Do I regret using the 7950X3D CPU in my rig? Let's talk about it! 

Yes

hes getting really good!

It was really pleasing

Dust in the wind, I was almost hoping for a Decimflex dust filters sponsoring at this point 😂

it's nice I liked it a lot

That was a weird way of putting BIOS updates.

But then there is also the point of not having to give a update on other procs…

LTT also had issues with their cpus which is why they didn't post their review

bro your telling a man that makes a living off of computers and videos how to do a job hes being doing for many many years .... plz get back in line

@@blakevoege2857 If you're talking to me, then I'm not sure what you're problem is. Jay literally said to leave a comment if you want to see an update later on. That's what I did.

Just curious what happened to yours? Mine crashed and refused to boot recently or go into bios. Had to use the flashback button and that worked thankfully and also found my booot drive was toast but idk what happened and still worried the mobo may have an issue. I also started getting that bad fan boot up noise this mobo is known for so I unplugged the fan on it. Not sure if I should incorporate something else to help with hear by the m.2 drives but I think it’s okay as is with the heat sinks. It sucks cause I love the mobo itself and the the aesthetics of it but making me worried especially now seeing this comment on a random video about something else lol

weird, for me with the x570 Aqua they just sent it back saying we don't see any issue. moving on. now I removed the plastic cover to solve some temp issue but wifi is crap. sad for a 800$ MB.

@@StellarNucleosynthesis I gave up on asus a few years ago and will never buy another motherboard from them. Overpriced and bad support.

Just "Carry on my Wayward Son" with your 2 cents worth.

Not actually that hard to play. your hand is rooted to a few basic chord shapes

The social media way is fast paste and "old" products don't attract as much traffic.

Here I am 8 years later with my good ol' 6700K. Comp has been on 24/7 for 8 years straight. Not a single issue with that thing. Was using a GTX 980ti until about a year ago, too. Also had zero issues the whole time. Not sure if I've been purely lucky or just spoiled with reliable parts. Haven't had a single part (other than fans) fail on me in the past decade.

@@RadicalDreamer9000 Exactly the same for me, but it's not about Intel or that hardware, I think that is about society overall, quantity over quality is the only option in a world based on money, so this is nothing more than a natural convergence toward less quality. Everything is less qualitative than 10 years ago, and if you go back 20-40 years the difference is even bigger: Cars, electronics, food, clothes, work accessories, chairs, even the shopping bags you use to bring home the crap you buy.

Where I work, people are promoted by how many kaizens they get implemented, including supervisors. Supervisors, of course, have a lot of pull in which kaizens get implemented. What this means is supervisors are required to make a certain number of changes if they want to advance and they're usually hack jobs that a year or two later are headaches for someone else to solve.

@teekanne15 depends on users, see old cpu's (i7 6700k) tested in 2021/2023 and get views either way

He would have gone with Intel looking back lol. Tried, tested, reliable! All that efficiency with zero reliability and STILL full of quirks, bugs, and caveats. RIP AMD. XD

90 days? This sounds like a TLC 'program'(?).

@@0AThijs there will be a lot of drama about visas and the marriage and with the parents who are skeptical about him marrying a much younger CPU

Since, he's unable to use Expo, a lot of performance is lost. The best decision would've been to get 13900k (as it can run xmp without issues). I also think the 7950X3D won't last much long. We already have several incidents where non-3D chips are degrading in 1 year.

Man thinks he's in an English class with that analysis

Homie is like "wow now I can really pretend like you're my friend right now, incredible A+"

@LawlieTuan 😭

Hello Jay, Full disclosure Video, from you like this is very refreshing. I love these at home videos where you are 100% comfortable and in your element (even more so than your shop) and it really comes through when you are solo. There’s something about getting personal and bringing the experience home with you to share to us all that, really, makes it feel like you’re inviting us all in for a real personal opinion from one enthusiast to another. The guitar was icing on the cake, man, But stuff like this just hits different, and it’s wholeheartedly appreciated. Watching your content feels more than my friend taking me on a journey sharing your experiences than anyone else, and for a man like myself with no friends my own age that are as passionate about tech and experiencing its glory, what you bring to the table is refreshing and inspiring. Keep it up my man, you rock Edit: for ButteredToast_93.

