Do 'Me Too' Accused Deserve Forgiveness? | The View 

To Alyssa we need to believe all women who are victims of war crimes. Incuding those perpetrated by Israel soldiers, US soldiers, etc.

Forgiveness doesnt mean you should be put back into the same positions that allowed you to commit the acts.

We need to believe Palestinians women too, Alyssa.

He is not crying for the victims, he's crying for himself. I'm losing my house😒😢

Its not up to the public to forgive these scumbags. Its up to their victims.

Being accused by 20 men is a BIG DEAL. Kevin's lucky he's not in prison...no pity here.

🇬🇧 British Ex-Actor Here 🇬🇧 I can’t believe you’re giving this man a platform… I usually love The View. I am an ex-actor, now in my 40s. Kevin came to London, UK and became “resident director” here at one of our most prestigious theatres ‘The Old Vic’ - while I was in my 20s. It is an open-fact (I won’t even say ‘open-secret’) between male actors during the mid 2000-2010s that he would get way too ‘friendly’ and impressionable/desperate actors who really wanted the job could be easily preyed on. He auditioned hundreds of handsome young men… none of which could ever tell him to *** off. We were young men in our 20s, we may not have been under-age but I still find it an abuse of power and abuse of position - if as a starving actor you are being invited for ‘chats’ at bars, and ‘career discussions’ back at his apartment. I am SO SURPISED there hasn’t been an expose or a documentary about his tenure here in London… I am a gay man myself, I want the world to hear we do not all prey on other men! I came across a lot of directors, casting directors, agents who did try and abuse their position to sleep with me. It was common place - it happened perhaps more easily 15 years ago then it does now… Post ‘#MeToo Movement’ people are more open about this stuff. Anyway, I think he’s a slime-ball and I hate seeing his public rehabilitation - it’s sickening to see him trying to make this comeback, when I don’t believe the worst has come out yet about him.

I always felt sorry for Aziz Ansari. I think Sara was right, it didn't feel right to group all of these men together.

touching other people private parts without their consent or while being inebrieted shouldn’t be a lesson to be learned. The reason why he is canceled is not just because of his sexual misconduct but because of his behavior behind cameras.

Literally how did that bisssh make this about fake israeli crimes

The thing with Kevin Space is, he wasn't just going after adults, he was targeting children too.

Kevin Spacey incriminated himself a bit in this interview

Joy, "Trump". My day is complete now.

This is one thing that can never be forgiven and it shouldn’t be. Before people talk about “forgiveness” lets talk about accountability

Absolutely not. You reap what you sow.

“Pushing the boundaries,” “being too handsy.” Yeah, Kevin does not get it. He still thinks that what he did was at worst ‘perhaps a little inappropriate.’ No. He’s a brilliant actor, but he does not deserve to return to his former (or any) position of admiration, power or influence.

It’s hard to feel sorry for him because he made so much money, he should’ve had a nice house (not mansion paid off) a nice $70,000 reliable car paid off, and more than enough in savings and investments or stocks. These people live a crazy luxury lifestyle that falls apart the second they stop making big checks.

If it was 20 women he victimized, this conversation would be different. They don't even seem to know the assault he was accused of.

His inability to live within his means despite being a millionaire is not America’s problem. His tears don’t compare to that of his victims.

If the accusations are true- no. You learn at a young age to not rape or fondle people.

Oh no. Kevin has real ppl problems. Real bills, real foreclosure, not living in Hollywood. Maybe you shouldn't have done the deed. Fake tears. I don't feel sorry for him.

If some reports are correct, he had a networth of 70 million and at a time he was making 20 million per season for "house of cards". How is he in debt?

In the words of the Dixie Chicks in one of the greatest F.U. songs ever: forgive sounds good, forget I'm not sure I could

I do not believe victims of sexual assault should be pressured to forgive. That's an egregious violation against their person. They can forgive when they're ready. Forgiveness can be a process.

Kevin Spacey, one of the finest actors of our time, finds himself at the intersection of these principles and public scrutiny. The charges against him are severe and morally troubling, but the bedrock of a civilized justice system insists on innocence until proven guilty.

AND PALESTINEAN WOMEN AS WELL

It cost money to get people to sign non disclosure agreements.

