Do Kids Need a Mom and a Dad? Queer vs Conservative Parents | Middle Ground 

She was literally CRYING and telling them that people gave her that insecurity of her loving family and Carmen STILL denied that anything they said was related to it. WTF!

That's "conservatives" for you. They will literally CONSERVE their own limited world view at all costs. Who cares what this other lifestyle or belief system is?!?

@@avivashalom They were literally sitting there telling her how she should feel, like how she was feeling was not valid. If SHE feels that she didn’t miss out on anything, there is no reason for them to tell her that she is. That makes absolutely no sense and you are just as bad as them if you think that’s okay.

@@avivashalom how tf you gone have a disagreement about how somebody feels? Not everything is debatable…💀

@@okuyiosa because her feelings doesn’t necessarily represent reality. Just because you feel a certain way about something doesn’t make it true.

He had a lot of wild takes tbh. He looks and talks like a young Charlie Kirk

He’s a bad person

Based

Must have been the guy I was arguing with in a comments section about abortion. Said the same thing

He is wrong 😢 he knows nothing

EXATAMENTE!!!!

As if it always leads that way. 🙄

@@sobeliever1638it does most of the time. Be real.

wrong. you’re projecting

A responsible parent understands the importance of not resorting to physical or verbal abuse towards their child. Effective communication is crucial, and setting clear expectations for behavior is key. While I may not know the person mentioned personally, I can share my perspective on how I approach discipline with my own daughter. I prefer using minimal force when disciplining my child, emphasizing the connection between disobedience and consequences. After administering discipline, I make it a point to explain that my actions stem from a desire for her to learn and be obedient, not to inflict harm. I stress the distinction between discipline and abuse, underscoring that any form of excessive force from others would be considered abusive. Open communication plays a vital role in helping children understand the difference between discipline and abuse. In our case, my child's involvement in karate has contributed to her comprehension of the consequences of using excessive physical force. I believe children are capable of understanding more than we might give them credit for, and my daughter, in particular, has shown remarkable intelligence from a young age. Despite attempts at non-physical disciplinary measures, there are instances where conventional methods prove ineffective. In such cases, introducing the possibility of a physical response, such as a spanking, is considered. However, it's essential to note that this is not the preferred approach, and alternative consequences are usually explored first. While my daughter occasionally displays indifference to timeouts or the removal of privileges, it doesn't necessarily lead to physical discipline. Instead, creative consequences may be employed, such as threatening to dispose of toys or presenting the option of a spanking as a last resort. The goal is to convey the seriousness of disobedience without resorting to physical measures whenever possible. In certain situations, such as when my daughter's safety is at risk or if she engages in physically harmful behavior, a measured response may involve resorting to spanking. For instance, playing in the road despite explicit instructions would warrant a more immediate and firm disciplinary action. It's crucial to adapt disciplinary approaches based on the unique needs and behaviors of each child. Striking a balance between firmness and understanding is essential to fostering a healthy parent-child relationship.

Sure I have a specific relationship with my mother but I gained nothing from having a father. He could've been any other male figure in my life. The last time I had a real deep conversation with him was him calling me on the phone telling me that mom was upset because I had LGBT content on my Facebook. He told me to take it off and when I refused he got angrier and angrier. I know he disapproved of my sexuality but we've yet to have an actual conversation in over a year about if he has changed simply because he doesn't reach out. A parent is supposed to be there for their child and he wasn't.

THANK YOU!!!

​@@nmikk10He put a roof over your head and you disrespected him.

​@nmikk10 that's exactly the point. Your dad was there but he was not a father. He clearly didn't do what he was supposed to

​@@macx3r0 then anyone can be a father lol

Conservative parenting at its finest. The draconian methods are unnecessary and a bit cruel.

I disagree cuz I watched the whole debate and never have I found a single person on this panel shaming her for not having a mother. All they said is that she lacks the bond between a mother and her which is not the negative thing.

@@leedarren7022 they made her cry. that’s enough for shaming in my books.

@@rw5763 I don't think the conservative parents were shaming her. Nobody in the panel says it was wrong for having two dads. In fact, she even admitted that nobody said her family is wrong in this room, but the world said it.

@@rw5763 y’all so soft it’s embarrassing atp it’s a argument which they don’t have to agree in they weren’t attacking her as a person

Same sex “parents” don’t teach “love” they teach sodomy. Those kids will never know the beauty of procreation from a mom and dad growing up under gays. A child without a mom is dysfunctional with other women and a child without a dad is dysfunctional with other men. People are lying to themselves children don’t become very insecure people because they don’t have a mom and or dad

@@petermj1098oh I’m sorry, but I thought children shouldn’t be learning about sex at a young age bc they are children. If procreation is so magnificent, then what is your opinion on those dastardly straight couples that have the audacity to adopt children they did procreate together?

