DIY Kayak Boat Canoe Loader No LIFTING!

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A DIY kayak loader that uses a winch instead of your back to car top your boat! Easy one-person loading with simple PVC and winch solution for heavy boats or for those with back or shoulder issues. I have standard Yakima areostyle crossbars and basic round sidebars that you can find from any roof rack supplier but this would work for any shape bar as long as you have access to the end of the bar. As for the parts for the build...why spend over $600 when you can do it for under $50? All you need is a couple 1-1/2" PVC pipes, a small wooden board, small winch and tow rope, a few stainless steel bolts, small pulley, and a carabiner. Use your existing tie-down straps as the bridle and you're able to easily car-top your kayak in just minutes.
For those looking to build a similar system, here are a few close-up photos that may help -
www.starpathim...
I just used the Yakima Skyline Towers, the 60" steel areostyle crossbars, and repurposed the sidebar rails from an old Yakima Showboat system. But you can find generic sidebars/bar clamps online, just look for ones with low profile clamps. If you don't have any side rails, that is probably the crux of acquiring the hardware for the build.
I bought mine from RackWarehouse but I know Amazon and other retailers carry them.
www.rackwareho...
Yakima Skyline Towers (4 pack), part number - y0148
Yakima Landing Pad 13, 4 Pack - y0239
Yakima CoreBar M 60" Bars - y0422
Here is a pic of the sidebar rails and clamps - www.starpathim...
The white part is just some PVC pipe I slipped over the rail before I clamped it down to act as a roller. It's not really needed but I think it helps a bit.

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@404-Err0r 3 года назад

Of all the diy solutions I've watched, this takes the crown by 100 miles... exactly what I need to load a 41kg kayak on my suv. Thank you so much for sharing mate!!

@stigcc 5 месяцев назад

There is a much easier solution, search for boat on the roof ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dt950vQP_AI.html

@laurielyon7740 3 года назад

Very slick! Good video and well presented. Great job. It would be difficult if not impossible to explain why there are those who would offer a thumbs down. It’s creative, cost effective, clever and simple. In fact far more clever but certainly not as simple as the ‘thumbs-down’ folks. And that may be the explanation.

@SuperChriscunningham 5 месяцев назад

I tried your idea without winching . Once the kayak is between both pvcs it’s easy to slide it all the way onto the racks.. I just acquired a 18 Necky fiberglass kayak and it easily slid to the roof rack

@trailbossx2 Год назад

I put a blanket, on my car roof,,,,,then I use my folding, 20 foot gorilla ladder,,,it folds to 5 feet,,,and lean it on the side edge of my car roof,,lay the canoe, hull, up,,and parallel to the car,,,,90 degrees, to the ladder,,,extended 20 feet,,,the angle is super easy to slide the canoe up,,,,and I straddle the ladder, and "walk",, my 16 foot Grumman's, aluminum,,,or 15 foot Coleman canoe,,,,each, about 75 lbs,,,,to waist level,,then get to the side, of the ladder, and slide to the top of may car,,,,then fold up the ladder,,,secure my canoe,,,with 4 foam, walmart blocks, for canoes,,,,and tie the bow, and transom, with rope to the frame,,,and use surfboard, soft racks,,for tie down, thru the windows,,,midcanoe,,,easy,,,simple,,,and just reverse the processs,to unload,,,,,,not as mechanical, as your tecnique,,, but absolutely gets the job, done,,,much easier, than lifting it,,,old school,,,less scratches, too,,,guys come up to me,,,,same way,,,,,hate back spasms,,,and I use tons of gear,,,,trolling motors,,,sonar,,,rod holders etcc,,, so this lightens, and one manifies, the roof unloading trip,,,16, and 20 foot, gorilla ladders, are about 100 bucks,,,but most guys, already have one,,,,,great vid,,,,😎

@VincenzaV1 4 года назад

That is the BEST kayak top loading system I have ever seen! Thank you for the tip....

@tomwilkinson2883 3 года назад

Exactly what I need my yak is 48kgs and I've got a stuffed back I might upgrade the PVC pipe but fantastic idea thx for posting this mate unreal 👌👌👌👌👌🛶🛶🛶🛶🛶

@josepeixoto3384 3 года назад

Best idea ever for that i would use 4 pcs of pipe,2 smaller diameter ones go inside the 2 larger ones , 6 inches, drill holes at the junction, and use a pin or a 6mm bolt thru; then disassemble,easy to store in car edit; i have 2 small pcs of bar steel, 3/4 by 1/8th with a 6 mm hole , protruding from under the hood, on each side, to tie the nose of the boat down,i like to look at the 2 ropes while i drive no,i did not drill thru the hood, i removed one nut from the hinge,underneath, on each side,bolted the small appendix steel bar to it, comes up thru the gap,the hood closes without touching it, painted the color of the car, still everybody asks what is that,and of course they ask me to open the hood to see

@gustavolara8376 3 года назад

Thank you very much, you are an ingenious creative, thank you, my canoe weighs 79 pounds, but for the pvc to have more rigidity, cut a 2x4, and round the corners so that it could enter, with the help of a hammer, they are very good Thank you, it was very difficult to get it on the mini vans Dodge Grand Caravan, be sure to be creative and share it

@dewdog 3 года назад

Thanks...I though I would be stuck with getting a under 50 lb kayak. I can now go bigger.