@@hadoukenocx4746 what is going on... I can't tell if any of these comments are serious or not

Yeh half a year is the sweet spot to get a good idea of long term performance/status.

What made you go for the 5700g when the 5600x is better

@@jaysgamingandbuildsc5533 Some places might still have the availability issues. Some areas (iirc either Brazil or Uruguay) have insane tax on foreign made electronics with a loophole of some sort for APU (import as part and not cpu since it does graphics) meaning much lower taxes. I would have taken 5700G over 5600X if it had had pcie 4.0 for one less graphics card and matx over atx and extra card for more screens. But as it is, 5600.

nice I do bit like that too also had a 6700k but with a rx480 just upgraded to a 5700x and 6700xt

@@jamegumb7298 the 5700g apu isnt a good gaming graphics card, yeah it can play some, but at the price point 5600x wins, more fps then the 5700g, I get the availability thing,

I personally believe that integrated graphics in the cpu is needed for trouble shooting in case your gpu has no picture out

Anthony, main decision and best one I made so far in my computer relationship history was to swap from intel to AMD I just can't explain how much better AMD is for me.

@@Obi1KB2 You must be a tinkerer

It's working in my build. Must be a motherboard issue

Who needs expo, Jay can overclock it himself with a little guidance by buildzoid (actually hardcore overclocking). Dont think he will make 4 sticks of ram work.

AMD Expo works perfectly on my Crosshair HERO with a 7950X at 6000. Perhaps Jay is setting it after his PBO curve settings, in which case he should do it the other way around, Expo first. I think this may be the case because he says he got -30 on all cores, and that shouldn't be possible on a 16 core CPU. He should only be able to get -15 all core at the most.

This might be a silly question, but could he not just use a XMP Kit & see if that works? There shouldn't be much of a Performance differents. Or im missing something ?

that's the thing with everything so revolutionary new that there isn't enough (or at all) support for it out there. take intel's gpus as an example. a year ago they sucked lots, and now they're on par with rtx 30s and amd's 6k series. and yet they still have "unexplored" teritories for all the new tech they introduced on hardware level in the chips themselves. same goes for Zen architecture in your case. codependency between different manufacturers is the "why". and all of it is because of trade secrets or in house development processes of such hardware. I bought a 5600G two months ago and it just works. it's snappy, it's got iGpu that runs Warzone at 50ish fps and yet my upgrade path is limited by a socket change for 7k series cpus. however I predict a long and happy future with it. 😊

My just replaced lenovo intel gaming pc lasted me 10 years of playing EVERY NEW GAME out no issues(even though in the last couple years ive had to drop settings down to low), leaving it running for ages straight etc. It just WORKED. So you can believe my new system is intel lol

I have 2 profiles in bios for that reason Min max oc aka tinker And just a really good stable oc for daily use

AMD has been falling flat on their face for 30 years. Yet every year everyone is surprised when AMD falls on their face.

@@auntiepha8343 That's not really true

@@big0bad0brad Yeah? Well for 30 years I have been hearing people complain about AMD and RAM issues. 30 years. I had one Athlon CPU in the 2000's. It had RAM issues and ran like a pig when it didn't have RAM issues. I never used another AMD CPU ever again. Where is your evidence to the contrary?

@@auntiepha8343 One word. “Ryzen” ever heard of it? Lol

@@auntiepha8343 If you're basing all your experience on one set of equipment, then I'll point at my Socket FM2 board that's been running with 32GB of DDR3 since 2012 nearly constantly and doesn't experience RAM issues. But anecdotes are honestly kind of a crappy way to go unless you've got a large enough sample set. Where I really have a problem with your "falling on their face" words is the part where AMD basically defined the 64 bit x86 architecture because Intel was too busy screwing with Itanium, plus it always seems that when Intel's ahead, they stop until AMD gets close to catching up. For that reason, even if you're an Intel fanboy you kinda have to root for AMD at some level or things will eventually stagnate.

A lot of chairs have height adjustable arms, that tends to work fairly well. At least with bass :D

I recently went from a 2700x to a 5600x in a x570 board and its been a huge difference

I went from a 2700x to a 5800x and the improvement has been bonkers... so I can only imagine the upgrade it would be to a 7000 series cpu... Good luck and enjoy your new system when you have it!!

