculosis
*advocating against multinational pharmaceutical corporations contributing to thousands of preventable deaths from turbeculosis because they'd rather not sell their product at all to developing nations rather than selling it a more affordable, but ultimately still profitable, price. There, FTFY.
I honestly think peopl forget how crucial John Green was for the formation of the internet in general like not just how he was such a pillar and creator of Tumblr culture, but one of the firsts to use the internet to democratize (?) education with Crash Course, AND co-founding VIDCON! this man pioneered tumblr and RU-vid and even if the platforms have changed a lot since then, people forget this man was quietly in the forefront of the formation of these platforms into what they were during their biggest most formative years.. idc like give him and hank a medal or smth
DFTBA was and still is a cornerstone of collective creator support and really feels like it’s carrying the torch for a bygone era of wholesome internet passion projects and fan-creator engagement.
Little known fact: the Green brothers were also sort of tangentially involved in the creation of Patreon! Take all of this with a grain of salt because this is from my own memory, but iirc a bit before Patreon was a thing they started a conversation about how online monetization was a broken and talking about how a subscription service would be a great solution. They ended up creating a site called Subbable around the same time Patreon was created (afaik this was mostly an instance of “two people had the same good idea at the same time”) and eventually Subbable got folded into Patreon? So like, they kind of created a small part of Patreon and contributed to the early popularization of the idea. Again take this with a grain of salt, but that’s how I remember it going down.
yes and not only that but crash course is like. an education tool actual schools and universities use which is incredible considering i have access to them for free instead of paying for expensive textbooks. they’ve been a invaluable tool for me during my education and it’s widely available for anyone to use which is SO cool
the fact that tfios was the only book everyone in my non-english speaking, very religious school read in 2014 says everything about the chokehold john green had on our culture globally
a family member got diagnosed with the same cancer as hazel grace as a teen (she's ok) right after the TFIOS movie came out and so she has a LIFELONG, intense resentment against Shailene Woodley specifically lmao
I also have a lifelong resentment against Shailene Woodley, but it's because I got a pixie cut in middle school and everyone said I was trying to be her lol.
But Hazel's cancer its a fake vertion of it, Jonh say it, the water in her lungs its was a methaphor. Yeah Ik lung cancer exist, but the one in the book/movie has a totally diferent funtion to actual cancer.
Being a tfios-reading, arctic monkeys-listening, american apparel-wearing, tumblr-addicted, depressed, hyperintelligent teenage girl in the 2010s was peak culture and I beg for it to come back.
imagine being 13 year-old me growing up outside the US with limited Internet access: avid reader, starting puberty, inevitably falling in love with John Green as an author. suddenly I move to the States and attend high school where this man’s videos are used in ACTUAL class, and the Tumblr refugees I’m friends with expose me to the C*CKS*CKING MONOLOGUE HUUUHHH
in college a boy I was in a situationship with referred to me as a John Green female character and also told me that I was 'so much like' the girl from Turtles All the Way Down... like bro just called me mentally ill in five languages
7:51 John Green called my pretentious teenage self OUT. Being pretentious is ABSOLUTELY a part of being a teenager. I saw people complaining about the big vocabulary words and the literary references being unrealistic and I was like, cool, so your childhood and mine were different, this isn't aimed at you lol. Using big words you aren't always 100% sure are the right ones is SUCH a real thing. (I still love fun vocabulary, I just try to be less annoying about it now lmfao).
This portrayal of teenagers wasn’t new. Dawson’s Creek was criticized for teenagers being unrealistically portrayed with pretentious language and dialogue.
He literally defined "nerd" as "someone who has unitonic enthusiasm for something" and he and Hank are swathed entirely in nerdiness and I am just so deeply exhausted by people lashing out against earnest sincerity. There's so little of it anywhere I guess they assume it's fake...
The only lore that was missing was the woman who found out her wife was faking cancer because she watched and read TFIOS and realized all the things her wife said about her cancer were just stuff from the book and the wife had based her lie on the plot of TFIOS
Yeah as a 31 year old the fact that Hank is somehow "Hank Green the Science Guy from Tiktok" is so weird 😂😅 I also love people randomly being shocked that there are in fact 2 separate Green Brothers.
It used to be "Who the f is Hank?" but now he's probably seen by more younger-younger people than John bc his tiktok is so popular Heard someone describe him as the internet's Tiktok uncle😂
We didn't know how good we had it lol. I miss logging onto to tumblr and curating a chronological timeline of things I'm actually interested in. Not just scrolling away
Carly, I don’t think you understand, The Anthropocene Reviewed is one of my favourite books of all time. You have to read it. Such a quintessentially pandemic book, yet so good
The podcast that came before the book is also so good. Some repeat essays, some that didn’t make it into the book. The essay on Googling is part of the podcast and I remember standing in my kitchen washing dishes and sobbing while listening, which completely freaked my roommates out.
as someone deep in the vlogbrothers iceberg fishingboatproceeds is a reference to a vlogbrothers video where john talks about how on the irs tax form he's using there's a line item for fishing boat proceeds, and his life goal is to eventually have fishing boat proceeds. anyway now that ive outed myself as an absolute idiot, this video had perfect timing to me as literally last night i saw john post on tumblr. he still is putting out bangers on the website he was once doxxed off of
I was in the comments making sure someone else explained the origin of fishingboatproceeds! I have an encyclopedic memory about very few topics, but the largest is certainly Hank and John lore 😂
This era was also during my superwholock era AND my very first gf era AND our collective DIVERGENT AND FURRY/MLP ERA… this was truly a DARK year for me but I NEVER felt more alive… thank u Carley
@@turkicnomad5632 I BARELY escaped those my friend… but like I said JUST barely.. bc my second gf ever was a homestuck cosplayer the year before I met her..
