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I watch your channel almost exclusively when it comes to detailing. I love the honesty, and the painstaking perfection esoteric achieves. Thanks for the great videos
I was hoping to get an answer on what to do if my ceramic coating has swirls and such. How would I remove the swirls to then re-apply? Would I just do another paint correction process treating the current ceramic coating like a clear-coat?
Wow, this is completely different to what other RU-vid detailers tell you and makes a lot of sense, if the ceramic coating has worn off, then what does polishing achieve.
Hi i started with spray ceramic coating, so if later i upgrade to bottle type coating, so i make sure no contamination on surface, then apply new coat?
Removing the spray coating from the vehicle may be a bit challenging depending on what it is. I'd try something like Rupes Reveal Strong. If that's not enough, you might need to do a quick or light machine polish. www.esotericcarcare.com/rupes-reveal-strong/
Hi @@Esotericdetail is that to say that if I applied an AIO polish that contains Si02 in the polish (Sonax Glaze OS 02-06) and I now want to apply Gyeon Mohs Evo, that I would need to machine polish again before applying the Mohs? Thanks for the help
@@ShineAndPreserveDetailing There's no way to guarantee compatibility until you test it. Try it out on a small area like the trunk lid to see if it works ok. If not, then you'll need to re-work it with a true polish. If so, then you're good to go!
I think I’ll pick up some Zipang coat. I’ve seen a lot of good videos on it. White Details uses it almost exclusively, and it always turns out amazing. I just picked up a 2019 Civic Type R, has 8 miles on it. It’s a good time to strip wash, and decontaminate. Yellow Rupes pad, Sonax perfect finish. Should be a gem 💎
Oh, I almost forgot. Have you seen how long the self healing properties work for, on the Zipang Coat? Are you giving Zipang the same 60% expectancy, or I guess we can call it, “half life”
@@g.dubyou6263 It hasn't been around long enough to really test the semi self-healing characteristics of Zipang. If I were a betting man, I'd say about 2 years on that if maintained properly.
This is interesting. Lots of people say you cant. I have 2 coats of uk 3.0 topped with SIC. I would like too reapply SIC in the fall too bump up the chemical resistance for winter. Any reason i couldnt do it as a yearly topper. And any reason this wouldnt make the base layers last basically indefinitely?
Big thx, very informative video. i always want to add top coat to preserv base coat, its like a neurosis 😅 But now i know i can simply put a new coating when its time with a hard wash and chimical decontamination. When my Halo gone bad, i will try Nanolex si3D max 👍
Really informative vid, thank you. What’s your opinion on changing ceramic coating brands once it’s already applied? Are they all equal or should I stick with same brand?
If you were to switch after just a few months, then you could possibly run into some compatibility issues, but if you've waited past the coating's effective life, then there shouldn't be an issue. Obviously if you're doing paint correction, then it doesn't matter at all.
Have taken a coat just few months back, but can see hydrophobic effect lost 80% in front bumper also a lot of swirls. Shall I put one coat again of similar or different ceramic brand??
Sorry my ignorance but so that I clearly understand you, if I have a coating on, if I feel the finishing can use a decontamination like Iron remover and nothing else from a finishing is wrong I can then apply another coat of ceramic coating on top of the first coat? I thought decontamination would affect the coating properties ....
In many cases, using an iron remover will restore the properties of a coating! So yes...use an iron remover on your existing coating, do a (Gyeon) Prep wipe, then re-coat.
What does it mean for an existing ceramic coating to reject a new ceramic coating? Is it a disaster if that happens? If for example you don't know how old a coating is, it's working semi-decently, but you still want to put something else on.
Can a coating last longer than it’s expected to? For example my car never sees rain or snow and is only driven on nice days, basically a weekend warrior.
Great and informative video! I've got a question though. I recently purchased a used car which has a 2-4 year old professional grade coating on it . The surface of the car has a lot of swirls smaller scratches which are visible in harsh direct sunlight. I want to polish the car to remove some of theese defects and portentially restore some gloss. Will i be able to get a good result, even if i dont remove the coating entirely? Is it possible to polish a coating? Or will it just leave more defects in the coated surface until all the coating is gone?
Recently I have had a ceramic coating on my car from a auto spa showroom. But the way they have done it is in very unprofessional way. It left bubbles,patches and marks all over the paint surface. Plz let me know how to remove it.
Great video! But I have a question. I am about to put Ethos on my mothers new car. I don’t live near her to be able to wash her car on a regular basis. She is in her 80’s, and doesn’t hand wash her car. She goes through (gasp) a car wash on a fairly regular basis. And no, it isn’t brushless. She gets the wax added on. I believe they do use a “ceramic” wax. How would this affect the life of the coating?