Realspace Ampresso big & tall chair from Office Depot has folding up arms, and it is on sale for @259.99 right now..plus extra 30% off for rewards members.

Honestly? Just get an office chair. Gaming chairs kinda suck with the minor exception of SecretLab, but it’s still a gaming chair which means it still kinda sucks.

is a very good CPU for gaming, the 3D cache memory help a lot for gaming and now is very cheap, also the MB and memory you should go for it!

@@paulvancyber1979 Caveat: the Vcache design helps for *some* games (possibly most) but it does not help for *all* games, and the degree of gain varies even when it's non-zero. The nuance matters, given the cost difference vs. a much cheaper yet still very potent SKU such as the 5700X. Whether Vcache would help for CK3 the OP mentions I don't know, but either way, one should always try to locate test results for the specific game(s) in question before deciding, especially if the upgrade spans a CPU gen/arch leap aswell (otherwise one might attribute a performance gain to the Vcache when it may infact be due to an IPC gain, clock gain, arch improvement or even a RAM bump). People often update their cooler when switching platforms aswell, so that can be a factor too (modern CPU designs permit higher boosting if more thermal headroom is available). I can't tell how many of these issues apply to the OP, but nevertheless, one should be aware that gains from Vcache are not universal, it all depends on to what extent a game would have to keep leaping out of the standard 32MB cache on a non-X3D variant, and it's not a yes/no effect, it's a spectrum of gain from none, a little, to some, a fair bit, a decent amount, a lot, to a huge dergee for certain very specific titles. Check original reviews by GN, HUB, etc. for numerous examples. Colin, something you could try on your existing system is employing the likes of HWInfo and Afterburner to monitor main memory behaviour, plot a chart to measure how changing the RAM clock and timings affect performance. If you can establish that the games you play are not under normal circumstances inducing significant main memory traffic, then it's less likely an X3D part would provide a useful gain beyond any base arch/IPC change, eg. if your existing system is a 2700X, then you might see a similar gain from moving to a 5700X or 5800X instead of a 5800X3D. And of course display resolution & detail settings are another factor, the higher these are, the more the bottleneck tends to move over to the GPU instead (though again this isn't a universal effect).

Upgraded to the 5800x3d back in Nov last year. Night and day difference for games like CK, Factorio, and esp. X4.

it even runs on a lot of "budget" motherboards really well too, but some of the older chipsets (b450 etc) need BIOS updates

@@akaRAIJU I'd like to get one for benching purposes, but am waiting for prices to drop a little more first. I have a B450 Tomahawk Max II standing by.

Not as hard as many would have you believe is it? I have friends and family members that think you gotta be some kinda rocket scientist to build one lol and even me telling them it's not difficult it's all about matching your hardware for compatibility . Oh and btw you didn't go wrong with that 5800x3d I still have the 3900x and have been wondering how much performance I'm leaving behind since I have a 4090.

​​@@ThmsDouglas I absolutely love my 5800x3d, went with the new Corsair elite aio and temps are insanely cool. Running with dlss balanced on my 4k tv on call of duty over 200fps suprim x 4080. Absolutely love the set up. It took me maybe 6 hours to build before realizing a few days later that the bios needed to be updated lol

@@HowieMilguy40 It's always something but if that's the only issue you had you did good! My first I had memory issues and couldn't figure out for the life of me why it wouldn't start and it was so frustrating! So much so the next day I called a local repair guy and got a quote for him to fix it. I was hours from meeting him when on a whim I took out one stick of RAM and presto...turned on lol it's all a learning experience.

@@ThmsDouglas this was a huge learning experience for me but it was a fun one too

Are you using the same 7950X3D?

@@farsidesc4044 7950x3d, asus x670e-a, Msi gaming trio 4090, 980 pro, gskillz cl30 6000, 360aio.

@@Deanpierce88 Yeah, I'm running much of the same system, except I'm running the 7900X3D and CL30 RAM. I did need to update all my drivers before I was able to boot though.

Same here. I've been planning on a 7800X3D as well. The info about Asus mobos having issues worries me a lot, but I was planning on going with an ROG Strix B650E and not a Crosshair Hero one so hopefully the Strix ones are not having issues.

the 7800x3d is what im waiting for before i upgrade

which memory are u using????