@@GoodnessKnowsProductions aww thank you for your concerns but im fine actually, im lucky to have my family and a house over my head and have the option to quit my job when most people in the war zones do not have what I have 😢
I hand painted “Okay? Okay.” With the clouds and everything on my wall. Even took the book to Home Depot to color match the blue for the background. This video took me back 😅
As someone who was a BIG john green girl during the hayday and an avid tumblr user, who is now unfortunately an adult: the anthropocene reviewed is one of my favorite non fiction books i have ever read. so beautiful and insightful. john green u will always be famous
i love anthropocene review! I listened to the podcast episodes too on my commute rides home and there were ones where I was just crying on the bus bc of how beautiful and heartfelt it was 😭
i love turtles all the way down (his newest book) SO much and i genuinely feel so bad for how horribly he was treated on tumblr. i heard him say a few weeks ago that people STILL send him the monologue *dozens of times a week* it sounds like a living hell
I will never get over the insanity of Shailene Woodley and Cancel Elgort playing opposite each other as siblings AND lovers in 2 different blockbusters THE SAME YEAR. I honestly don't know if it was a big thing or if it was only really among the Tumblr girlies in my grade, but there was this one girl in my class who just casually brought up the incest in TFIOS as Divergent came out 3 months before TFIOS, and she couldn't unsee them being siblings when they were suddenly played romantic leads instead; and I'm not gonna lie, I don't think that ever really left my brain.
As much as 2014 John Green was an ERA, I am so grateful for modern John Green. His work for tuberculosis research and advocacy has been amazing, and his latest non-fiction work "The anthropocene, Reviewed", is my favourite book ever. The work is so thoughtful and delicate, and it means the world to me. If you liked the mental health storylines in his books you read when you were younger, reading TAR gives brilliant (yet devastating) context as to the impact that those mental illnesses have had on his personal life. Anyways TLDR; John Green is my favourite creative, and I HIGHLY recommend everyone reads the anthropocene reviewed!!!!!!
Looking For Alaska and Paper Towns will always hold a very special place in my heart. The things that those books did to my mentally ill teenage brain need to be studied. I still listen to them sometimes.
Paper Towns supremacy! John proposed to me for my husband on the vlogbrothers channel a hundred years ago and I can't believe how much history and lore came before and since.
My now husband and I went to see tfios in theaters together for our 3rd date, and I remember afterwards we had this thing where “Casually is our Always” and we’d just say Casually to each other all the time omfg we were the worst 😂 what a time
As a chronically online girlie myself, did i know all of the lore YES, but did i watch the whole one hour video ALSO YES Thank you for your service bestie!!!
In 2018 to 2020ish, i worked in a restaurant that John Green frequented fairly often. He was super quiet and unassuming. Never would've known who he was if he hadn't been pointed out to me
The green brothers and nerdfighteria is such a wonderful part of the internet. Really good video, I wasn't really around on tumblr at the time but I was moving in circles with people that were very active. Rediscovering them in the last couple of years has been some of the best things that I have done.
I met John Green in person when he ordered a coffee at the cafe I work at! He was so cool and sweet and took a selfie with me. He even offered to hold my phone for it because I was so nervous my hands were shaking 😂
Haven’t watched the video yet but it’s great that you’re helping raise money for Palestinians. A lot of creators try to avoid that kind of stuff because they want to avoid controversy and please everyone so it’s nice to see people with real convictions.
I remember going through the whole "screaming, crying, throwing up" experience for the very first time. John Green might have actually created one of the rites of passage for the "academic weapon - to mentally unstable" girlies out there
I made my dad take me to see TFIOS in theatres and he was still crying in the car on the way home after but he was PISSED about it and talking about how much he hates John green for like the entire ride, then later I heard him on the phone talking to his friend about it he was not pleased
Looking for alaska was a gnarly experience for me as a teenage boy. This character was developing a connection w a girl for the first time in his life just like I was, but she was very suddenly taken away halfway through the story. I don’t remember if it was suicide or an accident, but the coming of age story is suddenly cut short when she dies and the rest of the book is our protagonist marinating in the loss, unsure how to move forward. John Green must’ve really liked Bridge to Terabithia. I’m almost 30 and still haven’t had to confront something that tragic, I can’t imagine if it was my high school girlfriend when we were 18.
i remember being 16, my mom had just read my journal and i felt like my mind had been violated and the only safe place to vent my trauma was on the last page of my tfios book.
the moment you mentioned zoella on vidcon I SCREAMED because i knew exactly what was coming and somehow that made me feel connected to you on a spiritual level idk those were the good days man
as a millennial who was into the nerdfighter scene before like... shit really blew up with tfios i was nodding along so much esp with the point about internet culture shifting far far away from earnestness. like john green ain't perfect but he always strived to learn from mistakes, see other people as complex and full human beings, and encouraged his young audience to do the same, which was a really really important thing to hear when you were young and had access to the unfiltered internet. he's just a kind of dweeby guy doing his best to move through the world being the best person he can be, and it feels like nobody is allowed to just be that anymore.
