Do ND Filters Matter? No filter vs ND vs NDPL Filter

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Do you need an ND filter to film cinematic video? When should you use an ND PL filter? Do I need filters at all? Let's learn when to use what kind of filter, and what results you can expect from them.
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0:00 Introduction
0:19 What do ND filters Do?
1:09 Do you need ND filters for Photography?
1:52 What are ND PL Filters?
2:40 ND Filter Tests & Results
5:19 Will an ND PL Filter Remove ALL Glare?
5:40 How to Properly Use a Polarized ND Filter
5:43 What Strength ND Filter Should I Buy?
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@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Which filters are you guys using most? ND or ND/PL? I find myself using a mix of both. Thanks for watching!

@bitlong4669 3 года назад

I also like using graduated ones, especially if I plan to capture sky with ground or close to horizon. Give good results with dark subject like a dark forest and bright blue sky.

@mrpeterpumpkin48 3 года назад

My guess is I will be using ND a lot, but I live on a lake and have a boat, so I’ll be needing a polarizing filter also.

@diogogamba9338 3 года назад

Depend situation, i use more ND-PL I think they correct the images better.

@AntonioIndelicato 3 года назад

Bought a set of 5 ND/PL Skyreat, I can tell how the color is improved by a lot! My advise is the PL are way much better then the ND only.

@hooliganhalo4328 3 года назад

I like to do over the water low shots, so definitely Polarized. Comes out so much better in post.

@GoodGuysMedia 3 года назад

Don't know how I JUST discovered you and your channel...so glad I did! Clear, structured, delivery of info. Objective tests and studies. I appreciate your work👌

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad you found the channel, lee! Appreciate your kind words and feedback! I try to be as structured as possible but it’s tough sometimes! Haha. Thanks for watching

@phuotchillchill 19 дней назад

i watched a lot of chanel talking of ND Filter but you are the BEST! Short - Clear - Simple. Thank you so much. Now i know what i need

@danteinchaosforever 3 года назад

Thanks, I felt this was a well explained subject. I'm just starting with filters so I'm look for reference material and this helped.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful! Have fun filming and thanks for watching

@mardrones Год назад

Best video I've seen explaining NDPL filters. Thanks Keith!

@codylander Год назад

Love the comparison between the filters. Great work as always!

@keith-knittel Год назад

Thanks for the kind words and support, Cody! 👍

@MuffinmanT90 Год назад

Wow thanks this is the 3rd video I watched and finally you just flat out explained it and didn't jump around! Thank you so much again it just clicked to me half way through I was like this guy is awesome!

@toddjensen8806 Год назад

This is the nd filter video I have been looking for for four days now! Thanks for creating this my man

@keith-knittel Год назад

Glad I could help! ND filters can be confusing - they were for me at first!

@Smokdeel 2 года назад

Many thanks for sharing.I'm relatively new to the topic and I found this video very informative and digestible.

@4khongkong58 3 года назад

I bought the Skyreat ND filters and I’m pretty happy with them. Thanks for taking the time to share your expertise.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

You're welcome and hope you found the video useful. Thanks for watching

@amateurvisser 5 месяцев назад

This is probably the best explanation I've come across. Thank you.

@keith-knittel 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the kind words and glad it was helpful!

@ckeelor 3 года назад

Sitting here in north Carolina watching RU-vid and your video was recommended to me... And you started off with a shot from lakewood park and Bradstreet landing. Wasn't expecting my hometown! Nice work, subscribed

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad I could give you a look at your home town! It's a great area and love it (other than the weather right now - you have it a little warmer in NC right now!) They are doing some construction on bradstreet and that's my go-to testing spot, so I've had to look elsewhere for my videos lately! Thanks for watching and hello from NE Ohio!

@ksaboda 3 года назад

Thank you for this clear explanation. I’m just getting into nd filters for my mini 2 and your video was extremely helpful.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad to help, ND filters can be tricky at first - but they are awesome for making natural-looking footage. Congrats on your new Mini 2 and thanks for watching.

@ZilveriCosas 2 года назад

Okay, this was a really good explanation. As an amateur, I always struggled with ND filters. Going to save this video for future reference. Thanks!

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful! It can be a tricky topic to understand but they are a great addition to your kit for filming cinematic video in bright environments. Thanks for the kind words and watching, Zilver.

@MattMattMat 3 года назад

Super easy to understand and straight to the point. Thank you!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Thanks matt! Hope you found it useful. Thanks for watching

@EricTheHiking 10 месяцев назад

Love your explanation ! Very clear !