Chances are, they're using pretty harsh chemicals for that kind of wash, so it's going to have some kind of effect on it. Just a thought, but if that's how the car is going to be maintained, is it worth the coating? It's there simply to provide long-term good looks, and ease of maintenance. When we've had customers tell us that's how it will be maintained, we usually talk them out of doing it as they aren't really gaining anything at that point.
You've answered a nagging question I've had since I first considered doing a ceramic coating over two years ago. Thanks for that. But, just to clarify, I plan to do regular maintenance and will at some point reapply the ceramic coating. I understand I'll need to do a decontamination (iron) step. Is it a good idea to also clay the surface before I do a prep with IPA? Great video!
NEVER clay without machine polishing afterwards!!! If your paint still looks great after a few years, just do a solid wash, decon with Iron, and wipe-down with Prep and you'll be ready to re-apply a coating.
Started by washing, using a clay bar, re-washing and drying off. Put 2 applications of ceramic coating and it turned out beautifully. I keep it parked in the garage when not in use. The first time that I washed the car, it beaded up so much that none of the water was running off which created a major drying problem. Where did I go wrong?
Use a shower function or remove the spray head from your hose and most of the water will just fall off. Otherwise use 2 towels from drying: one for most of the water and the second (with quickdetailer) to make a beautiful streak free finish.
You might want to look at ISM Coat from Kamikaze for that application. And this video answers your question about matte finishes: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-43pKdTuUPuU.html
You're missing a critical step...polishing the car after doing the mechanical decontamination. After polishing, you would use some kind of product like Gyeon Prep or Rupes Reveal prior to coating.
What would you recommend for Plastic headlights with a bad batch (dry and crystallized) of Cerakote? Trying to remove it one week after it was applied.
I've never heard of that product, however first try machine polishing, and if that doesn't work, you'll need to resort to sanding followed by polishing.
I have a light ziebart coating on back tail lights and I am trying to vinyl cover tail lights(tinted) can I use alcohol to remove so vinyl adhere to tail lights. Brand new vehicle and don't really want to polish to remove coating . I am assuming Ziebart coating isn't that great🤦🏿♂️from what I am hearing . Any suggestions !!!
I have no idea what they're making theirs out of, so it's hard to say. You can try alcohol, and if that doesn't work, you'll most likely need an abrasive polish to strip it enough.
With the use of SiO2 Toppers, how do you accurately asses the effective life of the coating? Wouldn't these Toppers hide what's happening with the coating?
Great video, after applying two coats of carpro uk 3.0 ,paint developed two or three hazing spots after a month or so , not sure what went wrong because car was polished beforehand ,wiped down with ipa , topped off with two light coats of carpro reload two hours after applying the coating and cured for at least seven days in a summer, garaged, this would be my third vehicle where I used the same products but this one turned out to be really weird, not sure why it happened?
Must have had contamination or got a little water when buffing off. Look with good light when using IPA, sometimes there is still small film of polish left.
I have a client that has a vinyl wrap on it and a ceramic coating, what is some advice on preparing the car for putting on a new coat of ceramic coating?
If I accidentally wax my whole car with Meguires PlastX headlight restorer but then do a touch less car wash immediately after how bad will that damage the paint?
I have Gtechniq Ultra ceramic coating applied and results are not great. Several areas are rough like sandpaper. The detailer is certified and very experienced and has not had this happen before. It appears like the ceramic coating failed during the curing process. He had room temperature in his garage and humidity level was around 45. New car that he fully prepared and polished before applying coating. He has now polished the coating to remove rough areas and applied some Gtechniq EXO but results are still not smooth. Does the ceramic coating need to be fully removed and new ceramic coating applied?
Hi, I buy a car 5 years ago while 2 is in the garage, now I want to apply ISM but I don't know what Toyota (in Australia) put on my car Can I apply ISM on my car after cleaning? Thanks,
should or would a paint thickness gauge (good quality digital) read a thickness of an actual coating considering they can give a reading down to a tenth of a micron ?
Typically they're only measuring in whole micron readings. Given the incredible variance in thicknesses, it would be very challenging at best to determine thickness of a coating with any degree of accuracy. You'd literally need to do a large batch of measurements both before and after tor a comparison. And in the end, why would it matter what the thickness of a coating is?
@@Esotericdetail being a spraypainter ive lived with coating ie paint so just curious as would it lift depending on brands, a few people have applied a ceramic and the detailer suggested to be careful of the chards in the cloth (his ceramic) that will scratch if not disposed of so as a painter that description made me curious
@@markpritchard3099 I've never seen or heard of a coating lifting as it bonds to the surface. When applying, you do have to be careful of any coating "debris" that may have been caused by not cleaning off the bottle after use. The coating on the threads of the bottle can harden and cure, then become small pieces of glass that could scratch.
