Dante Vs. Vergil the brawl for it all. Published By: Capcom Developed By: Ninja Theory Platforms: Playstation 3, Xbox 360, PC Release Date: January 15, 2013
I just like how Dante said "we would've failed 20 times if it weren't for Kat" when literally this game spans up to 20 missions and Kat's been helping them in all those missions
@@alaguiza8541 well considering the game's original voicing is in english you probably should disregard the 100 times said, as it was a liberty taken with the french dub.
Like Dante of dmc3, in the beggining he doesn't give a fuck about nothing, only wanna kill his brother. In the end, he sorrows his brother's "death" and gain a purpose.
@@nahuelschumi3960 “I’ve got to stop you, Vergil. Even if that means killing you.” Dante may not have WANTED to kill Vergil, but he was ready to do so if it had gotten to that point.
Wow. The fact that you think Virgil's cause is noble is astonishingly ignorant. Dante fights to have humans freed from tyranny. Virgil allows others to fight on his behalf like a coward so he can rule over humans. I can give you 1,776 reasons why Virgil is wrong and Dante is right.
8:32 - This ends, right here. I won't let you kill each other. There other ways of settling your differences. I'm putting a stop to this sibling rivalry.
dude, you're at the wrong universe 🤔 and in case you already exist on DmC's world, you'd probably be a baby or an infant **this goes for the IRL person impersonating Nero** do you think possible Kat could actually exist on the Devil May Cry universe as Nero's mother??
@@DarkShooter942 As IRL: You're asking the wrong person, man. Perhaps you should find it out from Hideaki Itsuno or the scripter of DMC4. As Dead Weight: In my ORIGINAL Universe I didn't even know about my father's true identity until...you know... some asshole tear off my arm. And he is highly likely a virgin (you got it?xD) so I prefer to consider myself the result of a sinful relationship between Dante and Beowulf.
@@nero-sonofasshole1583 to IRL: you've got a point there to the character: when did I say anything about Vergil?? 🤔 I just said that in case you exist in DmC universe, you'd be a baby or an infant
Nah, just sit back and let the idiot devil kin poke holes in each others stomachs and chests till the cows come home. It's not like either of them has to worry about dying
@@Spider-Strife77 that "pregnant woman" was mundus' right hand who was giving birth the the ultimate weapon against all life on Earth. the original Vergil would've killed her sooner
Unpopular opinion: I actually really like this version of Vergil. I mean, he's not as badass as OG Vergil, but he's a good character. He's more cynical and is really good at manipulating people. Which actually makes him more of an asshole. I also really liked how this game built up his relationship with Dante so that it hurt a lot more when they had to fight each other.
I agree. Pretty much everything else in this game story-wise was underwhelming to me, but I actually really like this scene. Vergil's "stand aside" lines, Dante's "don't make me do this" line, and the final "I loved you, brother" were all great. Felt like a very authentic and emotional conflict between family, gotta give 'em props.
I don't think this Vergil is bad, just different not really "Vergil" but still not that bad, but the throwing sword abilties should have appeared earlier though
@@kermit4036 most people consider such characters as bad and really like that they lose in games, films, anime etc. But looking in real world, they all stand at the top because of their superior minds. That why people don't like them and that's why they always lose on fictional worlds to naive "kind" feeling protagonists, cause most people want to see that because they don't see it often in reality. It's an old cliche.
The worst DMC game ever, like if i am correct THERE IS NO FUCKING LOCK ON! and second dante acts like some alcoholic guy and has black hair but not white and third i just got bored looking at the awful stylish points pop-ups, THX GOD WHO EVER THE FUCK NINJA THEORY IS NEVER OWNED THE FRANCHISE AFTER THAT! And thats why DMC 5 exisits! But Yes i think score ost is a hidden gem.
My favorite part is where Dante says, "Sorry, brother" and Vergil states, "Don't be" with his back turned. It shows that Vergil wanted to prove his strength all along, but Dante never wanted to fight Vergil.
***** If I do pick correct, Vergil do wish to fight because it was Vergil who was staring and reluctant to take the blade out his sheath. And hence Dante had to fight.Vergil did wanted to fight because of conflicting Ideas rather than a personal battle ( Unsure if he did wanted to prove better than Dante). Vergil had his own ideas diff thn Dante. Sometimes you love some people but you have to argue or quarrel or fight just because for an idea, so i don't think those two dialogues were said in a heat of battle.
Fine, I'll accept this as an alternate reality to the original DMC. As much as I disliked Dante and Vergil here, I liked the gameplay and the art is refreshing
Not to mention that Ninja Theory attempted to do something new with the franchise as evidenced in DMC4 SE and DMC5 how Vergil's moves are based off of his DmC counterpart especially the Perfect Cut version of Judgement Cut
Christ that vergil fight in DMC3 on Dante must die mode...my God. The horror. Fighting that fucker without infinite devil trigger...Never did it. With infinite devil trigger yeah no problem.
+Grubbo It IS REBOOT, YOU IDIOTS!!!1 IT DOES NOT NEED TO HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THE ORIGINAL DMC, EXCEPT MAIN IDEA AND SOME CHARACTERS! THE ATMOSPHERE OF THIS DMC IS DMC, DEAL WITH IT!