@jasonbutler2605 3 года назад

Very well presented, easy to understand, truly enlightening (since we are talking about filters...). Thank you for this really useful video. I was able to understand filters much better and do away with all ambiguity related to the visual effect of ND and polarizing filters. Thank you so much for this upload! Great job! I will go ahead and buy the PolarPro ND filter set that you recommended (8,16,32).

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! Filters can have some big impacts on your footage - hope you have fun using them! Thanks again for the kind words and watching, Jason!

@solicannoli34 3 года назад

Great video! I was super confused about the differences between them also all the numbers lol. You saved my money. Thanks!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad to hear you enjoyed the video, Soli! Thanks for watching and glad I could save you some money!

@rikimarizard Год назад

First I saw the not great Jeven Dovey video and then I'm so glad I found this video showing an actual comparison of ND vs no ND. Great work on showing the difference - super helpful to have the subject and lighting conditions the same so we can tell the difference.

@keith-knittel Год назад

Thank you for the kind words, glad it was helpful!

@denisnatera3633 3 года назад

Thanks for the video bro Ive watched a few videos on ND filters but yours was the best

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words, Denis ! Glad it was helpful

@hooliganhalo4328 3 года назад

Very informative tut. Not too technical at all. Actually explained everything to a T. Love the mathematics involved and love the trickery with bumping the shutter speed and frame rate. Liked and subscribed for sure. 👍

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful! I'm far from the first person to use this concept, but have been using it for years. You can also break this too! If you're shooting something fast like a car, and don't want as much motion blur, you can slightly bump up the shutter for less blur. Removing the motion blur might not be a good idea - but experiment around with your settings! It sounds nerdy, but it can separate your footage from everyone elses! Sorry for the rant and glad you enjoyed the video enough to like and sub.

@abdanshipp7037 Год назад

so very clear, thnaks so much

@keith-knittel Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@redstoneranger1404 3 года назад

You really helped a bloody beginner to understand when to use which filter. Thanks a lot!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad to help!

@cochisetorres3677 2 года назад

bro thanks I finally understand the difference of ND filters & ND filters with PL

@adventuresandstuff Год назад

This is a great, simple video. Thanks!

@athirath Год назад

Explained really well. Thank You !!

@keith-knittel Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@Fjay0609 3 года назад

thanks, on-point what I was looking for.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad to hear that, thanks for watching!

@blackout19 3 года назад

Great comparison, thanks. Also, loved you in Ferris Bueller's Day Off!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! ............Bueller...........

@OAVProduction 2 года назад

very informative was about to make a purchase of some set of filters and this video just saved me a few bucks. thanks again

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

Glad to help out!!

@AB13 3 года назад

Absolute concept clearing video Thanks :)

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Hope you found it useful, akshay! Thanks for watching and the kind words

@RomanFilus 3 года назад

Great informative video! Just bought PolarPro Vivid collection and this was truly helpful. Thank you :) You got yourself a new subscriber. Also, kudos for the super crisp mic sound! Keep it up

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it, Roman! Those are great filters - thanks for the kind words, watching and subscribing!

@ChrisParayno 3 года назад

For drone footage, only during mid day. Any other time, it's a hassle especially if you are shooting multiple locations with different exposures. A filter maybe perfect for awesome sunsets but once you turn around it maybe too dark.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Definitely location and weather dependent, but I agree. Sometimes in the morning in ohio if it's overcast, I don't need to use a filter at all. Sometimes I have to use an ND8 at sunrise because it's so bring. Thanks for watching, Chris!

@RYANP3Z 3 года назад

Great explanation, one of the best I've seen on RU-vid so far. Thanks for putting this together!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words, Ryan! Enjoyed making it - thanks for watching and your support!

@musicbrum1 Год назад

Very nice explanation !

@profilgeek5332 3 года назад

"if you don't like the video, share it to some one you don't like" ahah I love it. Thanks for this video ! It is very interesting with details, I was looking for some informations about ND/PL filters and you gave me the answer I was looking for. Many thanks !

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad you found the video helpful and thanks for the kind words!

@pplusbthrust 3 года назад

A lot of went into this presentation. 👍 Thanks.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

This took a while to film, but hopefully you enjoyed it and found it helpful! Thanks for watching

@Tom17ire 3 года назад

Great video. I've watched a lot of videos about ND filters and this was the best. Straight to the point. Cheers :)

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Wow - glad I could help! Thanks for the kind words and watching!

@floriannoel362 3 года назад

I agrre here after watching countless videos on the topic this one made me understand it all ! Clear and simple great job

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

@@floriannoel362 Thanks, glad the video was able to help!

@yuriyakubovsky6444 Год назад

Thank you!

