DMC5SE Vergil Judgement Cut Tutorial | 3-4 Judgment Cuts in a row 

Vergil's time as Nero Angero erased that from his memory.

@@FrostshadowStudios0310 nelo angelo* and how would you know this?

@@FrostshadowStudios0310 the way he says it you can tell he does but is acting like he doesn't

@@FrostshadowStudios0310 that wouldn’t be one of the things he erased, seeing as he didn’t say “jackpot” a single time as Nelo Angelo. Besides, the “world of V” move shows that he still summons familiars, which are his memories as Nelo Angelo.

@@jeremiahbriney4899 I'm going based on Japanese name. And I am saying according to what I saw in DMC 1.

Thanks but I just found that out today lol

yeah i played vergil trying to get his judgment nut to go off more than once but didnt know when to release, then i notice the flash so i released when the flash occured and then he started to go off more than once

it works better for me to simply memorize the timings by heart

Holy shit i never once saw Yamato appear

This is a problem when the camera is too wonk to actually see Vergill welll enoough

VWOOOM

Hnng Hnng Hnng Jackpot!

judgement nut

Yo he released early!? LET'S GET MOTIVATED

@@AntonioRedgrave I’m in asia but they didn’t release it exactly at 12am. Had to wake up at 8am and thankfully he’s available already.

Is it on Xbox one no I'm crying cuz I'm poor

@@fey751 the 5 dollar vergil DLC should be available everywhere now

Yorokobe shounen

And also how you optimize speedruns ;)

I dont know maybe just me, but I do some database coding and found that each time the player picks Vergil the game automatically switch to a difficulty called "Foolishness" I can't find the official change but it is like "Human" but 50% easier, lesser and mid demon die on 1-2 hits, Bossess hit by Judgement Cut loses their pride and die of shame, and a taunt alone make you reach SSS style instantly

@@AntonioRedgravethis was the best vid tutorial for this. Mastered in 3 minutes thx to u

The icon for Force Edge is Force edge and Yamato, which makes perfect sense considering his clean cut combo. Where he gets a little bit woohoo party time running around slashing with both swords like an asshole

@@Detective_Bonghits Agni + Rudra Style

Everyday i learn something New about this game

This is easy compare to dmc4

@@noel0p Pulling off the first JFJC is easy, but the other three? Maaaaan....

I just got it on pc and its just impossible to do three jc when using a mouse

You got this dude! Just keep at it and you'll eventually get it

Tell me about it. What is actually the sound cue for hitting them perfectly? Does the slashing sound have to finish? Because there is like a slashing and a "void"(lol) sound. Don't really know what to call it but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

Agreed.

Yep agreed

Its like a drug when I land perfect repeat judgement cuts I feel like Im taking a gigantic hit of crack.

No problem! He's so much fun and JCuts are so satisfying to pull off consecutively, especially when it melts bosses ;)

That absolutely helps! Plus it just looks cool lol

Do I hold it when that happens or press it because it isn't specified whether you hold it when it flashes to do multiple or hold it

@@dylanbroome7915 that’s when you release

I will next time for sure!

Was gonna ask the same thing! This was a good start. Thanks.

I managed to get it right sometimes. Only after a few failed attempts I got Vergil to say "Jack...pot.".

Best tip that worked for me, release the triangle or y and re-press/hold the button and release when you see the previous judgement cut about to end( when you see the black portal)

Jxa66's tip is a really good one, especially if you're not on turbo that's what i noticed, especially with the sound cue

@@jxalmada66 THANK YOOOUU I can do this move with ease now

It's just about conditioning and consistency with practice. You'll get to 3 and 4 I'm sure!

@@AntonioRedgrave Thank you for the encouragement!

No problem! I'm glad I was able to help! Now get out there and kill some demons! 😈

Same here

haha same, I learned using jump button to get the timing right, now it's impossible to learn the ground one

Thank you kind sir

Boss learn the hard way when player pull up SDT+Doppelganger and spams JC

4 times you are worthless

I did 4 in bloody palace but then I couldn't anymore

You got this!

@@IMGNFUN I learned as well how to do one just cut but doing two only happened twice

Think yourself as Vergil, Judgement Cut you doing is precise,accurate and perfection itself. There's a reason why the timing is needed. Anyways best of luck in mastering this sacred art lol

You got this! Just keep practicing 😄

GET MOTIVATED YOU GOT THIS!

try to make sure you're repressing the attack button as fast as you can

@@Virixas_ Yeah, I did 3 in a row some times, but still can't do it constantly

Any tips for keyboard and mouse?

So I have to press the attack again in a perfect frame or hold and release in a perfect frame

It can be kinda tricky at first but once you get use to it it comes out pretty consistently. I think I'm subconsciously using audio cues for my timings but when I really need to practice something I go to mission 2 or the void and get super close to look at it

A good jumping point, use that move where he slices the air and faces you afterwards. Back, forward, and triangle if you own a PS.

