Jimmy Carr's BRUTALLY Honest Opinion On CANCEL Culture... 

Same with Ricky really. Their shtick is to be outrageous and edggy which is fine but you don't need to keep saying "I'll proabably get cancelled for that last joke" every show or tour you do

Yeah that's because of survivorship bias. The juggernauts like Jimmy Carr, Ricky Gervais, even people outside comedy like JK Rowling are just too big to be canceled. It's normal people, who have to work hard every day just to maintain a living, who are the ones who are affected.

I think there’s an event of two fingers up to those who try to cancel them by saying ‘I’ll probably get cancelled’, knowing full well they won’t.

@@mrboost4186 Like who? Not many really. There are some extreme examples but that can be found to support any hypothesis. "Cancel culture" is a boogeyman for the most part, mostly invoked by successful people who get criticism, regardless of its validity.

Exactly. “You can’t say anything anymore” as they say whatever they want to millions.

"an anxiety focused mind is in the future, and a depressive mind is in the past" to quote Dr.K/HealthyGamer. I think most of the value of that is about his reasoning, but a great perspective imo.

the lense is yours though...perspective and sense-making are key....

Cancel culture is an alt right myth

@@MrZAPPER1000 I was going to say. Depression is the past, Anxiety is the future

@@MrZAPPER1000 I like that description. Thank you.

Was about to comment the same!!

Giggidy ‘

Oh, he's always looked like that 😂

you know....thats what i was thinking.....lmao....i love Quagmire....

Shows your IQ level.

yes, he's definitely lying.. bullshting big time.

But wouldn't you love to see him cancelled?

The problem is that getting cancelled is just moral outrage, and jimmy has been at the brunt of that, whenever you think scandal, think cancelled. people just didn't have a word like cancelled before. Certainly, being on the press is a type of cancelled. and he has, seeing a comment section from serious people should also tell you a lot.

Ah you've not seen when he got hit with tax evasion like 12 years ago (I think) it was a while ago, he got hit pretty hard for that, probably the closest he's been to being truely cancelled, but that was before cancel culture was for saying the slightest thing wrong. I don't find his standup shows as funny as 8 out of 10 cats, Ricky Gervais' specials are much funnier imo but he's a good host for game shows like 8 out of 10 cats

Firs time wa his tax evasion scandal I assume. Hardly a cancellation either.

And the kicker is that they try to cancel people themselves all the time, or boycott businesses for doing business with people from minority groups they dislike.

They are usually the ones who had a campaign against them to remove their platform but it failed. All the biggest names who speak out against it were targeted, Gervais, Chapelle, Rogan, Rowling etc. If they didn't have that platform already the cancellation attempts would have been a lot more successful I reckon.

@@TrophyGuide101 when you say "it" what are you implying specifically? I see Rowling's mention, is this strictly trans? Or the topic of cancellation in general?

@@brandongratta9040 Cancellation attempts in general. JK had a campaign to have her publisher drop her for example.

This is the Survivorship Bias. You don't hear from people who got canclled. Multiple Professors got fired or bullied out of academia. Here are some examples: Mike Adams, Peter Boghossian, Gregory Manco, etc. And there is also the psychological effect. Normal people will shut up, if they see more famous people get attacked.

It's okay to be brave.

Take a lot of breaks. ;)

Just never EVER give up, the moment you do that, you DESERVE EVRY SINGLE BAD THINGS you face and will face in the future.

Action is the cure for anxiety... :)

That's pathetic

He has said publicly that the mass media shaming of him at the time had a big impact on him personally. You may not see it, but he has been cancelled as he says

@@supertouring22 Something having a big impact on a person personally is not the same as them being cancelled publicly. Death of a loved one for example. In this case the incident became a goldmine for new material if anything, so quite the opposite.

@@garethm3242 Not to mention, on the whole failing to reject this ridiculous phrase, he almost kind of gets it that it doesn't affect him any more than someone not liking his jokes. He's so close. Plus, on the "criticize ideas, don't cancel people" he fails to see that it's people (people with big platforms, specifically) who popularize ideas in spite of all criticism to said ideas. Of course they're gonna get pushback!

