DIY Table Saw Dust Collection Improvement | Evolution Rage 5S

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DIY Table Saw Dust Collection Improvement | Evolution Rage 5S
In this video I will be trying to add another upgrade to my table saw Evolution Rage 5S. Over head arm with a blade hood and dust extraction.
Watch the video to see how to make it and how well it actually works.
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@peternatoli2555 3 месяца назад

Good work, Thomaz. Dust extraction should, must be, the first consideration for woodworking tool manufacturers. All the best.

@CasualDIY 3 месяца назад

Absolutely👍

@trenton7 3 месяца назад

I think your suction doesn’t do your build justice. Looks great, definitely inspired by it.

@CasualDIY 3 месяца назад

Thank you kindly

@davidonwp 10 месяцев назад

This is amazing, finally some real working solution. You can improve it further to get zero dust, just add a dust shoe brush (which used for CNC machines) at the bottom.

@CasualDIY 10 месяцев назад

Yes I was trying to find one but for some strange reason they were mega expensive

@davidonwp 10 месяцев назад

@@CasualDIY I see. Not sure if Amazon is available to you but it costs around $10 there.

@CasualDIY 10 месяцев назад

@@davidonwp yes but it's a Polish version and the availability and prices are very wonky

@markgambrill Год назад

Have you blocked off the hose attachment on the back? I did a load of work without a hose connected to that and it made a massive mess out the back and inside the machine. Hooked up the hose again and the mess was greatly reduced. Maybe tee off from the back of the machine for your new hood like you've done with the router? Good work though. I keep meaning to try something similar as I do tend to get covered in dust. Another thing to add is I have my saw sat on a stand that has a ply top on. So the base of the saw is effectively sealed. I do have to clean it up every now and then but it doesn't fall out the bottom. I have thought of a central extraction point in the ply but never got round to it.

@denisoriordan6739 Год назад

Second Mark’s comments Tomasz. I’m going to seal off the bottom of mine & add some 15mm holes to the zero clearance insert.

@CasualDIY Год назад

Yes when both hoses are attached the dust is reduced but still a lot of it lands underneath the machine.

@TedHopp Месяц назад

Interesting design. I'm wondering about the torque the dust guard assembly will put on the fence when the fence is far from the blade. Have you measured how much the fence twists at different offsets? You might need to consider some kind of adjustable counterweight on the sliding shaft.

@CasualDIY Месяц назад

The locking mechanism of the fence is quite strong and I have not noticed any movement in the fence

@barry.w.christie Год назад

Oh, and very nice piece of work ... forgot about that 🤣

@CasualDIY Год назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@johnvodopija1743 Год назад

Nice work Tomasz. I wasn’t expecting the structure to be so stable but it looked rock solid when you were performing the test cuts. Using the fence as a mounting point was an interesting idea. I look forward to seeing the next stage of your table saw dust collection improvements. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺

@CasualDIY Год назад

To be fair I was surprised myself how sturdy this is. So far it works great

@mikewood3334 Год назад

Clever idea there Tomasz, should promote much head scratching over the festive period. Looking forward to the next installment. Cheers

@CasualDIY Год назад

Hehe thanks, at least I'm not covered in saw dust when I use the saw now its time for the rest of the dust problem.

@calummacneill4656 Год назад

I realized a while ago that i never fold the saw away. As the stand is quite big I removed it and built a wheeled cabinet for the saw to stand on. I built that with a dust drawer at the top so all the sawdust collects in there and can get brushed or hoovered out when it's needed.

@CasualDIY Год назад

Eventually this saw will be build into a new workbench I'm planning to make ( when I gather all the funds for the materials) So a similar solution will be in place with my saw as well

@steveposton3928 Год назад

Great addition for the dust extraction, nice and sturdy. I have the RMS255 saw and i have used two brush draught excluders cut to shape for the angle guide wheel and extraction port to reduce dust there. Then a i built a little sub box underneath to catch the rest. Hope this helps , great video

@CasualDIY Год назад

Yes I'm thinking that the boxing method is the quickest and the best. Been trying different things but with poor results

@MCsCreations Год назад

Awesome work, Tomasz! It seems to work very well! 😃 About the dust under the table saw, that's a "defect" almost every table saw has. Now there's at least one in the market that comes with a dust bag to put underneath it! What I'm going to do to fix it for my table saw is to tape a plastic bag under there. 😬 With time, after I buy a 3d printer, perhaps I can make some mechanism to hold the bag there without any tape. Perhaps only with double sided tape to fix the mechanism. Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@CasualDIY Год назад

Yes it seems that way. I'm fed up with hovering the floor each time I use this saw

@hansdegroot8549 Год назад

Very ingenious dust collection hood. Thanks for sharing. I guess (nearly) every type and brand of table saws has the same issue. It's a pity that it isn't as effective as you want it to be. But I'm sure you'll come with some improvements in the near future.

@CasualDIY Год назад

That's the plan, I'm so fed up with hoovering the whole floor each time I use this saw 😅

@TheLemartes Год назад

next project improving dust collection on the miter saw.... *cue mission impossible music* :)

@CasualDIY Год назад

🤣 that's actually on the 'to do' list

@TheLemartes Год назад

@@CasualDIY I usually face the back of my miter saw on the general direction where I want my dust to go..kind of like what I do with my router table..aim and shoot method works for me for now lol

@CasualDIY Год назад

@@TheLemartes lol

@Quarantain 7 месяцев назад

Thomasz, looking forward to a video on the resolution of the dust beneath the table

@CasualDIY 7 месяцев назад

I made a video on that already. My last attempt at tackling that issue. Didn't get great results

@johnallen8680 Год назад

Good video as usual.. I've seen other vids on the dust problem that is exasperated by zero clearance throats.. Some have found that the zero clearance is restricting airflow and therefore the dust won't move properly if unvented under table 'boxing in' chambers are built and fitted under the top and around the blade. A couple of elongated elliptical holes in the throat plate to the RIGHT of the saw blade seems to help greatly in some cases.. Individuals will have to experiment, but of course you may chop up your zero clearance insert needlessly if it fails.