@briangascoigne3460 3 года назад

looks great - i'm not getting any younger and my kayak weighs 64 LBs it's getting hard for me to wrestle it around TY

@robertchadwick1552 Год назад

Excellent Job on that DIY. Thanks for sharing this.

@nelsonwalker7105 3 года назад

well done i liked the narration instead of talking outdoors with wind noise while you are actually doing the operation.

@larryborshard7824 2 года назад

Brilliant, Alan! I hope that sends a message to Thule and their $900 msrp Hullavators, which, BTW, is not one size fits all. Its advantages depend greatly on roof rack/vehicle height, kayak dimensions, user height and strength, and possibly knee condition. Love your can-do result! Would love to see a close-up of the PVC ends and how they hook into your rack. Thanks again!

@urbantone 4 года назад

Excellet idea many thanks from Luleå north of Sweden

@FishYourHeartOut Год назад

Wondering why more people AREN'T doing this? I just bought a old town sportsmen 120 PDL and I top it on my jeep patriot but it's getting old lifting it! A trailer just isn't in the works at the moment..I'll have to play around with some ideas like this for my kayak.

@Randy-ul5hy Год назад

Fantastic idea... I am 62 years old with back and shoulder problems and was just looking at ways to get my 12 foot Sportspal canoe onto my roof rack by myself. I actually thought of the same DIY set up but without the winch as I do not think I will need it. The rails should allow me to just slide the canoe up and onto the roof rack without any back lifting involved...same thing in reverse to take it off. I was thinking ABS for the rails however I like the idea of your PVC better as it can more easily be heated to mold the ends to securely attach the the roof rack ends. Bravo! and enjoy the $ 600.00 saved!!!

@harleycleanslate 3 года назад

and just to kick the whole thing up a notch i may build it with a $70 electric winch from harbor freight. I have to get my Hobie Outback to the roof of my Ford F150/camper shell. Do you take the winch off when not in use to protect it from the weather?

@AlanHowellphotovideo 3 года назад

I usually take it off if I'm not paddling that week, or if I'm parked in an area that it might get stolen. I was going to go with the electric winch system but when I tested the small manual winch it was plenty fast. I also was going to use a drill with the manual winch but by the time I could get the drill out of the car and get it attached, I could have the boat lowered on the ground anyway. So, for me at least, simple was the path.

@junarganosa4626 2 года назад

@@AlanHowellphotovideo how do install the manual winch

@johnnypea43 Год назад

Dude! This is great! A lifelong paddler, I haven't had too much of a problem loading and unloading kayaks or canoes until recently when got a pedal kayak which is just too heavy and cumbersome to realistically (safely) get up there on a regular basis. I have the same outback too and essentially the same Aerobars, so I am going to look into making one of these. Thanks!

@rickrangel6938 3 года назад

WOW!!! Great Idea. Yeah, those Kayak Lifters like the Yakima Showdown Kayak Lifter, the Nautic Rhino Rack Kayak Lifter and the Thule Hullavator Pro Kayak Lifter are just so so super expensive. About 700 buck out the door. So how much did you spend total, under 100 bucks right? LOL. Your a genius Alan!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 3 года назад

Thanks Rick! Yeah, it was about $50 I think. Granted, I already had the roof rack and crossbars.

@rickrangel6938 3 года назад

You did a most excellent job! Thank you so very much for posting and sharing. We dummies sure appreciate the entire RU-vid DIY Community. Have a bless day Alan.

@aderiley6592 3 года назад

Brilliant. It's often the simple solutions that work the best. Thanks very much for sharing your idea. 💙🤙👍

@evelyndorman5301 4 года назад

Nice! Unfortunately I have the Jlow racks on my Suburu Forester.

@daverage4811 3 года назад

Great idea! I’ve got a bad back but just took up kayaking and the worst part for me is the unload and load. PVC and a heat gun brilliant!

@zulhaswadizulkipli6211 4 года назад

Hi. May i know how thick are the pvc pipes u using? Im creating a loader exactly same as urs, but still in doubt about tensil strength of the pvc pipe i use ( 1x 3mm thick pipe with another smaller pipe inside). My kayak weight around 88lbs (40kg), quite heavier than urs right 😅🤣

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

It will just depend on how wide/thick your roof rack crossbars are but I just used schedule 40, 1-1/2" inner diameter PVC for mine. My kayak weighs about 68 lbs. and barely bends the pipes at all.