Thank God someone else said it. Fully agree. When people say "I've been cancelled X number of times" then it kinda shows they weren't really properly "cancelled" at all. Like, do people mean different things when they're saying it? Does the phrase even mean anything at all at this point?

@@richardhollis3783 Exactly this. People who claim they’ve been cancelled now seem to be defining it as ‘some people didn’t agree with me on some things’. This has surely been around forever? Jimmy Carr dodged tax and told jokes some people didn’t like, some people decided either things were out of order/not for them. When exactly was he ‘cancelled’? I don’t remember any substantial gaps in his TV career/live show tours?

So is victimhood, though.

Only psychopathic narcissists like these two jokers care about such trivial nonsense - the difference is they have the arrogance to preach as though they are intellectuals 🤣

​@@smaakjeksso?

@@corriemathiowetz2135 aging comedians cling to victimhood instead of realising they're wrong

@pooun435 Yup. And Ricky Gervais. And John Cleese. I love stuff all of them have made in the past. But, I guess they aged like fine whine

Funny I thought he was just referencing the fact that many of his unacceptable comedy topics were areas where you could joke when he was younger.

Thank you! I thought I was losing my mind watching this and reading these comments. You can't move for 'edgy' comedians being paid huge amounts of money by giant streaming platforms, and every last one of them seems convinced that their careers are being taken away. Bizarre.

I was genuinely confused by how Gervais' show was mainly him having a whinge about twitter posts he didn't like.

A lot of people tried.

@@Na_Desportiva You mean people wrote mean stuff on Twitter? Oh noes.

@@Na_Desportiva Really? Who specifically? It certainly wasn't commissioning editors. Maybe the HMRC after his tax "Issues" I suppose...

It's not destroying the careers of guys as big as them but it has destroyed many other careers

@@souxcasa No it hasn’t

​@souxcasa who?

@@vizjim2I don’t think he can back up his claims. According to The Box Comedy Club (promoters) the health of the industry hasn’t been this good for a very long time. There’s lots of factors of course but if ‘cancel culture’ was killing comedy careers you’d expect to see some dip in sales (because (a) people are losing their careers and (b) because the material the others are left with is so unappealing punters stop going). What the commenter MIGHT be able to do is reference some people whose material is out of fashion which we’ve seen time and again since Charlie Chaplin. And as much as we could point to Jim Davidson and try to make some point about his material, we can also point to Carr, Gervais and Chapelle and make the opposite point.

@@vladimirimp Those who seek to deny cancel culture are the same ones who keep trying to get people cancelled. You are one of them.

I’d disagree with your first sentence - the Prime Minister took time out of a G7 conference to publicly lambast Jimmy for his tax avoidance. He’s very fortunate/lucky/ to continue after that. He doesn’t say this publicly but I think his ‘friendship’ such as it was with John Richardson took a nose dive after that bc John seemed really gleeful that Jimmy was under the spotlight. The same couldn’t be said for others who stuck by him. All imho of course!

@@ArcofZen very differenet from being close to cancelled for your material which Jimmy hasn't. It's marketing to think you're watching something taboo when in reality it's not that. Not to take anything away from Jimmy he's talented and a marketing genius and far from the only comedianm to use the "i'm going to get cancelled for saying that" trick

Jimmy is too big to be cancelled. Unless he turns out to be a pedo or is found guilty of serious sexual assault then it’s never going to happen. Him talking about being cancelled is a bit of a contradiction in terms because people who are genuinely cancelled have pretty much no avenue to talk about it in such terms, because their career is essentially ended. Jimmy can’t talk about being cancelled in the same breath as mentioning his new Netflix show - it’s just ridiculous on its face. I would have liked the interviewer to highlight that the likes of Carr, Gervais, etc can make light of cancel culture because they’re immune to it. Smaller comics, lesser known people, people who aren’t millionaires, etc - cancel culture really does affect them.

Indeed. The thing that bothers me about such responses is that they consciously confuse criticism with "cancellation." They are not the same things.