Can you write your memory manufacturer? Hynix b?

Same here with taichi carrara and 7900x3d.I'm using teamforce delta AMD expo 6000 mtz with no issues myself.

I'm using Gskill Trident Z5 NEO RGB F5-6000J304G32GX2-TZ5NR 2x32 gig kit. From what I can tell they are Hynix M Die...

@@mattthayer thanks mate!

Yep, I remember that. He said everything was "instant".

@@Squidgy55 well he did quote that in the start of this video too.... but you would guess it is the same since he hasnt said otherwise..

it’s actually not, a lot of the time 6400 is still better than 6k

I looked into the Taichi motherboards last night and you really get a good bang for the buck!

Not a single gen platfrom. If you upgrade CPU you'll need bios/mobo support too

I was under the impression 6200-6400 MT/s was the current ceiling for AMD RAM stability. If I remember correctly, the Actually Hardcore Overclocking youtube channel covers this in his video "RANT: I HATE THE INTEL 13th GEN MEMORY CONTROLLER".

@cynicle but then are AMD motherboards that say they will run 6,6,000MT/s lying? Making fraudulent claims?

perfect time to jump to AMD, Would/may actually be on the 2nd gen 3XD chips for its AM5 platform @ ryzen 8000X3D (if they name it logicly), simply due to the fact they will have a chance to iron out most of the bugs, + DDR5 prices to hopefully settle, + early errors on DDR5 mem controllers may be fixed by then, (currently, no CPU does well 1:1 on anything above 6600, even raptor lake´s mem controller struggles). + mhz uplift seems to not matter much after the 6200-6600 range, + AMD 1st gen caps out on 6000 due to its infinity fabric/ 1:1 clockgen system. So to up the pref, getting a more stable DDR5 controller that can effektively run 4 sticks of mem at 8000+ stable, in a 1:1 sys/Fabric/gear mode would be optimal. Hopefully Ryzen 8000X3D has all that stuff sorted out. Imo unless your chasing 300+ fps at 1080p or stable max raytraced 4k 120+ fps on a 4090, you will never need the newest and greatest cpu´s for gaming anyhow. Only for some workloads they can benefit, most 10+ core chips are honorstly a waste for gaming imo.

@@smartgorilla then you're soft.

yeah I wish he was my Dad

@@smartgorilla cause hes old school. it comes from a good place. just have to remember hes not attacking you personally and its easier to get along

@@smartgorilla Okay. Just slandering a guy for no reason because you can't handle the way he talks. Glad wouldn't be the word.

Damn, y'all got someone to delete their comment already lmao? Good work, lads

Thank you, I'm buying that exact kit in 64GB for my 7950X3D because I can't run that at 5200mhz without OCCT errors

What made you go with a 7950x3d? It’s such a weird CPU. You have to cut its cores and threads in half in order to use its 3d v cache. It also performs worse than the regular 7950x in workstation tasks which is already slower than an i9 13900k. If you care about gaming the 7800x3d was the superior choice. If you carried about both gaming and workstation use the I9 13900k was the superior option.

Here's hoping, got the same MB and same ram/cpu coming. These RAM timing issues are pretty terrifying...

@@ZackSNetwork It was a hard choice but there were several reasons. I do both gaming and workstation stuff, so that ruled out the 7800x3d. I do expect to run 128GB of ram in the future, so you'd think that might push me to Intel, but neither system can clock the RAM very high at that capacity and the 3DvCache makes RAM speed far less important in gaming, which is where I would usually care about it. I would have went Intel if I could have got a DDR4 board (as it has better latency/speed at those capacities) that offered PCIe 5 M.2s but they never made any. The thing that really pushed me over the edge (aside from curiosity) was the heat. My room already gets toasty when I start gaming, I don't need any more heat than I have to get. So far I've been very impressed how much of an improvement I've seen over my 6850k in games that I thought were just badly programmed. I've never seen MWO run so fast. Also of note, I have only done a little testing, but I saw all 32 threads light up when playing Mount and Blade Banner Lord, when I maxed the amount of troops on the field. So it looks like if the game needs it, it is fully capable of flipping the other cores on.