@mayham.action Год назад

Hi Allan, this is ingenious! Just found a winch on CL for $15. 1 1/2” seems beefy but no deflection. What length are your rails? I have a Honda Pilot so likely a bit higher than your car. Thinking 10’ would do the job. Thanks again for sharing this invention

@AlanHowellphotovideo Год назад

I think mine were just under 8' but you really have lots of leeway in how long you make them. The longer they are the less the winch has to work, and perhaps adds a bit more of a safety margin, but the shorter they are, the easier they will stow and you can even use them inside a regular parking space or two without taking up another parking space in a crowded lot. 10' seems reasonable but I would experiement and start off long then adjust down to your preferred length. I will add that keeping them a little short where they hover about 2-3" off the ground really helps with uneven parking spots. Once you put the boat on they will touch the ground anyway.

@scottwegler7546 4 года назад

Perfect - I have a lifted Jeep Wrangler, and at 44 hoisting my tandem kayak (85lbs) is a nightmare. This is a great solution.

@m.g.2926 4 года назад

I have a Jeep too. I'd love to see what setup you design if you can share a video somehow. :)

@jimquantic Год назад

That's pretty ingenius. And I appreciate it. For me, with a bad back, but not too bad, I use something a little simpler. 1. Back Subaru to the canoe. 2. Flipe the canoe upside down. 3. Pick up one end of he canoe, not the entire canoe---and sit that one end onto the racks. 4. Go to the back of the canoe, pick up THAT end and slide it on. I never lift the entire canoe, just one end at a time. But your concept and execution is the bomb, I admit.

@johnnypea43 Год назад

I've used a similar technique for large canoes, but a flat canoe upside down is easier to manage than the slippery round kayak hull, just ask my side-view mirror.😕

@rollandjoeseph 2 года назад

Unfortunately my truck is much higher for that , nice setup tho

@kksinn1165 4 года назад

Great idea. This is the best method I found after days of search on the web. 👍👍👍

@bbyghostie 4 года назад

This is genius, thank you for sharing!! I am planning on getting a 76 lb kayak and really don't want to spend the hundreds on a fancy load assist system. This will help a lot when I go on solo trips!!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

That's great to hear! Be sure to check out the link to the additional photos in the video description. They may help give some ideas on how to mount the winch and run the tow rope :-)

@BRAVEONPRECIOUS 2 года назад

Brilliant! Thank you so much!😊

@branonpsu 2 года назад

Dude you rock! I am 47 and back is still good, and I want to keep it that way 😉Thanks

@AlanHowellphotovideo 2 года назад

It's definitely helped me stay on the water longer. 🙂

@tommyhuffman8781 6 месяцев назад

Howd you mount the winch to the roofrack? this is pretty dang ingenious!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 6 месяцев назад

I literally just lashed it to the bars with the rest of the tow rope. This way I didn't have to add any other hardware or mount. Holds perfectly. www.starpathimages.com/SPI-Archives-ClientGalleries/SPI-PhotoArchives/Kayak-Loader

@hughprice1533 4 года назад

Thank you very much for this. I have just finished making my rig and indeed it does work. There is a lot of load on the winch board so that has to be well secured and you need to ensure the design doesnt mean the winch handle fouls the roof rack. The securing point on the kayak is also important, especially at the bend at the top of the pipe, but the end result is having a back that still works for a change. The plastic pipes amazingly are fine with the strain and it is so easy to rig and de-rig. Great idea!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

That's awesome! Well done Hugh! I found the build fun to create and it sure does help my back in the long run. Takes a litle longer to load and unload but it's well worth saving the back and shoulders. I've also found at public launches people are curious about it and willing to help which saves me even more time lol.

@hughprice1533 4 года назад

@@AlanHowellphotovideo I have been skirting round this idea but was thinking always of needing to use wood so your idea of pipe was the clincher. I used 40mm waste pipe and solvent welded a 135 degree bend and then a short bit of pipe to fit into the roof bars. I have friend who has been struggling loading his canoe and he is going to love this too. Being an engineer (or was anyway) I am still thinking up refinements so this will keep me amused for sometime yet. Thanks again and thanks for sharing.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

@@hughprice1533 , That's great news and would be interested in any refinements you come up with. I had looked at securing the winch board with U bolts and painting it white to match the car but paddling season came about sooner than expected lol. After sticking with the bit of tow rope to secure the winch board I realized it actually kept from scratching up the crossbars and was still pretty easy to take off and on. However, I just leave it on the roof rack most of the time now since I paddle fairly often.