@@ArcofZen Quote: "I'd disagree with your first sentence". - Your entire reply seems to be about his second sentence. quote: "he doesn't say this publicly but I think" , followed by a scenario you have completely imagined based on a fact you invented, using an argument only you seem to be aware of, while not once even bothering to get someone's name right. Being called out on his tax avoidance by a PM is not the same as 'being cancelled' by the public. That's called: "legal consequences" and a PM who doesn't get his priorities straight. If anything, it would, and verifiably did, get him even more of an audience for: "sticking it to the man!" and an entire group of people who were up to that point not even aware he existed to notice him being mentioned constantly and appearing on media outlets he would before that never been even considered for. Like this video you just watched. Your entire reply is moot.

He’s a hack

@@jimjiminy5836 aww hurty feelings

The only difference is those people don't have the power to do it.

if they do not like something then no one is allowed to like it - and if you disagree you are the problem

@@ch3rt. No one does. Because it isn't a thing.

@@bronsoncarder2491 That's a poor attempt at gaslighting. We've seen and continue to see people who don't tow the woke line having their concerts cancelled or their bank accounts closed down. It's funny you try to deny it, it makes you appear to be one of the cancellers but you can't justify your compulsion to censor everything you don't like.

​​​@@bronsoncarder2491 This is a BS take. The word is almost meaningless but the core of 'Cancel culture' is a group of people getting offended by someone and deciding to take steps to make it harder for fans of that person to see them. Gervais offended me, Netflix remove his special so others can't watch it or I'm cancelling my subscription. Rogan offended me, Spotify remove his podcast so others can't hear it or I'll cancel my subscription etc. That is cancel culture, it rarely works on people already established so the end goal of 'cancelling' them is rarely achieved but to deny the entire thing exists is tells me you're delusional or you're one of these people who supports it but rebrands it as 'accountability culture' or some bs.

Exactly!

People actively going after people's careers,writing to festivals demanding that they are denied work and writing to potential employers is cancel culture. He's big enough that he'll be fine but many careers have been ruined over this nonsense. Listen to the woman who made the documentary 'jihad rehad' and tell me again there's no cancel culture

Agreed

I think you should cancel him

He’s not claiming to have been cancelled. It’s true, he is using the term flippantly, but he’s referring to the countless times he’s faced public outrage. Most recently his previous Netflix special had people protesting outside one of his shows, after tens of thousands of people were sharing one of his jokes (out of context) across twitter trying to ‘cancel’ him. That’s a fair example of Carr being a victim of cancel culture- it just didn’t work. It’s not the first time and won’t be the last, I’m sure. He’s too big to be cancelled/silenced.

There is plenty of cancel culture but Carr is not a victim of it.

It is a quote from Hitler.

@@selvamthiagarajan8152 Somehow I can't find that. Where'd you find it?

Nobody is universally loved. Even the real good guys are hated through jealousy and envy.

Never give up! It's just the unfortunate truth that the majority of people don't and won't get it. Not just autism, but most things that require something of them. But the good ones are out there

@@brandongratta9040 I think the issue is that when people are socially awkward they withdraw. This makes meeting new people difficult. I'm never going to be comfortable in a pottery class or similar so I don't know how to engage anymore. Autism has layers of difficulty especially when the individual is intelligent and can understand the issues. Thanks for your response.

@@lukesteverything627 wishing you the best 🙏🏾

Why should he be labeled as socially awkward? Maybe it's everyone else that is socially awkward.

It's because a big part of a friendship is giving and taking, often on a emotional level. A lot of autists aren't able to give things on a emotional level like normal people can. Therefore for normal people autists look like egoists who only take, but don't give. It feels completely one-sided. As long as you aren't able to give the things other people need, you won't be able to get a friend.

Down to earth tax dodger

Yeah I’m not sure about that

@christopherhorner-ox4xn sorry Jimmy

@christopherhorner-ox4xn Jimmy can I ask you a question?