@@ajakakakak Children eventually grow up. There is a difference between kids and teenagers. It is fine when teenagers eventually learn about sex from parents but it is not fine for kids to do so because it is too explicit for them to know at a young age. I am pretty sure some straight couples that adopt children do it cause they biologically can’t have children of their own. Just because straight couples can’t have biological children of their doesn’t mean procreation isn’t magnificent. And even if a straight couple that can have biological children adopts as long as the resources and time it is fine to give adopted children the father and mother they need in life.

@petermj1098 but it isn’t fine to give a child a loving home with two men or two women raising them? I had a shifty father who was always in my life, I would’ve much rather my mother married a very nice woman instead, that way I could’ve had two parents who gave me the love I deserve

@@ajakakakaklearn about love

Homeboy really said “I don’t believe science is a real thing, actually”

I mean he was clearly defensive but if you call the clearly agenda driven papers with massive corruption (how many researches got caught lying this year?) and unfathomable reproducability problems "science" then you are just as bigoted as that man's statement.

Ignorant af...

I need a complication of contestants breaking into sprints LOL

Made me mad, people like that do

Yeah same I have 2 dads like Elizabeth

Same... I like her. I'm rooting for her. So much ignorance... They sound like conservative echo chambers.

Fr, like mike was so bullheaded in such a diverse situation where other people would explain their experiences and still be brushed off by him. Elizabeth was explaining how her parents were the best that she could ask for and how she had trauma from people saying otherwise just because of their sexuality, and mike was just not listening and chose to stick his considerably inconsiderate ground, being disrespectful to Elizabeth and the argument itself.

It's kinda sad that people liking this have no idea which side you're referring to. Because I can definitely see either side's far leaning psychos saying this about the other. "Omg I had to sit and listen to a person with a different view's argument without me being able to yell over them and assert my dominance?!?! INSUFFERABLE!" Understanding and listening to a belief that isn't yours and understanding it is the literal peak of wisdom. And if you can't do that them you don't deserve a voice in the debate.

@@TheShockingShane was bouta say both groups got some crazy mf

Ik the queer side made no sense

@@bblizzy4141 why can’t ppl just have different views 🤦🏽‍♀️

I mean if the women in his household weren't behaving like they had value and they constantly ignored him and didn't show him love, he probably became resentful. I don't agree with him not seeing women as human beings. But 70% of people in prison come from single-mother households and like 70-80% of rapists come from single-mother households as well. It's not really that hard to believe that fatherlessness causes a ton of societal problems and messed up thinking.

MOST BLCK MALES, think like this. Look how they talk on their podcasts.

@@tatttoon that’s a huge generalization

^

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE SIDE EYEING THAT

Yeah, that was wild. Also, it conflates “equal” and the “same”

fr

My jaw DROPPED

maybe he meant to say treated equal, i hope his tongue slipped 💀

He pointed out race not color.

The two guys were just determined that they already knew the answers to the questions they were asking

A lot, she’s in denial. Do a research on infants without a mother.

@@zakariahashemi9317 nah, I’m alright thanks

@@zakariahashemi9317there’s a difference between no mother as in no parental figures or only one parent vs having two parents

I honestly thought that was the most ironic part of the video.

Something striking about conservatives is they don't tend to operate based on what's more logical but rather based on tradition, and sometimes religion.

@@ComedyGlor and then turn around and say "facts over feelings".

@@michaelregis1015 And when you give them facts & peer reviewed studies they go for anecdotes and what they "see." Absolutely ridiculous.

Exactly. Even the black guy (forgot his name) even said he doesn’t talk to his mom and his mom was basically non existent but wanna shame her for not having a mom?

Conservative people are unhinged.

Those same 3 conservatives: A mother innately the best caregiver.

They're speaking from experience.

​@@anthonyl9126 Still, it's ironic for them to say that when they're heterosexual parents were objectively worse in those ways than her homosexual parents.

I hate hate when lgbtq rainbow people bring up animals when talking about the natural way,were talking about humans ??this isn't a furry contest 😂how else a human supposed to be born without a male and mother figure

Ok so let’s break that down because at first i thought as you did. If you don’t set boundaries for your kids, such as sleep, nutrition,hygiene, mental health, autonomy, they will turn out mirroring other kids or adults they see because somebody has to teach them said boundaries in a society or they will become animalistic. My kid doesn’t like to wear jeans nor likes his locs cleaned up. If it were up to him he wouldn’t care about his appearance. It’s my job to educate him on his appearance because we don’t live in the woods, we live amongst people that will treat you how how you look. I allow validate him by saying ‘yeah adults are that petty but it’s the game you gotta play to get better results. We live in a world where you need people and money to survive. Just play the game “

@@salome9124yet that's not the point. Children are humans and deserve to have boundaries too

@@rainestorm6029 it’s funny you say that in a society where you are ruled over

@@salome9124 huh? How is that applicable to what I said?

You raise kids. Kids don’t raise parents…

Should tell their children that next time the kid shows a disdain towards their studies

I mean when you basically base your entire worldview on mother goose fairy tales then you get what you get

@@tysonvslewis12it isn’t mother goose fairy tales telling people men can become women though is it?