PHYSICAL sexual assault NEVER leaves the victim in many ways for the rest of their lives

Accountability & remorse = forgiveness

What about Palestinian women, Alyssa? If we’re doing whataboutisms…

Aside from Mr Spacey's reputation from being "too handsy", he's also been a monster to crew and less famous castmates. When all of those things are added together---who the heck would want to work with him when one can hire another actor who doesn't arrive on-set with all of the baggage.

The MeToo movement was about shaking down wealthy and powerful men.

it's amazing how Alyssa found a way to connect the topic of this segment to Israel.. this woman is the best example of people in the USA who can't speak Arabic, have never lived in the Middle East, don't know much about the culture, and what people are facing every day there. yet they keep saying that they are Arab ^^.. she doesn't care about what Israel did to her parents' country Lebanon in the last 50 years, but she's concerned about this news that no one can confirm..

Alyssa, we get it you hate Palestinians; okay, let's move on

"Pushing the boundaries"..Spare the tears, please.

To Alyssa - I was falsely accused of sexual harassment by a woman who had another agenda altogether. Fortunately, she was not believed. My reputation suffered because, once you say there's a pink elephant in the room, you can't un-think that. Further, she was bipolar and later committed suicide. Her disorders were intended to destroy my character and my life. I don't feel bad for her one bit - she tried to destroy me, and in the end, she destroyed herself. End of story. All women are NOT to be believed.

Unjust was done to Al Franken; he did not deserved what they did to him. I think that Al such run again for his seat

Morgan Spurlock was getting ahead of a huge exposé that was being published the following month.

Kevin was using his power. He knew these guys weren't interested in him, most are hetero men, gay men too, but most were hetero from what I've seen.

If someone grabbed your package without invitation, it's a crime, cry all you want but it's wrong and illegal

I don’t feel sorry for him

I am not qualified to judge Kevin Spacey or any other person without knowing all the facts... This is why we have courts, judges, juries, and due process.

And you are not worried about the border. Wow!

Nobody deserves forgiveness.

I really atruggle to have sympathy for people who have been lucky enough to have earned millions of dollars, and yet failed to secure themselves financially. That should be the first thing on your list with the first paycheck. Learn from the mistakes of others

It’s starts with the individual. I’ve been complimented on my appearance at work by males and I just said “thank you” for some women, that’s an offense to them

Kudos to Alyssa for bringing up a region where sex crimes are largely overlooked. The victims there deserve support too.

Israeli women? Omg alyssa 🙄🙄

Were those crocodile tears? I hope he never has any power again.

Kevin was acquitted by the law. What else he has to prove that he didn’t do anything wrong. He is such an iconic actor. I want to see him on the screen

The majority of time we adults spend is at work, and it used to be where a lot of couples met. My parents met at work in the 80s. But to their point- now you think twice about even saying someone looks nice or looks good in what they’re wearing because they’re afraid it won’t be appreciated and they’ll complain to HR. And so now dating takes place on apps so much and people don’t even have social skills anymore.

He’s never been found guilty because the victims are men.

He's good at acting, I'll give him that... 🙄

This one sucks. I was a big Spacey fan but like NO. They (including him) do NOT deserve forgiveness

this is why you should always live below your means; millions..really?

Can we point out Larry nassar was the most egregious

He's earned a lot of money during his long career. Any money problems are his.

Kevin Spacey pissed a lot of us gay people off by denying he was gay in the most smarmy way for a long time and then trying to use it as an excuse when he was in trouble.

"A leopard never changes its spots"... Im also a strong believer of the very fact, that people never change, they only reveal who they are...!!! Im a 55 year old grandmother, i been around all walks of life, attending school of life...

Was this an entire segment about how we must forgive celebrity predators? 😂

Play stupid games win stupid prizes

Alyssa thank you for bringing up the point on October 7 so upsetting

You cannot forgive their past actions. They knew right from wrong, and did anyway. Those actions have a life long effect. Their victims still live with the pain.

If these were 20 women instead of 20 men accusing Kevin Spacey, the panel wouldn't be so dismissive. 🙄

We don't ask for forgiveness we earn forgiveness. Especially for such awful things such as these 🙏🕯️

He should be thankful he is not in jail. He doesn’t want forgiveness he wants his former lifestyle. You can’t behave like this without serious consequences.

Joy "Trump". My day is complete!

One of my favorite actors!