+ПьеRO's Reviews You win if you manage to answer this tiny little question. Where does the Devil May Cry title fits on this game? Because every single game, minus DCM2 because i don't remember that black sheep very well, had implemented the "Devil May Cry" on it's story. DMC1: Dante cheesy "Fill your dark soul with light" when Trish saved him, showing that despite Dante being half demon, he still had humanity to care for what happened to Trish; DMC3: Dante fights his brother in the boundary of both Demon and Human worlds, wins, but lose his last family member alive, them Dante gets out of the tower, and Lady asks if Dante was crying, Dante replies with "Devils never cry", and Lady gives us the line "Maybe somewhere, out there a devil may cry when he lost a loved one", showing that Dante cared for his brother, even if he had to strike him down in order to avert pretty much world destruction; DMC4: Nero get angry and/or sad whenever Kyrie, his love interest, was at his reach and fails to save her, or when they use her as a meat shield to stop Nero from foil their plans. Dante get that moment where instead of calling Nero as a kid, he shouts Nero's name to make him wake up inside the Savior statue. All the godanm time i played DmC: Redundancy, i was watching either a ripoff of They Live, or just a massive amount of plot holes that made me cringe, like in the moment where Donte could've saved Kat from the SWAT raid, but did jack shit because the writters wanted a Dansel in Distress moment in their game to make it "Shakesperean". I didn't saw anything of what Devil May Cry had told me, i've only saw two idiots with super powers meddling in things that they didn't even had to be in it. You can say that it was for vengeace because Mundus killed their parents, but Donte DIDN'T EVEN REMEMBERED WHAT HAPPENED! Mundus would've be chilling in his office, enjoying ruling the world if he didn't have chased Donte for no fucking reason other than to start this godanm game, Virgil would still be acting like Anonymous Leader bullshit and Donte would've be doing all the shit he had being doing before this. Virgil didn't even needed Donte for his plan, since he can go toe to toe with his borther, them why call him and not set him in his "Fuck Mundus and Take over his place" plan? Just to set this shitty reveal that Virgil was going to be a villain that ANYONE COULD'VE SAW A MILE AWAY! Bottom line, this game deserves a 6/10 in terms of being a standalone game, and a 2/10 for being a game with the holy Devil May Cry name.
Zero The Bloodedge "Holy Devil May Cry name" Obvious fanboy is obvious, and this whole worshipping of original dmc, clouded your mind, preventing to judge and to think towards DmC clearly and logically. Now on, In first dmc, Dante experienced character development only when Trish sacrificed herself for him, which was only at the end of the whole game. Same goes for the dmc 3, Dante didnt suffer some things that may have affected his mind in the way like: "maybe I misjudged something, maybe I need to look on some things with different perspective." That never happend. All that original Dante did is that he just showed different sides of his character that never changed during the game like being cool and being serious and caring person when the plot needed him to be. Now the new Dante experienced his character development all through the game, and other characters actually affected him to make him change, like Kat who is a 100% human and not a cool devil-killer walking fanservice with a giant bouncy boobs (Im not against giant boobs, but I just cant stand the fact when girls with such boobs are jumping around like fucking rabits without hurting themselves in a process, OH and using guns big enough that can rip their hands off with just a simple recoil.) She is a conduit for Dante to understand humans and that they can be something more than just a bunch of brainless flesh and blood that brainwashed and enslaved by the media and the government. That is all what Dante could see in humans before meeting with Kat. During the game, she spoke to him forcing him to think about her as a human different from others, she sacrificed herself for him, gone through all the torture for him and Vergil, not even knowing that they would save her. There is a lot of scenes where Dante is admiting and actually caring about what she did and what she've been through for him. He learned from her experience that humans can be self-sacrificing, devoted, so he started to care about humanity. And other character: Phineas, the old demon that Dante saved. He said a thing to him that can be said instead of all this text to you: "You can see evil in me because I am a demon. Try opening your mind. It's all a matter of perspective." That what Dante did, towards humans and everything else. Learned things, changed his mind, something that original Dante never did. "You can say that it was for vengeace because Mundus killed their parents, but Donte DIDN'T EVEN REMEMBERED WHAT HAPPENED! Mundus would've be chilling in his office, enjoying ruling the world if he didn't have chased Donte for no fucking reason other than to start this godanm game, Virgil would still be acting like Anonymous Leader bullshit and Donte would've be doing all the shit he had being doing before this." - Are you really that stupid? Both Dante And Virgil was locked away from their memories to protect them, Mundus didn't knew it, so it is logically for him to destroy the spawn of his greatest foe, before it can grow into a real danger. And Vergil actually got his memmory back, Dante could get his memmory back too, dont you think? "Virgil didn't even needed Donte for his plan, since he can go toe to toe with his borther" - Vergil wouldn't be able to even walk into the Munduses tower, since he needed a distraction big enough (like Dante), not only to enter the tower, and override all the security system, to actually get into a Munduses office, but also to force Mundus to actually leave the place that is charging him with the unlimited power, to shut the hellgate. AND THEN. He needed Dante to fight with the most powerfull demon on the Earth. And yeah, Dante is stronger than Vergil, because he earned his Devil trigger, and Virgil didn't had one. "them why call him and not set him in his "Fuck Mundus and Take over his place" plan? Just to set this shitty reveal that Virgil was going to be a villain that ANYONE COULD'VE SAW A MILE AWAY!" You are so stupid. Vergil wasn't a villain in the main story, he became one in the "Vergils Downfall DLC". At the end when he told Dante about his plan to rule all the humanity, he revealed that he was thinking about humans exactly the same way, that Dante was thinking about them before meeting up with Kat, but in a little bit different way. "Humans are frail, they are like children. They need protection." He kinda had a point, but deep inside he was blinded by the power and Dante knew it. He expected Dante to understand his plan, but he didn't expected that Dante will walk through a character development, and change from a complete dick that he was in the beginning to an actual hero, that he became at the end. Hell his hair color even changed to white. Ninja Theory didn't want to bitch slap DMC fans, they just expected them to be much more smarter. What a shame. Any other questions? Or you accept the fact that I logicly answered all that stupid bullshit that you wrote above?