@hughprice1533 4 года назад

@@AlanHowellphotovideo Yep been there with the u bolts and like you gave it up. I noticed your lashing and decided if it worked for you it would certainly work for me. Being aged as well and as our paddling season has started here in the UK I set off for the first paddle and ricked my back. It was either find a different way of loading cheaply (paying money for these things hurts my finer feelings) or give up paddling. Thanks to you I have got the right option. The only real issue is the small section when the kayak comes off the tube and rotates onto the bars and I think the lead is all importnat there. I am using a sling at present so will experiment again tomorrow. The monsoon returns here for wednesday onwards but we need it. I will keep you posted!

@waynef8856 4 года назад

This is GENIUS!!! And it's exactly what I've been looking for to load my 17 foot Grumman aluminum canoe onto my minivan! Thanks for posting this!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

My pleasure...it really works great!

@rapidsplash9339 4 года назад

Love the video-- extremely user pleasant and lots to see!

@dgmenace73 Год назад

Way to go!!! Thanks for this video!

@Mike-co9te 4 года назад

Great idea! Thank you for sharing.

@stevedallas007 6 месяцев назад

Super Nice. Suggest getting rid the hand crack changed out to just a bolt. Use a good electric drill to crank.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 6 месяцев назад

Yes that seems like the best plan, and was what I had originally. But I found it was quicker to just crank it a few times instead of charging batteries, getting the drill out, placing it on the bolt and running the drill, and placing it back in the car.

@STho205 5 месяцев назад

The winch is nice. I just use block and tackle and pull it from the boat side (by hand) so I make sure it is sliding up evenly. Then I use the tailing end of the rope as the tie down over both rack rails.

@MikeTellsIt 23 дня назад

Excellent. Do you use the pipes to slide it back off? I have an Old Town Pdl 106 I've been lifting onto my Toyota Sienna like @veroman007 suggests. That's getting tiring. Thanks for the idea.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 22 дня назад

I definitely do. I just reverse the process. Makes life a little easier at the end of the day.

@wordzenpix 3 года назад

Brilliant, can't beat minimalist engineering.

@jamesgrills5222 3 года назад

Great innovation, thanks for sharing Alan. I'm going to build something similar but I have one question for anyone who has done this.. Does this lead to hull damage over time by friction in the same place? I'm thinking to make a wrap-around harness to avoid direct contact.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 3 года назад

None that I've seen. The PVC is pretty slick so it glides very easily.

@blackprince4074 3 года назад

Spray some roller door lubricant or similar on the pvc pipes for less friction.

@stepheneurosailor1623 Год назад

Brilliant,

@ronbelote 3 года назад

Badass !

@jay.t.foulds Месяц назад

Thank you. I've been scanning videos for awhile, looking for a sideload assist option. While yours isn't 100% what I'm looking for, it absolutely guides me in the right direction. Very much appreciated. 🙏🏻

@lakiraly 3 года назад

Great idea, thanks for posting :-)

@abc123music4me 4 года назад

great idea! Thanks for sharing!!

@panaybacalaoify 4 года назад

If you find a way to store the pipes on the roof will make this amazing.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

They can definitely ride on top. You just have to make sure they are wrapped properly so they won't slide and keep the bent section upfront to reduce whistling.

@woodsie7222 3 года назад

Awesome

@Cad1900 Год назад

Awesome idea and video thank you. I made a similar contraption out of pvc but with no winch. I made two verticals similar to yours only I added a perpendicular piece to each vertical about waist high that sticks out 15”. I find it pretty easy to lift the boat waist high to the perpendicular’s and sit it there. Now I can lift with my legs and push the kayak onto my roof racks pretty easily. I use Yakima kayak holders. I use a marine grade bungee loop drilled through the top of each vertical to secure them to the Yakima holders.

@susanbrogno2553 Год назад

do you have pics or a video?

@Cad1900 Год назад

@@susanbrogno2553 sorry I do not. Mine looks like an “H” looking at the side of the car. I used pvc T’s on the vertical pvc legs to connect the horizontal bar of the “H”. I did not glue the horizontal bar so it can be easily taken apart. The vertical legs of the “H” are spaced to match the roof rack bar Center to Center dimension. Right below the horizontal “H” bar I added another pvc T in the vertical leg with a 12” pvc glued into it. This 15” part sticks out and creates the place on each leg where you sit the kayak. All the legs are 1 1/2” pvc. I drilled hole’s through the top of each vertical leg and added marine grade bungee and that loops over my roof rack bars to hold the whole thing steady while loading the kayak. After winter is over I may get everything out and make a short video. This thing comes apart easily and fits in the back of the car for transport. It’s sturdy my kayak weights 56lbs and 14’-6” long and it’s pretty easy for me to load. I cannot load it without this loader.

@Randy-ul5hy Год назад

@@Cad1900 Yup...this is exactly what I am going to make as I dont need the winch...just a way to roof load without using my back to pick up the canoe..Thanks!!!

@Cad1900 Год назад

@@Randy-ul5hy Great! LMN how it works for you.