@@tysonvslewis12 What exactly are you calling "mother goose fairy tales"?

A christian isn't really one for facts

Often times those people have broken families themselves and they are jsut trying to project inorder for them to feel better about themselves.

The very same grown adults who have strained relationships with their OWN parents.

Deadass!

Say it louder for the people in the back💯🗣

Imagine all of that, but the people berating you for your parenting openly admit to hitting their young children, clearly models of perfect parenting

I DONT BELIEVE IN THE DATA

@@RaquelRavage lol

@@RaquelRavage we believe you fr fr

@@RaquelRavage EXACTLY data isn't real, only my opinion matters and everyone else including scientists are wrong!!!!!

U don’t need data to acknowledge the natural instincts of a biological female mom& dad and why there needs to be a balance of the two. Plus everyone kept talking over Austin; liberals need to learn to let ppl talk. Also There’s a reason why Austin asked if there was an agenda behind same sex marriage w/ families. It’s obviously a trendy social concept influenced by the government to control population through sterilization by first, stripping family values from American families. I mean have u not seen the data lately? We are heavily underpopulated and suddenly we are running out of resources and going thru massive inflation and shitty water. This is recipe for disaster and poverty. If no new generations are born after our downfall, America will be a lost country like Atlantis type beat.

Seriously! It’s rainbows in a child’s classroom, it’s not posters of men kissing.

I don't entirely judge him for this. I swear 20 years ago the conservative feedpipe wasn't so full of rage bait that someone would see something potentially related to equal rights and immediately assume some nefarious agenda is being pushed. This is the result of increasingly radical conservative media. I can't help but feel a bit of sympathy after watching several people go from "I like guns" to "the queers are trying to take over!". I fully feel that kind of transition makes them the victims of brainwashing. Imagine living with that kind of constant hatred and fear. I feel the hate creeping in myself these days and I absolutely don't want it.

fr

@ddairsaw literally!! rainbows can be simply a rainbow and be a symbol of queerness simultaneously

​@@lopezoliviajanefr 😭

Bro I was raised barely punished and when I was punished either it was grounded or spank I would come to learn not to do it again Austin is a great parent

And i agree to an extent using being black to discipline your child as an excuse is bull, but i feel like spanking your child isn’t a bad thing

@@johntorrez8172that’s just you.. some kids either get so used to the beating that they just go “oh what will mom/dad do? beat me again? i’m used to that so i will keep doing what i’m doing because i know the consequences” or just be traumatized for life lmao

FR

At least they don't raise criminals like modern day single mothers

Period!

a mother can never be a father, a father can never be a mother.

@@NTDS_GOG Name things that children that have had two parents of the same sex that “they’ve been missing out”. I’ll wait

@@itsnatemate7697 A life

@@ligmamalegrindsetinvestinr9251 thats shallow and just untrue

EXACTLY

I mean she is, but it’s also pot calling the kettle black

@@prodigy_riffraff2029 you mad mad lol I have seen you reply to every single comment 😩😩😩

@@a.jvalle8905 I mean that’s an over exaggeration, and if someone needs too get slated imma slate them

@@prodigy_riffraff2029 you are maddddddddddd omg who hurt you

He said he was raised by a single mother and that his father wasn't there, but then later says that he has a great relationship with his father and that growing up his mother never said a word to him... Is anyone else confused, like am I just a bad listener?

​@@brinnthehumanseriously im confused af with the conservative side. None of their stories are lining up. They're just saying whatever to create opposition with what the other side was saying

@@medcastrophilip544exactly.

@@The1Waiter-gk4sz they... literally said its sad she didnt have a mom and that she missed out

@@The1Waiter-gk4sz ?? You didnt have a bad childhood or terrible parents.. where did i say that? all i said is its not sad that she didn't have a mom and people shouldnt tell her it is- especially when she herself is saying its not sad

@@The1Waiter-gk4sz Vacations and resources are all material, quantifiable things that you can tell are missing from someones life. A "female role model" isnt. There are women all over society, women are represented in media, in schools, etc. Acting like she has some discernible material thing missing from her life is insane, especially because all those people also said "my parent(s) were there but they werent there for me". Like the presence or absence of a parent does not mean theres a presence or absence of love. My grandma had two parents and her dad was a complete monster, filth of the earth. Her childhood would have been infinitely better with only one parent.

I was literally waiting for an apology.

@@urangel21 christian apologizing!? they think only sky daddy can do that.

Elizabeth hit it on the head with that. It invalidates a majority of his opinions because it means he **refuses** to believe whatever he doesn't see with his own eyes.

Anti-science people are absolutely insufferable.

He also has a podcast where he regularly has neonazis and white supremecists as guests. I.e. Nick Fuentes, Gavin McInnes

i think he means that the majority of studies have a political bias

He should have started railing off statistics about lesbian couple abuse rates

That's your typical conservative mindset

Or when he said we are not all human, that’s he’s mixed and the other weird dude is black.