Honestly I kinda want a sequel to this game, I think it got a lot of hate with just the 'Devil may Cry' title alone, but the art work, combat and music was really good in my opinion. They also fixed a lot of flaws with it too with the definitive.
if only the 'DMC' fans didn't complain about the 2010 tgs trailer which lead to Capcom demanding change to NT to rewrite the story and the character of rebooted dante. thanks alot👍 DMC fans, oh and DmC couldn't get a sequel because they were bought by Microsoft
It was ok at best, tbh. The combat was simplistic compared to other entries, the characters are kinda bland and meh, except for Vergil, who got done dirty in my opinion, and the voice acting ranges from decent to bad. It's objectively an inferior product compared to the mainline titles. So don't blame the fans for not liking DmC.
I really enjoyed this game and it's interpretation of DMC's themes and ideas. There is one single thing that kind of bugs me. People constantly said that Dante's style was "Emo" even though it's more inspired by classic punk (more specifically the 1970s punk movement with the Sex Pistols, Sid Vicious and all that jazz, hence the patch on his sleeve), which makes sense since punk is all about fighting against the establishment. Rebelling against and rejecting society. Considering that the game world itself goes out of it's way to work against Dante's progress it seems to fit the setting they crafted. But I'm tired and sick and won't remember typing this so if it doesn't make much sense.... Yeah. That being said, I really liked DMC and I really am liking Devil May Cry 5.
They say emo because he's top apathetic to be a rebel. He tries to be aggressive and edgy, but fails and is coming at you with the sad gloomy face. They also say emo because the atmosphere here is basically of the times when emo subculture dominates charts. The music, the urbanistic ruined landscape, it all really resonates with emo rocking. The girl is also very emoish looking.
I’m kinda in the gray area when it comes to this game, I don’t really hate it nor do I love it. It’s just a game to play. well except for Dante and Vergil, I try to keep an open mind ESPECIALLY when it comes to to reboots but I just don’t like their designs. Their personalities kinda bug me as well
Very interesting how similar this fight is to the final battle In DMC5. The enviroment, vergil's moves, and even the clone attack is lifted straight from this fight. Take that and mix it up with the elements from the DMC3 fight, and you have a great final boss for DMC5. At least something DmC did was used in the new game.
Soap I didn’t really mind it. Dante never really cursed to often throughout the game and when he does it fit what was happening and was usually for good. I’m sure you’d be saying the same stuff if u got slugged 20 feet across a room by a 17 foot tall demon. And Nero’s cursing makes sense considering he’s only like 22-23 and still has some of his adolescent attitude and sass.
@@bootiemonhd458 Well yeah but It's kinda Strange imagine playing a Game with it's Sequels across the years. Suddenly the new Sequel comes out,the Character you play as says "fuck" it kinda feels Strange if he never said those things in the Prequels. You See the Character in a new way,y'know?
Soap yeah, I think it begins to suit though. Cuz DMC3 Dante is like 19, DMC1 Dante is like 27-28, DMC2 Dante is like 31-32, DMC 4 Dante is like 37-38. And since DMC5 is roughly 5 years after DMC4 that means Dante is like 40-43. At this point it’s pretty clear he isn’t as serious about his job as he used to be, now he’s kinda care free and pretty much doing it cus he needs the money. Which is shown by how he actually sells most of his devil arms after his missions if he thinks he doesn’t need it. It’s evident by the way he acts in DMC4 how he acts more like Dmc 3 Dante despite that being the youngest version. I think in DMC5 he’s kinda just tired of all the bullshit he’s dealt with throughout his life. Like he was acting like the mission V gave him was almost a drag and at the end of the game goes to destroy the Qliphoth root with Vergil despite knowing that Vergil could probably do it alone. Dmc5 Dante is tired and has no real goals anymore. Just living for the sake of living. It’s kinda sad honestly because while he’s still the Dante we know and love, he’s a shell of what he once was. That’s why pretty much anytime he runs into any kind of boss including Vergil, he’s just like “Aw shit, her we go again.” That’s just IMO though so I can understand ur opinion.