@TrockeyTrockey 2 года назад

Thanks for info. Interesting!

@RokkarTV 2 года назад

Dang dude, this was informative. Thank you for making this video :)

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the kind words!

@robjeeves Год назад

Nice tip about the frame rate mate. Not heard that one !!!

@Mir_Vashemy_Domy Год назад

Thanks for your video. Very useful!

@keith-knittel Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@ReadytoChop 3 года назад

Lakewood, nice. I've filmed at the Solstice Steps pretty often.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

It's a great place to film (and take a walk/run)! Thanks for watching and commenting

@TexasFamilyCamping 3 года назад

Great rundown. I've yet to explore the ND filters on our Air 2 drone. I'm excited to go out and try this out.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

They're awesome for the MA2 since the camera is so good! If you're filming a lot in bright environments they will give you great video if you're using the 180 degree shutter rule. Thanks again for watching so many of my videos, Texas Family Camping!

@pierresakr1811 3 года назад

Thank for Your Prompt Explanation ,

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

You are welcome, hope it was helpful! Thanks for watching

@itsmeericb 3 года назад

Awesome video! Great info! I am a motovlogger and use a gopro on my helmet. Having the motion blur helps to show my environment when I am at speed.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

For sure! That is a great use for the slight motion blur - and as you go faster, the blur increases. Thanks for watching, Eric!

@DjMickeyC1 2 года назад

Very impressed with this my friend. Off on a trip to Wales, UK on Sunday to get some footage. Just bought the polar pro shutter collection filters. Hopefully do a good job 😁

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

Have fun! That sounds like a great (and windy!) spot to film - good luck and thanks for watching

@kevinpetergemeniano5371 Год назад

Best explanation ever!

@keith-knittel Год назад

Thank you, Kevin! Appreciate the support

@4K-Walk-and-Drive-BR Год назад

Excellent explanation! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, here! 👋

@user-goldeneunga 2 года назад

reeealy nice video quality!

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

I'm glad you like it! Thanks for the kind words and watching

@PatrickConlon 3 года назад

Great job.. you have shared a very useful information.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching

@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision Год назад

Great tips

@TheEmperor2029 3 года назад

Thanks for advices and for video!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

No problem - thanks for watching and commenting!

@ZayasRaymond1 2 года назад

Sold me on the polar pro filters. Was going to get a cheaper set but I love the quality of the polar pro’s.

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

Filters are tough, since they go in front of your lens, cheaper ones can have a color cast or blur the image when you just want it darker. I’ve been really happy with the polar pro filters so far!

@DroneALRM 2 года назад

Nice tips! Good information. Congratulations from Brasil 🇧🇷

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

Thanks for the kind words! Greetings from the us!

@tylerjslattery 3 года назад

the line on the filter indicates the direction of the polarizing lines. Polarizing is done by a series of very small lines in the filter that run parallel to each other. Changing the filter from the line in the 12 oclock to 6 oclock will not change anything (because the lines are parallel and run the entire length of the lens.) The polarizing doesn't work horizontally because the phase of reflected light is perpendicular to the surface. Most of the light is vertical and gets reflected horizontally and is why the up and down lines will cancel it out.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Very true and sometimes frustrating (especially with a drone) to get the polarization wrong. Thanks for watching

@maximgoodvin6519 2 года назад

Хоть один умный человек нашелся, который понимает как устроен поляризатор ))) А автор ребенок с игрушками... ))

@tylerjslattery 2 года назад

@@maximgoodvin6519 Спасибо

@WithDennisK Год назад

LOL the last sentence

@vijaCZEk1 3 года назад

thank you very much, usefull video!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad to hear that! Thanks for watching

@bazilmatthews9299 Год назад

Thankyou. Was out and tried to fit. Not the same as Mini 2

@Auhana50 3 года назад

Polarization works better when it’s at a 90 degree. Great video thanks for posting

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Yeah, just how polarization works - decided to test it out just to make sure the lines on the filter were correct (and I've known that, but I never actually tested it before now). Thanks for the kind words and watching, JC

@my-walks 9 месяцев назад

Very helpful, Thank you

@keith-knittel 9 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@fwfeo 3 года назад

From my experience in Photography using circular polarizing filter, it is a biased filter! I mean no matter with position you adjust it to, it'll cut off some glare in the scene. For example you can make the sky that is 90 degrees from the sun's position looks super blue and dark or make it look slightly brighter compared to the surrounding scene. It's a tricky filter but very enjoyable to use. I highly recommend it if you're shooting a bald guy with shinny head! You can cut the glare for your portraits quite a bit! It's also great for shooting through glass or clear water in nature.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

It's a tough filter to use, and it changes with how you point your camera at the object. There is a fair bit of changing angles in the air while using one with a drone. It can be done, but it's definitely not a "set it an forget it" type of filter! Thanks for watching

@a.b.5757 3 года назад

Thanks Keith for great video! What is still open for me, is following question - would you recommend using nd/pl filter on non-reflecting objects?