😅😮😅😅😅

@@trevormichael4906liberal or conservative, that’s the real question: can we trust the information we are given?

@@trevormichael4906 of course you can manipulate data and pick and choose statistics to come to your own conclusion, but the statement "studies don't matter" overall is just absurd.

I’m so glad you could protect yourself!

Exactly.

Yeah true, but wider not always wiser. Not necessarily this group, BUT other teens nowadays it's like they forget who raised them and WHAT A CHILDHOOD MEANS..WHAT BEING A KID MEANS RIP

​@@Kbinger06 Hate to break it to ya, but being older doesn't mean wiser either. Elizabeth straight asked one dude to prove what he was saying with stats, then provided her own and he said "I don't care about statistics". Doesn't sound very wise to me. I absolutely hate the notion that an older person is inherently more knowledgeable than a younger person

@@Kbinger06children who are actively being raised and are experiencing the effects of different parenting styles are undeniably the most educated on the consequences of those beliefs. In this case wider, does in fact, equal wiser.

Hey nice profile picture

I mean, they where rite, she did miss out on having a mother, she just doesn’t know, because she didn’t have a mother.

It made me let out a little chuckle 😂 what is his beef with rocks, clouds and tectonic plates lol

The volcanoes must've really upset him LMFAO

Lmaoo like who hurt you about earth science 😭

He is an hypocrit: he's homophobic and just by looking at him you can tell that he's in the closet! No comments about science: these flat earthers have computers or cellphones, they know that there are satellites and the think that the Earth is flat?! Besides being ignorant (because it's been known for more than 2 millennia that the Earth is round!) it's being arrogant, pretending to know more that those who study that stuff!

Lmmfaaooooo 😂😂😂

Its what liberals do. The conservatives spoke nothing but the truth.

@@gamingbear7316bruh

no, this wasn’t that sort of situation. those were genuine tears… that woman was genuinely broken by those comments.

@@gamingbear7316you’re so weird

@@gamingbear7316true according to who? she said she didn’t feel like she missed anything and the men just told her that she is wrong because THEY say so. It’s the very definition of a refusal to accept other people’s differences because a religious worldview canny compute with different realities.

1:10:41 this was just absolutely adorable and precious, one of the most wholesome things I’ve seem today haha, shes like ‘YEAH MY DADS LOVE ME >:D ‘

Why

@@silentghost751 why wouldn't they be?

@@raynerays why would they be? One’s not even her actual parent

@@silentghost751 so what 💀 don't understand how u think they wouldn't be

Austin is so closed minded and uneducated in a lot of different ways.

I mean she still did

@@prodigy_riffraff2029 on what tho

@@prodigy_riffraff2029 Austin missed out on what experiencing what “love” and “acceptance” is, Elizabeth never missed out on those. That’s why he thinks spanking his kids are okay when there are better ways to handle situations.

@@rexstylus I appreciate the useless reply 👍😂, just because he missed out on stuff doesn’t mean she didn’t miss out as well

No, I think they are hiding something, especially the queer side, but they are not telling the truth. So something is definitely strange in them.

And also I disagree, some point on the queer what they have said it.

But all other things being equal, it's best to have a father and mother.

@@silverspork86 If all other things are equal, the gender of the parent(s) doesnt matter.

Exactly!! People act like the roles parents need to fill are exclusive to sex, its crazy to me! It's just downright sexism and homophobia at the same time.

⁠@@virgobutcayedoesn’t mean you’re sexist or homophobic to believe that if all things being equal it is more beneficial to be raised by your biological dad and mum. It’s just an opinion. 95% of the world believe this. People from different cultures and countries all agree on this point. America is trying way to hard to be different to the rest of the world.

they aren't arguing that its beneficial to be raised by your bio parents, theyre arguing that gay people shouldnt have kids in the first place (even if those kids are theirs!!!)@@bizarresportynerd6136

The Queers made it that way especially Raw sex or whatever her name is she was hype for nothin

No me too I was getting so heated watching this 😭

This video made me soooo angry I can’t explain. So horrible. So inconsiderate. Blatantly ignoring the existence of the whole community. Love can’t be measured. How dare they tell anyone who’s so proud of her fathers, what she had missed in her life. Fuminggg

​@@jalebi_baby8facts vs your emotions. What's more important?

@@godsrevolver9737what are you even talking about?!

She thinks she isn't screwed up and others with fathers and mothers are.

@@thenamelessjeffrey6472 Not at all what she said.

And they have the audacity to talk about 'indoctrination'...

​@thenamelessjeffrey6472 She didn't say that, at all.

@@billyboops56 But she did allude to that. She said that the most messed up people she knows come from a household with a mother and father. And all the same sex 2 parent households she knows everyone is fine.

PREACH

I always say this exact same thing, all of it

Same!!!