@@LegendaryDarkKnight602 i finally got the hang of it. The air jc is much easier to perform than on the ground

DMC4 had a timed just cut but it couldn't be chained, only once iirc

​@@OtepRalloma But, DMC 4 has many groundbreaking mechanics in the series, eg. the Inertia. Vergil can use the Inertia to make as like a real chain JC

@@zaqu837 Ooh I see, is there a tutorial for that (since I only learned chain cuts for dmc5)

@@OtepRalloma search for Vergil Tricks Cancel and Sequential Judgement Cuts by GarudaKK the video is about 7 years ago

Yeah its pretty hard for me too. I think how they handled it in dmc 3 was better because it just feels and flows better in combat if you ask me. Otherwise I only played vergil for 3 hours last night, so atleast they is a good learning curve for the judgement cut😅

@@Hafenadler Yeah I mean I've managed to hit it a few times but it's like, the timing if you start with an imperfect cut and do the second one is fair, the third one feels like it's completely random and I can't figure it out.

The timing on the third one is the same as the others. It just takes practice and consistency 🙂 you got this!

@@AntonioRedgrave I appreciate it, but it seems like when I do the second one after an imperfect, the timing is perfect, it seems like it gives you more time, but the 3rd and 4th seem to have weird timing where they're either faster than I'm going or slower I'm not entirely sure

@@NekoLilyK I think I know what you're talking about. The imperfect one is a tad slower than the perfect ones. I've noticed when I'm on the ground doing 4 in a row is a struggle for me because of the timing difference but I've done it more often in the air so I got it down. If you're struggling to do it on the ground I'd try doing it in the air first. Tbh on the ground it's faster and more consistent to do the perfect 3 because he has the step back if you miss, which REALLY screws up the timing

Yeah like high key they didn't need to increase the skill gap for that

@@kingswarthy idk I think it's kind of tight. But that's probably because I used to play fighting games a lot which have the exact opposite problem that plagues the whole genre for me right now, they are too easy when they used to be hard AF. So it's nice to see a game not on that bullshit, especially in another genre where I also like fucking dudes up with sick infinite combos.

I haven't done those in so long. I like the input for this more i think. It's also just so grossly overpowered with SDT and Doppleganger.

Simple to use, not unnecessarily hard for the sake of being hard and it has a very cool effect. My fav JC too.

I'll give you the same advice I gave another guy who was struggling and it seemed to work for him. Two things to preface here are that just frame timing is different from when you do a delayed JC at the start of the string the second is that the timing is also different in the air and this covers ground. I'm also assuming you're NOT on turbo If you do a delayed judgment cut where he backdashes the timing is about a half second longer since it takes longer for the cut to come out. Start holding melee as soon as you release it, it's approximately a half second hold, at the end of the the void effect. I time it to the sound of the slashes myselfnIt's close to last slash before the "shwing" at the end. Release melee again, press immediately, rinse repeat.

What I do to chain two is start with a delayed jc, and charge for a second right after I let go of the button. When he starts to sheathe the sword wait for a flash of light and if you time it right you chain the second.

i know im late...but its not about when you press and hold...its about when you release it

@@DC-gk4lswell, I gathered that much. However it honestly feels like the perfect release is somewhere between holding the button and pressing it. It's just so fast lol it feels like I'm not holding it at all.

I think the window is the same but the timing is different. It feels more comfortable in the air for some reason

I didn't know that. I'll have to try that later

Yeah same ive been trying to do it in the void for like 30 minutes now and i just can't do it, i remember in dmc 3 it was super easy to pull off 3 because you could just mash the button

Just start paying attention to individual animation frames and releasing it at diferent frames until you figure out the timing. Thats just a method I use when learning fighting game combos I just experiment with my timing based in animation frames. I figured out how to do repeat judgement cuts pretty quickly the timing isnt that tough or strict compared to say crazy combos in games like King of Fighters.

@@walmartian422 Well, i‘ll can do a perfect Judgement Cut after a normal one, but i can‘t chain perfect ones yet. Thanks for the advice!

It's so cool dude

The ground ones need to be done a little faster. This is also on PS5 with turbo, so the footage is faster than normal speed.

@@AntonioRedgrave Thanks. I'll definitely keep all that in mind while I keep practicing.

I also like having the controller vibrations on. I think that also helps me with timing certain things because when i turn it off on any game i play it doesn't feel the same

No. Ground timing you have to do a little faster.