Hi @ESOTERIC is this to say that if I have Gyeon CanCoat on my vehicle, I can wash, decontaminate, and prep the surface and then apply Gyeon Pure or Mohs with no issues? Or is your guidance only referring to reapplying the same exact coating product that was used previously? Thanks!
It depends on how long it's been on there. If it's still pretty hydrophobic, then you might have some issues with bonding. If the water behavior is relatively flat, then proceed with your plan as outlined and you shouldn't have any issues.
No way to tell for sure until you try it. Perhaps just put Cancoat on one panel first and monitor it for a week. If it works, then do the entire car. If something doesn't seem right, then strip off the sealant before applying.
@@Esotericdetail I am thinking of applying hybrid ceramic wax on regular intervals instead of coating, as I done see advantage of coating if I can apply hybrid ceramic wax on regular intervals. What is your opinion?
@@gmaail... It just depends on how much effort you wish to put forth. A "ceramic wax" won't give the same level of protection, nor will it have as good of self-cleaning characteristics as a true coating.
@@howardyang1397 Don't try to use so many "ceramic" product. Just wash it with a pH neutral shampoo, and maintain it accordingly with your coating maintenance product of choice.
I clay bared an then applied two applications of a ceramic coating to my 2019 Blazer. After waiting two weeks, I hand washed the car and ended up extremely disappointed. After rinsing off the soap, the water beaded up so much that none of the water had run off, which made for an extensive drying off process. What in the world did I do wrong? Should I go to the extent of stripping the ceramic coating and go back to using a good wax? Thanks, Roy
Well, you should never, ever clay without machine polishing afterwards. But with coatings, water typically beads like crazy. Using a blower makes the drying process much easier because the water just falls right off!
Any chance for a 50ml bottle of ISM or Zipang Todd? Would like to try it on a few vehicles but it would be nice to have a bigger size for multiple applications.
50ml lends itself to more waste as we have tested here in the shop. A bottle of ISM should get you 3 applications, and a bottle of Zipang should be 2-3.
Is there a specific type of pad to remove the coating? Do I have to use a microfiber cutting pad? My vehicle is black and the coating is a year old. Looking to use a different product
I have purchased lake country microfiber polishing pads for the job as well as 3d aat cutting compound and 3d aat finishing polish. Would this be overkill? I know you’re a busy man, so I appreciate your time
@@jamesharris5244 I've never found any microfiber "polishing pads" to give the kind of a finish that a good foam polishing pad can. There's simply no need for a multi-step polishing process unless the car currently has a lot of swirls and deeper defects in it.
How do you REMOVE ceramic coatings? I'm a signpainter and these 'modern' coatings have eliminated the possibility or doing a 'simple' lettering job in the traditional signpainter's fashion. The lettering enamel tends to crawl and not hold an edge, even after thoroughly wiping down with a good wax & grease remover. Thanks.
What if you want a second layer of coating before winter, some says you can do that with the coating. But what if i have coated the car, and want to put a second layer of coating on it. But in that mean time i have used like a ceramic booster, can i put another ceramic coating on top of that ?
I’ve just had paint correction done in the last month. It’s not a daily and only done 150 miles max since the paint correction. Will I still need to get paint correction re done again before apply a ceramic coating or will I get away with iron out and decon wash???
We've had videos on that very subject. The short answer is no, it probably won't hurt the coating, but you go backwards in terms of protection. There's absolutely no need whatsoever to put anything on top of a coating besides a coating maintenance-specific product.
@@Esotericdetail I did it for additional gloss. I could be wrong, but I think I gained even more gloss and shine out of my paint. It's a Phantom Black Audi color, looked unreal with all that stuff on it.
i completely prepared my car for a ceramic coating and everything looked good after 2 weeks of backing but now when i go with wet towel over it to polish some spots out where dirt has suvived the car wash it leaves like a brighter spot on the paint? like i have removed the coating?? and if i spray water on it i can see that theres is literally no beeding and sheeting on that spot. I could wright letters on the hood and you could spray water on it and read it, what did go wrong? Beading and sheeting was okay but if i "polish" with a wet towel it leaves like mark or something came of with it. and it only happens while wet not when i use dry towels. what happend?
Hard to say exactly what went wrong with the application, but definitely sounds like there's an issue. You'd probably want to machine polish it for full removal, and then start from scratch.
@@Esotericdetail I think i found the solution. I clayed before with a carshampoo mix as lube and only went with a wet towel over it to remove the lube because i was to lazy to drive to a carwash again, you didnt see anything on the paint but i think a slight rest remained on it when i put the coat on. So when i dryed it off i removed the coat and leftover. I washed and coated it again and now its does what it should.