So the rainbow people don't discipline their children either? Wow that's some real soft💩 but everyone wants to control their kids your standards are just different there's always going to be something that if a parent seen their kid doing they would intervene and stop some people it stops at homo others it stops somewhere else

Blind acceptance isn’t love

@@silentghost751yes it is. Unconditional love is literally the number one priority of a parent since birth, it is basically one of the few rules of parenting.

yes it is learn a little bit bro its 2023@@silentghost751

​@Siksuki Unconditional love isn't a real thing. Even if you think you love something unconditionally, you don't. Why do you love this kid, specially? Because it's yours. Whether it be yours through birth, adoption, or even just knowing them. There are always conditions.

Ur crazy, no other contestant broke down other than her, that demonstrated how she was incompetent compared to the others. Just because u are liberal doesn’t mean you have to be illogical.

@@queblue7153 thank you for my daily dose of "liberals are ignorant and sensitive, hur dur", really appreciated it

@@KaylaTheKindOne no but can you actually sit here and tell me I’m wrong. She repeatedly said how she was unaffected by not having a mother, but yet was the only one unable to control herself?

@@queblue7153 she's unaffected by not having a mother, but she is affected by people who refuse to believe that she's unaffected. you think that someone who's telling their personal truth should just...cope when they're not believed?

⁠@@queblue7153 and why did she brake down? Bc of what the other people were telling her🙄 the same stuff she’s been told her whole life that she’s missing something that she’s incomplete bc she didn’t have a mom. What aren’t u getting?

They hate themselves and take it out on their children

I think their operating on a VERY different definition of love

that's very sweet.. sometimes I wish my cousins were closer to me.. same with my uncles, relatives, etc. but in the future IF my sibling has a child, hope my niece/nephew can feel open and comfortable with me.

amen

She cried for attention no one even belittled her

Mother And Father > 2 same sex parents ez

@@yasminmorandini8443 what does she gain from that?

Yeah so much respect for her, it's ridiculous that the people who are okay with spanking their own kids think they know better than her if her childhood was a happy one.

its the dehumanising of queer people - it needs to be discussed more fr

Yeah, it's quite strange considering a lot of conservatives are also Christians, and they push tons of biblical agendas on their children.

honestly … grab all your hot takes and apply them to a straight heteronormative couple … suddenly they disperse

That’s literally recruiting. They are recruiting in our faces and you’re worried about their feelings of validation? 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

@@awwhellnaw8214 No one's recruiting. You can't make anybody be gay just like you can't make anybody be straight.

Exactly

@@emma-lv7hn and there would also be no adoption center no unwanted kids

There would be a lot less Oops kids!!

@@wendyfrederick5965 for real lol

True, it helps u to not be coerced and manipulated by people in future especially since u are on the spectrum, some people know how to use their wits to get in the heads of people to take advantage of them in many ways

That part really bugged me

If your child doesn’t understand to not mess with the stove or get close to something dangerous for example after being told multiple times bc they don’t know the consequences. Then yeah I rather give a quick spank to let them kno if you get close to them this will happen.

​@@couponingwithnikita9374nah let your kid get burned or break and arm if they aren't listening. Not Julia is so intelligent and has spoken. Please trust her!

@@couponingwithnikita9374 so… physically injure your child to prevent them from being physically injured… got it.

@@couponingwithnikita9374 see this makes 0 sense. Let the child experience the burn from the stove if it gets to the point where they don't listen. They will LEARN that it hurts. No need to hurt a child so they don't get hurt?

👍👍👍

So you want children to be taught to consent. OK groomer.

Last one is questionable is it related to the topic

Exactly. The recent pushback from conservatives against sex Ed is so so concerning.

@@ravichandrakumarchouturi5571 consent is very much necessary as part of sex ed. Sex without consent is rape. Without conversation about consent, this is where we get cases of marital rape where people think their marriage partner is obligated to have sex with them, when they want. Consent is very much necessary.

Same story here, I'm 41 and I'm still dealing with my c-ptsd from childhood. As long as both parents no matter what gender just love their kid and can show what love is and how to respect other people then everything will be fine. These conservative/religious people in this video are so extremely closed minded. Luckily here in the EU we are way ahead of the U.S. of accepting other people for who they are. I can't imagine living in the U.S. these days.

@@Yinyara SAME it’s so funny you said that because I’m in Europe too (in the UK)!

Ignorance and non-understanding creates this mindset. Kudos for the queer parents to even do this debate. I wouldn't be able to 😅

I think they said guidance..

I'll answer it for you then They're missing the love of a Mother that's what

@@macias7125 Not every mother has love for their kids. I know *plenty.*

@@schwann145 then why get married?

Pretty sure he was just explaining how a parents job is to guide their children through life and teach them things that will make life easier

They are different things.

@@KarlSnarks Aldo, I see your point. Austin and Carmen weren't bad though.

@@KarlSnarks you're fully standing behind glass while in a battlefield. I haven't watched the whole video yet, but why do people make a claim and don't even give any observations or factual evidence to back it up.

That's not what he said at all...the context was missing out on having a mother (an ideal mom not a bad mom)

He didn't say that lol.

@@alonsoarellano8324 he didn’t say that exactly, but because he argued with her, the implication is there!