@Randy-ul5hy Год назад

@@Cad1900 So how do you get the angle at the top were the PVC joins the existing roof rack? What I refer to is once the 2 PVC side rails slide onto the 2 butt ends of of the roof rack, it needs to then be angled down on a 45 degree or so to meet the ground. I cant see from his video how he made that bend. He said he used a heat gun, but I think that was just to flatten the pipe a pit. How do you get the bend/curve? Thanks!

@hetzlerm1 Год назад

Thank you. This is awesome

@norwegianminiranch 5 месяцев назад

Nice! I've been thinking about something for getting my canoe on the top of my car. I'll definitely be makin one like this. Thank you so much for posting the video!

@thomasnewbery7449 2 года назад

I'm a septuagenarian and just bought a 16' "scanoe". Unfortunately, I have to get it up onto a B2500 Dodge truck with a contractor's rack. This appears to be the best solution short of motorizing the winch!

@Blue-Kayak Год назад

I've seen several ideas for loading kayaks, and this seems the best. I've made a few PVC archery bows with heat guns, and it really is an easy way to mold PVC pipes to any desired shape. I think a 1" X 2" board fits inside a 2" PVC pipe, which would give the pipes some extra strength.

@damkayaker 2 года назад

Subscribed for a great DIY idea! Before this season I had no problem loading/unloading a 13'6" Ocean Kayak Trident overhead using center grab handles, up 2 steps of step ladder, on to a full size van with Yakima rack. My current dilemma is this. Around the New Year I got a mild case of shingles from left scapula under arm to left chest which cleared up in about a month. Didn't go for an anti viral Rx and got post complications (nerve damage) left arm was dominate (high side for loading on passenger side) Strength is coming back but this idea might be it for my sit-on-tops. That's a nice kayak you have. What brand is that?

@Vylkeer 4 года назад

Great ingenuity, congrats.

@jrgenfriborg3508 4 года назад

Very nice job, Well don.

@peternohlmans4588 4 года назад

nice job ….ive done one for mine im using electric winch with remote control I found the hand winches are very loud and slow

@jamesbixby6834 4 года назад

Curious: what winch did you use?

@peternohlmans4588 4 года назад

im using a ... winch for a ATV motor bike I got it from ebay

@louisetremblay5603 4 месяца назад

I really want to get a paddle powered kayak this year. I'm waiting for shoulder replacement surgery, and this will be perfect. Thank you !

@renatococozza1061 2 года назад

hi, I have a kayak that weighs 92 lbs. pvc pipes hold this weight ?? thank you

@AlanHowellphotovideo 2 года назад

Yes, you might have to use slightly thicker PVC but it will work.

@renatococozza1061 2 года назад

@@AlanHowellphotovideo thank you

@tjsouthard870 2 года назад

You're a Wizard!

@donboggs3880 3 года назад

I like your adaptation! Great solution. I'll may be trying to work out a canoe on top of a shuttle bus. Of course the 9'8" height is problematic. Maybe somehow a side mounted roof ladder as tracks and some type of aluminum trolley? Anyway, thanks for your share.

@papabeoms 4 года назад

Hello. I live in Korea. I tried diy because it was too expensive, but it's not easy because I don't have any experience. I've been looking everywhere for information, and I've found this great information. Thank you. Also, thank you for sharing the detailed information. It's very helpful.

@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 2 года назад

It's any kind of High stretching kills my back for many days, OK at the time but later 😥 Good job, something to consider 👍

@seeshel63 Год назад

As an older single female, I need these rails; doubt I could mount a wynch but maybe I could push it up the rails. Thanks!😊

@andyespenan5919 3 года назад

Thank you for posting!

@ospreymanlott7975 2 года назад

Great idea! Would have liked to have seen how you shaped the tube to fit your bars. Also, in another vid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uGLbqmkiuKY.html he put 1.5" pvc into 2" and used some EPDM rubber to keep them from sliding so the long legs could be shortened. I use a roller loader on my hatch, but the lift is tough for a 65yr old like you! My yak is 65lb too and am considering getting a small pickup with a low lift to the bed and slide it in. But a more expensive solution yet would be better for dirt roads and flooded roads from the tide than my toyota matrix.

@dellam04 2 года назад

Brilliant idea... I love it! Oh BTW... I have an Outback just like that and same color too... LOL!

@hectoralers84 3 года назад

Genius contraption!

@deescott7301 3 года назад

Great idea and very clear instructions! I was thinking about buying a lighter kayak so you probably just saved me over $900.

@kaptenriskonfishing1030 4 года назад

Like+84👍👍

@TheKimbin1985 3 года назад

great idea. well done. Im 5'4 and have a campervan and was wondering how id go about loading and unloading a kayak to the roof racks. i have seen these motorised ones before but not with the boat hand crank

@fern9234 3 года назад

Nice idea. In going to try something similar. Btw you may want to tie down the front nose of the kayak so it doesn't catch wind and want to pull up. I've seen a kayak tear the rack off a car before. thanks for taking the time to post this video

@jimjackson1788 Год назад

This is the best I’ve seen! Really no lifting. Congratulations and thank you.