I have just applied my ceramic coating for the first time about 1 week ago ( i let it cure in 45C weather under the sun ) and noticed some high spots When using machine polish to remove the coating How aggressive do i have to go, well perfect finsh with a polishing pad do the job? + do i have to get rid of the pad after due to it being contaminated from the ceramic coating?
You won't know until you get into it how aggressive you need to get. Sometimes a simple one-step will work, and sometimes you'll need to go heavier. No need to get rid of pads afterwards...just clean them thoroughly.
hi, i have a question, i applied Geyon PPF coating like a month ago on my PPF wrapped car and i was thinking to go for a second layer, so can i straight away go are apply the coat or the have to do something before end.
Second layers are best done within a few hours. You may have difficulty with bonding if you tried to do it now. The only way to find out for sure is to try to apply on a smaller section and see how it goes.
@@Esotericdetailhi i have a question, its been 2 years now i have PPF applied on my car and on top of that i applied 2 layers of Geyon PPF coating, now i feel the hydrophobic properties have immensely diminished thus i want to get my car recoated, so my question is what to do? how do i remove the previous layer on a PPF car and install new layer? Is the procedure same for PPF coated car ?
do I really have to polish the paint before applying a ceramic coat? I have light swirls all around the car, but I don't want to spend extra on the removing the swirls and I don't mind the swirl looks.
Dezcanso I think Todd recommends pitching them. I did ask Mike Philips the same question last week he says he immediately throws them in water and washes them very soon after in the wash machine... said there is hardly any ceramic going into the microfiber towel to worry about..
Hi Todd I had my car ceramic coated roughly 2 weeks ago. The guy came out and did it do not do a decontamination iron remover did not do a clay and did not buff out any swirl marks out of paint wash it and a ceramic coating so now I have swirl marks under the ceramic odeon so how can I get rid of this new ceramic and redo it correctly.
Thanks for posting this. I am at around the 2 year mark with my Kamakazi and I have definitely noticed some degradation of the gloss and hydrophobic properties (Especially around the wheel wells, rocker pannels etc.) I have also noticed some small scratches swirls and marring, so time for a redo. What kind of polish do you recommend to remove/correct the Kamikaze ?
This is great advice. If the hydrophobic comes back, then you know it was clogged. If not, then congratulations on completing the first step to recoating!
Quick question. I’ve placed coatings on 2 of my cars which are both black. One car I placed Zipang that I purchased from you guys. Loved the results but I have noticed a few darker high spots. When applying on my black cars I’ve really had a hard time seeing where it’s been applied and how much product I’ve applied. Do you have ant tricks for applying to black cars more evenly?
Thanks for your purchase! Black cars are actually the easiest since high spots show up so well. Make sure you use a flashlight when indoors, and the best time to coat / inspect is on a cloudy day. Take it outside on a cloudy day after coating, and you'll immediately find your high spots!
Is it possible to get High spots from applying Gyeon q2M Cure? I usually apply this after I wash the car - and I can see one particular spot on my bonnet that hazed.... should Cure be applied to wet or dry panels?
Sir i apply since almost 48 hours ceramic coating on my new painted wheel. but i apply only 1 layer... is too late now to apply the 2nd layer ? on the instruction it say to apply not before 30min after the first cvoat.. but nothing not after X hours or X days. i dont want to mess with my 1st layer. the ceramic coating it say too like buff after 20 second apply ceramic, 24h to 72h before water contact and on the web sit it say is totaly cure or hard after 7 days. Hope you help me to not make an mess :)
Hey Todd can you explain a little bit about what happens to the older ceramic coating that is on the vehicle when you apply a new one without polishing the vehicle first? I know waxes or sealants will just erode away from chemicals and washing etc. but I am confused about ceramics
Similar to waxes in that they will start to erode from the finish, however with coatings, they just do it at a much slower pace. Coatings will typically lose their effectiveness long before it's actually gone from the surface.
ESOTERIC gotcha... hope not being too technical but can the older ceramic coat "shed" out thru the new glass coating or like you said it just "erodes" away? thanks Todd (always tryin to learn stuff and your videos are great, esp the quality) GO BUCKS!
Todd, I try to take good care of my car thats coated with Crystal Serum Ultra plus exo v4 but exo is meant to last 12 months...Ive had the car already coated for 12 months so its time to reapply... Every 3 months I used cosmic spritz so would I just decon the car and reapply exo
Hey Todd, I recently just got my car coated with ceramic. One thing I noticed is that the shop that did it left some spots of the paint unpolished (as in swirl marks in specific spots under the coating) Whats the path forward? Would it need to get repolished and reapplied with coating?