Imagine having to change what somebody said to make your point.

@@oliviadurand2429 you cant say the implication was there, he literally did not say that. If he believed it, he would say it.

Every child needs a mom and a dad. Not to same-sex parents. Regardless hope you feel into this submission of delusion, even the gays and lesbians need a mom and a dad he majority of them had a mom and dad

They'll only realise it isn't normal when they compare it to others who are "normal"

SAY IT LOUDER 👏👏👏

Same with their friends and neighbours. Kids who know gay families really don’t care that they’re gay.

@@bishbosh4815 yes! and the child that grew up with their normal is not at fault for what other people push to them and make them feel bad for it

But they are human and will see and feel the importance of having both sexes as parents inherently. That’s totally natural. That’s how humans are made to be

as someone who grew up in violence, and used violence and later found out violence is NOT the answer. i agree. because now i have lifelong trauma and lifelong guilt.

Cause he and the other conservative parents are complete morons. They contradict themselves multiple times in the entire video. I feel bad for their families

Explains a lot

exactlyy, and honestly when he was first talking about the example he gave for why he would spank his daughter and how he tells her what not to do first, then if she does it anyway he spanks her and THEN talks about it, I was like that... doesn't make sense. First of all children need repetition and redirection. And they have no impulse control. So instead of spanking and then talking about it, maybe talk to her about why it's unsafe and then redirect her to something she CAN climb so she isn't climbing the thing that's not safe for her to. Cause if you tell her once then walk away and she does it again, spanking is not the fix all. If anything you're instilling fear, not understanding.

I know how doesn't he see how messed up it sounds

​@@Juniper122w1qw1qawqa1awq😅😊😊

Studies mean something but it’s foolish to believe that studies aren’t frequently manipulated to paint a narrative

@endthelogin But that's not what Mike said. If studies don't mean anything, then what are we basing our arguments on?

Oh please, it's not like scientific studies disproving the importance of a mother and father in a child's development outweigh those that support it. There's research on both sides, and you can't just erase what is biological and natural and has been the tried and tested family structure for all of human history

@@endthelogin But then you have no source to support your information or perspective except anecdotes. All anecdotes can and probably have been conflicted with the second multiple people in the room with different perspectives exist.

@@bishbosh4815 The thing is....Noone is erasing heterosexuality households. They will exist and continue to exist for all eternity so why is the minority of households now shunned and disapproved due to they're slightly different, non-harmful functionalities.

But you did care in the end because you told her you wouldn't take it anymore. Why did you make a massive deal instead of just putting up with it?

that’s bc that’s abuse what you experienced. i’ve been spanked multiple times for my safety bc i was a bad child frl and for me PERSONALLY it was the only way for me to listen and stop. and even then they didn’t spank me EVERYTIME i did something bad, it was when the dangerous behaviour continued and my life could’ve been at risk. But i’ve also never been slapped before and i feel like that’s even more disrespectful than a spanking. i would never let anyone slap me.

@@multijxde1855 I, in no way, was abused. Yes it was a bad method and ineffective but I would not label it abuse, just bad parenting. In general I think hitting your child does not help a situation and should not be done. THAT BEING SAID honestly, if your child is putting themselves into a life threatening or very dangerous situation and they simply won’t listen, I agree with you in that in extreme situations sometimes you just need to use whatever is available to help someone or get their attention, which might be violence. Everything in this world is morally grey. So thank you for your perspective :)

@@alimoon2575 let me clarify, I did care that they were hitting me, I did not care enough for it to stop what I was doing. I simply got angry at them when they spanked me. I did not reflect on my actions and I did not change the behavior they were trying to punish. The only behavior I changed due to spanking was my behavior towards them. So yes, I could have put up with it, but why should I have to when it’s not helping anyone?

@@americayaaaaa I think hitting and spanking are the same thing. I'm glad you agree that it's an ineffective form of punishment because it doesn't actually show you why the behavior needs to be changed. It either instills fear or you just get desensitized. I thought you were saying it doesn't have a negative impact, like spanking is just a neutral thing and it confused me

I lived rainbows as a kid and would draw them all the time. As an adult, I'm more hesitant with rainbows because people are so judgemental or automatically think you're part of the LGBTQ community because you wear rainbows. I also would hate to offend someone of the LGBTQ community and "appropriate" their representation when I'm personally not in the community. I just feel in a weird limbo as an adult.

50 rainbows though??? 50 rainbows! That doesn't sound weird to you? 😶

@@HouseMDaddict im queer and have 0 problem with straight people wearing rainbows, i think most queer ppl feel the same. i appreciate you trying to do what feels most respectful though. it means a lot

Such an excuse. Put up every color then if they like colors. But no it has to be rainbows.

Lol no one in the lgbtq community is going to feel “appropriated” if you wear rainbow clothing. We don’t own colors

I don’t think Austin knows the difference between fear and respect. Kids can respect you without being scared of you.