Honestly, I think this fight was way more tragic than the ones in the classic games. While Classic Dante and Vergil's rivalry was epic, we were essentially just supposed to take their word for it that they used to be a happy and loving family with Eva at one point. Here, we see the two of them genuinely begin to grow and bond with each other over the course the game. Right before this fight, they honestly saw each other as brothers, and we got to see their bond grow over the course of the game, which makes this fight and what happens in Vergil's Downfall all the more sad and tragic.
+Julio Andrés Torres Corazón in DMC 3 we understand why Dante and Vergil face each other, one be a complete demon, virgil thinks humans are weak and despictable, Dante at the begining isn't sure about what he wants, he goes to temeningru, not because he want to save humanity, he goes because Virgil is there, he must face him. First battle virgil is far superior than Dante, he tooks the las gift from dante's mother..... later dante meets lady, with this meeting Dante Begins to understand why his father choose the human above his own kind; humans are weak and despictable like Arkam, but they are Strong and Kind like lady..... finally Dante and Vergil Fight one last time, here Dante already took a Decision, he is a demon and a human, and like his father before him, he chooses humanity. at this point it means that he needs to fight, for the first time we see Dante fights Vergil in a serious way, he loves his brother but his brother is wrong and needs to be stopped... He won, but at the same time he lost his brother, his last family alive. He drops a tear for him, lady watch it and realizes the same as dante did before, Demons are evil creatures, but they are kind and noble too. later in DMC 1, we saw when dante Kills Nelo Angelo, at this point he just remember for a moment when vergil and him where kids, and they were a happy family
Vergil did this in the first place. I mean you guys should replay the game and see why Dante disagree with him. Vergil agreed fight for humans along with Dante, it means they just fight Mundus to freed humans from his rules, but suddenly Vergil wants to rules and started called human as 'subject' in last mission. Dante literally agreed fight for humans and killed Mundus but NOT to take his throne, if they do that it means they no different than Mundus here. While playing this game and see this scene i was like "wtf did you do? It is your plan to fight for humans along with your brother? Then why suddenly want to rule and take his throne?" The story were fine until this mission.
I always laughed when kat hides behind the trashcan and like holyyyyy shittt.... these two savages are actually gonna fight... she knew what was about to go down
The ending really broke my heart.. Neither of them wanted to fight each other. Vergil was so sure that Dante would join him he even got surprise in his voice when he repeated "The path is clear for us to rule" I enjoyed all fights except this one.
Only gameplay wise for me Everything,except Vergil in this game,felt a bit underwhelming Yes ppl overreacted with DmC cause the game didn't feel like a devil may cry game but there was a good reason for it I think the main reason as well is cause people didn't want that thing to continue the story of devil may cry since the story was,i won't sugarcoat it,bad,just straight up bad,if you remove the Vergil and Dante moments it's literally half baked mess
was gonna upvote this but decided not to. I agree that it was a good game and that it would've gotten a lot less hate if it was called something else. But I strongly have to disagree, that this game is not a Devil may cry ... This thing was more Devil May Cry than Devil may cry 2 and 4 EVER will be
Metal Sonic then you're not a fan if you prefer a series that's been stagnating and that has lost it's original style. 1 was the original, 3 was briliant but 2 and especially 4 were just garbage
I personally think that this game is alright. Sure it isn't like the orginal Dante and Vergil, but it's not so bad. To be honest, I actually like this Dante and Vergil just as much as the original Dante and Vergil. Sure it has its flaws but what game doesn't. Even everyone's favorite games can have a flaw, whether it's camera angles, type of gaming mechanics, etc. I understand WHY people don't like this game, but I don't think it's half bad.
I think it's main mistake was being called Devil May Cry. These are aight characters sure, but they're not OUR Dante and Vergil. The fact that they're linked under the title makes it feel off, when these characters would be more enjoyable as standalone than having the name of established characters.
I really love devil may Cry series and all, but i liked to play this one. The aesthetics and the freshness of concepts really got me, cause im not gonna lie, until Devil may cry 4 they were using the same stuff and that was getting old and in a way boring (Except for Dmc 3, that was the pinnacle of that old idea) I can t say that this game erased it. because Devil may cry 5 exist and thank goodness they fixed that old stuff, but i think that this game was a good try.
This Vergil and Dante is not even good by comparasion with OG. Sure it has flaw, but how tf you making a dick jokes in fighting situation? This game is good they if they give named for another game instead DMC.
@@AspieMediaBobby no that is not how this work, yes some can a tension are necesarry but put a dick joke out of nowhere is not even a funny. Not even OG Dante would jokes in a serious situation where he know that demon is a threat to him.
it was an odd ending either way, the voice actors did a good but this conflict between el donte and vergil was clearly forced to say they ended the game with the two brothers fighting
Say what you want about the overall quality of the game amd story, but this scene gives me legit chills. The tension and music build-up after the sheer emotion in this scene? Perfect.