@georgemarciocardoso 2 года назад

Nice job. Thank you

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

Thanks for the kind words and watching!

@OsorioMotoVlog 2 года назад

very good.. saludos desde Paraguay

@Freddy-WandernReisenAbenteuer 3 года назад

Interessant

@OCEANCRAFTSMotionGallery 3 года назад

I am using MOMENT AIR ND filters on M2P. I also have PL filter from MOMENT but never had a chance to use it so far. Thank you for your detailed informative video. I”d like to find an opportunity to try my PL filter!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad you found the video useful! How do you like your Moment filters? I've never used any but would like to try them out in the future. So many filters to try! Thanks for watching and commenting

@OCEANCRAFTSMotionGallery 3 года назад

Moment filters give me richer tones while controlling the light balance. I love them😃 Have a great weekend, my friend🌈

@dmichalopoulos4239 3 года назад

finally someone that can simply explain some things about how to use filters on people that are not photographers or have experience.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the video! I wanted to break it down but not be boring and too drawn out. Hope it helped and thanks for watching!

@wlacalle 3 года назад

Great information 👍

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@frednorman1 3 года назад

Excellent video

@droneriobr 3 года назад

Awesome video!

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it 👍👍👍

@mraznoor 3 года назад

YOUR AUDIO SOOOO GOOODD

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Thank you! I spend a long time trying to get my audio just right for these videos, glad you liked it!

@rajeshp6700 Год назад

Many thanks! I have looked high and low for an explanatory video on ND and NDPL filters and you have just made it so clear and to the point. Couldn't help giving a big Like (am already subscribed!). Just one question. I have an Osmo Pocket 2 and was looking for directions on ND and NDPL filters. All that you touched upon in this video will, I assume, be just as relevant for non-drone (the Pocket 2, in my case) videography too, right?

@sashokiz606 2 года назад

Yeah boi. Good explained 👍🏻

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching

@wza360 3 года назад

Awesome. Thanks

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

You're welcome! thanks for watching and commenting

@aceofthebrothelstreet6720 3 года назад

great man i am subscribing

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Thanks for the sub! Hope you enjoyed the video

@BillSheley 3 года назад

very good explanation

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Thanks and hope the video was helpful!

@mrpeterpumpkin48 3 года назад

Thank you! I think I FINALLY understand the benefits and reasons behind using these filters. Great job. Well done. I have a Mini 2. I realize it’s limitations but I’d like to get a polarizing filter for it. I don’t find an offering from Polar Pro Filters. Do you have a recommendation?

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Filters are tricky at first but they can give you some great results! Freewell has some polarized Nd filters. There is a link in the description to them on my “mini 2 accessories” video. I’d link you here but I’m on my phone. Thanks for watching and glad it was helpful!

@TheAussieRepairGuy Год назад

8:29 - that little tip saved me money....

@rangerrick8220 Год назад

Very good explanation - thanks! One question - what are the best settings and filter for eliminating jitteriness from med speed sideways panning motions on a normal sunny day at noon?

@disco.jellyfish 29 дней назад

For choosing an ND, I can actually recommend to point your camera roughtly in the direction showing the situation you want to be shooting in, set ISO to auto, choose the shutter speed you want and then try out different ND filters. Choose one that gives you exposure that looks right just from the image, an look for the ISO to not be at the total minimum but also not at the total maximum. If the minimum is 100, you want to choose a filter that allows you to be close to that but not straight on. You will want some buffer in case the area suddenly gets brighter mid flight. At least, that is for drones, which have fixed aperture. If you have variable aperture with a minimum of lets say f1.4, set the aperture to f4, ISO to the native ISO (lets assume its 800) and then attatch an ND-filter that gives you proper exposure. If the lighting conditions change, you optimally want to change the ND filter - that shouldnt be possible mid flight, so you will have to change the aperture instead. There is a clear right and wrong in this. The right ND filter is the one that gives you proper exposure.

@MrMiXxa 3 года назад

Great job...👍

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Thank you so much 😀 Thanks for wathcing and commenting!

@jaysun070476 3 года назад

I bought the dji filter the nd16 seems dark compared to other nd 16 filters i have. Had to up the iso in sunlight to get the right exposure.