I read 'the fault in our stars' like... 3 or 4 times? And the first time i read it in a day and finished it at like 2am... my mom came into my room to look why I was still awake and saw me CRYING my eyes out😂 she was so scared that something happened this was the start of my John Green Books Binge ❤
A two day migraine 😭 girl I feel you. I also remember dragging my mom to a special Simulcast of the TFiOS movie that had a live John & cast interview after.
John Green was so important to my adolescence and his books are so genuinely good!! I very unironically think that Looking for Alaska is a classic of our generation and should be read in high school English classes
I was feeling old for a moment because you read these as a pre-teen and I read them as a teen. Then I remembered that we used to have a delay in the third world. You're not allowed to make me feel old.
The fact that John Green was popping in my RU-vid shorts feed all the time and I only recently discovered it was him! I loved fault in our stars, hated looking for Alaska 😅
without fail, every time the video gets to the part you included in the intro, i go absolutely insane. it's like when they say the name of the movie in the movie
Put with on when me and my dad were having breakfast cause I knew he really like John green and was on tumblr at this time and he excitedly told me about his books. He told me about the first time he read ‘the fault in our stars’ he was on a road trip and how he was *sobbing* in the car and his friend had to ask him if he was ok 😭. “She is trying to connect you with me on literature scene. :)” was what my dad said. And it was a wonderful time bonding with my dad so thank you for this Carly. You’re amazing and this video was awesome. ❤
LMAOOO Trust me, Mexicans don't celebrate 5 de mayo either, it's really an American thing. I don't know much about the John green contexto of it all tho
I grew up in Germany and I distinctly remember reading the translated version of "the fault in our stars" in my sixth grade German class in like 2013 my German teacher was this young twenty something woman who wore an "okay? okay" t-shirt on the day we wrote a test on the book, which is something that entirely slipped my mind up until now
I love John Green's books, personally I dont remember being a big fan of the fault in our stars, but I loved Turtles all the way down and Loking for Alaska so much
I remember being number TWELVE on the waitlist to check out TFIOS from my junior high library, the absolute anticipation I was gripped by was otherworldly
Carley! I'm also a John Green stan and was putting off reading Anthropocene Reviewed. I finally got around to it and I'm only halfway through but I feel it has changed my life. I couldn't recommend it enough. The audiobook is also amazing and he reads it himself and it has a few extra essays and special tidbits
i love you so much because you’re one of the only people i know who understands this tumblr 2010-2014 lore that i miss so much on a daily basis thank you for your work please keep talking about this
“i am the person today because i read john green books as a child” EXACTLY. i remember reading will grayson x2 in 2022 during 7th grade and absolutely adoring that book. i could relate to the characters and i loved the writing styles. the writing in will #2’s chapters reminded me of how i used to write and i loved that. the book really helped me, especially since i read it in such a hard time in my life (first year of school in a few years, i was in a bad relationship, etc.) and it really inspired me to become a writer. ive read it about 3 times now, and ive read a few other john green books, but no other book has impacted me as much as will grayson x2 id also like to mention that tfios is almost always checked out at my schools library. the kids are alright.
The way the memory of jim chapman accidentally outing the relationship of Zoella and Alfie snapped to the forefront of my frontal lobe so quick, what a time
Girl, I found a lump in my boob the NIGHT I finished TFIOS as a 16 year old in 2012 (it was benign, don’t worry). I truly thought I was entering my Hazel Grace Lancaster era.
this video helped heal my inner preteen who was earnest and weird and trying to connect on the Internet. hilarious video that said things that needed to be said
@@uncarleyby the way, I think you would really enjoy the essay on sunsets in The Anthropocene Reviewed. It talks about this idea of using irony as a shield and how John has come to embrace his own earnestness.
I started as an English teacher in 2013 (I’m a school librarian now). In my first year of teaching, my 8th grade students had a classmate dying of cancer, and I had us read The Fault in Our Stars together. It was tremendously helpful to them and, 11 years later, I think is my proudest teaching moment. :)
i absolutely love youtube videos that just send me directly back to the 2012 hellscape of being a girl on tumblr like that is where i belong in my basement with an unreasonable amount of internet freedom
I've been in the vlogbrothers community since 2008 - I'm in the intro of the video but with how INTO the community I was (am?), I can't imagine learning too much new information... but I feel like this topic is so catered to me that I had to immediately click anyway. Thank you for your service Carley 🙏
i also have been hit by a wave of nostalgia seeing the turtles all the way down interviews, like it's been nice seeing john green again in that capacity
