Zero Clearance Table Saw Insert Dust Extraction Experiment

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The next step in reducing the amount of sawdust floating around my workshop.
In this video I consider, compare and make the best zero clearance insert with awesome dust extraction I have ever made.
Upgrading the dust extraction path to my table saw blade guard:
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Hooked on Wood Zero Clearance Table Saw Insert:
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Комментарии : 73

@enzprintco.8625 Год назад

This was a great watch! Learn something new everyday! Thanks!!!

@GTWoodshop Год назад

Thank you. 👍

@johanfmatthee7328 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for giving credit to Dennis of Hooked on Wood. I love the green mdf 😃

@The78bluedevils 2 года назад

in the process of making inserts for my table saw. you help me same time in narrowing down my overall choices. thanks again

@GTWoodshop 2 года назад

Hi Tony, thank you. 👍👍

@daifeichu Год назад

Thank you sir for the tests on those inserts. New inserts will be produced this weekend in my shop.

@NewTestamentDoc 2 года назад

Excellently done. I'm a teacher and specialist in my field and you, my friend, are both a great teacher and a woodworking specialist of the best caliber. Subscribed today......

@GTWoodshop 2 года назад

Hi D A, Praise indeed, thank you kind Sir. You've made my day. 😁😎👍

@michaelgutierrez6564 3 года назад

That is a great improvement on dust collection. Now you need to make one with the holes on the opposite side of the slot for use with a miter gauge

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi Michael, funny you should say that, I was using the mitre sled yesterday. Extraction was minimal to say the least!👍

@vinylvinylvinyl 2 года назад

Thank you...the hole positions make great sense...... especially the three past the cut where the blade throws most of the dust.....Thank you.

@GTWoodshop 2 года назад

Hi John, you're welcome. 👍

@TolicaCanadian 3 года назад

Great job sir. Kudos for giving credit to Dennis HOW as well.

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi Tolica, thank you kindly! 👍

@ljaphillips 3 года назад

Got my sub just for use of the word "Spiffing!"

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Now thats a comment that made me smile. 😊👌😎

@jarin8464 2 года назад

Thank you sir, just the answer I have been looking for. Great experiments !!!

@GTWoodshop 2 года назад

Hi Joe, thank you. 😁👍

@Renrondog Год назад

Sir, I too have done the same (almost exact) experiment and reached the same results. Multiple large holes are the best solution for capturing blade dust . Slow cuts just short of burning the wood really helps also, more time to suck the dust down and out.

@harleywood9588 Год назад

Fantastic

@bobbg9041 4 месяца назад

You should always paint your table saw insert plates RED the red is a safety indicator letting you know your close to the blade.

@markkoons7488 2 года назад

Valuable. Thanks.

@GTWoodshop 2 года назад

Thanks Mark.

@danazlin3409 9 месяцев назад

Nicely done. However, when working with MDF you need to remember that the MDF dust is highly toxic! Always wear a respirator or a good dust mask. Good dust extraction is no substitute and the most dangerous dust is what you can't see. Be safe always.

@branchandfoundry560 5 месяцев назад

Guessing you can lead this horse to water, but...

@barrydoxseyuk 3 года назад

Great video Graham. Like your link to Dennis who I also follow along with Rob Cosman and Peter Parfit.

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi Barry, thank you. Yes great channels all three, I also watch them. 😊👍

@selianboy8508 2 года назад

spiffing vid my man and good your referenced the Big D from Hooked on Wood. I do think that cutting crosscuts along the width will help with the airflow though but, just as Dennis from HOW mentions, this may well be more aesthetic than much good! But I think that the black is better than the green - but I never see the black on sale in the UK.

@GTWoodshop 2 года назад

Hi Sellantoto, I agree the black looks awesome but like you I can't find it. 👍

@hilobemagical5814 4 месяца назад

Did I miss an explanation of why you drilled no holes on the other side of the slot? Wouldn’t “Swiss cheesing” the entire plate give the most dust extraction?

@GTWoodshop 4 месяца назад

No you didn't, I omitted holes on that side due to it being almost always covered by the timber being cut, although there may well be some milage in a few just to catch some of the dust at the end of the cut. Good point. 👍

@joebrewer5885 3 года назад

I have an old craftsman saw, but don't know why I couldn't block the back off and put some holes in my throat plate like yours and suck air in thru the holes and out the bottom of the cabinet that I have built a box on. The majority of the dust falls to the bottom but sucking air in thru the top might get almost all the dust created. Thanks for the idea to upgrade mine.

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi Joe, you're welcome. 👍

@samrix5793 3 года назад

Lol commented before watching the whole of the video

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Cheers Sam. 👍

@Themheals Месяц назад

I got one word for you and this project. 3d printer.

@outbuildinginfo 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the great video. Your Jet saw looks familiar to me and I believe mine is quite similar. Did you make any effort to seal up your cabinet between the cast top and the sheet metal box? What about the arc slot for the raise/lower hand wheel? I'm considering both ideas and wanted to know if you saw improvements in the case you did the same.

@GTWoodshop 3 месяца назад

Yes, I sealed everywher I could to increase extraction.

@outbuildinginfo 3 месяца назад

Thanks for getting back so quickly. I'll give that a try on my saw.@@GTWoodshop

@MrSnookerballs Год назад

I take it you have under table extraction so sucks down but did you have the overhead extraction running also and if so how good is the under table extraction without the overhead one running. Thanks.