@TNBstudio 3 года назад

“If you don’t like, share with the one you don’t like.” Wowww! i like this sentence.😎😎😎

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Haha just having fun with the outro!

@tman6495 3 года назад

Hey, that was the "money" shot of downtown...😎👍

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Thanks! Hope you enjoyed the video!

@ivedigga 2 года назад

Thanks Bro

@keith-knittel 2 года назад

No problem

@MikZaimi-bx4hf 2 месяца назад

Good job sir

@keith-knittel 2 месяца назад

Thank you!

@MoXXXL 3 года назад

Вполне понятно! Спасибо!

@garyives1218 2 дня назад

"we don't have time for that", "Hello Cleveland, Helloooo Cleveland!"- Derek Smalls

@davidshuttmedia373 3 года назад

Nice subbed! Just a side note, if you double the frame rate say to 60 and then use the 120 shutter angle that will give the 180 degree shutter if you slow it down, but if you don't slow it down then it will be a bit more staccato

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Hey there David, thanks for the sub! I was under the impression that the shutter angle was determined at the time of recording. So filming at 24 fps / 48 shutter speed would be a shutter angle of 180, but also 60 fps / 120 shutter speed would also be a shutter angle of 180, regardless if you slowed it down or not. You can slow it down, but the motion blur will remain the same (more drawn out if you slow the footage down, but it would be the blur would be the same). I think the stuttering may occur if you're putting the native 60 fps footage into a 24fps timeline. Interpreting that 60fps footage to the 24fps timeline would eliminate those stutters, but you'd have to slow down the footage. I could be wrong here, but let me know what you think. Very good question and thanks for bringing it up!

@davidshuttmedia373 3 года назад

@@keith-knittel Oh no, I read what I said and worded it terribly haha, it's because most people edit in a 30p timeline even with 60p footage, so you're right if they slow it down it'll be fine, but if they edit in a 30p timeline with the 60p footage and don't slow down the footage to keep all the frames then 1/2 frames will be missing which will make the shutter angle for those shots at a 90degree angle instead of a 180 degree angle.

@hildaelson4203 3 года назад

Me with a newly bought Mavic Air 2: keep watching those amazing footages! I can totally do this! Me after unboxing: how do you assemble this thing? Let alone how filters and frame rates and exposure work hahaha. But thank you so much for this video! I will need to come back to this after I’ve learned how to fly it.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Haha totally understand what you mean. There is a learning curve, but if gets easier the more you do it. Most all cameras (and DJI) drones are pretty similar, so if you know how to use one - you'll be able to pick another one up pretty quickly. Just the initial learning curve is tough - and I still learn new things all the time! Congrats on your new drone and thanks for watching

@novikovgarage_SPB 3 года назад

:))) ha-ha-ha

@bulversteher 3 года назад

A pol filter is the same at 12 o'clock an 6 o'clock (or 3/9, 1/7, etc).

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

I agree! This video is meant to be an introduction to the different kinds of filters, so I thought showing a few examples would help drive the point of PL filters a little more. Just be aware that not all polarized filters are created equal, and some filters may have a cross-polarization effect if you move the polarizing filters too far. This is less of an issue on filters with markings or hard stops but still something to be aware of. Sorry for the late response - thanks for watching and pointing that out

@elmono3939 3 года назад

Well explained. Kinda wonder, why DJI decided to put in a f2.8, fixed aperture lens on this drone.They probably saved 2 dollars, but made us to deal with ND filters, lots of guessing, and high probability of ending up with overexposed footage. I would rather pay $100.00 more to have few more f-stops. Don't think that was a good design decision.

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

Hey there El Mono, some of the DJI drones (like the Mavic 2 Pro) has a variable aperture, but still needs ND filters to properly expose your footage. A non-fixed aperture definitely helps in those times where you need to swap ND filters to a stronger filter, adjusting the aperture can definitely save you there but ND filters are a pretty common tool to have for shooting natural-looking motion blur with your footage during the day. Totally see where you're coming from though. When flying the Mavic Air or mini series, I definitely find myself wishing there was a variable aperture.

@thepuppetz 3 года назад

Hi Keith. Basically I’d say the best practise for Polar Pro filter is to set the line to 12 o’clock to get the maximum polarise effect. Correct?

@BodrumDrone 3 года назад

thanks for usefull information gretings from bodrum turkey

@keith-knittel 3 года назад

You’re welcome, hope you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching and commenting

@CurtisDensmore1 Год назад

A polarized filter at 12 o'clock vs 6 o'clock is the same thing. Light bouncing off surfaces is polarized parallel to that surface. Filters remove light polarized in a certain plane.