No, I don’t think he should be forgiven. If we just start forgiving these individuals who were accused of sexual harassment or sexual assault during MeToo, we’ll just be normalizing this type of behavior in Hollywood, and other people in the future who are like that will think “Well, if I do these things, it’s okay because I’ll have to do is just say I'm sorry, and all will be forgiven.” No, I don’t want that. We’d be creating a seriously bad precedent by forgiving people like Kevin Spacey just because they say that they’re “sorry.” Besides, I don’t think his apology is genuine. He just wants to have his career back and wants to avoid prison. I think all of the panel’s take on this was kind of bad in this segment.

Forgiveness yes but allowed to return to the scene of the crime ? Never

I go by the saying forgive MAYBE (to possibly move on with your life) but forget NEVER .

Kevin paying off 20 dudes had to be expensive

Kevin Spacey was acquited of every single charge. Leeave the man alone.

Alyssa, keep that same energy for Palestinians. We know you won't, because you're a hypocrite.

Accusations do not automatically equal guilt. Many of those 'powerful men', Aziz Ansari/Chris Hardwick/Brett Kavanaugh etc... had their careers tarnished over baseless claims.

Joy… you need to go after Megan Kelly who started with the me-too…movment!! Now she all about Trump… she said she loves… him!!!! Joy!!!🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

We have to believe Israeli women ?????what about Palestinian babies Alyssa

He comes showing his face, as if. Meanwhile, his victims live in shame. Shame on him! He’s not the victim here.

I don't support cancel culture. if someone serves their time or pays their penance they shouldn't serve a life sentence career wise. if they accept accountability and serves their time, they should not be canceled forever

@ 0:43 let's not forget Kevin Spacey is an excellent! Actor 😉...

Sara touched on it but it was quickly discounted. There were levels to the misconduct of these individuals and the public put each one of them in the same category. I think of Aziz Ansari and the allegation against him and how some were trying to call him a gRAPIST because of a bad date. Kevin Spacey wasn't charged with any of the accusations against him. If we truly live in an innocent until proven guilty justice system, people need to let it go. Joy brought up Al Franken and it reminded me that his accuser has photos of her doing the same thing to other men... How can she claim to be a victim of the same thing that she did to men? THIS was my main problem with that case and 'Me Too'.

He was a wonderful actor.

Kevin Space should never be forgiven solely for being on Piers Morgan alone.

The word accountability is interesting. Because it often gets framed as if these celebrities are accountable to the public. But they’re not. They’re accountable to the people they wronged. Many of these individuals could be taking accountability but they’re under no obligation to do publicly. They don’t owe the public anything. They owe those they’ve harmed, that’s it.

Like no...? No.

The former Hollywood mogul was convicted of rape and sexual assault, becoming the poster boy for the #MeToo movement.

Woowww the view really is getting better each day! 👏👏👏👏 Maybe Sunny should stop crying racism, since most slave owners are dead and she came from one!

This is my opinion. We have to forgive people even though sometimes I say it hard. Jesus Disciple, ask him how many times shall we forgive?He says seventy seven times seventy seven. You'll be surprised how it makes you feel inside your body. It's the most beautiful thing I can experience. And sometimes hard we are only human beings..

Once you're accused and prove it didn't happen or it was just accusations the stigma is still there.

Regardless of his faults, he seems so broken and like he has great remorse. I hope he can find his way through 😢

I’m trying my hardest to gaf!! Accountability is good but consequences are a result of your actions. I wonder how traumatized the victims are and how they feel about seeing him flourish after knowing the kind of person he is

If they break the law they will have to face legal consequences. Otherwise, they are innocent.

Alyssa Farah Griffin 35th birthday is tomorrow a day after her former boss President Donald Trump 78th birthday which is today.

It’s a BIG NOPE for me. I can’t believe The View is normalizing this. So gross.

MeToo movement taught us absolutely nothing. I thought it accomplished something, when they caught Harvey....but ultimately, MeToo just made women look at all men as enemies.

I truly believe roe vs wade was overturned because of the me too movement. This is the pendulum just swinging back on us for rocking the boat. Its like everything we do to push forward just knocks us back down again.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with someone telling you "You are beautiful". This excesses are the reason why people don't take Me Too seriously.

the man has been cleared of charges. let him work!

I love watching the view but their discussions are so out of touch most of the time (part of what endears me to the show but other times, ick). There was that time Whoopie asserted that wealthy people should pay less taxes if their money is used within their families. Now this. 5 women in the TV arena, making sure the public knows that if TV people behave poorly, you should still cut them a break. 😳

Thank you Alyssa