@CasualDIY Год назад

Well I did a plate like that but the results were negligible and most of the dust was still spraying at me. So this solution seems to work for me. Now I need to tackle the bottom of the saw so I don't have a pile of saw dust on the floor.

@johnallen8680 Год назад

@@CasualDIY Yes a dust blade enclosure underneath, but I think it will have to pull in air to allow flow.. Otherwise it could be rather like putting your hand over a hoover pipe.. Hope it works out as I have a Rage 5 and it would be great if you could to all the head scratching and experimenting /building and finally plan drawing instead of me 😁. Let me know when it's all perfected and published ! 😁

@CasualDIY Год назад

@@johnallen8680 will do 👍

@EcoHamletsUK Год назад

I'm about to set up my new workshop, and dust from my Rage 5 needs to be one of my top priorities, so thanks for the good timing. Are you going to do the mitre saw next, as that's one of my priorities too!

@CasualDIY Год назад

Yes I got plans for the mitre saw, few options and I will be in testing stages soon.

@williamredman-rz9vw Месяц назад

is there a dust collection underneath the machine there is on the r255mts, if so try connecting the 2 ports, i noticed that you connected only the top guard to your extraction unit. hope this helps

@CasualDIY Месяц назад

Had all combinations to be honest

@phoenix50 Год назад

I solved the dust problem with my Rage 5S. I sold it and bought a Hikoki. Much better.

@CasualDIY Год назад

😅👍

@fliplmb Год назад

If your saw doesn't have to leave your workshop maybe you could build it (and the router) into a cabinet on castors with dust collection under the saw.

@CasualDIY Год назад

Eventually it will be build into my new workbench so there will be a solid dust solution there, however I want something in place before that happens.

@bertfairbrother7745 Год назад

Great work Tomasz as always mate. Its such a shame we have to DIY the dust extraction systems on almost all of our kit😒😒. One of us will come up with a good idea for it one of these days, only to have it nicked by some company I guess. Keep the excellent videos coming, stay safe, warm & have a nice Christmas🎄🎄

@CasualDIY Год назад

Let them nick it so maybe just maybe my next saw will not have a dust collection problem 😂

@kenthesparky178 Год назад

Could you use bristle draught excluder to the base of this part you made so it could be pushed down onto the saw bed?

@CasualDIY Год назад

I wanted to avoid that actually, I don't like things in the way as I'm pushing material through. There is always something that could go wrong with that.

@barry.w.christie Год назад

I've been having a look and now that I've bent the plastic shroud back into shape (brand new) saw ... it's still crap (as you all know). Sooooooo, the blade cuts through the wood and a zero clearance insert on the front edge, so the sawdust should be carried through the cut/insert and emerge into the void below where it's free to spread everywhere at the moment. It might sound crazy, but how about getting rid of the plastic shroud entirely, fit a square tube with a close fitting vertical slit for the blade (maybe a slightly wider slit in the top) to the metal plate the shroud was on, then attach a hose to the bottom of that tube ... it'd be such a close fit to the blade that it'd create quite a high suction point where the dust exits the wood/insert ... it should theoretically capture the dust as it exits the cut, before it can go anywhere! Thoughts?

@CasualDIY Год назад

I was trying to do something similar but with a plastic box cut to size and molded with a heat gun. It didn't work as I imagined it in my head 🤣

@barry.w.christie Год назад

@@CasualDIY In my head everything I do is perfect ... then reality spoils it!!

@rubenbaticon Год назад

Good video.I am of Spain. Where you buy the Saw diablo for the Evolution rage 5???. For hole 1 inch

@CasualDIY Год назад

Thank you. You need a reducing ring for it it fit the 25.4mm bore hole. I bought a set of reducing rings from Bosch on Amazon 👍

@rubenbaticon Год назад

@@CasualDIY thank you

@ianwatkins3002 Год назад

In my experience Evolution equipment is designed with dust distribution as a primary design objective. 🤣 I've given up on their kit until they do something about it.

@CasualDIY Год назад

Could be a long wait 😅

@ianwatkins3002 Год назад

@@CasualDIY Indeed.

@markovulicevic8455 Год назад

Hello. Can you tell me if that saw is better than the original evolution saw?

@CasualDIY Год назад

What's an original Evolution saw? The one I got I the Rage5S

@markovulicevic8455 Год назад

I thought it might be a Freudian saw, because in Serbia there is only rage3 blade

@stephencave187 Год назад

Isn't that just like fitting the factory blade guard with integral extraction?

@CasualDIY Год назад

No, the factory blade guard is pants 😅 it prevents you from pushing the wood through, you can't see the cut line and it hardly collects any dust.

@stephencave187 Год назад

@@CasualDIY Multiple extraction points is surely the only way to get anything like a solution to this problem. 🤷‍♂️ I love your ingenuity and look forward to your work in the future. Merry Christmas to you and yours. 🤝🏻

@CasualDIY Год назад

@@stephencave187 Merry Christmas to you and your family 🎄👍