@@christopherhorner-ox4xn But the problem I have Jimmy, is that he is always champagning Socialism but like most middle class socialists, he REALLY thinks its someone else's job to pay for it.

but your depression might be less painful ( maybe)

Link to the study?

Wow. I have bipolar and if I could get well I would immediately. My whole life has been ruined by this. What kind of bipolar do you have do you mind me asking?

@@bobsmith5441 right?!

I had what I'd call a nervous breakdown, although the psychiatrists and psychologist called it various names. It was the dominant feature of my life for more than four and a half years. I came close a couple of times. It changed me fundamentally, from the way I look at myself to the way I view my family. I believe I am a better person for having come through it all, although, of course, the cost was more with my family than me. I am so sorry for the pain I put my wife, especially my wife, and my kids through. But if I could revert to the old me, would I go back? If it took the pain away from my family, then yes, but I much prefer how I am now and I would resent losing that. I first of all thought I lost friends, but I didn't. The ones who abandoned me weren't friends. Those who stayed with me helped no end and I'm extremely grateful to them and that I now realise what they did for me. I'm still suffering, and have days, gradually becoming less frequent, when the black cloud comes over, but I'm still almost grateful for the experience and the opportunity to learn. Life is experience and no one wants to go through life without the downs. 'This too shall pass,' is both a promise and a threat, but at various times.

There was a bigger pile on for his tax dodging and making a tame joke about military veterans (he joked that the plus side of all the soldiers receiving amputations from IEDs meant we’d have a brilliant Paralympics team) but because that was instigated by mass media and not social media it never seems to get mentioned.

Having enough money to live comfortably will reduce your anxiety.

​@@sueyourself5413 Nope... You didn't listen to the video, did you? Your anxious self will just be worrying about something else.

I am anxious to know what is your profile picture ?

I'm not sure I understand what he's talking about when saying that he has been cancelled many times. As in, have his shows or TV specials been canceled? Has he been uninvited from various events? Because that's what I hear cancel culture is about, isn't it? If it's just about some people voicing some dislike on social media but with no consequence to his job in comedy, then that to me doesn't sound like he has been cancelled. It just sounds like some people disliked something he said, and that's about it.

He did get canceled by different communities at different times. He just kept going.

@@odeegrotsniffer4166read your own sentence again slowly

Nah it's just free speech🤷

Or suppression of. ​@@stevenp2309

There's no mob. You sound so stupid buying it.

It's not the mob it's the MSM who are controlled

When has the mob ever done this though? Some tweets on twitter? The only way people get ‘cancelled’ is if they’ve done criminal or nasty stuff, and then advertisers backed off. Even someone as nasty and criminal as Trump isn’t cancelled.

Could it be because there is more to it than just comedy?

No, it’s can’t…

The thing is, that in essence what you’re describing that people should do, is in fact labelled as cancel culture as soon as people say why they don’t like x, y or z. It’s something that has always been there, at one point in time it was described as voting with your feet. The only difference is that it is now being brandished as a political weapon by those who shout about wokeness and political correctness gone mad and those scared that the right wing are taking over. In reality the only thing that has changed is that society as a whole has fallen for the mainstream media and social media using it as an opportunity to create further division, just by giving it a new label and pointing a finger at those who they feel politically opposed to.

Because non-stand up comedians like Ricky Gervais go into stand-up comedy to use it as a shield.

​@@matthewevans107How is Gervais not a stand up comedian? He's been doing stand up for over 25 years. He just became known to many from TV show work.

Irony is the undying sign of intelligence

IMO you can’t be funny if you’re not clever. To be funny you have to be able to see and play around with different levels of meaning in ordinary everyday things and people, creating scenarios everybody recognises but nobody has seen before.

It's only because he wasn't. Other than that, it's a real problem, like Alien Death Rays and Area 69.

@@vangroover1903 He who denies it deals it. You're a canceller.