@@mangelangel2570 noup... all DMC 3 is about family relationships and responsability, lady and his father, dante and vergil.....since the begining lady tolds you that dante and vergil love to fight each other, just like a sick game, u can see it in the first two figts... both were playing.... but the last figth is a death match no more games.... and that is really sad.... dante think he lost his brother for real this time, his last family
@@JeyvaSa Or MAYBE they have a completely different relationship in this game warranting a different kind of scene. Maybe they are just different people than the Dante and Vergil of DMC3. I love both games, I love both scenes, but I do not compare them because they are different and work well for their respective stories
To be fair this is like one of the only videos of this fight where you can see what happens if you don't activate Devil Trigger at the end. Like how his clone blocks his body.
Would have preferred a slower dissent into darkness. Felt rushed, like they were trying to figure out when to show Vergil's 'evil' side and thought, 'Meh, whatever. Now's good.'
yeah considering they never mentioned that he had a different agenda. But my opinion. But your right they could of done a better job but they just wanted to rush and put a fight in there. The soundtrack is cool though
True enough. Heck, it could have been even a more enjoyable ending. Have the two have a brother to brother moment and see who's the stronger. I know my descrip sucks, but still. Make it like DMC 3's kill one-hundred enemies fight at the end of the game. Make it enjoyable for the sake of making it enjoyable. Have some witty banter, some crude jokes - making it like they did, despite it being a well designed fight, was poorly executed.
Ninja Theory was shoving this down our throats. They kept insulting fans of the original franchise. That's why it was getting so much backlash. Also the characters were ruined. If they weren't "Dante" and "Vergil" and say the game was called something else, more people would actually love this game.
Weed Striker Ninja Theory wanted to keep the characters close to the original as possible but Capcom didn’t want that. And how about the death threats NT received from angry fans prior their supposed insults? I love DMC and have been a fan for a long time. But some fans weren’t right.
I have my own reasons why I love his idea and support it you seriously are trying to change my reasons just because it seems wrong to you? To you? While I agree I cant even do anything about it rather than voicing my opinion that I support it.
I don't care what you guys say. This battle was epic when I fought it, and the cinematic preceding it is something I can't stop watching. The way these two characters change over the course of the game is too interesting. At the start, Vergil looks like the heroic one compared to Dante's self-centered attitude. By the end, the dynamics are reversed. And even better is that unlike in DMC3--which I willingly admit is still the best game in the series--Vergil's desire for power doesn't come across as strictly evil. He believes the best way for the world to be safe is under his rule. He's a believer in noble monarchy compared to Dante's belief in free will. Vergil even tells Dante not to be sorry for battling him. That's honestly why I don't get it when people say these characters are two-dimensional or uninteresting. Someone said that Vergil is just a douche bag in this one compared to older games, but I see far more respect coming from him here than I ever did in DMC3. And new Dante is just interesting because he becomes so "human" despite his status as a nephilim, which is something people complained about prior to the game's release. But hey, to each their own. :)
Nosher Khan Sure. Cause that doesn't describe Old Dante in any capacity whatsoever. Unless you've got a dictionary definition for "absolute shit-eating little bitch" that clearly includes new Dante and excludes old Dante, I think you're going to be hard-pressed to make an objective case here. Like I said, to each their own. If you don't like him, you don't like him. But I do. And frankly most of the differences between the two characters are cosmetic and minor.
I love the tension in this scene. The graphics and character expressions have NOT aged well, not even compared to the earlier anime-style DMC games, but this fight is the best part of the game because of how much gets across without the cast having to talk about it. Their anger has come to a breaking point, but you can see the hesitation as they slowly draw their weapons, contemplating whether they are *really* about to do this. As you beat up Vergil, he gets gradually more aggressive. Every time a cutscene interrupts the combat, it's silently showing the relationship between the brothers becoming more damaged... until Vergil goes full power, and Dante straight up stabs a sword through his heart. Then, the reminder of Dante's humanity - Kat - walks up to his devil trigger self and begs him to stop killing his brother. He realises what's happening, makes a decision about himself, and helps his brother... reflecting the times he would help Vergil up after a playfight as kids. When they were close. Vergil leaves. He's taken aback by the gesture, but is filled with anger and conflicted feelings. He makes a spiteful remark to Dante and buggers off. Of course, the dialogue before and after this scene is atrocious, but Ninja Theory are.... not good with dialogue, whatsoever, which is probably why their most famous games are light on it. You can tell Itsuno LOVED this fight. This game borrows and expands concepts from earlier DMCs, like giving the Yamato a Doppelganger power (a logical conclusion after Nero). It also has Vergil using it as a portal. While it was used to OPEN portals many times before, I don't think it was so blatantly used to walk from Point A to Point B. Both of these were then put into DMC5, as well as expansion on Vergil's childhood relationship with Dante, and making him more of a nerd (a full on GOTH). There are parts that this game borrowed from Bayonetta, too, which then were put into DMC5. The enemies all had title cards. The gameplay was fairly linear, thank god. DMC5 didn't have the insane levels of Bayo or DmC, but it learnt to be more dynamic. Maybe the game had more budget put into it as well.