@sameerh.mohamed7913 4 года назад

Doing mine after watching your video.Already bought the winch nuts wood board etc ..thanx a loads

@drn2183 3 года назад

Awesome! Thanks!!

@CaptVideo 3 года назад

Appreciated.

@billbeach5927 5 месяцев назад

Somehow I missed it. What is the function of the side rails. Couldn't you just attach the winch to the primary cross bars?

@AlanHowellphotovideo 5 месяцев назад

Certainly. It would still get the boat up on the car without the side rails. Although, you're more likely to scratch the paint on the car when it goes over the top as the boat tends to rock at that position without the rail. Also, the other rail enables bracing of the winch system. But it's totally possible to not use a winch and get the boat on the car.

@bobjohnson6371 3 года назад

Great idea, thanks for posting the video. Gonna get to work on mine, to get a couple hobies on top of my jeep.

@r.h.u.2387 Год назад

Simple y práctico, es excelente!! Muy buena idea!! Gracias!!

@frasier446 4 года назад

The end caps on the Outback they look oval how did you get the PVC PIPE shaped to go Match it when you press it on them ? Can you show a close up shot / video of the PVC pipe they look oval when laying on the ground. Thanks in Advance and great system you put together....

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

Hi Frasier, I just used a heat gun to melt the PVC to the oval bar shape. All you have to do is start heating the end of the PVC and once it starts getting soft you can push it onto the bar and it will take that shape. As soon as it's the right shape just let it cool and it will harden back to the shape you want.

@farnorthpicker56 4 года назад

Excellent job! Saved yourself a pile of $$$$. I have a Wilderness Systems Ride 135. It’s bad enough loading it on our suv, but it’s an absolute beast to put on top of our f150 ! We looked at Thule Hullivators but the price is ridiculous! I may make a system like this. Thank you for taking the time and effort for sharing.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

All of these roof rack prices are way out of hand. That is for sure. Thanks for watching!

@TheGoatRope 3 года назад

I have tried to stretch 1 1/2 pvc all afternoon over those same rails without success... Lol I will try 2 inch tomorrow. What did u use to stretch it with?

@AlanHowellphotovideo 3 года назад

I just flattened it out with a small 2x4 block of wood after heating it with the heat gun. It was pretty quick once I got the hang of it. I also placed some wet rags inside the tube to keep it from flattening out all the way.

@TheGoatRope 3 года назад

@@AlanHowellphotovideo awesome thanks. Appreciate the video. Will tag you after I get mine running up on a future video.

@TheGoatRope 3 года назад

@@AlanHowellphotovideo finishing it up tonight... cant wait to put the kayak on it now and test it. I upgraded your model ;)

@TheGoatRope 3 года назад

Alan... I gave you some credit in the description. Hope you enjoy. Thanks for ideas. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F0T8POF15GE.html

@stevenrldenault7451 3 года назад

Hi Alan, great concept, I going to try making this as I'm starting to struggle with loading my watercraft (10' SOT Kayak, 14' Sportspal sq stern canoe and a 17' aluminum freighter canoe). How long are the beams before you heat bent and heat fitted them to the roof rack shape? I'm guessing that with the use of the winch the sharpness of the angle to the ground is not an issue. Good idea too, to keep the beams off the ground (:. Your solution should help me get another 10+ years of fishing regardless of which watercraft I want to take. So many beautiful small lakes where I am, most need a 4x4 to get into them so trailers are a no go. I live near the Manitoba/Ontario border about 1.5 hours from Lake of the Woods and some really amazing backcountry. Where the Prairies and Canadian Shield meet. Cheers ! Steve (65 yrs)

@AlanHowellphotovideo 3 года назад

Hi Steven, on the rails, I think it just depends on how tall your vehicle is, and how you want to store them. I tried to keep it at an angle where if I was parked in a marina parking lot, I wouldn't take up too much room for other vehicles...or at least for very long. I also store the rails inside the Subaru but if I have a passenger I strap them to the roof rack and they ride fine as long as they are secured with straps properly. But, for my setup, I think the rails are 7.5' feet total length, and about 6" from the bend...but that was simply made to fit my particular roof rack crossbars. However, I will say the 6" length seems to be a good balance of strength and ability to get off and on the bars easily. I think if you practice with the heat gun and the PVC you'll get the hang of it very quickly to match your crossbar size. That's a great area you are in. I've fished up on Lake Salvesen (Ontario) and bit and near Lake of the Woods....amazing fishery! Good luck with your build and I hope it greatly extends your time on the water.