@minisdunyas9884 Exactly. To this day, although I’m almost 30, I fear my parents, but I do not respect them. If anything I feel sad for them. They have a lot of generational trauma they have never addressed. It doesn’t excuse their actions but it does bring me peace to realize they are victims themselves of the abuse they perpetrated.

Wow it’s not that deep. The fear probably only lasted a few seconds and the kids went back to playing. It was probably the smallest interaction and not a big deal out of their day just a quick redirection

u miss the point

Exactly, he talkin bout how his kids respect him, as if he didnt just tell the world they only listen to him once he threatens to hit them, pathetic

Lmao factss

ugh I know!!

Rare for a Liberal to complain about someone not validating studies

went straight to the comments after he said that lol people like him should not be allowed to reproduce

poor little girls that are getting spanked by their father

Wish I grew up with my dad over my mother. Honestly I’d be better off

I think that's mostly based on the fact that women literally nurture their children by virtue of being mothers. My children literally lived inside of me for 9 months, and then I continued to feed them with my body for months afterwards. That is the most nurturing thing you can do. Also I don't believe the consensus is that men can't be nurturing, that's the whole point of being a parent after all, but women on average tend to be more sensitive, agreeable, conscientious, etc., which translates to being more stereotypically nurturing ON AVERAGE compared to men who, on average, are more assertive, tolerant to risk, discerning, etc., which does not translate as stereotypically nurturing. There's always exceptions to the rule, but if you were to pick out a random mother and father out of the entire world's population, you could bet money that the former will exhibit typically feminine/maternal traits and the latter will exhibit typically masculine/paternal traits. This is why it's rarely helpful to look at individual experiences through the lens of group truths. Like BMI, on a population level it's an accurate and useful measure of health, but not so much for the individual.

You put this into words so well, I was gonna comment something along the same lines.

Yeah I agree for sure

feminine doesn't have to mean that the mother is nurturing and the father is not. I think their point is that a mother just by being present will give a nurturing feeling to her child because it is biological and also mothers tend to be more nurturing in general.

You know Unicorns have an agenda 😂😂😂😂

I don’t think it’s homophobia. There’s just a different love/experience/security with a mother and father.

@@couponingwithnikita9374 saying that a child would be "lacking" in some sort of experience by having single sex parents (despite the subject to the parenting - the child - telling you that this is false) implies that mothers & fathers have some inherent, biological traits that differentiate their parenting styles. Which is the basis to all misogynistic and homophobic thinking. It all derives back to ignorance and prejudice. There is nothing a father can do for a child that a mother can't, vice versa.

@@reecye it’s not homophobic thinking. Never said they shouldn’t adopt. All I said was It’s not the same as being raised with a mom and a dad. The gay dad just said he has to ask other women to speak to her about her period. What about when she gets pregnant? She can’t even ask her dads for tips. Also unless she has a girly gay dad, she won’t experience certain things that women like to do. Yeah she can do them w her dad but it’s not the same experience. Women are nurtures

Doesn't matter how you feel, mothers and fathers are fundamental in the upbringing of a child. There is no other bond that can fill that void. You're delusional if you think otherwise

@@L2-L2 So, what do you say to the people who were raised in same-sex households that are currently thriving in nearly every category, far more than most straight-couples children? Do they simply not exist?

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

Also the are acting like being gay is a choice. Ultimately 5% of couples being same sex won't affect overall reproduction. Moreover, gay couples are increasingly using IVF to have their own kids so basically they are continuing their bloodline.

I remember once seeing a homophobic religious video on this site that implied it’s better for children to be stuck in an adoption center than adopted by a gay couple.

@@sapphicwriter they shouldn’t even be around children if they want them to be stuck in a adoption home ! Let me say something they do not care about children, they wanna take women’s rights away from their bodies and say “oh put them in a home for a few years they will be fine” there is no care with any of these people

@@sapphicwriter sorry if ur pro life I don’t know what your stance is on the subject all I know is, they would rather see children suffer in a adoption home then be with a loving gay couple who could give them love and a nice supportive home

I feel like the books they were talking about, were for young adults. But, I don't really know.

Austin seems like an AWFUL parent.

What’s wrong with fear? As long as he doesn’t hit her. I feel little kids need a little fear because they are so not chill. Obviously as they grow the fear factor should reduce and the respect factor increase

@@kikidoyaluvmexixi4297 "What's wrong with fear?" Trolls are getting weak these days 💀

I agree with you, I was shocked too I’m not going to lie.

@@kikidoyaluvmexixi4297 The problem that arises here is that when kids fear their parents, they just find more sneaky ways to do what they have always been doing.

Damn!..Sounds like you have some deep routed issues with mothers😬 Don't put that on all Mothers hon.

@@Kbinger06 it's a joke

You mean she really is a father.

😂😂😂

You mean a father? It's literally a stereotype of people having absent father figures, at least most mothers actually put I'm thr effort without any reward whilst dad's are praised for the minimum. stop projecting ur mommy issues

*their

periodddd

I got annoyed when the conservative mom said that emotions shouldn't have a role in boundaries. Some people just want things so easily to be seen as a clear cut black/white dichotomy.