Pretty sure I'm the only person here who liked this game and the old series and hopes this gets a sequel. This entire video was nuts and what solidified me as a fan of the reboot.
it was good. most people who complained about it never played it. it the usual chorus of retarded "gamers" who complain about everything that isn't what they expect. i mean, i'd rather play this game then dmc1 or 2. those were bad. bad acting, bad scrips, very linear gameplay. new dmc brought a very smooth combat, even if it was on the simple side.
I`m with Vergil on this one, mankind really does more harm than good, there`s a lot of greed and corruption a leader like him who has ultimate power yet is respectful is really a good idea. Vote Vergil for world ruler.
Even though he shot a pregnant woman in the stomach he does seem rational enough to lead, plus a sketchy place like that looks like it would turn to shit with no leader.
you ever thought mankind doesn't actually have bad inside of them? you ever thought that all wars are a mean for stronger forces to keep us humans controlled?
While there are a large amount of people with good hearts, there is also a large number of angry, blind sighted extremists that if given real power would cause serious problems. Go watch Angry, White and Proud if you want to see what I mean. Vergil`s intentions was to guide humanity to a new future without being spiked with drug infused drinks or blinded by right wing news broadcast. Dante had no plan to lead humanity out of the crisis and has no leadership skills whatsoever, Vergil in this scene shows he is a mature, level-headed leader that truly benefit humanity.
Am I the only one that saw nothing wrong with Vergil's cause? There always has to be a ruler..might as well be one that actually respects their subjects.
but still there's gotta be a ruler like a mayor of a town or city or president of a continent or territory idk i'm kinda disappointed that they change dante with this guy btw anyways muffin's right there has always been a ruler and vergil wanted to rule wats left of the world he wanted to protect the humans thats not so bad right?
TheCharles both came out in early 2013, and I only played them both this year during lockdown... I enjoyed both, MGR had stealth but DMC had more precise combat dynamics. both excellent games!
Man when Dante said "I don't even know who I am anymore" like damn... he just fought his brother and almost killed him because he was wrong and he even extends his hand to bring him to his feet after the fight... like damn dude deep stuff..
I love how Vergil's like "Um...duh." when he says "The path is clear for us to rule." that second time. He just took it as a given that Dante is just as power-hungry and misanthropic as he is, and he's caught completely flat-footed by his brother's refusal.
Yeah, you can tell he didn’t memorize his attack pattern. He just went for it. It took me a few tries. Mostly because of the part at the end because I didn’t think to use the devil trigger mode until I realized it was impossible to beat him if I didn’t strike him while his health regenerated.
@@JMetalGuitarist hahah s fcking true....for some reason i never even tried to use devil trigger in most of the boss fight(bcoz it fcking suck) so this take me longer to realize(i even tried to kill the clone)
Aahh this scene. You know, I liked the game part of this game, really. It was fun. And while being a big fan of original series (except DMC2, oh God no), I didn't have problems with the Visual redesign of the brothers. I mean, They both look alright. And in the final game, Dante looks MUCH better than he did in that old trailer that made everyone's piss boil. Its the story, the plot, and characters that make me... uncomfortable. And to anyone who is going to defend this game's story, please, sit down and let me tell you a story about Dante and Vergil: A long time ago I played DMC3 and back then it was the first game (of many more to come) that made me realise that video games CAN make drama and must be considered high art. The conflict between the two brothers is so nicely done. I mean, we have two half-demon brothers, but one of them rejects his devilish nature while accepting humanity, while another one despises his humanity and seeks more power to become a stronger demon. But why? Why was Vergil so mad with power? The way I see it, he was extremely traumatized by the death of their mother which he couldn't prevent, because he was a little weak human child. He couldn't save his mother and he couldn't protect his younger brother. And it is a big psychological issue. He became obsessed with becoming stronger for the sake of it, while his disgust and hate for weak humans grew. But wait, there's more: As we know from DMC4, Vergil had a family, a son by the events of DMC3 (don't even get me started on proofs for that. It is confirmed that Nero is Vergil's son in the artbook so shut up). And it is also tragic because after all, it shows that Dante was right all the along: Humans are stronger than demons because they can love and care for the loved ones. And despite all his hatred and disgust for humanity, Vergil did find a heart in his nature, a heart able to love. So now we truly know what was the reason for that obsession with power. He wanted to become strong so that what happened to his father, mother and brother would never happen again with his new family. "Foolishness Dante. Foolishness. Might controls everything - and without strength, you cannot protect anything". Who knows, maybe he wanted to obtain Sparda's strength to descent to hell and kill Mundus once and for all. Do what his father couldn't do when he instead just sealed him. And what, decades later, Dante finally did, ironically, with the help of Vergil. Which brings me to another problem: Why didn't Vergil tell Dante about it? Dante only tried to stop him because he believed that Vergil has gone mad and became a villain who wants to rule the world with power. None of this would have happened if Vergil told him his reasons. I believe hi didn't tell him because he didn't want to get Dante involved, just lure him in, take the amulet and continue on his own. There could be several reasons for it: His obsession with power and hatred towards any kind of weakness made him believe that asking Dante for help is a weakness. Maybe he didn't want Dante to know that he has a human wife and a 3\4 human child. I mean, that would be awkward to tell after all the time you said you hated humans. Or maybe, he didn't want to get Dante involved because he cares for Dante and didn't want to risk Dante's life as well as his own. In the end, after being defeated, he still doesn't do anything to change his principal position. He sees that Dante is stronger than he could ever be, so what's the point? So he casts himself down to the demon world, not allowing Dante to save him. And down there, broken, weak, defeated and without the powers he so much needed and desired, he still challenges Mundus as the last thing he could do... and fails. He dies and his soul becomes imprisoned in that black armor, forever becoming Mundus's slave-bodyguard as a mocking punishment for ever daring to challenge him. Until decades later, when he is freed by Dante. I believe that the moment Dante defeats Nero Angelo that 3rd time and he explodes in glowing blue flames, that was the moment teenage Nero got that demonic arm. The last shred of Vergil's soul longed for the thing he always cared the most and the thing he thought about last before dying - his son.