@81kenster 4 года назад

Hello. I also have an outback like yours. My crossbars are different than yours. I have just the factory crossbars but it seems like you have another set up. Was that something you purchased? And would you be able to tell me what brand it is or what it is called? Thank you.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

I just used the Yakima Skyline Towers, the 60" steel areostyle crossbars, and repurposed the sidebar rails from an old Yakima Showboat system. But you can find generic sidebars/bar clamps online, just look for ones with low profile clamps. If you don't have any side rails, that is probably the crux of acquiring the hardware for the build. I bought mine from RackWarehouse but I know Amazon and other retailers carry them. www.rackwarehouse.com/yakima-8000148-streamline-series-skyline-towers.html Yakima Skyline Towers (4 pack), part number - y0148 Yakima Landing Pad 13, 4 Pack - y0239 Yakima CoreBar M 60" Bars - y0422 Here is a pic of the sidebar rails and clamps - www.starpathimages.com/SPI-Archives-ClientGalleries/SPI-PhotoArchives/Kayak-Loader/i-WCZmcwS/A The white part is just some PVC pipe I slipped over the rail before I clamped it down to act as a roller. It's not really needed but I think it helps a bit.

@Avacarho 3 года назад

Awesome idea. Your manual winch reminds of one for pulling a boat onto a trailer.

@danaroman4694 2 года назад

Thanks again for this amazing video. Is there a reason to use the pulley vs just the boat wench that is positioned in the middle of the 2x4 and facing the kayak? Thanks!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 2 года назад

Yes, the pulley takes a lot of load off of the winch so when you are lowering the boat back down it doesn't start to spin too fast, or make it too hard to crank up manually, otherwise it can make it too hard to hold on to the crank arm. It also gives you extra room to add another boat if needed. I found it pretty important to have the pully centered where it directs the pulling force directly to the center of the boat. If its not centered it will cause the boat to tip off one of the rails. Hope this helps! :-)

@abitaisyummy 4 года назад

Very cool! i'd pay you to build one for me but I don't see where you offered that service :) So, the bend in your PVC doesn't look like an elbow or 90 degree fitting. I know you melted the ends to go over the rack ends. How is the bend in the PVC created? Thanks!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

I just used a heat gun and once it started getting a little malleable, I took a small block of wood and flattened the end slightly to start matching the shape of the oval crossbars on the roof rack. I made sure not to burn the PVC by checking to make sure it wasn't turning brown too much. Once I could slide the PVC on the bar I simply let the weight of the PVC slowly bend the pipe until it reached about 2-3" off the ground. I made sure that each PVC pipe had the same bend angle and fit properly so I could use either pipe on either crossbar. They are virtually identical doing them in this fashion.

@danaroman4694 3 года назад

Can you share how long the PVC pipe is that you had on the side? Also how do you secure the kayak? Do you have straps around it and then cinch? Lastly do you have instructions how you put the pulley on the board. Thanks!!!!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 3 года назад

Hi Dana. The PVC rail length just depends on how tall your vehicle is, but I allow a few inches of gap between the ground and the end of the tubes. This way, if the ground you are parked on is a little uneven, the rails will self adjust once you put the boat on it. For securing, I just use the regular tie-down straps. I don't use ratcheting types though as they can damage the hull if cranked too tight. Remember to secure the ends of the tie-down straps so they are not flapping in the wind and get frayed. For the pulley, I just used the tow rope section that I cut off the winch to reduce the amount of rope on the winch. I have some pics in the video description that should show how I just basically lashed the pulley to the wooden winch board. Hope this helps, and good luck on your build!

@volkhen0 5 месяцев назад

I think RU-vid reads my mind ;)

@sueberry2532 4 года назад

I have a RTM disco kayak and a nissan q....can you advise re a winch i can attach to the roof bar(with adaption) +/- plug into car battery/cigarette lighter please? I really like your idea, its brilliant! I need something to help me get it from ground level onto the roof and back down again on my own as i cant lift it/transfer on my own.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

Something like this would probably work, although you would have to replace the cable with a tow rope to keep from scratching the top of the vehicle. www.amazon.com/Portable-Remote-Control-Vehicle-Recovery/dp/B001OBN03I/ref=pd_sbs_263_6/130-0558299-3544501?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001OBN03I&pd_rd_r=6a935e13-cfaa-4169-bb2a-c512e8f9875d&pd_rd_w=vsbaZ&pd_rd_wg=YX7MC&pf_rd_p=d9804894-61b7-40b3-ba58-197116cffd9d&pf_rd_r=HJS9VNEPK3GP3T6B5N4Z&psc=1&refRID=HJS9VNEPK3GP3T6B5N4Z Personally, I would just use a manual winch and you can take the handle off and use a drill to crank the winch automatically. I've done that with mine with a cordless drill and it works well. You just have to use a drill that has enough power, and on a medium to low speed.

@flt528 2 года назад

This is excellent, but I would argue that the vast majority of us won't need a winch at all - just get under the kayak and shove it up the pipes to the top of the car - you'll be using the combined strength of both arms and both legs so it shouldn't be a problem unless you've got serious back problems (in which case how can you paddle a kayak?).