Its because they are the people who survive it. When people in power get cancelled or even commit a criminal offense, they get away with it. When normal people get cancelled, their entire lives are utterly destroyed. We go after their jobs, we find where they live and we do as much damage as we can and often they don't survive it, but because they aren't famous, you never really hear about them again. In world war 2, the British had fighter planes coming back from battle with lots of bullet holes in their wings, but very few over the engine. At first, they thought that meant planes were more likely to have their wings hit, and so they wanted to put more armor on the wings. What they realised though was the planes that had their wings hit made it back to safety, the ones with bullet holes over the engine didn't. What you are seeing are the survivors of cancel culture. You can't see the people who were shot down by an engine strike and drowned.

@@loftyradish6972 Normal people do not get cancelled, and getting banned on a social media platform for saying something that’s against terms of service is not cancelling. Your use of survivorship-bias would be relevant if not for the fact that there’s no significant statistical backing for cancelling happening.

@@loftyradish6972 You write about normal people getting cancelled and having their lives ruined. Do you have anything to back this up with? Any studies that show statistics on this? I'm asking because these discussions on cancel culture always seem to be super anecdotal but thin on empirical facts. Also, I thought that "getting cancelled" usually refered to someone whose public talk, show, music event etc. being canceled due to something controversial about the person in question. When you talk about "when normal people get cancelled", are you referring to something else?

@@ssjcosty As far as I can see, there aren't many studies on this, in academic papers cancel culture and doxxing are fairly new topics, I have only found papers about it dating back to 2020 and they are discussing the implications of it, rather than publishing statistics. While there aren't statistics, there absolutely is evidence of cancel culture impacting regular people. A part of cancel culture is doxxing. Doxxing doesn't typically work on celebrities because they have the resources and public support to survive it. But normal people don't have that. I'm just going to pop down a number of newspaper articles and a few journal articles on different people who got cancelled. All of them were subjected to twitter/online mobs, were doxxed and then either were fired, or died. Those that were fired were normal people, and those that died were mostly celebrities with a few exceptions. Those that at the time were fired, we don't know much about how they are doing now because they aren't public figures. But if just me, a rando on the internet know about this many... there are going to be a lot more that we don't know about. A few of these revolve around kpop, that is just because I watch and listen to Korean media. BTS fans get a realtor fired because he said something racist. nextshark.com/bts-fans-get-racist-realtor-fired Woman makes racist joke, gets publicly shamed, threatened, doxxed and fired. www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/22/pr-exec-fired-racist-tweet-aids-africa-apology Woman filmed tearing down poster of Israeli Oct 7 Kidnap victim posters. Doxxed & fired www.npr.org/2024/04/11/1231084790/israel-kidnapped-posters-tore-down-doxxed Pro-Palestine Harvard students doxxed over letter www.axios.com/2023/10/12/harvard-students-doxxed-israel-palestine Woman fired for having a tantrum in mcdonalds, was filmed by a stranger and had tantrum posted on tiktok. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Aq1PyOdP110.html 2 teens try to cancel tiktokker, he commits suicide ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V4L3WxFLgSc.html K-Pop star Sulli kills herself over online-bullying due to being an outspoken feminist. While Koreans call it "cyber bullying" it is identical to our cancel culture, the name is just more appropriate. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/15/how-k-pop-stars-death-reveals-truth-about-our-society/ Korean actor dies after being cancelled due to anonymous allegations that a male actor had sexually assaulted someone. www.researchgate.net/publication/362189881_Kim_Seon_Ho_You_Are_Cancelled_The_Collective_Understanding_of_Cancel_Culture Korean actor dies after being accused of taking drugs and consequently being cancelled. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dK_MvbOOvT0.html I really hope you see that there is a serious problem with cancel culture. Its not just that I'm being silly. I am seeing a pattern. Someone does something, or says something that some people don't like, whether that is justified or not. As a result, they are publicly shamed, often doxxed, and sometimes commit suicide. I think we will be seeing statistics coming out in the next few years that assess the impact of cancel culture on regular people and celebrities. Studies of this nature take time, it will start out with news articles and case studies, as is beginning now, and will likely develop into large-scale studies. No statistics doesn't equal something isn't happening. Statistics are generally a few years behind current events, especially when it is a relatively new phenomenon. :)

@@ssjcosty You know what regular folk do get properly cancelled? The minority groups that are targeted by said jokes, of who the sycophants that defend said jokes and take it as some truth are usually the ones who go target said groups and make their lives a living hell, like trans people or gay people, because that group hates them and do not think they deserve to live a normal life. THAT is proper cancellation, not the fake kind that rich celebrities claim happens to them when they eggo those hatefilled groups on with their supposed jokes.

