YES! I love acererak. He's been great, I've been playing and there's so many fun monoblack loops you can do with him; screw rooftop storm, omniscience, and aluren. You only need one color to make The Archlich good.
My favorite part of this game was where 2 players pulled out Gilded Drakes to represent them but the player who cast Gilded Drake didnt have Gretchen or Oppo Agent nearby
The copied spell still has into account that the evoke cost was paid: 706.10 (...)A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs.(...)
I had seen that Acererak loop a while back switched my Gisa deck into Acererak. Though, now I have to add Aetherflux since I completely forgot about it.
The copied spell still has into account that the evoke cost was paid: 706.10 (...)A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs.(...)
@@coinscoffee4770 This situation was clarified among other judges. The copied spell takes into account the original spell was cast for its Evoke cost, therefore, when the copied creature enters the battlefield it will also be sacrificed.
Yes the copy still has in account that the evoke cost was paid: 706.10 (...)A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs.(...)
So it's actually an important difference with Volo copying the spell, not the creature. If he just made a token on ETB it'd stick around, but since volo is copying it as a spell specifically it still knows how it was cast.
Am I missing something, but Adrix and Nev, Twincasters doesn't actually work with Volo? it might work if you have Doubling Season or Parallel Lives, of which neither are in the deck?
It does not work indeed, it was an oversight on Hélder's behalf. The common sense would think it does, but the trigger condition does not relate to Volo's token indeed. We will find a better card to substitute it in the decklist :)
The copied spell still has into account that the evoke cost was paid: 706.10 (...)A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs.(...)
@@LakeVermilionDreams it depends on what exactly is being copied - here you would have to sacrifice the token because it is the spell that is being copied (i.e. when it's still on the stack) rather than the permanent itself. If, on the other hand, you were playing Riku and evoked muldrifter, you wouldn't have to sacrifice the copy because Riku reads "[...] creature enters the battlefield under your control [...] create a token that's a copy of that creature." where you're directly copying the permanent and not the spell.
@@doodlequick right. So in this case, I've asked and was told incorrect information in the magic judge chat, but a second time confirmed the proper way it works
Is that legal? Jeskas will resolves then reveals reverberate, can you then cast the reveberate targeting jeskas will after it already resolved? I thought it already left the stack after you reveal some cards
@@heldersilva8756 Thanks, I did look the deckist but didn't notice the Finale and being someone the only play decks with Red I'm use to simic wincons :v
Basically, Blood Moon removes all the chapters from the land saga, which makes the final chapter number 0. Since it's at 0 (or more) lore counters, it's sacrificed immediately. 714.2d A Saga’s final chapter number is the greatest value among chapter abilities it has. If a Saga somehow has no chapter abilities, its final chapter number is 0. 714.4. If the number of lore counters on a Saga permanent is greater than or equal to its final chapter number, and it isn’t the source of a chapter ability that has triggered but not yet left the stack, that Saga’s controller sacrifices it. This state-based action doesn’t use the stack.
The Blood Moon makes it so the Lotus Vale is a Mountain as it enters, so he doesn't need to sacrifice anything. On the other hand it only taps for red! xD
800.4a. When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game and any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end. Then, if that player controlled any objects on the stack not represented by cards, those objects cease to exist. Then, if there are any objects still controlled by that player, those objects are exiled. This is not a state-based action. It happens as soon as the player leaves the game. If the player who left the game had priority at the time he or she left, priority passes to the next player in turn order who's still in the game. So Gretchen and opposition agent should've return but just get exile?
I mean david could have just used veil of summer to get hexproof from blue on all of his creatures and get protected, since overloaded cyclonic rift actually TARGETS every permanent. Is it a misplay or am i thinking wrong?
800.4a. When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐞𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐬 𝐰𝐡𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐠𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐥 𝐨𝐟 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐨𝐛𝐣𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐞𝐧𝐝. Then, if that player controlled any objects on the stack not represented by cards, those objects cease to exist. 𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐧, if there are any objects 𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫, 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘣𝘫𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘦𝘹𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘥. (...) There is a common misconception regarding this rule. When the player leaves the game, those actions are performed in the order they are written. And the control-changing-effects ending is one of the first things. What this means is that permanents that player controlled by any control-changing effect, like of the Gilded Drake, will have that effect end, in Layer 2, and therefore, returning to their LAST controller. In this case Baal and David. If they had some different controller along the way they would be returned to them, note that controller ≠ owner. The part of the rule that states objects should be exiled, is to refer to permanents that player gained control through effects such as Reanimate or Bribery. Because in this case, there is no control changing effect and the permanent was put into their control as the result of a spell or ability. We had an interesting scenario in Episode #21 Jumpstart video, with Inniaz, if you want to check it :)
@@Logic-cg7qy Not sure we follow what you mean. Gilded Drake is a one time thing. It enters, and if its trigger resolves the control changing effect takes place, regardless of what happens to the drake after that.
In layer 4, it becomes a Mountain. As part of that process, it loses all other land types and abilities. (305.7) That all happens in layer 4. While usually things only lose abilities in L6, there are some exceptions and this is one. As a consequence of this, if the land had any static abilities with continuous effects that would apply in layers 5+, those abilities won't do anything, because they were already removed in L4. So because Blood Moon would make Urza's Saga into a Mountain in layer 4 (removing the chapter abilities in layer 6; same as it does to all abilities of all nonbasic lands), it is now an Enchantment Land - Mountain Saga. Still being a Saga but one with no chapter abilities, though, means that no matter how many Lore counters are on it, it will be sacrificed the next time State Based Actions are checked due to CR 714.4. If Blood Moon comes down first then Urza's Saga is sacrificed, and if Urza's Saga comes down while Blood Moon is in play, it will still be sacrificed, all as a SBA due to having no chapter abilities. (Note that the rules might change between now and release.)” For reference: 714.4 If the number of lore counters on a Saga permanent is greater than or equal to its final chapter number, and it isn’t the source of a chapter ability that has triggered but not yet left the stack, that Saga’s controller sacrifices it. This state-based action doesn’t use the stack
Hélder had a great advantage by then, and resetting the board to everyone else could give him the game. He would have access to his Gilded Drake again and so on. Also, David knew that Leite intended to kill Hélder asap, so it was still a safe bet, just had to find fuel to get back into the game after that.