@AlanHowellphotovideo 2 года назад

Lifting is a compressive action on the spine. Paddling is lateral motion so it can actually help by building core strength. It certainly has for me. It does depend on the type of injury though. I have ruptured discs.

@joannebouma8868 4 года назад

Looks great! I just bought a 2015 Outback. Can I use the existing rack to transport a reasonable sized kayak with those J bars?

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

Not totally sure the weight limits on the 2015 but I think Subaru still sells a roof rack or some type of cradle so I think it probably would be fine.

@lindasmithmccormack5225 2 года назад

Great video! Thank you! You're a very handy problem-solver! So,... I'm brand new to kayaking. Yikes! I'm currently looking for a kayak to buy, which is no small feat, it seems. I'm hoping to find something secondhand, simply because this isn't a sport I'm accustomed to. I also hope to find one that is lightweight enough for my short 5'2" frame and my 57 year old body (I suffer from a condition with daily chronic pain). The sit-on seems to hold appeal; likely that stems from not wanting to get stuck in the "cockpit"! Any ideas? Do you have any suggestions of brands and options that might help me narrow down my search? At this point, I'm not sure what I'm looking at (for example, sea kayak vs. what???). What should a newbie like me be looking for? The kayak that you demonstrated with in this video looks very safe, wide, and comfortable, with enough room for two people, if I'm not mistaken. What brand is it, please? My intention is to use the kayak in a calm lake located within our town, and also along the shoreline of the Northumberland Straight (salt water) where our cottage is located. Any suggestion would be very helpful! What is your opinion of the brand Prijon? Many thanks! 😊 Linda

@AlanHowellphotovideo 2 года назад

If you're looking to do mostly lake and sea touring, I would go with at least a 12' kayak, and 14' is even better. Mine is a Viking brand and I really love it. Ocean Kayak and Perception have been around a long time as well and perform well on the ocean. I defintely recommend the sit-on-top style, especially for the ocean as it's a just easier once you get in shallower water if you need to walk over some thin spots. Haven't tried the Prijon brand so unfortunately I can answer that one. The best advice I can give is try a few out first as they may surprise you in how they perform and the comfort level can be pretty specific. For ocean touring, you want one that is longer and not too wide so you can push through the wind better and cover more water faster in currents. Hope this helps! :-)

@damkayaker 2 года назад

@@AlanHowellphotovideo - Oh I didn't read through the comment section before asking, Viking is your kayak brand. I'm gonna have to get one of those if possible. There's a war on plastic/petroleum products right now.

@yoohtoob123 Год назад

Would you consider making and selling these

@25cobrabyte 3 года назад

Awesome, what is the Kayak you have? Size and can you take in rivers with strong current or mainly lakes?

@AlanHowellphotovideo 3 года назад

It's the Viking Profish Reload at 14.8' and it's super stable and pretty fast in most water although it really excels at offshore fishing and big lakes where you need good stability, comfort, and speed. Highly recommended. They have another model called the GT which is really good in rivers/current.

@anthonybates9928 3 года назад

I have been looking for a cheap easy system to mount my kayak. This is just perfect. Simple easy too make and use. Many thanks from my back.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 3 года назад

That's what it's all about! Thanks for watching! :-)

@outsidethebox218 4 года назад

Can you describe the winch you used or possibly provide a link to it on amazon, home depot, or where ever you got it from?

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

This was the one I used, but there are several that would fit the bill. I think I paid maybe $25 bucks? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0749GHCKH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

@ivanel99 2 года назад

Will it hold a 26kg/59 lbs Kayak? I love this idea and need to confirm if it holds its weight.

@AlanHowellphotovideo 2 года назад

Mine is 68lbs. but check you car's roof rack load limit. Most are around 125-150lbs.

@surfsot3305 4 года назад

Doing this tommorow! I live in Orange Beach AL. Low crime rate except when it comes to marine equipment and trailers. Professional thieves with bolt cutters would have my trailer 1st camping trip! Just got a 15' Trident and getting it on my Tahoe is impossible solo. This is my solution! Thanks man!!

@AlanHowellphotovideo 4 года назад

Congrats on the new boat! That's a beast for sure by yourself. I may put together a short clip of the winch board as several people have asked for some specifics. It's pretty easy to figure out but making sure the tow rope is centered over the roof rack and to the center of gravity of the kayak is really the main part to work out. I also use some rubberized straps to hold the PVC rails to the roof rack as well if I'm traveling with a partner or a ton of gear. They need to be snugged down pretty good since the PVC is slick. Good luck on the build and thanks for the comment!

@surfsot3305 4 года назад

It's midnight and I'm still out measuring out things. So fired up about this idea! I'll let you know about any modifications and look forward to yours. Thanks again!