@GTWoodshop Год назад

If memory serves the overhead was turned off so I could see the full impact of each configuration.

@minden1960 Год назад

I'm german and I have not all understand what you have explaned. What ist the sence ofe this holes/slots left from the sawblade ?

@GTWoodshop Год назад

Hi Jurgen, they are to allow the dust extraction under the saw table to remove the chippings optimally.

@iamthereforeimustbe 3 года назад

This is something I must do and will follow your/Dennis’ design. One query, why didn’t you raise the blade through the insert rather than rip a slot and then glue a filler piece in?

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi Andy, two reasons. 1. The MDF sits too low, the blade actually protrudes through it. 2. Even if I had cut it down I just don't like the idea, fills me with dread! 👍

@iamthereforeimustbe 3 года назад

@@GTWoodshop I can certainly understand that. 😬 I have to check everything about 4 times before I take a cut on the table saw. 😊

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

@@iamthereforeimustbe Ahmen to that, measure once, cut four times. 😁

@farrierss1724 3 года назад

Use the fence or magnets to hold it down, then raise the blade through it. My saw stop needs an 8" blade to clear that insert before cutting begins otherwise you are trying push the thing down onto a spinning blade. No Good! If no 8" blade for regular and thin kerf then I would do it his way so I can still count to ten. Even with SawStop its no go for me

@franceshawe9572 3 года назад

Wouldn't the riving knife need to be removed to enable that.

@josephKEOarthur 3 года назад

why wasnt the insert laid into the table slot for the SAW slit.. and "RAISE IT UP"?

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi Joseph, the MDF is too thick, also that method scares me a little. 👍

@onecarwood 3 года назад

Well done! I have never thought of this. I was always happy with the job just the slot being so close does. Now you’ve ruined that for me! 😃I hope the sarcasm is noted.

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi DumDumDev, absolutely, in fact my apologies for bursting the bubble. 🤣🤣🤣

@tiffymac256 3 года назад

I have never heard the words you spoke at 9:55 .. it sounded like "navia supsal" ?? what does it mean? I get it that it is a small measure but what is the origin?

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi Donald, two separate comments. The first ‘a Navi’ a comment from my Gran I believe, she used to say ‘Just a navi more please’ I think referring to a drop of milk in her tea. The second I’m sure you will of heard before ‘Soupcon’ I think its French, pronounced ‘souson’ again meaning just a little. (I hope) 😁

@selianboy8508 2 года назад

@@GTWoodshop about a gnat's knacker smaller than a bee's bollock I would suggest...

@kevinc2683 Год назад

Do you find that the Festool Track Saw can replace the Table Saw. Maybe not 100% maybe saw 85%. I have a Grizzly table saw around 30 years old with the same fence as yours. Your thoughts? Kevin

@GTWoodshop Год назад

Hi Kevin, now that's a question. With planning and a few other support jigs etc then maybe you could, but it wouldn't be as quick and easy to make 'a cut' as it is with the table saw. IMO.

@branchandfoundry560 5 месяцев назад

Great discussion topic! Working through this myself with a new track saw table setup with cross-cut track fixed at 90* to the table's long edge, stop blocks in T-tracks for repeatable cuts & edge reference and replaceable sacrificial strip below the blade's cut path. It's a very nice system with the following short comings: 1. Slower workflow than table saw. 2. No dado stack capability. 3. Feels more clunky in use than table saw. 4. No ability to do box joints & beveled edge/vertical panel cuts, and nearly all miter gauge functions would require special jigs. 5. Repeatable rip cuts still require sacrificial board beneath and use of parallel track guides (it's a hassle switching between rip & cross cuts). 6. Try as I might, I never get the two 55" tracks to join up & stay perfectly straight for long rip cuts (I.e. They always end up askew at the joint with use, which makes a slightly delta-shaped rip cut with ~1/16 to 3/32" deviation at its peak.) **In theory there's no difference between practice and theory. But in practice there is.

@plssmellmycheese 3 года назад

Excellent work sir...deserve more likes!...(maybe more twerking would help with that?...)

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

I love your RU-vid name, awesome. 😎. Thank you for the compliment. Not sure about the Twerking though. 😢😂🤣

@dave_ecclectic 2 месяца назад

If the saw dust is getting on top of the table due to the blade not tracking straight, then adding collection holes only solves the problem when slicing tiny trimming cuts off the board. 98% of the time the holes are covered in normal ripping cuts. I don't really see the point in adding the holes.

@GTWoodshop 2 месяца назад

I didn't mention the blade not tracking true.

@dave_ecclectic 2 месяца назад

@@GTWoodshop I did.

@tomsherer6950 3 года назад

Why not just tape over the slot and replace when blade height decreases?

@GTWoodshop 3 года назад

Hi Tom, not sure I understand your question, could you expand a bit pls? Ta. 👍

@glenndespres5317 3 года назад

Are you suggesting some sort of simplicity? This is no place for simplicity. This is a place of high precision and perhaps needless complexity! Begone cretin!

@bobbg9041 4 месяца назад

No i don't know what 21 mil is, can you say that in thou? An imperial nation can't even measure in imperial mesurments.

@bobbg9041 4 месяца назад

Honestly, 14 mm would have been just as good just more holes but more side support 14mm or about 1/2"