Respect is earned, this applies even to kids. If a kid is faar beyond their years in intellect and practicality that’s one things, but kids are not smart, their brains are not fully developed and for most they haven’t done anything that would warrant respect.

@@marsfrog104 maybe you haven’t done anything to warrant being respected, why would anyone owe you any respect for just breathing

what

They titled it queer vs conservative. Then titled the people conservative or "gen Z" under their names. Maybe i'm out of touch with reality in 2023, but I don't think all Gen Z/young are queer.

@@gwildordipkin6504 its the kids silly Quer conversitove and kids

Too many people. It should be 3 on each side

Might be time to make the staff more diverse ideologically

It’s been proven that a no father household has negative affects

@@ryanacey1468 it may have some negative effects on some people for sure; definitely not for me but it’s understandable to not understand that if you grew up needing both parents🤷🏽‍♀️

​@@ryanacey1468what are these negative effects

i would love to hear these “negative *effect*”

Thats not the point. Gay couples are choosing surrogacy. Look at the statistics.

This part‼️

Those are abandoned kids that were already born. Try again start with where babies come from and work your way from there 🧠

@@xavlionheart not very bright are ya.

@@xavlionheart Wow, I never thought that someone could miss the point so much, but you proved me wrong

"And I should be able to hit them if they do something that bothers me"

Wow that's what you took from that? Leaving out a lot there...

@@nicolemartin914 Selective hearing at it's finest. I don't think anyone in this comment section clicked on this video to get a new view on parenting tho.

Ignorant

Both statements are true.

That's what she went through in school being bullied her entire life so before thinking about being a parent in a queer household think of the kids and what they will face why have kids if you queer it's weird

​@@tightadenadecimal9625maybe straight parents should teach their kids not to bully people

@@tightadenadecimal9625I’m Asian and kids used to bully me in elementary school for being Asian. I guess Asian people just shouldn’t reproduce then, huh?

Heck I'm Christian and conservative and I felt bad! I thought it was too much. Even if they believe it, they shouldn't say it. It's too painful. And it's not like she can go back in time and change her parents? So what's the point of hurting her on the fact that she doesn't have a mother.

thank you for being considerate, it's nice to see someone on the other side being respectful!@@VoVina111

​@VoVina111 well I'm an LGBTQ conservative and I felt bad too.😢🫂❤

@@jodyrigsby4764 it was just unnecessary pain 😢

​@@VoVina111yep 😢

Hasn’t even been out for 30 minutes lll

“I don’t believe in studies or stats…”

Which side is ignorant ?

@@duckymomo7935 and you can prove that with the existence of Miami and LA 😂😂😂

@@itsnatemate7697 correct, in a setting where people are speaking anecdotally, statistics don't have a place. None of us were necessarily speaking truth claims, we were speaking subjectively

exactly

But she was still able to find something to agree with. It takes a very open minded and mature person to be able to find something they agree with instead of focusing on everything they disagree with.

I did not like that. Everyone was talking is a respectful way. 🫤

@@iraidar3364 I didn't like that either. None of the conservative parents called anything the other parents said 'sh*t.' There wasn't any need for her to be disrespectful that way. Could as easily have just said she didn't agree and continue on from there with whatever she had to say about it.

​@iraidar3364 i mean cmon. At some point, in their rambling, i lost track what they wanted to say. They are trying to create stuff that isnt there

@@iraidar3364 articulate? maybe. respectful? no. they were being very condescending

I literally wanted her to answer the question, and the producers didn't allow it, because we were tight for time. And Carmen was literally rubbing her back while she was upset.

@@TheNewNationPodcast your homophobia made this video a hard watch. i feel horrible about the people that had to interact with you

@@mdzi679 dude is a complete clown. nobody should take anything that he says seriously

Didn't the conservative woman rub her back? I thought she was the only one who comforted her actually.

@@DD-rh2sz she was also extremely defensive of the people and words who did upset Elizabeth. "no one said this" "no one here said that". That's not very comforting

It says Gen Z, so born after -97. So he can even be 27.

Mike was insufferable

That's exactly why he would say that. You're not very bright are you?

@@TheNewNationPodcast Sir, you aren’t doing yourself any favors by saying that.

@@TheNewNationPodcast neither are you apparently lol

💀 I wonder why he said that

@@TheNewNationPodcast Buddy, teach your kids about earth science and not Genesis before you question someone else's intelligence.

So true ❤ also RIP to your grandma love 🫶🏾

She’s coping

@@Harty2018 damn, you really know her, huh?

Invalidating is so often a weirdly used concept, this is a discussion, people should provide you baseline respect, not simple validation of whatever your stated experience is on the topic. I agree with you otherwise though, sounds like she had loving and supporting parents, and a lot of the guy's points were a bit weak in that back and forth.

@@Harty2018 you're projecting

@@Harty2018 🤓