And what do we have in the reboot? A pathetic whiner, who never does anything by his own, only uses his brother to do things for him to "together" defeat Mundus. Developers desperately tried to make their Vergil cool by giving him that godawful fedora (and then taking it away in the re-release), turning him into V from "V for Vendetta" with Literally Guy Fox mask and rebellious group of followers, then they make him a cool hacker and computer geek by showing him tapping buttons very quickly. But it all was alright. They fucked his character big when they wrote that scene where he SHOOTS (Everyone knows Vergil despises guns as an unhonorable weapon) a HOSTAGE PREGNANT WOMAN IN THE BACK, KILLING HER BABY, TAKING PAUSE TO LET HER REALISE IT, AND THEN KILLS HER. And what next? Nothing. They added a scene in the definitive edition where he explains this to slightly upset Dante and they both just get over it. And then something really, really retarded happens. First Vergil basically pulls a bunch of tricks out of his ass and starts flinging summon swords and teleporting (would have really helped back when he was "cornered" behind that locked door with te computer and didn't help that girl). Its like developers made most of the game, only then finally played DMC3 for a bit and decided to include these things. As well as the ending. Remember what a big dramatic conflict did Dante and Vergil have in dmc3? Remember how dramatic their final battle was after all that build-up? Well, apparently the reboot makers decided to make one to, only they forgot to write any reasons or stakes for it. So Suddenly Vergil out of nowhere becomes an evil villain and you guessed it! Wants to rule the world! A plot twist as smooth and natural as a cactus being inserted in the main writer's rectum. What a pussy-whipped bitch Dante is in that game, and how he does everything Vergil says while not giving two fucks about humans and then suddenly decides to fight for them against evil Vergil is another story. Aaaaand then we get that DLC "Vergil's downfall" where we finally learn that... THAT... That Vergil is a bitch. A pathetic, whiny, weak, inept, cowardly, socially retarded mummy's boy, who had a grudge against mum cause he thought she loved Dante more; against that girl (who he never gave two fucks about and wanted her dead, I'll remind you), because she apparently liked Dante more and believed he is a better man; against Dante for being so cool and better that he is, and against himself for of being such a bitch. In the end, we see him turn in some laughable white-skinned red-eyed abomination and then he becomes so strong and cool (nice try ninja, by telling it you won't make it true), that apparently he becomes some kind of a new king of demons and leads his new army to the promised land of sequel that I hope to God never comes.
Pedro M. Thx, I'm pleased to hear that someone liked it :) It just really grinds my gears when people, while defending reboot's story, say that original series didn't have a good story either. Its like dark souls: you have a weak story on the surface and you must keep digging deeper to find the real plot. Allthough, admittedly, most of what i said about original Vergil can basically be considered my fan-fiction untill it is confirmed. Because, as much sence as it all makes when i put it like that, we dont really have much information about Vergil. I just got together those few facts we have from dmc, dmc3, dmc4 and two mangas, and figured the rest with my imagination. All we have left is to hope that Capcom will actually make proper dmc5 at some point and explore Vergil's character and story deeper in flashbacks or something.
Alex Thomson I hope so, Dmc was my childhood game and I loved it back on the old PS2. I pirated the reboot on pc and plugged it in my tv with a controller and finished it. It was meh. Vergil is a very interesting character and I would like to see more of him, everything you stated seems to make sense to most fans including myself.
@@kiboshita6411 this game was well received by the very same man who made all the original dmcs even some of the moves and techniques were taken from this game
we hate it because some of the devs were assholes and admitted they didn't care,they took everything about devil may cry and turned it on its head and the vergil fight has no weight to it because vergil was stated he was the weaker brother
@@Dabajaws I mean, to be fair, lot of that was done at Capcom's insistance. They wanted a radically different "western" take on Devil May Cry, and Ninja theory originally planned to make a game that hewed closer to the originals, but Capcom kept pushing for them to go more and more different.
I bought the Vergil dlc and man! Vergil was so much better than Dante. I felt like i was holding Vergil back while i was playing. He is limited only by your own personal reaction time and hand eye coordination.