Everybody finds there own shortcut to figuring out its timing. Some look for a specific image on screen, some ppl just KNOW the timing, I damn sure don’t 😂 but I caught it by feeling the vibrations in my controller so that was my niche. I’m not 100% perfect with it to do it whenever I want but I do it bout 70% of the time now and that enough to satisfy me. My pint is give the vibrations a try 🤷🏾‍♂️

Once you get it consistent you'll have no problems with it. You just gotta practice and find your groove with it

You let the button go right when the Yamato is about to charge and display arcs of electricity.

Make sure easy combos are off. I was confused for like 2 missions until I realized

I might make a follow up doing that, while also going into the void because that was an oversight on my part. To best explain the timing, I'd say go into mission 2 or go into the void where you can get a good look at Vergil's sword. Once you do the first judgment cut, hold it again and release it again once the sword goes back into the sheathe. I hope that helps!

Start on the ground and do a regular judgment cut, press and hold the button and ull see a light flash in the animation that wouldnt be there if u werent holding the button, that's when u need to RELEASE the button, this is the big thing, they come out on the release not ur press

@@strlRnn see i find it easier to do it in the air though. but i can never be consistent with it

@@vergil004 the timings in the air and ground are different

@@AntonioRedgrave i knew it!!!! ground is faster right??

i feel u bro

On Normal Speed, the timing feels like it SHOULD be faster than it actually is. So you have to restrain yourself a bit, which is unfortunate

You were playing Vergil, you always have motivation! In all seriousness, the air timing feels more comfortable and is easier to pull off imo. On the ground you have to hold and release at a different tempo.

ong bro that’s really how it be i was going crazy on 4

Glad I could help!

It's on sale right now for the holidays if you wanna pick it back up lol

No problem! Good luck and train to get motivated!

I am already motivated 👍

I can't do it on the ground but midair was pretty easy

I don't normally use doppleganger like that, but I can do some research and mess around to see what I can find for ya :)

Ground Cuts are faster than the Air cuts. I'd suggest going into the void or getting the camera closer and looking for the visual que on the ground when he sheathes the sword.

It's just a single summoned sword xD which would be a dumb name so they had to change it to Mirage Blade lmao

You do need to release it at the perfect time. if you charge it fully you'll get the regular JDC and not the perfect one, but once it's back in the sheathe you release it again and with the proper timing you'll get the JDC. If nothing happens, you were too early. If he steps back, you were too late

Glad I could help! It can be tricky especially since the game doesn't tell you lol

@@AntonioRedgrave And personally, i prefer doing the judgment cuts on the ground, so far i've been able to time them with and without devil trigger, but i find it hard to grasp the timing in the air for some reason.

I also pay attention to the movement of Vergil's arm during the cut, and so far it's been working wonders, considering the times i miss the timing are decreasing.

Good shit dude! 😂

I knew about the 5 cuts in the row but didn't want to make it more complicated lol plus I've never actually done that myself so I didn't want to give information without properly demonstrating it. I never tried doing the release of ME combo b without switching, I can give it a try

You can actually infinite judgement cut.

@@Marko2410O perhaps you can do 15 if you perfectly execute with trick up, trick down and all of them with the buffering, but I can't think of how we'd do it infinitely

You are able to do it infinitly if you do the buffer over and over again (I think) but I believe in order to do that it's a 1/120 frame perfect trick. Plus, the enemies die super fast to JCut no matter what difficulty it is so it's more of a void exclusive trick anyways

I never tried rising star because I don't like that move lol I don't have it equipped. I assume it's at the end of the animation. Plus, he puts his word away at the very end which timed correctly gets the perfect cut

I just tried it. The timing is SUPER LATE. It's almost not even worth it tbh

Good question. In my opinion, it's less about being "easy" and more about being "different". I've been using turbo from the beginning so I'm adjusted to that timing, but it would take me a minute to adjust to regular speed. It's like if I was playing a song with an instrument but now suddenly it's 20% slower. They way you do it here compared to 4SE is different, but you also have more you can do in 5 and it feels better

It's quite a struggle but once you get the timing down it'll be worth it

@@AntonioRedgrave thanks for the help btw

The ground cut timing is faster than the air cuts, so you'll have to release them earlier than you do in the air. As far as getting the first just cut on the ground, it's just experimentation to get the timing down. If you release it and something happens, you were too early. If he does a regular judgment cut, you were too late

You got this dude! It just takes practice but you'll get it

I might make an updated video with void inputs. Plus any tutorial video in the future I have that requires inputs I'll go into the void for it :)

Hold down R3. That'll fix your problem

That's basically what you're doing though. You just have to do it right after you release.

Yes and you can buy him for 5 bucks now

Void Slash? Funny enough i DON'T have that one

@@AntonioRedgrave That's it, it's the only one I've properly mastered. I did the triple cut once during VMD mode ( which was my second playthrough ) and haven't been able to do it since.