He's not in the wrong though

They get cancelled temporarily until all the pussy's. Move on to the next thing to cry about. Give them chance to forget about the situation then put them back on TV

You mean you haven't yet managed to make your cancellation of Jimmy Carr permanent, so it doesn't count.

​@@rozzgrey801exactly, it's like the twitter mob who demanded Netflix cancel their partnership with Chapelle. When Netflix told them to beat it they pretended cancel culture wasn't real.

I think it woulda worked better if he’d used the term”attempted” in there somewhere.

He gets paid millions to just talk, and he says he is being cancelled for talking. Jimmy has lost his mind since getting the botox

No there are people being sacked from their job because of ‘wrong think’. Rich people or comedians don’t get cancelled as they always have fans (which is what he says) but normal people are suffering.

@@rigsby1454 Who? What job did they do? What was their ‘wrong think’ that got them fired? I think the moral panic over this is overblown.

@@amyheckathorn7172 BAAAAA, BAAAAAAAAAAA and BAAAAAAAA, Watch the BCC much?

@@twobob8585 Not really. I live in the US.

This 100%

It's all he does. Couple of one liners, then always..."I'll get cancelled for this next one" It's mental that a household name thinks he's being cancelled.

Graham Lineman wasn’t even a stand-up comedian. He got included as an unannounced special guest comedian on a GB News backed comedy tour because of his views. That’s the opposite of being cancelled.

@@matthewevans107 Sell your red herrings at a different market.

He's also been completely vindicated by the Cass Review (along with multiple other who also had their lives ruined over the same issue). Ironically, he's also made up with Dankula - someone else who got cancelled and in which Graham piled on to help.

you can't cancel them when they ask to be cancelled, they know the trick. "this is what you're going to try and do about what I'm saying, and this is why you are ridiculous to try and do it, and this is also why i don't really mean what i say in the first place" - removes the power from those trying to cancel.

@@Bingpot_Cowabunga And then clips of their shows get posted on here and you get 1000s of sycophants commenting how those jokes are all so true and real. And they go out and put actual peoples lives at risk with their bigotry, because they en masse fell for this counterculture grift.

I agree, there’s a lot of conflation of criticism and cancellation these days.

Yeah, I don't remember him losing it all either. He did get media "attention" with his tax scandal, but no one cancelled his shows or swore to never do business with him. Getting into a scandal is not the same as being cancelled

Grifters. Yet another name that’s found its place online.

I think that “Cancelled” is the attempt to cancel in this instance. It doesn’t mean it’s gonna catch on or stick. I think that’s the point he’s trying to make

@@BigBlancoBabyconflating an attempted cancellation with an actual cancellation seems like exactly the sort of victimisation culture anti-woke comedians complain about. Still, it gets RU-vid clicks I guess.

he's an even better lover

@@Bingpot_Cowabunga lolled

It'd be nice if his 'jokes' didn't all revolve around him constantly reminding everyone how edgy he is. Anyone who's entire persona revolves about that are just really fucking boring and desperate. The fact he compared himself to the Beatles shows how far up his own arse he's gone. Richard Pryor/Anthony jeselnik/Jim Jefferies/Frankie Boyle etc all tell dark and edgy jokes but don't constantly bang on about how they're getting cancelled or how edgy they are because they're actually funny.

That was vicious.

Comedy is subjective... Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Jimmy's comedy is great. Your just wrong....in my opinion 😂😂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k8Dgy-KjlKw.htmlsi=DRrx-IPKfxmhljRQ

And at some point he'll feel like a fool for it.

Oh boohoo

@@Monkey-fv2km He already does and is doing lots of Podcasts.