@@CrystalKyddon't hate me for this but, it's actually quite not bad in lot of aspects The art direction, the visual (Like the colors they used for each worlds like Limbo and others) The soundtrack is pretty bop as well And the outfit that Dante and Vergil uses here is not bad either, it's pretty "modern-trendy" if you can say that but not just so stylish as the original. The gameplay obviously is really amazing too.
@@idontgiveashit7903 hear* turn up your headphones G. Its about how the sounds are choreographed and blends in with what is happening in the game whether it be an action, someones speech or the surroundings. Pay attention instead of hating for without logical reasoning brother
Florence MacKenna Huh? Someone who's mother language isn't english? Fuck their opinion. That filthy fuckers should learn their second language with utmost accuracy! Your kind is the shitties people for sure.
I like how Rebellion is more of a two handed sword similar to a bastard sword While Vergil's Yamato is a katana. Sparda had great taste in swords honestly.
Man, you might not feel confident about your gameplay but man did it synch well with the dramatic tension. I've seen people trash this boss but this is fun to watch all the way through.
One of the biggest complaints i had with the game was that the boss fights were too easy, especially in comparison to some of the enemy waves. In dmc3, the boss fights were almost perfect -- they were cool and yet challenging.
@@jloe01 i done this up to SoS, HaH will be busted but somone who beated dmc3. I dont think this game suck af, yet i don't like him that much, he way more eazy then the orignals, and, HaH is playing normal with one hit, so for somone who beated dmc 3(you HAVE to learn how to dodge there) it just wont be hard that much, this game DMD harder by what i think
this guy had to be playing on easy aka human. cause he hardly lost health. i played on hard aka nephilim, which a single hit took a huge chunk of health.
Say what you will about this game; But as a avid Devil May Cry fan, that has played the original games, I thoroughly enjoyed this game. Especially this boss fight against Vergil. The stand off between them while Empty by Combichrist plays in the background was just epic.
I'm kind of mad that this will never get a sequel, I hated it at first but I treated as a separate universe away from the main franchise, it would've been awesome to see this reboot go further than one game.
This Dante is crazy as fuck looooool i understand fighting Vergil into submission but trying to kill him over an idea he hasn't even acted on yet is a lil over the top
Mee too, but they needed a villain in case there was a sequel. Im pretty sure Vergill and Dante would have had a good ending if they have known the game wasnt going to continue
You don't suck. This was a great fight. I mean its great to be perfect at the battle, but being hit a few times here and there with little error made the fight have more value than it may seem. Why? Its because it felt like a movie sequence. It felt...real. Its good that you didn't make Virgil look like a wimp. You won the fight. Overcame the power and skill that your opponent used(and getting hit a few times gave it more of an emotional effect.) Overall it feels like Virgil had some virtue in the battle, but Dante's was greater.
I'm still coming back for this video after 10 years it published... Though the combo wasn't perfect, but I like how the battle pace is somehow matching with the music. Noticing how Vergil fights without wasted move and how Dante fights recklessly with excessive force, much like a noble swordman vs a street punk perfectly depicted how different life they live to grow up into the adults they are right now.
Ok i'm gonna explain why most people don't like this dante. It's because they took an iconic character and completely changed him, shit like that is not cool. It'd be like if they took super mario and made him into a macho american, you just don't fuck with established characters. But the main reason people are so passionate about it is because a lot of us played the first DMC when it first came out in 2001 I was 12 back then.
What always bugged me about this new Dante, is that they went and changed him to be "hip and cool" with the current generation, and Dante isn't the first, they kept doing this kind of stupid thing time and time again with every franchise Another thing that bugged is that some fans and maybe developers are trying to pin this with This DmC being the prequel to DMC3. I disagree with that fully. As far as I know DmC is an alternate universe with its own thing. The original Dante and Vergil were half demons, so they shouldn't pin this DmC as a prequel. I agree with you bluevenom50, I get franchises having storyline issues, but you don't change what doesn't really need to be changed. I'm also getting a bit tired of how they say "old dante" sucks when if it wasn't for that Dante, they wouldn't have this reboot (an average game imo) right now. Its like they are trashing the original series when most games except Devil May Cry 2 hit it off very well.
The biggest disappointment is that this game perfectly leads into Dante’s Awakening as we never got a reason for why the brothers had such an intense animosity towards each other. But then the developers decided to make this a stand alone alternate universe.
If theycmade this a prequel there will be many plotholes like how is Vergil unable to make clones in 3 and 4, what happened to Kat and why she isn't in the other games, why is Eva a redhead here and then becomes a blondie at the rest of the series, etc. Personally, this is better off as an alternate universe story or better yet should've been released with a different name instead of as a DMC game
Sometimes things doesn't need to be original to look great. All you have to do is show what can reach people's heart. Such as a good story instead of intense fight.
Best analogy. People don't realize how much Itsuno loved this take. So much to the point that he lifted a lot of elements from it for DMC5. I'd even go so far as to say that DMC5 Vergil is DmC Vergil 2.0.
